And that's how Lil John permanently ended his judging career

I like how Skim confidently walks out and looks everyone in MOO in the eye. True crew leader mentality right there

From an old bboy to the Morning of Owl .... you guys take break dancing to a different level ... most impressive to me is that you always have a story in all your moves, work great as a team, your moves rhyme with the music .. and are just simply great artists. PS. i am 60 yrs old now and danced till i was 42 😊

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This battle was held one year ago - and now, MoO has been improved soooooooo much. It's amazing.

My two favorites. Jinjo and morning of owl

Judge Lil John.. the worst judge ever... ._.

There no way y’all not gonna talk about FE skills he on 🔥

Morning of Owls routine was amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!

lil john, 1 is not the highest

I love Jinjo crew, but how did they beat Morning of Owl.. I mean No way... How do judges not also add overall Vibe and crowd control.. Morning of Owl clearly won & I love Jinjo so I'm not being bias...

how the FUCK did they tie in dynamics? just how.

WOW WOW WOW , man the best battle of all this event, really i saw the others crews battle, but this is just awesome

DJ WON THE BATTLE! great stuff from both crews and great battle thanks got the video!

Lil john must hate moo lmao

Nice battle and excellent system!!!

i like this idea of the O.U.R scoring system, but what about the routines and commandos? do they affect the scores in any way?

Wow high quality Battle

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Jinjo's been improving too. They're letting their junior members get some battle practice in while the members you see here (wing & skim as well) have been coming up with new stuff, but they arent showing it off yet. a rematch would be so awesome though. Jinjo's hat routine and jacket routine vs MoO's 2 best routines would be interesting

Seriously? Issue, Cho, Code, and Pocket all stay on the beat. Anyone's who's played an instrument can see how well MoO can dance to any song. For Pocket especially, it's extremely difficult to move that fast while still finding beats to hit with a one-handed elbowflare AND finish it off with a clean freeze.

Whos here in 2019?

2020 feb.. im here stil watchin

My two favorite crews!! I can't believe I haven't seen this until now! This battle was too short....I hope they verse each other again soon, things have changed a lot since then....

i am look @ both these crews and i don't know what to say... amazing...

im really curious on how routines/commandos are scored? will it go under the "battle" scoring section?

Wow probably the best battles

what happen with lil john ? is he blind ? or he has no eyes ?

what signs you mean? maybe you can refer to the beginning of this video. there were stated

wow~ Morning of Owl is so fresh and original.

MOO brought out some new moves into this battle. I don't know if you guys have noticed but they're definitely putting new content into their routines. Jinjo was extremely clean, but they lacked creativity and that's where MOO dominates. The last routine MOO did brought the judges scores to a tie. Their last minute routine was creative enough to bring them up to par with Jinjo. Close battle, but I think I'll side with MOO on this one. #Pocket

Good Battle !

Love F.E. Style. Great battle.

Nice Battle !!!

yeah u r right i realized that after writing my comment lol i really thought it was musicality my bad. So they are counting musicality into the foundation grade right ?

that last set of MoO is on point. 100%musicality.

Issue Style!! DOPE ! DOPE ! DOPE !

whats the music name on 5:26 ??????? can any1 reply

You do realize the R16 website said Foundation is musicality? They're not entirely different at all. Foundation is moving to the beat aka music. It also includes footwork but entirely on hitting beats

Wat a great battle to see again

Link de beats?

DANG!!!! That was one CRAZY BATTLE!!!

all 1's on foundation for Morning Of Owl... sadness... i see so many foundation...

Oh by the way, sorry for spamming, the real reason is, can I have all the song names and the artists in this round?

what a battle , what a routine from MO as a last set !

the last song is Soul Dynamite - The Sound Stylistics

3:42 song ? I have time looking for it

What do you think on having on scoring at all? I thought that was a good idea cuz it would still keep the categories but it would take away in giving an official score. The problem with scoring imo is that one can always top the other and it cud become the same score, so why not change it so a judge every round can say, this guy was cleaner, this guy was more original, etc.

Love the first two rounds of Jinjo, so smooth... bboyyagina> the first song is Organ Donor from DJ Shadow (not amplifire, that's a remix)

1st = foundation 2nd = originality 3rd = dynamics 4th = execution 5th = battle

omgOMG!!!!! The set from 7:45 was amazing. That suicide was insanely brave and bold!!! WOW!!! What a battle!

4:50 - 5:20 That was creative! Anyone knows song name 5: 25 - 6: 20?

What the fck. Morning of owl receive 1 for foundation each round ?!? The hell lil john ????

Guys who are saying Our system is getting disgraced. NO, just the opposite. You see how we all are able to question and hold the exact judge responsible for his decision, good or bad? And see exactly how they judged each round? And talk about it?! Brilliant! I love it! Couldn't be done with just arm pointing and then saying they know best because of experience. We can actually question things now and see who really are the best judges for jams. And I think that's awesome.

he didnt do any foundation,please point out what part of any set was foundation

Who the little guy from "morning of owl" i like that spins... Who his name?

what are the 5 factors in judging? the 1st symbol means musicality i guess, but rest?

Everyone has their own style or way to express themselves on the floor, so a different foundation

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I don't think that Foundation is accurately interpreted here. LOL I take it back apparently six step and some cc variations is equivalent to a 5. Look at Vero's set. lol

What's the name of the opening music? it's so nice..

What is the name of the song at 3:44?

Please ask lil john what he was looking for in Foundation. I don't understand why so many rounds from both sides got 1s

In the visual dictionary of things, this defines HYPE

Musicality does fall in the Foundation category, which is weird how all the scores were so low. Maybe Lil John wasn't fully informed that the foundation category includes musicality, patterns, and finesse.

That was a sick battle.

What do those signs mean?

I'd really like a interview of Lil John explaining what happened in this battle, cause most bboys had toprock, they didn't just enter into flares and that is foundation.

very good

Name of first song please?

where is the foundation ???? whereee.is the flave whereeee lil jonh ie real junge.

Name of first song please 😅

Yeah, basic power, freezes and tricks I'd include as foundation as well. But (imo), to show good foundation you'd have to exhibit most of those and glue them together with footwork, since footwork is core to foundation. For example I wouldn't call just windmills -> swipes -> windmills good foundation, even though windmills and swipes are basic power. So if you have little or no footwork, then personally I'd score you low for foundation. Which one was Mold?

If you compare this r16 to the 2013 r16 moO have improved so much

Sound ?

honestly, maybe issue didnt hit ALL the beats, but he was definitely listening to the music. idk why lil john gave him a 1 (foundation) on both his sets -___- actually why did lil john vote morning of owl so low on foundation. morning of owl took this in my opinion.

whos is the guy who wore all black for jinjo crew? and since when did pocket start wearing shoes haha

What's Jinjo's line up?

Ssooooo hype battle !!! Wish i was there !!! Pocket got goood :O

did bboy pocket pull out the same move twice?

All the judges are so serious about their judging and Blue is having a party of a time! LOL :D

1-1-1-1-1 all 1 point. Lmao

which 2 is lil John?

the website basically says foundation is your swag and your musicality

Gotta love watching Pocket spin.

wait issue and hong 10 are still allowed to compete?!? i thought they were both serving military time right now

what is song?

WHAT'S THE 3RD SONG? 3:44

I want our system final jinjo vs gambler pls.

isn't foundation good tops, footwork and clean execution? cuz i didn't see that as much on MoO.

totally agree with u!!

I don't know if you're asking if Hong 10 is a part of Jinjo or if he was a part of this battle. Hong 10 is a member of Jinjo, and he isn't in this battle, I believe he's serving in the military right now.

please explain how he doesn't have any foundation.

i agree wit u..and O.U.R system must have a test for judge of foundation

Oh wow that was him, my apologies! He looks different and he normally plays a huge part in Jinjo battles.

The RESPONSE, is what the Battle category is about! This system is designed to preserve all the essences of what a Bboy Battle is supposed to be, especially the RESPONSE.

well from ourbboys.(add com here)/our-system which is the actual website, footwork isn't necessary for foundation which i think makes perfect sense as it embraces individual bboy style

Kinda a random question but is bboy skim in this video?

HOLY COW. MOO. FTW!!!!

why Bboy wing was not there?