I did this OBD reading experiment for educational purposes only. I do not take any responsibility in case of damage to the ECU !!! I recommend using Original Programmers !
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@gameiro592 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. You have the knowledge and like to help everybody. As I've already said in another video, you should consider a Patreon or any other way so we can help you buy different tools, to try and compare and give us your opinion. Like that, you don't need to spend a lot of money buying scrap clones, but would help us say if it is worth spending the money on it, rework, or better sent it to garbage. I've already read that opinion from another subscriber.
@YOYODiagnostic2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@HelgiThorisson2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making these videos they are very informative.
@YOYODiagnostic2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. 👍
@Morteexx2 жыл бұрын
I have Kess and ktag clone, also MPPS V18 clone, and used it for 2years. And tested them good, here are my experience :) Bricked ecu's on purpose, and tryed recovery on 15 ECU's. All 15 ECU got recovery, one of the cars ( Opel ) i needed to disconnect battery and connect to get contact again and get recovery. All ECU's was EDC15 / 16. ( Not tryed bricked EDC17 yet, will try as fast someone have a car thats going to scrap ) Kess v2 tricore work also good with EDC17C14 :) Good tool for the money, but cheap components and need to remember that one day it mby not gonna work more if your not rework it. Thanks for great video!, love to see videos like this :)
@YOYODiagnostic2 жыл бұрын
Hello. If you rework them you do a decent job with them. For Hobby they are ok but for Profi it is not worth the risk with these programmers. Even with Flex I managed to burn a processor from a BMW ECU when I made an Ecu Clone to an EDC17. The new generation EDC17 on the BMW and VAG range have problems when you write Eeprom not when you write Flash. The funniest thing was when I wrote Flash on a 2014 Audi A6 and after a while that car came to the Audi service representative and there the Audi people asked the owner the date he wants to update the car's software. During the ECU Update it no longer worked. This is not the first case I have heard of, so if you change something in Flash and then you want to Update via OBD you will burn ECU. you can write Flash 50 times on OBD but if you update to all ECu then you will be unlucky.
@TheMateusz5352 жыл бұрын
@@YOYODiagnostic So if you change something in flash like dpf off, stage1 and then you want to update ECU to newest software version by OBD, it will be burned during the update?
@YOYODiagnostic2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMateusz535 Hello. more that this will surely happen because these new ecu's were made not to be modified.
@zeedim98822 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the test, very usefull comparison.
@YOYODiagnostic2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching . 👍
@al-698810 ай бұрын
Thanks Great demonstration 🎉🎉
@YOYODiagnostic10 ай бұрын
👍
@matiassanhueza8979 Жыл бұрын
Hola amigo excelente video, en mi país no tengo acceso a muchos programadores, tú recomiendas Kess y ktag clone? Agradezco tu respuesta muy buenos videos te ganaste un suscriptor nuevo desde chile!
@drico193 ай бұрын
do you know if this kessv2 on the ecu16c8 is able to read and write only form connecting it on the obd2 port?, because i dont want to take out the ecu of my car. Thx
@YOYODiagnostic3 ай бұрын
it depends on which car it is installed. if you read it on a Fiat or Iveco, it will work on OBD. If you want to read it from a Zafira it won't work, you have to read Bench.
@nunom8matos Жыл бұрын
Great work , you are giving amazing information.can you tell me whatbis the problem with the chinese clone of the kess ? I have one and im geting 'fail to initialize' error... thanks for great vídeos.
@andriusradvilas69057 ай бұрын
Hello whay Kess ecu EDC16C34 only want read when is in the car? But when is out not reading and not identifying. Power Supply good, reading anothers ECUs. Thanks in advance
@cristian74773 ай бұрын
I just want to backup and put Stage 1 on my Golf 7 TDI with EDC17C64 via OBD, which ones can I use to buy it? 🤔
@YOYODiagnostic3 ай бұрын
No matter what clone you use you risk blocking the ecu. This ECU is tuning protected. I recommend reading it in Bench. If you want to buy a clone, go for the kt200v2
@Unbekannt-ov5gb2 жыл бұрын
Danke sehr hilfreich 👍🏽
@YOYODiagnostic2 жыл бұрын
Vielen Dank. 👍
@Adrian-ch9hp6 ай бұрын
mpps after downloading the file, do we wait 3 minutes with the ignition on or off?
@pandepansa16653 күн бұрын
Hello, yoyo awesome content as always. I wanted to ask you have you ever tried an bmw 5 525d e61 edc16c31 with galleto, it only gives the 3.0d as an option with that ecu is read write possible on the 525d Thank you
@YOYODiagnostic2 күн бұрын
@@pandepansa1665 Hi. Yes you can read it. Ist no problem
@pandepansa1665Күн бұрын
@@YOYODiagnostic thank you yoyo, just read and writed an egr off map on my friends 525 e60 worked like a charm. Very grateful for the feedback :))
@YOYODiagnostic12 сағат бұрын
@@pandepansa1665 👍
@albertohurtadoromero3061 Жыл бұрын
Good morning from Andalusia Spain. the videos he makes are great. My question is about kess v2, I have an original that has 10 days left to be blocked due to updating to kess 3, do you know how I can avoid blocking? any crack or hack to do this? Will it work with version clone ksuite? This original machine is slave. on the other hand I have seen that you improve the components for reading in clone kess. Is this so noticeable? My clone version is red plate version 2.47 5.017ktag 7.020. Is it possible to put more protocols than I have? What improves the version 2.47 of the 2.9 in Kess? Official service always scares saying that it blocks control units but I have read and written in fiat edc 15 c34 and it has been correct. By the way, in relation to the video, I have requested a cable for Volvo, original alientech for the edc 16 c34 of a 1.6 c30 volvo diesel, allientech recommends this cable to avoid failures in volvo, as I have access to x-rays I will x-ray the cable and I will tell you what is inside the bridge or resistance between pins. Please send mail for this. Greetings mate.
@oficinafastudo.com.br9916 Жыл бұрын
🇧🇷 Olá amigo eu gostei do vídeo e gostaria de saber mais sobre esse equipamento mpps v21 ou mpps v18 você indicaria eu estou com dúvidas se você poder me ajudar eu agradeço,
@RinorBislimi2 жыл бұрын
Have u tried to flash, probably all of them will brick eeprom! After 2008 c34 is not safe to do in OBD with Genuine tools also. But why not asking! Have a nice day.
@YOYODiagnostic2 жыл бұрын
Hello. Yes a map change was made and I wrote with Kess. It's not the first time I've written this ecu on OBD at Peugeot - Citroen. I never had the problem. 👍
@flyblu80 Жыл бұрын
which clone card tool to be able to extract the key pin via obd2 for a fiat panda, the person who sold me the car did not give me the codes, and I understood that in theory it is possible to make a backup from the obd2 of the eeprom and extract those two codes (I think they are two). I'm looking but in the meantime I still haven't figured out which eeprom it is and then if there is a low cost / clone card that can do it. I only have to read and not write so regardless of the quality of the device "shouldn't" do damage. 😅. a certain iflash card can do it but it costs a lot of money.😢 I see Delphi ds150 clone but I think 🤔 can not do it.
@YOYODiagnostic Жыл бұрын
Tuning programmers cannot read eeprom via OBD, they read only Flash. You may be able to get the pin code if you go to someone who programs keys, as many such programmers are capable of extracting the pin code. Another option is to disassemble the ECU and read the eeprom separately with the EEProm programmer.
@user-im9zn2vu3y Жыл бұрын
Is there a difference between PCMTUNER programmer and imitation or emulator PCMTUNER
@forme9610 Жыл бұрын
💯💯💯😍😍💯💯
@albertohurtadoromero3061 Жыл бұрын
By the way, I might buy the original fc200, but to clone the edc15 edc 16 machine, which clone do you recommend? Do you know any good davinchi version? and a checksum corrector? to verify file to load is good? greetings and thank you very much
@YOYODiagnostic Жыл бұрын
FC200 doesn't work on edc15. Davinci it's a good software but original and price is around 1000 euro.
@bazaryhami7179 Жыл бұрын
i would like to know what did you do for the car? what was wrong with car ? why u use that software? , thank you
@YOYODiagnostic Жыл бұрын
I'm too old to remember what I did with that machine, but one thing is clear that I showed that it can be read with these cheap clones, for those who don't have money. 😉 If I have programs installed on a laptop, it doesn't mean that I have to use it on that car, it's just that it's installed..
@schnibbelwind91Ай бұрын
Hallo, was wäre der beste/bessere Programmer für VAGs zwischen 2000-2010? Aktuell will ich eine EDC16U1 wegen dem Warmstartproblem umprogrammieren. :) (A3 1.9TDi)
@YOYODiagnosticАй бұрын
@@schnibbelwind91 FC 200
@schnibbelwind91Ай бұрын
@@YOYODiagnostic Danke ❤️ Ohha, kannst du mir, statt dem FC200, ein China Clone empfehlen? Rework ist für mich kein Problem 😄
@reza5242 жыл бұрын
Hello. I have a question. I have a Peugeot 207 1.4 8v Flex, with ECU Bosch 7.4.9. I have it's map file and now after remapping it's file with a professional guy, want to know that MPPS can write this Remap file on my ecu with OBD2? Thanks
@YOYODiagnostic2 жыл бұрын
Hello. I haven't tried this engine. I'm sorry I don't want to misinform you.
@ByBpt2 жыл бұрын
Hi once again! Thank you for another vídeo about this. What you think about DaVinci solutions? Regards
@YOYODiagnostic2 жыл бұрын
Hello. Davinci software is a software in development and I think it deserves attention. The original software at this time is 250 euros. This price is very good compared to other sports that cost thousands of euros.
@ByBpt2 жыл бұрын
@@YOYODiagnostic hi. Yes i "follow" that from almost the beggining, but never gived a try. But i get curiosity about that software and i try to get some opinion from "someone knowed". Thank you! Best regards
@YOYODiagnostic2 жыл бұрын
@@ByBpt Hi. Covers the entire range from BMW, VAG and newer Peugeot. from EDC15 to EDC17. In the video I used a Citroen 2018 and as I said it covers all the ECU for the brands mentioned above. It does not compare to more expensive programs where they have approved all brands but the price is not the same. it depends on which brands interest you the most.
@mrt-ee1zn Жыл бұрын
@@YOYODiagnostic hi, wish you be right, but not now, it was already 600 eur 2 years ago, maybe now more. Or you have discount? Thanks
@user-sg9is7mn1i2 жыл бұрын
But which one is the best? can i read flash ecu ems 3132 from obd
@YOYODiagnostic2 жыл бұрын
Hello. This ECU can be read with Ktag. I didn't try with obd because I don't work much on Renault but I will try at the first opportunity.
@user-sg9is7mn1i2 жыл бұрын
@@YOYODiagnostic I found a special scheme for ecu Tools try it with the RenoLink cable and is read with it obd on bench
@YOYODiagnostic2 жыл бұрын
@@user-sg9is7mn1i yes and Renolink can read. from what i saw it has the option by obd but i haven't tried it yet.
@danielreis8623 Жыл бұрын
@@user-sg9is7mn1i não
@alexnievesrodriguez1389 Жыл бұрын
Do you think its possible to write in this ecu and car without problems using kess v2?
@YOYODiagnostic Жыл бұрын
Hello, when you use clones you will always have a risk, even the original ones will have problems. It would be good if your programmer is one with Rework done!
@Pitman556 Жыл бұрын
Why do some sellers say mpps clone only good for 10uses? But v21 or v22 good for unlimited?
@YOYODiagnostic Жыл бұрын
Version 21 had problems reading and writing after 10 uses. It was something like the old version kess that ran out of Tokens after a few uses, but it seems that this one. The problem was solved by using another Dump. I don't recommend buying these clones anyway. There are others that are much more effective.
@wilska8835 Жыл бұрын
@@YOYODiagnostic what program would would recommed buying for bmw e46 edc16 programming?
@YOYODiagnostic Жыл бұрын
@@wilska8835 Original - FLEX or Alientech Clone - Galletto or KT200
@wilska8835 Жыл бұрын
@@YOYODiagnostic ok thanks alot mate👍
@wilska8835 Жыл бұрын
@@YOYODiagnostic Do you have a link to a good galletto clone?
@ognjengajic77082 ай бұрын
Is it kess eu clone?I have eu clone kess v2 can i read it with him?
@YOYODiagnostic2 ай бұрын
Yes it's an EU clone but with full rework
@ognjengajic77082 ай бұрын
@@YOYODiagnosticis it red pcb?My kess is red pcb can i read with red?Thanks
@ognjengajic77082 ай бұрын
@@YOYODiagnosticand did you try to write?
@YOYODiagnostic2 ай бұрын
Your question makes me laugh. Do you think I only read and wrote these ECU's once? from 2010 to the present than this is what I do. If something doesn't work, I won't show you, I just often shorten the video because it's too long and many people get bored. But you can be sure that it works.
@ognjengajic77082 ай бұрын
Thank you can you give me your email if i can asking you for ecu-s because i have 14 years and i want to start working on my family cars?
@la-ia1404 Жыл бұрын
Does this pull a .bin from the ecu? Why I am asking is because I am attempting retrieve the .bin from the ecu and then search for the missing parameters that are not defined.
@YOYODiagnostic Жыл бұрын
To be able to extract the pin, you need to read the Eeprom. These cannot be read by obd.
@bravorunei6830 Жыл бұрын
hi which MPPS do you use V16 ,V18 , 21 ???..Thanks