Obito vs Kabuto | Whose Army Would have Won?

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0:00 - Intro
1:55 - Obito's War Assets
3:50 - Kabuto's War Assets
6:55 - How would it Go?
#anime #naruto
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@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
Getting a lot of people commenting without watching lmao, Madara does not solo if that's your initial thoughts please watch the video
@jakepearson1254
@jakepearson1254 Жыл бұрын
Oof look at my comment. I was going to finish but now I genuinely don’t know. Probably won’t. Madara. Has. A. Heart. Seal. On. Óbito. He literally has to snap his fingers.
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
@@jakepearson1254 You gotta watch the vid fam, I'l say this Madara is definitely not supporting Kabuto
@jakepearson1254
@jakepearson1254 Жыл бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG now you got me. Because I don’t remember if madara had free will before or after Kabuto died…but either way, “Kabutos” army would win. Gimme a few. I’ll come eat my words if I’m wrong I promise.
@jakepearson1254
@jakepearson1254 Жыл бұрын
NGL Im halfway in and the adhd is begging me to jump. I WONT YALL WORKED HARD ON THIS. Just thought I’d update ❤
@jakepearson1254
@jakepearson1254 Жыл бұрын
29 min in. Wont spoil it for anyone else. But I made a promise. Good work y’all I don’t remember why I unsubbed from you tbh but you’ve earned it back ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@warandconquest6522
@warandconquest6522 Жыл бұрын
Kabuto may be able to put Madara under direct control as soon as he summons him. Kabuto’s mistake in cannon was letting him keep his personality so that changes the whole end of the battle
@vvebsta6237
@vvebsta6237 Жыл бұрын
Finally! It's a pleasure to see some people trying to understand things instead of blindly fapping on Madara/Hashirama. Ofc they can be controlled if you put their mind in check before letting them weaving hand signs
@Storytime..
@Storytime.. Жыл бұрын
It wouldn’t work when orochiamru summoned hashirama orochimaru coudlnt and madara is a rival for hashirama so madara should be able to replicate that same feat easily
@Storytime..
@Storytime.. Жыл бұрын
Feet*
@BlaxkSun
@BlaxkSun Жыл бұрын
@@Storytime.. Orochimaru Edo tensai is way different the Kabuto. Also Madara is literally modded
@meetthemoo225
@meetthemoo225 Жыл бұрын
@@BlaxkSun no orochimarus edo tensei is the same it’s confirmed . He literally steals kabutos new info and uses it to make his hokage edos in the war
@historyking9984
@historyking9984 Жыл бұрын
Kabuto’s got far too many top tier fighters. And unlike the shinobi alliance the Edo don’t get tired and they can’t be sealed by the Zetsu I think if Obito uses the tailed beast well he can cause some problems
@ricardokojin7
@ricardokojin7 Жыл бұрын
I mean...if we are being honest, all he needs is Deidara..he can go 'boom" non-stop and evaporate all zetsus and anyone around....his own army won't suffer since they cannot die.
@historyking9984
@historyking9984 Жыл бұрын
@@ricardokojin7 Possibly but his C0 explosion would cause him to take a ton of time to revive. Also your forgetting the Zetsu can travel in the earth due to their hashirama bodies to avoid that
@vvebsta6237
@vvebsta6237 Жыл бұрын
@@historyking9984 also you forgetting Deidara, Nagato, Muu, Rasa and others can fly while Manda 2 and less valuable edo shinobies will be killing those Zetsus. Zetsu army is non factor here
@elijahealks6098
@elijahealks6098 Жыл бұрын
​@@vvebsta6237 Manda 2 gonna have a feast
@historyking9984
@historyking9984 Жыл бұрын
@@vvebsta6237 not really. The Zetsu can travel through the ground and find Kabuto extremely fast since he’s staying in one place. Then Obito can attack him directly if he wanted to
@thewildananas
@thewildananas Жыл бұрын
A good movie. While fighting the Edo tensei army, Obito is unlikely to be able to absorb them into the kamui dimension. A stronger Edo could break free there and prevent him from teleporting further as Kakashi did.
@IWriteTooMuchForBleachIGuess
@IWriteTooMuchForBleachIGuess Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you unhacked my guy.
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
yessir thank you
@fellowkrieger457
@fellowkrieger457 Жыл бұрын
One funny thing Obito has up his sleeves too : The white zetsu, may be a big army of mobs. But one catch is, white Zetsu is actually very good at spying and gathering Intel's really fast by traveling through the ground with his big numbers of clones. He can cover a wide area. So white Zetsu can possibly, after a while, pinpoint the location of Kabuto. And from that point in time, Obito would just have to teleport the Gedo statue in the area, toss out a few tale beasts and nuke the general direction of Kabuto. The Edo Tensei would still go on. But without the support of Sage Kabuto. So, no additional Edo Tensei summoning from that moment, and the biggest reliable asset of the army would be out (Edo Madara is not really a Kabuto asset). Kabuto does have a Rashomon gate summoning to survive let's say 1 Biju bomb. But he is not gonna survive a barrage of Biju bombs busting out the cave. It sucks cause Kabuto's army is way cooler than Obito's.
@hobbyhorse5848
@hobbyhorse5848 Жыл бұрын
Kabuto has his location protected by a barrier jutsu that only Nagato was able to pinpoint. He’s definitely not using them to grab Kabuto’s coordinates or otherwise he would’ve just made them do it instead of attaching some white Zetsu spores as a precaution. And how or when those spores would even activate is unknown because they only came out when Jugo used his chakra to stimulate them so…that’s a weird X factor honestly.
@DHworldwide185
@DHworldwide185 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. If Obito can find out his location with white zetsu its a done deal.
@toprock1301
@toprock1301 6 ай бұрын
Kabuto wouldn't be affected by the biju bombs. He would liquefy himself to negate the damage.
@PuffPuffPass123
@PuffPuffPass123 5 ай бұрын
​@hobbyhorse5848 it's actually really smart cause the only reason that jugo activated the spores is due to his sage chakra, and kabutos new powers are mostly related to jugos chakra, so basically he new kabuto was a sage but didn't know he unlike the others, doesn't have a natural affinity for it
@baronroy2012
@baronroy2012 Жыл бұрын
In a situation like this, pulling anyone into the Kamui dimension is a terrible move. Remember what happened when Kakashi was in there? Any time Obito used Kamui to make himself intangible, he'd just beat up the part of Obito's body that spawns in Kamui. So taking any of the Edo's into Kamui is just giving them a free pass to fuck him up, and preventing him from using his invincibility hacks on the battlefield.
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
I’ve dropped this comment a couple of times but, that’s hyper specific as where Obito materializes in the dimension and where he drops people are the seperate spots. We can see this with how he fights fuu/torune and drops them in the Kamui dimension, and Sasuke/Karin who are in there have no idea any of that is going on. You could say Kakashi does what Obito does to Kaguya and somewhat tracks the chakra signature but, yeah they’re not the same spots
@baronroy2012
@baronroy2012 Жыл бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG it's specific, but not improbable. All it requires is for Obito to suck one of them up. He's clearly got no awareness of what happens inside that dimension unless he's there too (otherwise he'd make those pieces spawn far away from where Kakashi is to prevent him from getting any cheap shots in). Heck we see this exact scenario play out: They send one of Naruto's shadow clones into the dimension and he just waits until Obito appears to ambush him. That's how they unmasked him. No reason this can't happen with an Edo
@167kinggam
@167kinggam Жыл бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG that's massive overthinking and overanalysis, kamui's weakness was pretty straightforward.
@raikaria3090
@raikaria3090 Жыл бұрын
A big one is if Obito knows about Kinkaku/Ginkaku's weapons. Because that could just end him via hax.
@Babajoshi1687
@Babajoshi1687 Жыл бұрын
Good point.
@gjahmato8704
@gjahmato8704 Жыл бұрын
He most definetly knows since Madara would have inform him in the passed, even then the leaf and the cloud know about those weapons and he has zetsu to keep him inform if he for some reason didn't
@bigrob8517
@bigrob8517 Жыл бұрын
​@@gjahmato8704 madara sure gave obito a lot of information on his deathbed.
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
They require a lot of prep work to use, the only one that’s actually threatening to Obito in my eyes is the amber purification jar, which is the strongest by far due to how much easier it is to accomplish said objective
@gjahmato8704
@gjahmato8704 Жыл бұрын
@@bigrob8517 Well yeah, Madara taught obito about the forbidden Uchiha techniques, Rikudou jutsus, and shadow and light style. And he had black zetsu to explain things further; when you consider that obito was one of the most knowledgeable people about the sage of six paths and the juubi him knowing about those weapons would be expected, especially since the Leaf and the cloud knew about it due to kinkaku and kenkaku causing trouble with them
@JohnJohnson-do3db
@JohnJohnson-do3db Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you got your channel back!
@lowkeycolors
@lowkeycolors Жыл бұрын
Glad to see this Channel back
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
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@2_loko
@2_loko Жыл бұрын
Homie got the channel back like 6 hours ago and is already droppin some heat🔥😂
@Sword_Man_YT
@Sword_Man_YT Жыл бұрын
So glad to see your channel has returned!
@catchdog
@catchdog Жыл бұрын
glad you' are back!!!!!
@supremelore_1533
@supremelore_1533 Жыл бұрын
When Madara was talking to Kabuto he asked if he knew their plan and Kabuto didn't seem surprised that Madara was aware... If Kabuto thinks that Madara was part of the plan, then he'd probably not risk using him AGAINST Obito unless he used some personality suppressing thing like Orochimaru did with the 1st and 2nd against Hiruzen.... which would make Madara garbage... so Kabuto probably won't use Madara at all... Its also hilarious how Kabuto unknowingly gave Obito the kinkaku option too, something Obito COULD HAVE NEVER IMAGINED was possible.
@toddty11
@toddty11 Жыл бұрын
One thing people forget is that obito has wood style, I guess it’s easy to forget saying even he did 😅😅
@TheCEOofTheMoment
@TheCEOofTheMoment Жыл бұрын
How would each Hokage handle the threat of Akatsuki
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
This is actually an insanely interesting concept.
@TheCEOofTheMoment
@TheCEOofTheMoment Жыл бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG 🥰 Senpai
@JohnnySinsUnderstudy
@JohnnySinsUnderstudy Жыл бұрын
Hashirama: *solos*
@illmatic1026
@illmatic1026 Жыл бұрын
Oh I been waiting on this one
@SpliffingBrit
@SpliffingBrit Жыл бұрын
I dont think Madara would join obito, I think he would just murk everyone but the ten tails
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
He needs Obito to rinne rebirth him otherwise the Ten Tails is useless to him
@sergioarisio8921
@sergioarisio8921 Жыл бұрын
​@@ThunderGodTG If Madara makes Obito use rinne rebirth then he's helping Kabuto
@user-mm7pb5si6j
@user-mm7pb5si6j Жыл бұрын
Good video. I also think Obito can get rid of some of troublesome edo tenseis with his human path (he clearly do has access to it since he going to whoop soul from Yamato) and with those black rods that Madara used to restrain Hashirama + chakra chains, strong enough to tie up KCM Naruto
@phobikshiki
@phobikshiki Жыл бұрын
Good to have ya back💯
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
Thank you bro especially for the support on twitter
@dandelarosa64
@dandelarosa64 Жыл бұрын
Congrats on getting your channel back!
@morganheiney1737
@morganheiney1737 Жыл бұрын
Good to have you back man!
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@CelestQB
@CelestQB Жыл бұрын
Bros Back 🙏🏾 Great to have you back TG 🖤
@redman10
@redman10 Жыл бұрын
Glad u got ur channel back bro
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
Yessir
@joshbeamon
@joshbeamon Жыл бұрын
Haha glad I found this channel. You got some dope topics you discuss.
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!
@CH1C4N0444
@CH1C4N0444 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you got your channel back TG! I think White Mask Obito would lose this war, quite handily. Edo Tensei Army as a whole is just gonna be above the White Zetsu, quite easily. The Akatsuki were made with the idea of battling Jinchuriki who are stronger than the Tailed Beasts and in some cases, Akatsuki 1v1'd Jinchuriki and won. Meaning Akatsuki>Jinchuriki>Tailed Beasts. We also have Kage who are on par or stronger than some of the Tailed Beasts as well (3rd Raikage>8 Tails>7 Tails and below). Only thing Kabuto has to be worried about is Gedo Mazo and Edo Madara should be able to hold it off Also, Obito sucking up enemies just gives Kabuto's army access to his body hiding away in the Kamui Dimension.
@slyreezy5258
@slyreezy5258 Жыл бұрын
What happened to his channel?
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
Yeah I definitely agree the Gedo Statue is a way better asset in this situation, if Obito leads with the Bijuu it could be detrimental. For the Kamui part Obito can place them at different spots in the dimension an example being Fuu and Torune and how he chucked them in there while Sasuke and Karin were there and they never saw each other. It’s more so that Kakashi sent Naruto to exactly where Obito was which is consistent with the Kaguya fight as Obito notes he can somewhat trace the chakra signature through her rifts, so he should be able to Kamui who he chooses.
@hobbyhorse5848
@hobbyhorse5848 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Going over all the evidence on paper it really seems like Obito himself is honestly a much bigger threat on his own than his ENTIRE army he assembled, which is crazy. His 6 Paths Jinchuriki got all put on their asses by BM bee, In V2 they can’t even overtake KCM1, Naruto, Kakashi, Guy, and Bee even with the slight numbers advantage, and then KCM2 Naruto bullies hem all. They’d basically all kinda get effed in BM by Amaterasu spam combined with all the other crazy Edo jutsu. But then Obito is solo-stalling KCM2 Naruto, tanking his Rasengans to the face (to be fair his mask probably took most of the damage), pinning down Bee in Biju Mode with his Kamui weapons while also fighting Kakashi and Guy too. The man is insane. As for the Zetsu army, honestly Deidara + Kakuzu + Kimimaro + Rasa probably sweep the a good number of them with their large scale jutsu. And being real here…Kabuto getting wrecked by Madara after summoning him would be top ten Naruto funny moments.
@Est_1.997
@Est_1.997 6 ай бұрын
Ok bro your content and topics are fire I’m subbing this is like the 10th video I’ve randomly stumbled across where you have amazing topics
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG 6 ай бұрын
Hey! I appreciate that thanks!
@asvestor5932
@asvestor5932 Жыл бұрын
The only problem I have with this Hypothesis is the fact you never took into account the only reason the Zetsu army managed to slow down the alliance and take out people was because they were infiltrating their rank by taking the appearance/chakra signature of many alliance Ninjas and backstabbing them like he did with Neji. It’s a whole different story for Kabuto’s Edo Army cause the moment one show off his hands unless they have like a sealing jutsu of their own « news flash they don’t » the army will just start blasting left and right the second they see one another and if the one they blasted regenerate they know they gucci. The Zetsu army is a joke if the ennemies doesn’t effing care about friendly fire. There’s no Zetsu or amalgamation of Zetsus that can pause a real threat to most Edo Tenseis. Talking like Zetsu would slow them down enough for X to happen is laughable at best cause no they wouldn’t be slowing them down. xD
@robertlee9602
@robertlee9602 Жыл бұрын
Always a good listen guys thanks.
@StanTheBland
@StanTheBland Жыл бұрын
I knew you'd get it back! Congrats on getting your channel back, hope you've upgraded security too so that these guys can't get it back!
@StanTheBland
@StanTheBland Жыл бұрын
Oh you should make a community post I think
@dan5072
@dan5072 Жыл бұрын
This is something ive been wanting to see since they teamed up
@24Kam.
@24Kam. Жыл бұрын
LEGENDARYYYYYYY!
@ancientgearsynchro
@ancientgearsynchro Жыл бұрын
I think Obito has a permanent solution for any edo tensei in the human path of the renigan , as he could just yoink the soul out of any problem soldier which kabuto would have to personally re-summon.
@vvebsta6237
@vvebsta6237 Жыл бұрын
He hasn't shown this ability. So he can't use human path
@user-mm7pb5si6j
@user-mm7pb5si6j Жыл бұрын
​@@vvebsta6237 he want to use it with Yamato, but Kabuto stopped him from it, so he definitely has access to human path
@vvebsta6237
@vvebsta6237 Жыл бұрын
@@user-mm7pb5si6j general rule: if character didn't show his ability = he doesn't have it
@user-mm7pb5si6j
@user-mm7pb5si6j Жыл бұрын
@@vvebsta6237 yea, I know and it's definetly a stupid one
@trey6388
@trey6388 Жыл бұрын
@@vvebsta6237 yea but he stated that he could use all of the abilties of the rinnegan but chose not to not only because it consumed too much chakra but because all of his opponents knew how to counter rinnegan.(naruto,kakashi) we literally see him use the chakra rods and rinne rebirth.. which are both abilities granted by rinnegan so why wouldn’t he able to use the others
@TheEternalFlame57
@TheEternalFlame57 Жыл бұрын
MY BOY GOT HIS CHANNEL BACK!!
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
WE BACK
@emssasukeisunderrated7946
@emssasukeisunderrated7946 Жыл бұрын
Agree and I know y’all added the what if Madara decided to help Kabuto at the end there. Well, again looking at it realistically he’d either do one of two things since we know Kabuto can’t control Madara similarly to Orochimaru not being able to control Hashirama. 1. If the Juubi wasn’t revived in time he could theoretically help by waiting for the right time to have Obito revive himself. Remember, Obito CANNOT become the juubi jinchuriki until the seal on his heart is broken. So in reality, Madara would Uno reverse both Obito and Kabuto and become the juubi jinchuriki once he’s revived and his limbo 2. If the Juubi was revived but in its initial forms then nothing from the first point would change. Madara would still wait for the right time to revive himself with Obito as the sacrifice and Zetsu switching to Madara’s side. Then Kabuto in general wouldn’t matter
@SatorisYT
@SatorisYT Жыл бұрын
Glad You got Your channel back! Gotta say, I feel a tiny bit peeved that You made this video right after I made a similar one, but I know You probably don't know my channel even exists 😅. But anyways, good to see You back man!
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
That’s crazy😂😂 I’ll have to give it a watch
@SatorisYT
@SatorisYT Жыл бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG Thanks man 😊 Eager to see what You think about it 😃
@patricklynch4074
@patricklynch4074 Жыл бұрын
Something you guys forgot i think is that if obito starts putting people in kamui dimension, every time he phases after that the people in the dimension can just attack his body
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
So I address this in a couple other comments where he drops people and where he phases are two different spots, he literally is phasing/throws fuu and torune in there and Karin/Sasuke don’t see them or have any idea. The only example is Kakashi and you can just say he tracked obitos chakra signature.
@patricklynch4074
@patricklynch4074 Жыл бұрын
@ThunderGod thats fair tbh, though that still means he cant casually kamui in anyone with good sensory abilities or marking techniques Kiba's dynamic marking coming in clutch finally 😤
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
LMAO that's a fact
@natnael13
@natnael13 Жыл бұрын
Yo congrats on getting the channel back
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
Thank you fam!
@Paidwaycam_
@Paidwaycam_ Жыл бұрын
Damn I was just thinking about how it’s about time you hopped on stream again .
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
I’m about to stream tomorrow if possible, going ballistic on the content this month
@bijuutamer729
@bijuutamer729 Жыл бұрын
Don’t Deidara and Mu solo Obito’s forces. He can use the microscopic bombs to wipe out the Zetsus. The edo just come back if they’re caught. The particle style deals with the only real threat Obito has which is the Gedo statue. I’d give it to Kabuto
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
The microscopic bombs gotta be inhaled which is weird to argue since we don’t know if the zetsu actually breath or inhale air lmao
@brendonohagan1946
@brendonohagan1946 8 ай бұрын
​@@ThunderGodTGdoes he even bleed blood? Legit question
@jcw034
@jcw034 7 ай бұрын
Nagato can summon the Geto statue anyway. So it don't matter. He also has access to their chakra already because of it and that means he can become the 10 tails jinchurriki if he wanted to at any moment as long as he has Nagato
@justanothercommenterwithan9089
@justanothercommenterwithan9089 7 ай бұрын
@@jcw034 edo rinnegan can't summon the gedo statue and you need a real rinnegan to become a jinchuriki of the 10 tails
@midsectionmark8956
@midsectionmark8956 Жыл бұрын
Kabuto squad winning no doubt lol 😂. Just the pure force of who he revived is crazy. There’s no way I see Obito army winning.
@RKJ-c7k
@RKJ-c7k Жыл бұрын
I was definitely like this guy had to got hacked I kept searching you up and your channel never got back on the search list
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
THEY GOT ME
@Fortfails25
@Fortfails25 Жыл бұрын
Haven't started watching it yet but I hope this one is my favorite
@juliusnovachrono4370
@juliusnovachrono4370 Жыл бұрын
Its good to see your channel back dude.
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
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@Julio9j11j Жыл бұрын
Yerrrrrrrrr Unhacked tg pl:10.9k 🔥🔥 11 k soon Happy to see u back lol how u get hacked?
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@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
Bro they got my email
@bigrob8517
@bigrob8517 Жыл бұрын
Fun video I have a few thoughts. Madara undoing his contract was while kabuto was taken out, we don't have evidence that he can do that when kabuto is still alive/active. Also if kabuto doesn't have the ability to control madara then he wouldnt have been able to show him off infront of obito when they first met, I imagine he can choose how much control he has over madara much better then a freshly revived orochimaru who hasnt been able to use his hands until this point can control harashima. Why would kabuto have to send everyone out but obito can just wait? In this scenario there isnt a naruto running around that everyone is trying to grab/defend. Kabuto isnt going to just spread his army out to find obito for no reason, he could just surround himself with his best edos wait for obito just as easily as obito waits for him. No one on obito's side has sealing jutsu other then im assuming obito, how does he deal with the edos? Even if he absorbs them they dont necessarily die or lose control, we dont have any evidence that would happen. If he does absorb some of them why wouldn't they attack him from inside his dimension like kakashi did? If obito managed to get the 10 tails using the gold and silver brothers, which is very dangerous for him as they could just as easily catch him with the ninja tools as he inevitably leaves himself open when he tries to fight against multiple opponents at once. Say he does and summons the 10 tails how does he control it without madara? He already misses a tail beast bomb in the real timeline because he loses control and thats with madara's help. Does it just rampage around destroying everything at this stage? Then if it kills kabuto the edo army doesnt dissappear so then where does obito go from there, does he have to absorb the 10 tails himself? It all seems to be going too far in the same direction as the mainline story with too many assumptions in obito's favour. I don't know why everyone always assumes kabuto will just stay in his cave the entire time and not also engage on the battlefield in what if scenario's, being relative to obito himself in power. Why wouldnt he have all of the akatsuki by his side and take on obito? He has the advantage of information on his techniques while obito has no idea about kabutos sage mode abilities. Obito struggles against an exhausted naruto, guy and kakashi so im not sure how he deals with kabuto and his edos in a direct confrontation. The tail beasts are a little bit of a tricky area in this scenario, if one of them gets destroyed it ruins the entire plan, the akatsuki are tail beast level alone even before they were immortal so having the tail beasts engage with the edo army is dangerous for obitos end goal. Honestly I see this as a relatively easy win for kabuto unless obito gets 10 tails, but he doesn't start with it so I dont see why we give it to him during the scenario as it's a completely different situation with too many variables to give him the benefit of doubt. Thanks for the content 👍🏻
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the love I would address some of these I just don’t got the strength to address them in the comments, I will say I’m generally a big believe Obito and Madara are more ~ whereas Kabuto is more of a rival to Itachi/EMS Sasuke. The Madara stuff I’ve addressed in other comments so you can peep around for that, appreciate the love ✊🏻
@bigrob8517
@bigrob8517 Жыл бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG Fair enough, I see obito white mask being on madara tier with the jinchuriki and gedo but without the jinchuriki more on kabutos/orange mask obito level if not slightly more vulnerable without a usable izanagi. Have har a read through the top madara comments and seems pretty divided opinions. I dont have too strong an opinion either way, my argument would be I dont think kabuto in this situation needs him and if he does use him and he switches sides then kabuto loses but then probably so does obito not long after. Keep up the work bud 👍🏻
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the dialectic and for sure! I always like to hear people's takes since this is such a broad topic that there's always some shit we missed
@JohnS-dp1mm
@JohnS-dp1mm Жыл бұрын
That boy Cooked!
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 Жыл бұрын
I really thought bro was done for thank god you got your channel back lmao
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
Bro BMW on my ass next 😂😂
@sbthesage2100
@sbthesage2100 Жыл бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG that’s weird bc it shows up as BMW when you search but it’s your normal picture underneath the video
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 Жыл бұрын
Oh snap, Six reacted to your vid in case you didn't know hehe
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
I saw and donated lmao he asked me before he reacted to make sure it was cool
@owensilva9224
@owensilva9224 Жыл бұрын
Thunder god please make a tobirama vs akatsuki video
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
I’m 100% making one after my next upload
@Wandering_Trainer
@Wandering_Trainer Жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about who are kage candidates or have kage potencial from each village like on what kakashi said that shikaku nara could be Hokage. Me especially think Choza akimichi and Kitsuchi of the hidden rock are kage potencial they were extremely effective during the 4th shinobi war.
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
I really like this I'll write it down appreciate the idea.
@Black_Guy
@Black_Guy Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the abilitybof the zetsu to absorb chakra to increase their strength or take on the appearance of other would be a factor.
@talesthesalesman3106
@talesthesalesman3106 Жыл бұрын
Make a video on The 5 Kage vs The Akatsuki
@kaekae1782
@kaekae1782 Жыл бұрын
Akatsuki. Itachi, Obito, Pain
@AtenSol12
@AtenSol12 Жыл бұрын
17:18 Rescind Re-send But Dont stress the s sound midway through the word So instead of ReSend its more like Ree-ss-end , double s for ssssss sound like a snake as opposed to hard S sound
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
Thank your fixing my improper speech
@AtenSol12
@AtenSol12 Жыл бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG i totally didnt expect you to even see this, but sure thing! hopefully it didnt come off condescending!
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
Nah you're chillin bro appreciate it
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind the zetsu army was reduced down to 50k after 1 day WITH the aid of the edo's. But also, they were fighting the shinobi alliance of 80,000 shinobi instead of tens if not hundreds of edos max. So it's an unquantifiable nerf and a buff I guess, so it's the same in terms of speculation. But thoughts?
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
Yeah we briefly touched on it, it’s really hard to quantify but it’s almost irrelevant in the convo since even stronger edo’s like the Third took some amount of time to run through regular shinobi while on auto pilot
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 Жыл бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG nah you mentioned they were reduced to 50k but didn't include the other context I mentioned ^^
@ryan8894
@ryan8894 Жыл бұрын
Would Itachi's totska blade seal the tailed beasts? If so, then I think Obito is pretty screwed
@sosa8549
@sosa8549 Жыл бұрын
Why wouldn’t it their just chakra
@sergioarisio8921
@sergioarisio8921 Жыл бұрын
It would seal Obito too😂
@ryan8894
@ryan8894 Жыл бұрын
@@sergioarisio8921 obito was fighting kcm2 Naruto, he's not getting touched by the totska blade
@sergioarisio8921
@sergioarisio8921 Жыл бұрын
@@ryan8894 Why not? Itachi blized Nagato with the Totsuka blade, Nagato was relative ti Kcm1 Naruto, also Obito is not fighting Itachi one on one, Itachi has a lot of allies and even in a one on One Itachi can still create clones (and maybe they could use Totsuka Blade too, note sure about that)
@ryan8894
@ryan8894 Жыл бұрын
@Sergio Arisio Obito far surpasses KCM1 Naruto, he was fighting KCM2 Naruto, Bee, Kakashi, and Guy The only thing we've seen be able to touch Rinnegan Obito is Kakashi's Kamui
@avidorpheus7257
@avidorpheus7257 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't proven wether or not Madara could break out of edo tensai. All we do know is that once it was released he was able to resend the contract gaining hid freewill and so on.
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
Bro literally broke the coffin before the user allowed he is/him
@Garnichgutt
@Garnichgutt 11 ай бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG but not when he was first summoned. I agree that using Madara in the same way he used the rest of his Edos (some of them had their free will and I dont think Kabuto ever tried to restrict madara) would be stupid. But he should be able to keep him surpressed by not allowing his personality to shine through from the start. However that would nerf madaras effectivness extensivly. The Hokage couldnt be surpressed, by Oro in the war because Sasuke wanted answers. In order to tell tales the Edo tensei needs to be himself. The idea that Madaras "personality" is so edgy that he can break out of dumb zombiemode is a bit of a long reach. Madaras experience, knowledge, Jutsu and Chakrareserves are what makes it a difficult to control summon. Take Personality and Experience away and just like Hashirama in part one he will be an obedient puppet (without a brain to be fair but hey... cant have it all).
@supremelore_1533
@supremelore_1533 Жыл бұрын
btw ain't it weird that Kinkaku and Ginkaku came back to life with a full tank of kyuubi chakra. Did naruto give Neji any chakra? Cause with a little edo tensei we could use some of that too... FULL tank of 9 tail chakra stocked away in the pure lands, no seal needed (like with Minato)
@fkwithfriezaday
@fkwithfriezaday Жыл бұрын
Fuck Thundergod is underrated
@davidrussell7391
@davidrussell7391 Жыл бұрын
How would a curse mark work on a reanimation would it bring success rate to 100%
@demonitizingcharacter9710
@demonitizingcharacter9710 Жыл бұрын
I think that we have so many fighters and factors in this that just result in Obito losing. For example what if Itachi Toska blades a tailed beast and sealed them away. Or if nagato absorbs the barrier protecting the tailed beast. What if deidara uses his C0 and one shots all the zetsu. He just has so much man power and such a raw arsenal I think obito gets overwhelmed and loses.
@mattnamikaze7887
@mattnamikaze7887 Жыл бұрын
When talking about sealing jutsu can’t Obito use the human path? Also he could probably use the soul dragon thing Nagato used against Hanzo. Right?
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
Potentially it’s just not in his best interest or really in character
@willofd1540
@willofd1540 Жыл бұрын
What if Kakashi and Obito's Kamui ability were swapped.
@IMR22342
@IMR22342 3 ай бұрын
What happens when kabuto just doesn’t summon kinkaku/ginkaku? Obito looses his clear win con and kabuto doesn’t really loose that much. He’d have to know that obito needs the twins and he’s gonna need to avoid summoning madara but without those three out there I don’t see how the zetsu stop the edo tensei before they reach obito
@user-gj8ri8yd1z
@user-gj8ri8yd1z Жыл бұрын
9:00 you cant kamui edo tensei nagato away because you can't put him under genjutsu, due to him having rinnegan, so while inside of the kamui demention, he will hit obito while he try to phase
@fellowkrieger457
@fellowkrieger457 Жыл бұрын
I imagine the face of Kabuto right after the uno reverse. Soo hilarious. And Obito would be screwed right after Kabuto, double uno reverse ^^.
@christopherdarlington2846
@christopherdarlington2846 11 ай бұрын
looking at how this turns out it all depends on the madara summoning. whose side is he on ,does he repel the jutsu. also obito just needs to capture Kabuto and performs and izanami
@sillysimic79
@sillysimic79 20 күн бұрын
Here's how I would write the end of the fight. Regardless of how it goes up to this point, Kabuto reanimated somebody who doesn't want either one to win and kills thek both. This could work more easily with Madara, but I think it would be especially funny for Itachi to do. Kotoamataukami's his way free, gets Obito with the Totsuka blade (despite Kamui) and does whatever genjutsu to fuck up Kabuto
@Piano_improvisations
@Piano_improvisations Жыл бұрын
Can you do a Uchiha by the time of the coup vs the village by the time of the coup.
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
That’s actually 🔥🔥 I’m gonna do that
@Piano_improvisations
@Piano_improvisations Жыл бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG you should definitely also make 2 scenarios. Itachi on the side of the village or at the side of the uchiha
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's a good idea
@Piano_improvisations
@Piano_improvisations Жыл бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG and with or without danzo using Kotoamatsukami and with or without the nine tails because that would change the whole fight
@DBL-DBK738
@DBL-DBK738 28 күн бұрын
Anybody else wonder if Obito got PTSD upon seeing a Rasengan thanks to his fight with Minato?
@MegaMachiOnline
@MegaMachiOnline Жыл бұрын
I forget if y’all discussed this in the video but would itachi use the crow on himself and try to screw over their clash?
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
Naruto had the crow inside him so it would never happen here
@MegaMachiOnline
@MegaMachiOnline Жыл бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG ah, got it got it thanks
@latifahcahyadilla7411
@latifahcahyadilla7411 Жыл бұрын
Can nagato just, like... Reverse summon the gedo statue?
@estyvier2052
@estyvier2052 Жыл бұрын
Only way I see obito winning is through getting the biggest edo carries like nagato and itachi into kamui dimension, then using the tails beasts biju damas, and get shukaku to mass seal the edo tensei army, shukaku sealing power is quite something and he can do this in an area. Also remember kamui is a very broken ability, he can litarilly teleport to kabuto and such. If all of this does not work for wathever reason he can just absorve the 10 tails, and get full rinnegan. Also a huge factor is if madara is controlled by kabuto, he is gonna win, but if madara breaks free he losses.
@SaberEBW
@SaberEBW Жыл бұрын
The Gunbai is a huge counter to any Edo Tensei as it was able to reflect a Rasengan from KCM2 Naruto. Almost no edo scales to that besides Madara and its debatable if Madara would fight for Kabuto against Obito.
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
Louder for everyone in the back
@Headsuporheadstone
@Headsuporheadstone Жыл бұрын
Someone should talk more about the random duo's like when Kabuto showed up to the Jinchuriki turtle Island with a reanimated Deidara. How strong was that Duo really? Would be cool to talk about what would happen if that Duo was sent to capture Killer bee or a hypothetical against Pain etc.
@kaekae1782
@kaekae1782 Жыл бұрын
Excluding Madara. Kabuto has like 30 edos that can take on tailed beast and his heavy hitters can take on the Gedo Statue. He himself can beat anything in the battlefield.
@Byuiso
@Byuiso Жыл бұрын
What stops Kabuto from taking direct control of Itachi and Totsuka stabbing all the tailed beast the second Obito summons them? Is the KinGin bros more important than Itachi and Nagato who can destroy the tailed beast very effectively. Who controls the Gedo Statue? Nagato or Obito? If it is Obito putting it the Tailed Beast inside the Gedo Statue makes it a huge target for Muu, Itachi or Nagato.
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
You'd have to basically plug in and take control of Kabuto, he "can" it's just we were keeping it more in character in which kabuto doesn't care about gin and kin
@Byuiso
@Byuiso Жыл бұрын
Never mind the KinGin Bros. If Obito got spooked or desperate enough to summon the Tailed Beast I think it is very much in character for Kabuto to use Itachi or Muu to nuke either the statue or the beast themselves as leverage over Obito. He was willing to kill Naruto and Bee immediately I don’t see why he wouldn’t immediately nuke the statue or use Itachi to kill a tailed beast. Both the statue and the beast serve Obito negatively due to Itachi, Muu and Nagato all having highly effective measures to deal with them very quickly. They are almost unusable Vs. Itachi and Nagato as they will be killed or drained of chakra immediately.
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
It depends entirely if he decides to use them, I say in the vid the Gedo Statue runs so many less risks so it depends how you think he leads with, I do agree the Bijuu are very susceptible to a lot of Edo which is where Obito himself comes into play picking certain fighters off.
@DonQuixoteSosa
@DonQuixoteSosa Жыл бұрын
How’s obito gonna seal the edotensei shinobi with tailed beasts, Gedo statue and white zestu lol. His greatest hope is that Madara isn’t completely controlled by kabuto and switches sides. Then it’s a wrap lol.
@tythegreatttg
@tythegreatttg Жыл бұрын
Was black zesu a living karma
@PuffPuffPass123
@PuffPuffPass123 5 ай бұрын
Honestly having itachi and nagato approach the actual war would have sercured the W for them, naruto wouldnt be there to break itachi out of edo tensi control so him, madara and nagato are no diffing everyone and when naruto does appear with killer bee and possibly frees itachi madara would handle it, both at once lol
@elwichbyas7430
@elwichbyas7430 Жыл бұрын
Could Itachi's totsuka seal the 10 tails
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 Жыл бұрын
FIRST OF ALL Kabuto captured Yamato, so in this hypothetical, the Zetsu would NOT be upgraded. But EVEN IF I gave you that, I'm pretty sure the upgrade was not for stats. It was to allow them to morph into other shinobi/change their chakra signature, which would not be relevant in a fight against edo's. Edo army stomps, hands down :P
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
Yeah we said that was a minor concession we did for the sake of convo otherwise it’s neigh impossible to talk about the white Zetsu, I would say the upgrade did refer to stats just due to how Zetsu even before being amped by Kabuto could copy Kisame’s chakra and morph into him
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 Жыл бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG I must've missed that^
@mmltpb14
@mmltpb14 Жыл бұрын
Obitos only real issue is madara. Other than that we can look at how kabutos army did against naruto and get a pretty good idea of how obito would fair against them.
@mmltpb14
@mmltpb14 Жыл бұрын
@Paul W madara could have broken out of kabutos control at anytime. Edo madara and WM obito were comparable in strength several times also
@datdamnkez
@datdamnkez Жыл бұрын
How far does the gokage get against kabuto and obito army?
@kaekae1782
@kaekae1782 Жыл бұрын
Nowhere. Kabuto pulls out his collection of edos that trump the kage or he can fight them if he wants. And He Obito pulls out his collar toon of tailed beasts and the Gedo Statue or he fights them to f he wants. Either way they are done.
@nikofaershee4235
@nikofaershee4235 Жыл бұрын
I'm not a native speaker so I just want to know if I got something wrong. Shouldn't the title be WHOSE army? What grammar rule am I missing?
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
You are actually correct idk how I let that slip but lmao
@bleunt
@bleunt Жыл бұрын
Who is army would have you? Whose. Whose army.
@janpaulgarde8639
@janpaulgarde8639 Жыл бұрын
Kabuto's goal was to make obito & shinobi alliance fight each other so that he can capitalize in the aftermath, He doesn't give a shit about controling madara he only summoned madara just to troll obito and to wreck havoc to shinobi alliance
@chadmassiah557
@chadmassiah557 Жыл бұрын
Different versions of itachi vs the 5 kage that fought madara
@Isocromia
@Isocromia Жыл бұрын
Zetsus Die, Edo Tensei Don´t Die, Edo Tensei Wins, the thing is, WHY KABUTO IS HELPING OBITO? like... Obito has NO CHANCE, if i realy do not understand his confidence against Kabuto the First Time they meet, even just the Edo Akatsuki+Kabuto, can kill him, yes would take time, BUT, think about it, Obito can´t hurt Kabuto or the Edo Tenseis sooo. how he can win? Kamui is Terrible against that much fire power, bucause if they are inside Kamui and Obito Uses Kamui, they can Hit him fron inside, and even if he try to kill then inside, he can´t they are immortal and can´t hurt Kabuto with any fisical atack, even more than that , even if they are not immortal(what is not the case) Obito inside Kamui, is Just Tired Kakashi Level, the only thing that made him scary is Kamui, sooo i realy can´t see a world when Obito Wins. i realy think every gives too much credit to Obito, for no Good Reason.
@spit-fire
@spit-fire Жыл бұрын
If it’s in character, Kabuto is not gonna be fighting until he has to. He shy n shyt. And Obito will probably be smart enough to go for the jutsu castor.
@Cloke100
@Cloke100 Жыл бұрын
Kabuto's side is an honest stump, without the need for Madara.
@Isocromia
@Isocromia Жыл бұрын
23:40 Itachi can Just Seal the Gedo Statue, can´t he?
@ObitoUchiha-er5cv
@ObitoUchiha-er5cv Жыл бұрын
He can only seal living beings right? It's just a statue
@toddty11
@toddty11 Жыл бұрын
Mu can’t use particle style in edo right? Didn’t he try when he was with madara?
@DaedaliusRE
@DaedaliusRE Жыл бұрын
Wasn't it because he split his body? When Madara arrived one half of Mu was sealed which made it impossible for him to use particle style anymore. Or am I forgetting something?
@toddty11
@toddty11 Жыл бұрын
@@DaedaliusRE that could be it. I just remember him saying he couldn’t use it in that divided state. So you could be very much correct as that line would make sense if half of him was sealed.
@fellowkrieger457
@fellowkrieger457 Жыл бұрын
​@@toddty11 it was because of his splitters body state. At his first appearance on the battlefield, Muu was making a Jinton battle against Onooki.
@kendalldixon9527
@kendalldixon9527 Жыл бұрын
What if only Sasuke or Naruto survived their near death experiences?
@toddty11
@toddty11 Жыл бұрын
Plot twist, if madara breaks out of edo he’s fighting on obitos side because he’s the one that needs the 10 tails and obito alive so he can come back to life.
@215nahh5
@215nahh5 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t itachi still break out the edo ?
@hectorzarate3340
@hectorzarate3340 9 ай бұрын
While it doesn’t necessarily change the outcome you forgot about a couple more assets each side would have. Obito for example would have kisame, sasuke, and guruguru. While kabuto would go and revive jiraiya and danzo since he doesn’t get shut down in this version
@andrewdecker616
@andrewdecker616 Жыл бұрын
I'm giving team kabuto the win. Also u said they're relative (which may be the case) but you used the example of both armies losing 50% to prove/back that up but the zetsus had 20,000 more, that's a 1/4 of the entire shinobi alliance.
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Жыл бұрын
Zetsu's are honestly just there to occupy Kabuto's mental space just like the regular alliance. They're not beating anything but, will take time to deal with while Obito can pick off who he wants with the Gedo Statue and Tailed Beasts or enact a win con. In the same sense the Third Raikage Kabuto was controlling was steam rolling a bunch of shinobi but, it just took some time to do. It's that on 10
@ProHunter_invencivel1
@ProHunter_invencivel1 20 күн бұрын
Kabuki can make a clone and help him control other fighter.
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