Thank you for the support! I’m here for the lore and the analyses on this wonderful game! Even after 17 years!

Yes! I think given it’s proximity to the border, Sutch could have most definitely been under Hammerfell’s Jurisdiction at some point in time!

Also Dragonstar during the War of the Bend'r-mahk, and Lilmoth and probably many parts of southern Morrowind after the An-Xileel rise and Accession war. Tamriel's borders during the 4th era are probably a mess😅

The Warp in the West.

That’s the leading theory I’ve been reading so far as well! They certainly left minimal bread crumbs of Sutch around the game, it’s mostly the E3 Demo that has everyone wondering where it went!

Thank you for the support! I’ve been watching your content for awhile now! Huge inspiration for the channel!

Yes it’s very interesting! Likely because in the previous games they mentioned Sutch and that’s why they had to keep it in ESO as well as have brief mention of it in Oblivion!

It’s definitely my favourite Elder Scrolls game to this day!

Thank you for the support! I really appreciate it! It really is fascinating to think of how Sutch could have changed the game or what new things we would’ve seen!

😂😂😂 I like it!

This one was tons of fun to study on and learn more about! Definitely one of my favourites to make!

Because it did so much right.

That’s a pretty sweet idea! I’m surprised they never did anything to bring the one missing temple / chapel into the game! Even DLC!

Yes, interesting. In the KoTN dlc you have to go to a coven or grotto that’s dedicated to Kynareth. Perhaps they made this as a workaround for a missing temple in Such?

Thank you for the support! I appreciate it! The aesthetics for the lost city could have been very interesting to see!

Thank you for the support! I can see a lot of fans being up in arms for the cut content! It was interesting of Bethesda to leave some crumbs behind for us!

Thank you for the support! I really appreciate it! I can’t tell you how many times I re-record lines to make sure it sounds correct and clear! 😂

i second this, you narrated very well

Is his pronunciation of Boethiah correct tho??

@@pinoarias8601 it's not xD blud probably never played Skyrim, ESO or Legends where it's pronounced BoEthia million times

I ain't him, but it doesn't sound weird to me. I HATE shitty audio. Even if the material is top-notch, if the audio is garbage, I can't listen to it.

Yes! It definitely seems like a lot changed from Morrowind to Oblivion, then from Skyrim to Oblivion was pretty crazy! Your absolutely right that if TES6 takes places in Hammerfell, they would have an easy way of explaining what happened to Sutch!

Thank you for the support! Look forward to making new content to share with everyone! :)

There’s always a cool battle there between legion soldiers too

Thank you for the support! Oblivion is definitely my favourite entry too and I’m excited to learn and share more lore quests and glitches! 😁

Thank you for the support! I appreciate the kind words! :)

Thank you for the support! Yeah they definitely did a lot with Sutch and hopefully one day we’ll get to see it in a game! 😂😂😂 it was my first time coming across it’s name, I definitely should’ve looked up how to pronounce beforehand 😂 I was too confident in myself

That’s so awesome! I hope it was everything that was promised for oblivion! 😂 how was the early play through?

@@ABardsBallad They only allowed around 30 minutes of playtime, half of it was spent in Skingrad and the other half I spent sprinting across the land to see if Sutch was a place. I didnt really manage to get anything tangible other than that Skingrad looks interesting (Seems to be only half built) and that Sutch is a place. And that I was very confused by some of the landscapes (which are under some sort of curse as they said in the trailers). It seems to be a smaller town tho, not a city, so its definitely not going to be what was suggested for oblivion. But hey, they at least aknowledged it.

This is a super thought provoking comment! I never thought about all the dead end roads and trails! If Bethesda cut out Sutch, I’m definitely willing to believe they cut out a bunch more smaller settlements too!

World maps are often designed early on in the process, I suppose because it's a starting point for so many design aspects (certain artists, writers, level designers). So much changes during the dev cycle that it's simply not worth constantly updating high-quality renders of things like world maps unless there's a major change. When it comes to Bethesda specifically, it has a track record with this. Fallout 3 has the world map in-game as a prop (in the Brotherhood HQ) that's the same image as the one in the UI, just a different version of it. New Vegas (I know, different devs, but they had to work with the same tools) has discrepancies like TES4 does, especially roads that don't appear on the world map or vice versa. Every game has cut content, but these ones have tons. There are too many discrepancies to account for all the quirks of the world map vs. the actual worldspace, though. I bet at least some instances were simply an artist going "I'm thinking this road goes along here, then off there..." early on, then a bunch of stuff gets added to a whiteboard in the office, then before the team's done half of what they wanted to do, suddenly they only have a few months till release just to try fixing what's already in the game. If you wanna see how deep the rabbit hole really goes, look up how the map of Tamriel has changed with every game. That stuff is less "huh, game design is chaotic" and more "I don't know what to believe any more". You can also see from older maps that Cyrodiil has more major towns than it does now, even within the modern borders, that either became villages/ruins in TES4 or just disappeared. tl;dr: it's partly down to cut content, partly down to old lore getting twisted to fit the design of the new game, and partly down to human error. P.S. Nine cities for nine Divines kinda is and isn't true at the same time. Todd and co. must've known Kvatch's chapel would've been ruined early on in development, then after Sutch got the cut, it was a sort of happy accident to go nine for nine... if you just ignore the Imperial City with an amazing statue to Akatosh and not even a single priest/monk/worshipper around. Yeah, TES4 is flawed and broken and ridiculous, and I love it.

Thanks for the support! :) looking forward to sharing more content with everyone!

Thank you for the support!

Thank you for the support! All these years and it’s still an amazing game to come back to!

Thank you for the support! After all these years I’m glad to see there’s still a large fan base on KZfaq for the Oblivion content!

Thanks for the support! I’m looking forward to putting more videos out there as well!

Thank you for the support! It’s some really interesting lore and it would have been so cool to see and roam around the city!

I definitely would love to make those videos too! Thank you for the support!

Thanks for the support and the kind words! :)

Yes! I think that might be the leading theory so far that I’ve been reading!

Also your direct references to characters, cities, locations etc is great. Keep it up and expand upon what you’re already doing Greta and I’m sure you’ll find more of your audience! TES crew is just speculating for about a decade now so I’m sure any lore is appreciated. :D Keep it up!

Thank you for the support and I appreciate the kind words! :) the lore is just too interesting for this Universe! I look forward to being able to share more with everyone!

Thank you for the support! :)

Glad you liked it! :) definitely my favourite Elder Scrolls game too! The lore is too fascinating!

Yes! It’s really interesting how through our the rest of the games, we see little bread crumbs left over from the city of Sutch!

Thanks for support! 😁

It can certainly be done! As long as there’s info on it anything is possible!

The mod would be really cool to have installed and see what people have come up with!

Bethesda did their best at trying to hide it but there’s definitely some bread crumbs out there!

It would be interesting if they did a city remake!

It is more rewarding feeling for sure!

@@ABardsBallad very much so it also makes me more likely to actually explore the town to see if i unlock any other spots to travel

😂 I like it! It really is a shame though!

Yes! It would’ve been amazing to see these 2 cities in full action!

That’s pretty convenient! 😂 some mods would definitely be able to bring this city back to life!

Thank you for the support! :)

That’s a very interesting angle! It could definitely be something to look further into!

Absolutely! That sounds like an amazing video! I’ll be watching it for sure! :) you can link whatever you’d like my friend! All good with me!

@@ABardsBallad thank you! This is one of my favorite videos of yours so I’d love to plug it in

That’s a very fair point! He totally could’ve been talking in terms of Kvatch already being destroyed! That’s an interesting angle to look at it from!

Maybe! That would be really interesting if they did that! I’d love to see it done like that in a game one day!

how is TES 6 hinted to be in Hammerfell?

It’d be really cool to be able to finally get to see and explore the city if it was set in Hammerfell!

@@bierwolf8360 generally, the game prior gets a questline associated with the game next: morrowwind had a cult who were scared of an incoming daedric invasion. in skyrim, we have the alikir warriors and the thalmor questline. hammerfell is the only region to have resisted the thalmor invasion, which makes it a good setting for a continuation of the thalmor plot.

@@semicolon4452 I have heard people cite the Alik'r quest as a hint. Seems a rather unreliable indicator. I tried to find that Morrowind quest you mentionend but couldn't find anything the like. Finally, he said "strongly hinted". so I expect a bit more than this. When it comes to the story and setting of the next game, there are many things to consider. First and foremost, any decisions made by the player in Skyrim shouldn't be able to matter. That could be achieved twofold: a time jump or coming up with some explanation as to why all decisions led to the same outcome in a non-disrespectful way (mainly concerns the civil war). Seeing as most people expect TES VI to be centered around a second Great War and Bethesda probably wanting to meet fan expectations somewhat, it might indeed not be the time jump option. That would almost definetly rule out Skyrim as the next setting. It would be odd if they pivoted to make the Thalmor anything but the bad guys, hence why they'd probably strike first and thus we can conclude the setting would be Cyrodiil, Hammerfell or High Rock. However, the only actual information about TES VI we have is the trailer video. I maintain that the trailer cannot have been set in Hammerfell. Analyzing the video, the sun is clearly over the sea, on the right. Most people that state Hammerfell will claim the video shows the northern coast of Hammerfell. If that were true, the sun would be in the north - which it never is. It's physically impossible. Further, the sun hangs rather low in the sky and casts long shadows, indicating this is either dusk or dawn. Thus it isn't a south coast either. Finally, in the clip, we see seagulls flying towards the ocean. They do that in the morning, not in the evening as they need to be able to see stuff. Thus, it's the morning sun which is in the east. We have identified the coast as being an east coast. There are several places on Tamriel with an east coast, of course. Let's go down the list: Black Marsh: has a long east coast, but it's swampy and foresty. Quite unlike the trailer. Also, from what we know, it's a very unsuitable place for non-Argonians. It also wouldn't tie into the Thalmor business. Morrowind: the southern east coast is described as "practically Argonia", while the Telvanni peninsula is rather dry with treacherous cliffs. Maybe that's it. I doubt it though. Most of the place was destroyed, after all. Plus, why? Cyrodiil: specifically the Niben. Unlikely? Very. The area around Leyawin is green and fertile - and flat. Plus, while it's a wide river, it's not so wide we wouldn't be able to see the other bank. So, probably not Cyrodiil. Summerset Isles: Described as very green and fertile. It doesn't seem like what's in the trailer, plus, it'd be weird given that most people now hate the Thalmor/Dominion/Altmer. Hammerfell: has a bit of an east coast on the southern peninsula of Hew's Bane. It appears in the ESO thieves guild DLC. It's described as an extremly hot and dry place. Maybe. It's not totally impossible but I just don't really buy it. Plus, same as with the Leyawin argument, we should be able to see land towards the north and east as it's a narrow bay. Plus, the town showcased would then be "Abah's Landing", which itself is set in a bay. High Rock: Finally, the one I actually think is the right answer. The Rivenspire in northern High Rock has an almost perfect east coast. It's a gloomy cold-dry place with coastal mountains. Its depicition in ESO matches the clip pretty well, I think. The town would be Northpoint.

​@@bierwolf8360solid analysis but the issue with this is that bethesda is entirely willing to change geography as they see fit (cf Cydrodil's jungles) so i dont think a geographic analysis will necessarily be correct

It does make sense on that count! It’s just interesting that Kynareth doesn’t have a chapel dedicated to it!

😂 Cheers! Thank you for the support!

It’s the copyright free stuff from the CapCut editor! :)

That’s the leading theory I’ve been seeing at this point too! It certainly is plausible Todd no longer considered Kvatch a city!

You might be right! I’d have to take a look into it!

Thank you for the support! 😂 I like it! It really is unfortunate to see the 10th city go though!

Thank you for the support! Critique noted! :)

Yes! That’s likely the leading theory so far that I’m reading as to why he said 9!

First time posting the video! :)

I agree with you actually! I was thinking the same when I saw their uniforms. My logic was based off of the main colours of clothing we see around Cyrodil mixed with what lesser main colour we don’t see on the uniforms! Plus there are a few cities with red as their uniforms so we see that Bethesda isn’t above rescuing some colours! Yet totally agree with you that Leyawiin likely represents green!

You know what brother, I did and that was a great catch 😂 I am surprised no one else caught it! Cheers!

Yes! Working on the pronunciations! Will be corrected for the future!

😂 I like it!

😂😂 I like that one better! Adds more flair to the name!

Yes! I think that might be the leading theory right now!

Thank you!

@bluedemion7207 I have seen your face in my dreams…..

@@ImperialKnowledge well here we go again

Thanks for the support! It’s some of my favourite lore to learn about and tell stories of! :)

I’ve since learned! Thank you for the clear up though!

I’ll have to check it out! I’ve heard a lot about Skyblivion working Sutch back in!

@@ABardsBallad This is a mod for Morrowind - titled Project Tamriel. They are re-creating Cyrodil and Skyrim. If you look at the pics they have for Sutch...it's insane.

I agree!

Noted!

It’d be really cool to see that! Especially since it’s the fan base in control of it, we’ll get to see some true fan fair for it!

Yes! There was something about the cities in Oblivion that some of them feel more like small villages!

Working on the pronunciation for futures videos! My bad on this one 😂

Noted! Working on my pronunciation!

Tell me about it!

Yes! Learned that after making the video! Noted for next time!

@@ABardsBallad 🙌🫶🫵💪

😂😂😂 Yeah my bad on the pronunciation! I’ll fix it for next time!

I gotta heart everyone’s comment! And not in this game! Every major city can be travelled to! It’s just the little settlements and everything else that has to be discovered!