"Octopus Rules Apply"!!!

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Cracking The Cryptic

Cracking The Cryptic

Күн бұрын

** TODAY'S PUZZLE **
[Simon recorded this video on his laptop and we're aware that the video quality drops in the last 15 minutes. Apologies. It would have been awful to have to junk it given the quality of the puzzle. Things should be back to normal tomorrow.]
Happy Birthday ThePedallingPianist - who returns to the channel with an absolutely extraordinary sudoku tonight called Killer Octopus. It is absolutely remarkable that this has a unique solution and the logic is extremely original. He shouldn't really be giving us presents on his birthday but it seems he has!
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Rules:
Normal sudoku rules apply. Digits in a cage must sum to the given total. Octopus rules apply. I.e. draw 4 lines that must each: i) not cross or overlap anywhere except r5c5, where they all intersect; ii) have 180-degree rotational symmetry around r5c5; iii) visit exactly 2 cells on the edge of the grid, which are the beginning and end of the line; and iv) all be the same length (in number of cells passed through). The 4 lines are "Same Difference" lines. I.e pairs of adjacent digits on a line must all have the same difference, though this difference may be different for different lines.
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@michaelmatter1222
@michaelmatter1222 10 күн бұрын
Let's get kraken
@samueldeandrade8535
@samueldeandrade8535 10 күн бұрын
Hahahaha.
@CasMcAss
@CasMcAss 10 күн бұрын
You win the internet for today
@laurv8370
@laurv8370 10 күн бұрын
The best comment!
@PassionPopsicle
@PassionPopsicle 9 күн бұрын
Just commenting to upvote. This is brilliant 😂
@hinkeiyuen137
@hinkeiyuen137 9 күн бұрын
Wahderful😂😂😂
@martysears
@martysears 10 күн бұрын
I couldn't disagree more with people who are saying this shouldn't have been featured because of the unfortunate technical problems at the end. This is such a brilliant puzzle that it would have been tragic not to show it, especially considering that the majority of important and awesome deductions were clear and unaffected, and really only the end 'cleanup and sudoku' part was hard to follow. Let's remember that CTC have put out 2 vids a day for 4 years, and very rarely, if at all, has there been any problem with video quality. Congrats (and happy birthday) again Stu - a much deserved feature of this masterful construction. And Simon, fantastically solved and explained as usual - thanks for taking some time out of your holiday to record this :)
@user-gj5uc4yx3i
@user-gj5uc4yx3i 10 күн бұрын
I tend to listen more than watch the end of videos where all shading and drawing has been completed so I can't say I minded at all. It was lovely to hear from Simon during his well deserved time off as well!
@davidrattner9
@davidrattner9 10 күн бұрын
Wonderfully written from you about quality/2 videos a day, this incredible puzzle!! Much respect for you as always!!
@laurv8370
@laurv8370 10 күн бұрын
Agree!
@puritan7473
@puritan7473 9 күн бұрын
100% well said Marty
@Matthewhayward86
@Matthewhayward86 8 күн бұрын
Yeah loved this still, allowed me to keep up with Simon! Incredible puzzle
@ThePedallingPianist
@ThePedallingPianist 10 күн бұрын
Thank you for this wonderful birthday treat, I'm very flattered and grateful that you took time out of your holiday to record this! The solve was very smooth and hit all the right points in all the right places, though you could have used the 5-cage a little earlier to help avoid some of the notation agony! This is the second puzzle I made with "octopus rules", and I'd love for it to be normalised because there's so much potential and fun to be explored with it. In fact, Marty Sears made me a birthday puzzle using octopus rules (though he words it much more cleanly!) that is, naturally, brilliant! I was very lucky that the puzzle just seemed to fall into place as soon as I had the ruleset and some ideas about how certain cages could be particularly potent and how to break the symmetry. But this was actually to the puzzle's detriment as there tends to be a positive correlation between the amount of effort and struggle that I put into setting a puzzle and the amount I promote it to solvers and content creators! I've been absolutely spoilt by the sudoku community today - shout out to Ratfinkz, Laake and my dad as well as Marty for making personalised puzzles for me that I've been solving on Twitch this evening! And thanks again to you, CTC, and to all the lovely commenters for making my evening extra special. What a wonderful community we have :)
@davidrattner9
@davidrattner9 10 күн бұрын
Fabulous puzzle from you!! Hope you had a wonderful bday 🎉🎉!! Love how you constantly set!! Tons of respect!!
@maht0x
@maht0x 9 күн бұрын
well done, especially for avoiding the spicy windmill
@pouletbelette
@pouletbelette 6 күн бұрын
Happy belated birthday! Great puzzle, very interesting and promising rule set. Thank you!
@Babinzo
@Babinzo 10 күн бұрын
Simon's delayed understanding of the puzzle name truly underlines that his brain is not in work mode 😂
@ghosttwo2
@ghosttwo2 10 күн бұрын
Not as bad as the delay on his mouse capture software. There's a few moments where the cursor goes full Dr. Strange and spawns a dozen copies of itself.
@RyanAtOptimism
@RyanAtOptimism 10 күн бұрын
20 minutes into the video he has a SUDDEN REALIZATION. LOL
@markbooth6706
@markbooth6706 10 күн бұрын
Reminds me of them doing the puzzle in the Simpsons. “Oh, it’s a donkey”
@richardwingrove953
@richardwingrove953 10 күн бұрын
Fair play to him for doing an extra puzzle while on holiday, he could have queued up a few more prerecorded ones but he put the effort in for this one especially! Simon, if you're reading this - get back to your holiday! No excuses!
@sjm6280
@sjm6280 10 күн бұрын
Simon in front of his laptop camera declaring "Octopus rules apply" while someone from the hotel staff enters the room to change the towels
@Killrrhubarb
@Killrrhubarb 10 күн бұрын
The drilling in this video is from maverick, not letting simon get any rest, even on holiday.
@blackjackfitz
@blackjackfitz 10 күн бұрын
I’m so glad to see this one get featured, a brilliant puzzle and a lovely birthday present for The Pedalling Pianist!
@RichSmith77
@RichSmith77 10 күн бұрын
Okay, "different same differences" is some whole new level of language inception. 😂
@Jeff_Saunders
@Jeff_Saunders 10 күн бұрын
The different same differences are also in an arithmetic sequence 1,2,3,4 with a common difference of 1, so they're same difference same differences!
@MaierFlorian
@MaierFlorian 10 күн бұрын
Pretty unfortunate that the laptop did give up on such a long video, the ending is nearly impossible to follow, but it seems like a pretty interesting and cool puzzle :)
@LednacekZ
@LednacekZ 10 күн бұрын
i thought i was going crazy
@thescrewfly
@thescrewfly 9 күн бұрын
I did wonder, when I could no longer see the cursor or saw multiple cursors, whether it was my connection, Simon's or KZfaq being rubbish again.
@ronjohnson6916
@ronjohnson6916 10 күн бұрын
I could follow thanks to Simon's commentary. Which says a lot about how good his commentary is.
@RoderickEtheria
@RoderickEtheria 10 күн бұрын
39:01. When you realize the 258 line and the 159 line both need five 5s, it makes for a quicker puzzle as you already know that all your 5s were used for these two lines. Thinking about parity is probably the harder part of this puzzle, even compared to realizing all but the central 5 are located in the Phistomofel ring.
@dontmindme2844
@dontmindme2844 8 күн бұрын
Yup...fairly quick solve when you use Phistomefel to place the 5's in the corner 4 squares. Especially when you figure out they can't go in the very corner.
@subinmdr
@subinmdr 10 күн бұрын
Kraken' the Kryptik This is just excellent! It's mind-blowing how much work that 5-cage is doing .
@myrtinyrtti
@myrtinyrtti 10 күн бұрын
found your incredible channel today and can’t stop watching, love your stuff❣️
@tessabrisac7423
@tessabrisac7423 10 күн бұрын
Welcome to your new addiction!
@David_K_Booth
@David_K_Booth 10 күн бұрын
Welcome along!
@laurv8370
@laurv8370 10 күн бұрын
that's nothing new, CTC just made a new victim...
@myrtinyrtti
@myrtinyrtti 9 күн бұрын
@@laurv8370 🤣
@kathyjohnson2043
@kathyjohnson2043 9 күн бұрын
If you haven't already done so, I encourage you to watch the most popular video, the Miracle Sudoku. And welcome!
@thejuggler42
@thejuggler42 10 күн бұрын
Happy birthday Stu! You're a top tier constructor, but more importantly just a really lovely chap.
@patrickgass787
@patrickgass787 10 күн бұрын
A most deserved feature. ThePedallingPianist not only has one of the most unique, brilliant minds in the Sudoku world, they're also incredibly kind and generous. This is one of their finer puzzles but there are so many to choose from, hopefully we see another feature of them soon!
@emilywilliams3237
@emilywilliams3237 10 күн бұрын
I was so intrigued by this puzzle, and so glad to see you 'live' , Simon - thanks for all that you and Mark have done to make it possible for little old me to see two fantastic, amazing, brilliant sudoku videos every single day. This solve and puzzle were great and I am not sorry that you posted the video despite the technical problems it developed toward the end. The puzzle definitely deserves to be seen, and a very fitting way to wish Pedaling Pianist a very happy birthday!
@davidrattner9
@davidrattner9 10 күн бұрын
Wonderfully written from you as always!!
@ryaneakins7269
@ryaneakins7269 10 күн бұрын
A siren went off near my house as I reached around 21:31, and for a moment it seemed like that was what Simon was reacting to.
@sarahnash7174
@sarahnash7174 10 күн бұрын
So glad this got featured! The Pedalling Pianist is a terrifying constructor, but a really top bloke! So pleased for him to get this feature! Happy Birthday my friend! 💜💜
@davidrattner9
@davidrattner9 10 күн бұрын
Agree !! Fabulous puzzle. How have you been doing?
@HunterJE
@HunterJE 10 күн бұрын
39:50 Not quite accurate to say the 11 cell line has more 5s than the 9 cell line; since the 9 cell line had 5s at the end, adding another cell at either end actually adds two more 1/9s or 2/8s. It's at length 13 that you get another pair of 5s...
@CauchyIntegralFormula
@CauchyIntegralFormula 9 күн бұрын
20m09s. That was cute!!! Figuring out how the four difference lines functioned was a treat, as was the realization (thankfully early on) that the 5's on the large difference lines forced a lot of things
@Acylumgaming
@Acylumgaming 10 күн бұрын
Hahaha I keep skipping through the video to get to the part I'm stuck at and every time I play the video there's something else going on with the room. The drilling, the gurgling, the pen dropping on the floor... I half expect the room to be flooded and Simon to be at a cafe by the end of this lol
@naiffvii4196
@naiffvii4196 Күн бұрын
This was absolutely hilarious
@toms7114
@toms7114 10 күн бұрын
Once I noticed there were 4 5s in the Phistomefel Ring that there had to be 4 5s in the outer 4 cell square corners of the grid. Since the lines that had 5s on them could only have two cells from an edge of a 3x3 square before having the sole 5 in that square. Thus the 5 cage meant that the octopus was leaning down on the right side with the red line passing through the 14 cage above the 5 cage and ending on the top 5 of square 9. I had been saying this to Simon for a good 20 minutes before he noticed. This is one of the rare occasions where I see something before Simon does, and can explain it logically.
@Aaron-ux2hi
@Aaron-ux2hi 10 күн бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to make us this video, even while on holiday.
@amandar283
@amandar283 10 күн бұрын
Thank you for taking time out of your holiday to post a puzzle for us!
@Jigkuro
@Jigkuro 10 күн бұрын
Done in a mere 22:25. I noticed early that that the 3 and 4 diff lines took not only the 4 5s in the ring, but 4 more to reach the edge. This forced 1 of only 2 possible (reflected) distributions of 5s, which the 5 cage immediately disambiguated.
@victoriam6569
@victoriam6569 8 күн бұрын
Cool! I did the same and was wondering why I finished unexpectedly fast (25:48), while usually I'm quite slow. Fun puzzle!
@frankjiang1857
@frankjiang1857 10 күн бұрын
Finished in 43:02. I had solved the octopus parts pretty easily, but spent almost 20 minutes trying to figure out what the sudoku was, but was getting stuck and not figuring out how to solve the actual sudoku. But then I realized that I hadn't finished one leg of the octopus and thus was trying to solve the sudoku with not enough information. Lesson to be learned, finish all your octopus legs! Fun puzzle!
@bobblebardsley
@bobblebardsley 10 күн бұрын
My brain must be on holiday mode too because despite immediately knowing how box 5 must be arranged, I still had it in my head that the lines could only move orthogonally thereafter. (This is a me problem, not a problem with the puzzle or its rules...!) PS Good to see you, Simon Of Sudoku Present, I hope you're enjoying your holiday!
@michaels4340
@michaels4340 9 күн бұрын
11:30 I was thinking of this as "On each line, we have an arithmetic sequence with the middle digit going in the central square of the puzzle; therefore, in box 5, each line has one digit below the central square and one digit above the central square, and none of these digits overlap between lines. So the central digit of the puzzle is greater than four digits and less than four digits; hence, it's 5."
@Dido01
@Dido01 7 күн бұрын
I love the version with extra graphics, but an octopus actually has three hearts, and only one is depicted. Yes, I'm at least as much fun at parties as Simon 😐
@strehlow
@strehlow 10 күн бұрын
The audio is definitely different, but perfectly adequate and clear, and the odd noises you're mentioning are mostly inaudible, even with headphones.
@davidrattner9
@davidrattner9 10 күн бұрын
Lovely solve Simon and constantly thank you for your passion and love of solving puzzles for us. It truly shows what kind of person you are for giving us videos when you are on holiday.
@ericpraline1302
@ericpraline1302 9 күн бұрын
What a remarkable puzzle. At first I was bamboozled, but gradually I got my head round it and the way the possibilities were narrowed down was a revelation.
@Ironypencil
@Ironypencil 10 күн бұрын
One of the first puzzles I solved without taking any hints from the video! This was really nice
@AnnaChiaraBellini
@AnnaChiaraBellini 9 күн бұрын
OMG! I loved solving this puzzle! It totally made my day :) Took me a while to crack it, but it's been a joy. Now I have to watch Simon's solve to learn, as usual, what I could have seen that I didn't :)
@chocolateboy300
@chocolateboy300 9 күн бұрын
I finished in 110 minutes. This one was so tough tracking all the possibilities of the lines. I quickly figured out that they all cross straight through the center block, but beyond that it started to branch very quickly. I completely missed that lines could cut back towards the center, while making progress towards the outside. I thought I had broken it in box 9 cause my version of Simon's blue line couldn't connect to a 5, completely missing that it could go back up to a 9. This puzzle makes you pay attention. Great Puzzle!
@SanyaJuutilainen
@SanyaJuutilainen 9 күн бұрын
46:50 - all the lines need to be the same length, so position of 9 is given right away, it needs to be on the edge, otherwise the line will be too long. Gets filled in 12 minutes later, poor nine.
@inspiringsand123
@inspiringsand123 10 күн бұрын
Rules: 03:26 Let's Get Cracking: 08:30 What about this video's Top Tier Simarkisms?! Phistomefel: 6x (14:13, 16:00, 16:02, 16:18, 16:48, 20:55) Three In the Corner: 2x (1:00:56, 1:01:01) Construction Work: 2x (21:26, 46:27) Bobbins: 1x (30:56) And how about this video's Simarkisms?! Hang On: 13x (04:36, 05:37, 12:17, 14:55, 17:59, 22:07, 27:58, 36:25, 36:25, 50:55, 51:53, 52:48, 53:52) Beautiful: 9x (18:19, 18:21, 24:47, 24:50, 28:00, 28:04, 40:43, 40:43, 56:02) Symmetry: 9x (04:25, 04:47, 04:54, 05:05, 16:43, 30:29, 43:52, 49:46, 54:25) Ah: 6x (19:37, 27:56, 50:59, 51:53, 51:53, 52:51) Obviously: 5x (00:47, 02:44, 15:33, 39:09, 48:42) Goodness: 4x (08:16, 12:13, 21:23, 23:55) Sorry: 4x (05:08, 07:53, 21:26, 49:41) The Answer is: 4x (18:51, 20:16, 38:45, 56:16) Ridiculous: 4x (56:05, 56:58, 56:58, 1:02:02) In Fact: 4x (39:03, 56:31, 56:34, 1:00:14) What on Earth: 3x (29:55, 31:04, 35:07) Gorgeous: 3x (22:20, 22:20, 54:00) Bizarre: 3x (28:02, 45:24, 45:28) Wow: 3x (24:41, 55:57, 55:57) Good Grief: 2x (54:18, 1:01:48) Bother: 2x (19:39, 19:39) Fabulous: 2x (1:01:59, 1:01:59) Weird: 2x (35:30, 48:14) Apologies: 1x (05:25) Naked Single: 1x (58:58) Home Straight: 1x (1:00:32) Brilliant: 1x (1:01:27) Incredible: 1x (35:24) Astonishing: 1x (48:21) Take a Bow: 1x (1:01:56) Come on Simon: 1x (59:57) Shouting: 1x (00:34) Red Five Standing By: 1x (30:20) Stunning: 1x (47:22) Whoopsie: 1x (06:07) What Does This Mean?: 1x (13:32) Up to Snuff: 1x (05:10) Nature: 1x (47:41) Pencil Mark/mark: 1x (47:38) Cake!: 1x (03:22) Unique: 1x (01:28) Most popular number(>9), digit and colour this video: Eleven, Sixty Eight (10 mentions) Five (111 mentions) Green (25 mentions) Antithesis Battles: High (3) - Low (0) Even (10) - Odd (3) Row (14) - Column (14) FAQ: Q1: You missed something! A1: That could very well be the case! Human speech can be hard to understand for computers like me! Point out the ones that I missed and maybe I'll learn! Q2: Can you do this for another channel? A2: I've been thinking about that and wrote some code to make that possible. Let me know which channel you think would be a good fit!
@RenameJames
@RenameJames 7 күн бұрын
Brilliant puzzle and brilliant commentary. Even after the kraken had claimed the video, I could still mostly follow what Simon was doing. It's a testament to the quality of this channel that even with the technical difficulties this was still a wonderfully enjoyable solve to watch. Somewhat amusing note: I had looked away at the start of the video, and initially thought it was one of Mark's because Simon's voice sounded so different.
@chris5619
@chris5619 9 күн бұрын
My favorite part is when Simon changed the pencil mark digit size from large to small so that he could see the 11 cage after he already filled in the digit options! It actually helped with the 14 cages, but he seemed to be looking right at the 11.
@grahamania
@grahamania 9 күн бұрын
00:31:41 for me. Great puzzle. Loved the break in, and then it just flowed so smoothly to the end! Kind comment.
@BozoTheBear
@BozoTheBear 10 күн бұрын
Brilliant puzzle! I needed quite a few hints to get into it, but it was still easy to enjoy this work of genius!
@estherwestbroek
@estherwestbroek 9 күн бұрын
Kraken cracked the laptop once it's legs grew long enough!
@deathpigeon2
@deathpigeon2 10 күн бұрын
Have you not heard of octopus rules? It's such a common ruleset.
@MasterHigure
@MasterHigure 10 күн бұрын
My immediate reasoning for a 5 in the middle: Use the secret! The total sum of all the entries on all the lines (counting the middle multiple times) must be 45 plus 3 times the middle digit. But each line segment is an arithmetic progression with the middle digit in the middle, so each of them sum to thrice the middle digit. 12 times the middle digit equaling 45 plus thrice the middle digit means middle digit is 5. Of course, "9 needs it to be at least 5, and 1 needs it to be at most 5" works too.
@biaberg3448
@biaberg3448 10 күн бұрын
Wow, 😮
@bobh6728
@bobh6728 10 күн бұрын
But the sum of all the digits on the lines are 151 plus three times the middle. And 5, 2, 5, 8, 5 on the red line is not an arithmetic progression. So great result, but I’m not sure how you got there.
@badrunnaimal-faraby309
@badrunnaimal-faraby309 10 күн бұрын
They meant the sum of all digits on the lines in box 5.
@MasterHigure
@MasterHigure 10 күн бұрын
@@bobh6728 What they said. Not the sum over the entire line (at this stage we have no idea how long the lines are, for instance). Just the segment that was drawn in the beginning, filling box 5 and nothing more.
@bobh6728
@bobh6728 9 күн бұрын
@@MasterHigure Sorry, I misunderstood your original explanation. That makes sense.
@Scojo486
@Scojo486 10 күн бұрын
Happy Birthday Stu!
@longwaytotipperary
@longwaytotipperary 10 күн бұрын
Good to see you in a light-filled room! Hope you are enjoying your holiday!!
@davidrattner9
@davidrattner9 10 күн бұрын
Agree and we love Simon for taking his time to constantly give us either "live" videos or prerecorded when he is on holiday or things going on in his life. ❤❤❤
@longwaytotipperary
@longwaytotipperary 9 күн бұрын
@@davidrattner9 yes, we certainly do!!! ❤️❤️❤️ 😊
@miran248
@miran248 10 күн бұрын
It appears Simon's laptop is afraid of octopuses.
@Vedvart1
@Vedvart1 10 күн бұрын
Did it in 31:07 - probably my best time relative to the video length that I've ever done! Really satisfying puzzle, I absolutely loved how the lines were really restricted by all the small things you never would have expected.
@davidblake6889
@davidblake6889 9 күн бұрын
Great solve, Simon, but it looked like your dial-up modem dropped to 9600 baud for the finish. Great puzzle from the Pedalling Pianist, and happy birthday, by the way. Very glad you uploaded the video. Thanks.
@nonyobisniss7928
@nonyobisniss7928 10 күн бұрын
I got a long way into this puzzle having forgotten the rule about the arms all reaching the edge of the grid, then ground to a halt and spent another half an hour mostly getting nowhere before remembering. Serves me right!
@andremouss2536
@andremouss2536 7 күн бұрын
10:50 it's very simple : the rules imply that the sum of the three cells visited by each line in the central box is three times the value of the central cell. So this sum is the same for each line, and four times this sum is 45 plus three times the central cell. So the central cell (by a modular 4 argument) is 1, 5 or 9. But 1 and 5 are clearly impossible, so the central cell is 5 and the total is 15, the lines are 159 258 357 456.
@attker89
@attker89 10 күн бұрын
This was a very interesting puzzle. I hope we see more puzzles where "Octopus rules apply." It could be interesting to pair Octopus Rules with German Whispers or Slow Thermos.
@kevinbrownsword9558
@kevinbrownsword9558 9 күн бұрын
Wonderful puzzle. I spent a bit of time staring at the initial star pattern without a clue. Then it all seemed to fall into place.
@jdyerjdyer
@jdyerjdyer 9 күн бұрын
Took me less than two seconds to put the 5 in the middle and recognize that the other digits had to be opposites for each line. The work the digit 5 did was amazing, as did the 5 sum cage in the bottom. I think that alone makes this puzzle stand out! Sad to say, I did have to peek at the video to get the start going as I didn't immediately recognize the importance of the ring, but from there the logic is very easy to see and once you see it, the puzzle just opens up like a present on Christmas! :)
@iceberg54321
@iceberg54321 10 күн бұрын
The ruleset should read "which are the beginning and end of (each line) or (the lines) (plural) instead of the line (singular).
@Rubrickety
@Rubrickety 10 күн бұрын
Spectacular puzzle! Also It's been quite a while since I've spent this much time stuck because I forgot a rule ("same length, you dolt!"🤦‍♂). I stared for ages unable to disambiguate the 1-difference line at the end.
@walkerp2756
@walkerp2756 10 күн бұрын
The 9 in box 8 (and 1 in box 2) could have been gotten sooner by remembering that all lines must be the same length - you had already determined the length with the red and green lines. :)
@markp7262
@markp7262 10 күн бұрын
41:33 finish. I missed one of the rules, the part about legs being of equal length. This, plus a single missed piece of logic, led me off on a 15 minute tangent to an ALMOST solve, but hit a deadly pattern right at the end. Fortunately I was able to rewind and push through (eventually). An excellent puzzle!
@Paolo_De_Leva
@Paolo_De_Leva 10 күн бұрын
This outstanding masterpiece can be more easily solved using *placeholder digits* to simplify and improve your notation. I would not have been able to solve it without them. Simon's explanations would have been much easier for inexperienced viewers to understand. See my playlist for more information about this technique. In this case, you can start by placing *5* either in *r6c3* or *r6c7,* and then just ignore as long as you can the *5-cage* in box 9, which is the only available disambiguator. If you end up with a *5* in that cage, you know you need to switch to the alternative configuration. The transformation needed to switch from one configuration to the other is a *mirror reflection* with respect to *column 5* (i.e, for instance, *r9c2* becomes *r9c8* and viceversa). Of course, if you happen to choose the "correct" configuration, you can *easily* prove uniqueness by showing that the alternative one would be incompatible with the 5-cage. Never forget that placeholders are symbols (like letters). Each of them represents two candidates. They are not a guess❗ They represent *both* configurations at the same time. The final transformation is needed to switch from placeholder digits to real ones, not from a "wrong" configuration to a "correct" one.
@Paolo_De_Leva
@Paolo_De_Leva 10 күн бұрын
By the way, this puzzle is stratospherically awesome, outstandingly beautiful and wildly innovative. Thank you *PedallingPianist* for designing it and thank you *Simon* for featuring it.
@57thorns
@57thorns 9 күн бұрын
48:24 I think remember that all lines are the same length and all lines has to reach the end would have made things a bit easier. Nope, looks like Simon did not remember that but found some other way to make that deduction.
@WimmekeVL
@WimmekeVL 9 күн бұрын
Bobbins alert, Simon is about to remember that all lines need to have the same length and end at the border so he already knows where the 9 and 1 go.
@d_x_r_r
@d_x_r_r 10 күн бұрын
24:28 for me, loved it! The lines almost drew themselves once I realized the 5's had some real heavy lifting to do.
@petergerlagh9858
@petergerlagh9858 9 күн бұрын
Quite the pretty puzzle. I was helped a lot by Simon's noting the fistemefel ring and parity rules. After that I had it quickly, but simon still struggled for a long time. Perhaps it'd been faster if Simon had drawn in a couple of possible octopuses and looked at what happens in each case?
@Tepalus
@Tepalus 9 күн бұрын
26:22 for me. Once I understood the premise, it was one of the most smooth puzzles I have ever solved🎉
@gibbbon
@gibbbon 9 күн бұрын
being clear headed help solve those, i couldn't make sense of it, slept on it (literally, fell asleep on my desk) and when i woke up, i solved it right away! tho the counter kept running, so my solving time is 556:22 ... guess i slept 9 hours, uh? must have been tired
@Gonzalo_Garcia_
@Gonzalo_Garcia_ 8 күн бұрын
19:44 for me. What a fantastic puzzle, loved it!!
@zirco77
@zirco77 10 күн бұрын
Settings to check for overall audio quality on the laptop (sounds good enough to me, although Mark may disagree): beside the recording software that Simon surely checked, there might be non-obvious microphone settings (in OS parameters or vendor-specific software) such as "background noise removal". Those "enhancements" (add as many quotes as you like) often garble the sound much more than they enhance it (unless you are outdoor by a busy street on a windy day). In a quiet environment they can be turned off.
@DanielVita
@DanielVita 9 күн бұрын
The number 5 in the center of a puzzle seems to be a recurring theme.
@clifhuebner4700
@clifhuebner4700 10 күн бұрын
The subtle change on sudokupad rules are interpreted that a total of only 2 cells of all the lines are to touch the edge, rather than 2 cells of each line. This really threw me off and had to watch Simon's video. Thanks for clarifying.
@jakubt8701
@jakubt8701 9 күн бұрын
Fun fact - if you REMOVE the same lenght rule, there are two more solutions. I wonder if author considered another disambiguation rule, to make it harder.
@RecreationalCynic
@RecreationalCynic 10 күн бұрын
Solved it in 35:24. As soon as I knew the 4-diff and 3-diff lines had to use up all the 5's, I used Phistomefel and placed the 5's. Perhaps some would see that as playing a bit too fast and loose, but what can I say: I like to live dangerously.
@anaayoung9142
@anaayoung9142 10 күн бұрын
Awesome solve... maybe I will try the octupus rule in the next puzzle! 😊 I am seeing a rubber spider right in front of me, so this Octopus reminder of a spider too! 😅
@LadyEmilyNyx
@LadyEmilyNyx 10 күн бұрын
22 minutes to figure out why Octopus rules apply.... Oh Simon, I do hope you're having a wonderful vacation.
@Swisswavey
@Swisswavey 9 күн бұрын
Excellent puzzle, I really enjoyed it.
@stephenpassmore7306
@stephenpassmore7306 9 күн бұрын
I felt like I was sitting in a cave watching a spider spin its web. What an intriguing puzzle!
@MattYDdraig
@MattYDdraig 10 күн бұрын
21:29 On one hand this seemed to be quite an easy one. On the other hand I completely messed it up and had to restart after ten minutes from making some foolish assumptions about symmetry without even realising it. My own folly aside, this was an excellent puzzle.
@DarrenNakamura
@DarrenNakamura 9 күн бұрын
Finished in 66:31. I loved the opening with the fives but got stuck on the sudoku in the end.
@MarkWiseTechno
@MarkWiseTechno 9 күн бұрын
1:00:36 for me, but it wasn't very satisfying because I used some intuitive reasoning that I then didn't bother to prove. The 5 cage in box 9 forced a 5 into r8r9c9, and I intuitively recognized that the rules would force one of the lines to connect to that 5 in box 9, which could only be the red line. From there it was easy to see that the 5 would have to go in r8c9 and the red line would have to be the 2-8 line. I should have gone about proving this before using it to solve the puzzle, but I didn't because of how long I had already spent on the puzzle to reach that point. I just rolled with my intuition, and fortunately, it was correct.
@piarittersporn
@piarittersporn 9 күн бұрын
Great puzzle. At the beginning, however, I had to rely on some hints from Simon.
@Hannah_GBS
@Hannah_GBS 8 күн бұрын
I can only assume "Structuring the Octopus" will be the name of Simon's autobiography.
@stephenmccarthy1795
@stephenmccarthy1795 9 күн бұрын
He certainly caught on to the parity quickly though.
@Orenotter
@Orenotter 10 күн бұрын
I love when your brain gets all thinky. Your IQ, it's plain, is not dinky. Yiur solves are sublime And we have a great time Just a shame that your cam is all jinky. Greetings from the Pandora comics family, including our three tiniest members, Neville, Leon and Daisy.
@titusadduxas
@titusadduxas 9 күн бұрын
54:25 - I did read the comments first because I didn’t spot the break in which was rather annoying as it wasn’t as difficult as I’d expected. Gorgeous puzzle though.
@BeheadedKamikaze
@BeheadedKamikaze 10 күн бұрын
Is the original recorded footage corrupt, or just this upload? If the original footage is fine you could re-export the video and it will be OK assuming you can keep the heat under control on your laptop.
@dinidini4000
@dinidini4000 9 күн бұрын
i feel sad for the blue line it was finished the moment he looked at it if he rememberd the rules of the puzzle with line size but instead it sat there left alone for so long
@TurquoizeGoldscraper
@TurquoizeGoldscraper 10 күн бұрын
28:02 for me - I got stuck because I misread one of the rules. I thought it meant each end of the line touches two cells in the outer ring, not two in total, one on each end.
@chipsounder4633
@chipsounder4633 10 күн бұрын
Got spiral galaxies and bishop's move in mind here so where is the 5 in box 9?
@Michael--317
@Michael--317 10 күн бұрын
Goes on Holiday to get away from Maverick, still gets distracted by odd noises 😀
@LednacekZ
@LednacekZ 10 күн бұрын
25:26 for me. The trick was to realise what comes on the 2nd place from the middle.
@angec9908
@angec9908 10 күн бұрын
I guess the gurgling water has taken over for Maverick
@kathyjohnson2043
@kathyjohnson2043 9 күн бұрын
Don't tell me that Simon didn't take his scrabble bags on holiday!
@thetaphi
@thetaphi 9 күн бұрын
All good. Neither the puzzles nor Simons quality dropped in the last 15 minutes.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 10 күн бұрын
These rules are starting to read like a complex set of rule version of Mornington Crescent
@AngelWedge
@AngelWedge 10 күн бұрын
Lovely puzzle :) 38:28 for me, somewhat hindered by repeatedly assuming that the line I'm currently looking at can only move orthogonally for no obvious reason; and scanning failures stretching the non-legs part of the puzzle to 20 minutes even after the legs were done. (Also, an octopus's legs are more like tongues than legs)
@michaelandersen-kk4fc
@michaelandersen-kk4fc 10 күн бұрын
here comes the lobsters. simon really need to stay out of the sun 🙂
@leickrobinson5186
@leickrobinson5186 10 күн бұрын
Wow! 25:27 for me. I’ve never beaten Simon’s time by so much! 😮 (I’ve very rarely beaten his time at all.)
@MRafas-ie9zh
@MRafas-ie9zh 8 күн бұрын
Achievement unlocked: Disintegrating Simon
@karsaanita
@karsaanita 10 күн бұрын
28:22 for me. Just... what a puzzle!
@H0lyMoley
@H0lyMoley 10 күн бұрын
Pish, Simon doesn't know the "Octopus Rules"? Amateur. 🤣 Anyway, I'm at two and a half hours and still solving...
@ypsilonktze1760
@ypsilonktze1760 10 күн бұрын
I met another ctc fan at a party last weekend and that got us to talk about it to others. I was looking forward to sharing and recommending this puzzle as an example of how witty and wonderful Sudoku can be, until it started to lag towards the end. Any recommendations for a good video of Simon to recommend to potential new watchers?
@emilywilliams3237
@emilywilliams3237 10 күн бұрын
All of them - other than this one, perhaps! I think that the last several videos have been quite enjoyable and maybe a more suitable length for a new viewer. (They don't include birthdays, though, which I think is one of the most charming aspects of the channel and of Simon's videos, really.)
@tessabrisac7423
@tessabrisac7423 10 күн бұрын
The first Van de Wetering miracle, I should say…
@chipsounder4633
@chipsounder4633 10 күн бұрын
The recent april fools day video.
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