what we need is a lightweight, wireless headset like the quest 2, with the advanced finger tracking controllers like the index

"which is better for you?" *looks at my bank account* quest, definitely quest

If the Q2 controllers had like a grip button for each finger-and I guess a strap like the index-It'd be perfect. All fingers "tracked" with a bit of physical feedback/resistance.

Summarized: Valve Index is high quality at the sake of reliability and longevity.

Yay i finally got an oculus quest 2! And all I had to do was sell my soul to Mark Zuckerburg!

I've had my Quest 2 for over 2 months now. It's been a hassle, getting a silicone facepad, a better strap, and a Link cable. But now I'm in a good place now with Q2. $300 plus the $40 for accessories is a steal considering the competition.

i dont think people ever realize how much it helps a content creator to give them 100% watchtime on a video but every one of your videos ive seen so far are worth it your videos are packed with information right up until the outro every time

I am actually happy that my Valve Index has had almost 0 issues. The cable is still good controllers have had no major issues accept right controller not wanting to connect when first turned on. The base stations 2 of them have almost no whine and 2 have the whine. if you use something with some weight and hang it off the base station it will absorb the sound. Only Major issue I have with the headset is the glare, not terrible but would have liked it too not be as bad as it is. Have had the headset since April of 2021. Purchased March 8th 2021.

Me: I like the valve index Also me: looks at room I think the quest 2 will do

the audio on the quest 2 is what i need, if i had a valve my dad would be screaming at decibal level 200 before id hear him lol

Me watching this on the oculus😑

The Valve Index has something people don’t give enough credit to: Unparalleled audio. Playing games like Half Life Alyx on the Index makes it insanely more immersive because it sounds like you’re actually in that world, not like you’re listening to it through headphones

couldn't ask for a better review. thank you.

Hey man! I really liked your videos! (specifically the VR related ones you've made recently) I would REALLY love to see more VR content from you! keep up the great work and high quality videos!

I think that the Index deserved Tracking. Sure, the base stations are annoying, but you don't need to drill them into the wall. Also, The full tracking even when the controllers are behind your head is so nice compared to the front-only tracking. If the Quest 2 included optional base stations that connected to the console itself, that would be a real game changer.

Even now I still prefer my Index over my Quest 2

The Index actually gets rid of the screen door effect entirely because of it's LCD screen. A huge upgrade compared to the gen 1 Vive I used to have, which had a really annoying screen door effect.

Great job on the edit of this! So much effort and will help a lot of people down the line. I’m going quest 2!

One of the BEST comparison videos I ever seen, thank you so much for the great info!

I got into VR with Quest 2 can't remember how many months ago. Never would have gotten in to VR without being able to try it so cheaply, but I discovered it was amazing and became a VR junkie. Was on the fence, but ended up getting an Index...and I have not regretted it for a second. Quest 2 is great, but... I really prefer the Index. It's just so much more comfortable. I tried multiple head straps for the Quest, I like the halo one the best, but still... It's just so heavy. Might not seem like much at first, but after a few hours...the difference in weight makes a huge difference. And for PC VR, especially Steam games...just a better experience generally. Yeah, you can get a link cable... Virtual Desktop actually works really well for me, better than link cable...but neither can beat the combined Display Port, USB3, and dedicated AC adaptor of the Index. I thought the cables would be a downside, but in practice... I don't have enough room that I can roam around...even if I turn around in place, I'm more likely to hit something, so I just keep my feet planted. So I'd rather just have a cable and not worry about having to run out of power. I usually end up playing my Quest with it plugged in to my MacBook charger so I don't run out of power anyway. But the Index's cable is conveniently behind my back, but with the Quest, it hangs annoyingly over my shoulder. The better FOV is really nice. The controllers...pretty good, but even though they do have more of a premium feel vs the cheap plastic of the Quest, I'll actually give points to Quest, because the Index controllers restrict the range of motion of your wrists, and they give me callouses. But overall, I prefer using Index and am annoyed when I need to use Quest for some reason now. TL;DR: Quest 2 is a great way to get into VR, the value for the money is incredible... And it's perfectly adequate for PC VR. If you can't or don't want an Index or anything else, you're not missing out on THAT much. But if you have the money to spare and want the best PC VR experience you can get for $1K or less...The Index is totally worth it.

I've had the Quest 2 for about 9 months now and I absolutely love it. Between me and other family members it's had about 600 hours of use. Its still working without issue, even the foam interface is fine. The controllers have been whacked against TV"s, walls, picture frames, mugs and people and are still unmarked and work fine. I've modded the strap and attached an after market battery to the back but who cares when it's such good value in the first place.

Great video! Keep up with the good content 🙏

Tbh from 11 months ago to now, you have changed a lot you can see the drive and motivation in each and every video you do! Keep it up and meta what's up with a sponsor for this guy like omg 😅💯💯

I'm pretty much a VR novice but you explained everything quite well! Great video!

Thanks man helped me to make the decision.

Very useful comparison, thanks very much!

Great comprehensive analysis, many thanks for posting

you helped alot thank you! keep the good work up!

you could buy 2 256GB quest 2s both with link cable and elite straps for the price of a valve index

Great comparison review! I'm pretty new to the VR community but I've watched so many of your videos before I purchased my own Quest 2 because you keep it so reliable 👍

Great video! I got my Quest 2 just before the price hike and this just proves it was a very good choice and I'm very happy with it so far. Gaming on a monitor will never be the same again. Only issue I have is the battery life but it's expected at the price point which I will be addressing with a power bank. Mine came with a silicone cover in the box so now I feel special😂

You're literally the channel I was looking for!

3:39 I'm sorry Index you're to God damm thick -GetHip 2021

I love my quest 2, but after quite a few months of use, I’ve had a number of software issues. Sometimes I’ll randomly lose tracking, if I take off the headset and put it back on I’ll have to hard reset it. Among other things, it’s basically unusable now and oculus support wont replace anything.

Thank you, very informative. Trying to decide what I want for my first VR headset.

What a great video. You won all the categories, great info, great editing, great audio. Keep it up!

Wow this is one of the best videos I've ever seen about reviewing. You are incredible and I hope I will watch more of your videos in the future

“The controllers or how you interact with the virtual world” Hand tracking: am I a joke to you

Very nice info and thank you very much.

You did such a damn good job on this video. Great information.

As a newbie to VR (just bought the Quest today), this video was exactly what I needed to see. I had been seriously considering buying the Index, but this video made me very happy with my choice. Great work, my friend! Very much appreciated! Cheers!! :)

I, unironically, have the exact opposite experience in the controllers section for the Quest 2; my controller shell SNAPPED after hitting my clothes hamper which was close to me, so the durability isn’t all that good, (for me) and even though the material is white plastic and not painted plastic, the (what I’m assuming to be) matte coating scratched off along with color, on both the controllers and the headset itself. The tracking is fine though, and with the crack I just had to put some duct tape on the controller and let it seal for about a day. If you’re thinking about getting a Quest 2, don’t let my experience tailor your opinion, as this is a problem I’ve never seen on anyone else’s system. The Quest 2 is a great headset.

Thank you for this video, it was really helpful!

really i can't thank you enough for this video, i have been on the fence about what VR headset to get since it will be my first. and you have convinced me to get the Quest 2, to get into VR to see if i like it and potentially wait for a better and more reliable headset in the future. thanks again for the helpful video

I feel happier now knowing i bought a quest 2 from this video probably because like no one talks about which is better and what not but knowing i got something that is pretty good for it’s money even compared to a $1k headset

there are just not enough plugs in my room to charge 2 controllers, 2 base stations, have 2 monitors, my fan (for direction bearing) my PC, my lights, phone charger, smart assistant AND wireless access point, quest 2 immediately wins for me, if i plug anymore power squids in i trip the breaker EDIT: bearing in mind my room has 1 outlet that i current have 2 power squids plugged into eachother (a four plug and a six plug for a total of 9 because the 6 power squid takes up a port on the 4 one) and i currently have my phone, my lights (2 of them) monitors (2), PC, smart assistant, wireless access point and my quest charger

well done mate! thanks for the video

I loved the outro !

I got both. I got the index on release, and I just got the quest 2 a week ago. I agree the quest does feel like it will be more durable. So far I've had to replace my index controllers through the warranty once, and I've had to replace the headset itself due to the speakers quit working. It was actually after my 1 year warranty and valve still offered to replace the headset which was awesome, granted it was only a month or two after my warranty expired. If I had to chose one and was on a budget id get the oculus, and even if you have a pc you can get the link cable and run any steam vr game. I don't agree with what you said about the base stations, here they are 100 for an extra, and it comes with two in the box, it helps if you buy one more (3 total). I don't turn them on individually each time, they go into sleep mode and when I turn on steam vr they fire right up, and I do not hear a sound from them unless extremely close, almost ear resting on them. You don't have to mount it to a wall, you can use a stand or set them on a shelf if you have one. So far after a few year they haven't failed on me. Then again, its nice to not have to worry about base stations at all. I love being able to walk any wear in my house and play my quest with a quick set up.

the quest 2 is the new king of VR, fight me -higher resolution -120Hz refresh rate (on some apps) -easier setup -cheaper -wireless -works as a standalone and a PC headset (wireless using airlink) -better lenses (bonus : there is a little hack for the quest 2 controllers that converts the wrist strap to a grip, look it up on youtube) so it has the best value, with overall better functionality

Thanks for the excellent video!👍😀

This is one of my favourite videos:)

Thanks for the detail you put into this and your hard work. Definitely made my decision much easier.

this feels like someone is hammering me till i stop wanting the valve index

Great video Thank you very much!

i like this, keep up the good work👍🥳!

If you slide the Lenses on the oculus quest 2 to adjust IPD while wearing it you will see that that it officially supports in-betweens, there is a display stating if you are for example in 61 62 63 etc

im getting a quest 2 for my birthday next june and I am very impressed with how you have done the review, Keep up the good work

Thx for making my decision easy, I'm so glad I'm getting a quest 2. Thx

amazing video thanks for the help

So I got the quest 2 and 👍👍. The screen is ridiculously clear compared to my og vive, the wireless air link worked right out the box, so far it's been great. No wires, just grab it and go, more room to run around with, etc. Wider field of view is only complaint, would make it perfect with.

When I saw your sub count I said he at least has 1,000,000 but then I saw that you only have 40,000 you are the most underrated VR channel I've ever seen in my life keep up the good work.

Great video! Very informative. I've had a Q2 for about a year now and I thought I actually had a lower end model that everything else had passed by. Apparently I don't. My biggest issue with the Q2 is it being tied to FB. The audio is also an issue but most of my VR play is connected to a PC with a full surround audio setup, it's not that big of a deal. My grandson on the other hand, uses the Q2 wireless most of the time and we have had issues with the audio just not working at all until the entire system was restarted. Anyway, now I don't feel bad about only having a Q2, so thanks for that!

Excellent comparison.

I like how every time he gives a point to the quest 2 he goes “I’m gonna have to give a point to the quest 2” but when he gives a point to the index he goes “The point obviously goes to the index”

Def subscribed..thanks

thanks for this now i can show this to my dad and maybe ill get it like ur vids

Good comparison video!

Hell yh I'm early love the videos

In my opinion the index controllers are way better, I think the buttons feel nicer and the joystick just feels way better. I also have 3 friends that have a quest 2 and 2 of them have very bad drift. I have a index and a quest 2 and i have spend over 350 hours in each. (600 hours with the index and about 400 hours with the quest.) And I think that the index overall feels better in quality.

keep going brother love the content

you worked hard bro so i gave you a like!!

Man, Valve's gonna have a *Lot* of data from all the Index's they've replaced, Just like, envision the sheer number off stories you heard of full headset replacements they've done and further realize how long the Index has been around. They'll definitely have a *Lot* of active use data to run through to improve their next VR headset for when ever they decide to release it. I say release cause no doubt Valve is working on *Something* behind the scenes, they're Valve, they are always cookin up something in their labs. lol

this video has been extremely helpful, I've been overwhelmed with which VRheadset to get because i just don't have alot of experience with them and i didn't want to get one that i'd end up hating. im not a huge tech savvy person so being able to see and hear someone's full honest opinion on both systems has been really relieving for my decision making!

You are a badass. Thank you for hammering through all of this cogently. Excellent content. 🤝

Good video. I alwys was interested in VR. But wanted to wait until the tech gets better. Now I wanted to buy a VR headset and must decide between Quest 2 and the Index. This video helped me a lot to make a descision!

I bought the quest as a portable headset to bring on the go and it's now my daily driver. I ended up frankensteining it so it now has a DT 990 pro built in on the headset, mouth tracking, 3rd party straps with swappable batteries and VR covers. working on making my own vr gloves for finger tracking and from the looks of it, the way i am tracking the fingers is way more accurate than the index. Also want to try to get some eye tracking in there but that's for another project. I have had situations where I wasn't able to use it for a week until meta released a fix for some bug but 99% of the time it just works.

Great video and fair comparison. I went for the Valve Index with 4x 2.0 basestations, 4 vive trackers 3.0 (feet, waist, chest) simply for VR chat full body. But I fully understand how you rated this.

I already have a quest 2 but this video was still cool to see the problems and good things about it

GREAT video! Really professional!!😃

You are my new favorite VR youtuber. I love how unbiased your content is!

Index both headset and controllers is really meant to not be thrashed upon. It doesn’t excuse it on being fragile but it’s also important to keep in mind it’s not for on-the-go or thrown about and rather to be sitting next to a full desktop setup.

Okay Vr is great and everything, But your nails look amazing. could legit be a hand model lmao.

Congrats! You have just gained a new subscriber! 🥳 🎉

Cool video! Love the Oculus Quest 2!

I just want to include as this video is a year out now, currently there's a lot of cheaper and better alternatives now to the Quest Pro Strap, the BOBOVR M2 being the most popular. This is the one I use and I highly recommend, better quality than the pro strap, and is only $35. Also, all Quest 2 systems now come with a silicone cover for your facepad in the box if you don't like the feel of the sponge cover, so you don't even have to buy one yourself.

I just ordered a quest 2 yesterday and I'm waiting for it to arrive!

I love this content dude, but can we have more ranking vids

you forgot to mention the elite strap has weak points and there are tons of reports of the strap breaking at the same place but tbf oculus are allowing refunds fro like 2 years but its still good to mention

Realistically the only downside of the Q2 is the shorter fov and the IPD adjustment. Other things like uncomfortable headstrap can be fixed with a $40 accessory. You can get knuckle straps for the Q2 for like 20

tHANKS FOR THE INFORMATION..

Excellent comparison

Honestly, if I have a fun time using it, I don’t care what type of headset it is

I'm selling my Rift S and my oculus account and bought an Index just to get away from Facebook. Your rating in this video was great but "requiring" a Facebook account to use it is a deal breaker.

I was thinking about upgrading to a Valve, but after watching this, I just gotta say thank you for saving me a grand!

Thank u for helping me chose between the 2 so thanks (quest 2)

12:49 thought he was gonna promote raycon lol

For some reason I thought the index headset in the thumbnail was a Wii U game pad

I got my quest 2 for a month and, just by itself, the headstraps are indeed flimsy. Spending for accessories is a must if you want to get maximum comfort out of it. The wireless capability is awesome since... no cables flinging around. But, IMO, the important thing to address is the repairability/servicing. I saw people with quest 2 who had problems with broken lenses have no option to replace the lenses which means you gotta have to buy a new unit. While quality and reliability are both important, it's also important to have the option to fix the hardware yourself.

Dang ! Haha Ying and Yang ! That was good