ODA has the BEST TROOPS in EU4!

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Laith

Laith

Жыл бұрын

EU4 Japan is one of the most contentious areas in the game but as EU4 Oda, your starting ideas are INSANE. You get combat ability as well as the Daimyo government type which grant powerful EU4 Modifiers. You can unite Japan or form Japan pretty easily, despite the Ashikaga trying to stop you. After that, Ming is a simple trade war away and you can become the richest nation in EU4!
ODA has the BEST TROOPS in EU4!
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@Kasaaz
@Kasaaz Жыл бұрын
Hope to see a challenge to PREVENT consolidation of Japan some day. Keep as many Daimyo as possible for a set amount of time or something.
@ianmiller8399
@ianmiller8399 Жыл бұрын
As a Daimyo or as the Shogun because when I played as the Shogun forcing sepuko at every available moment the daimyos eventually stopped fighting at all
@kingjamestres
@kingjamestres Жыл бұрын
The irony of saying you're going isolationist for roleplay as ODA
@KArchine
@KArchine Жыл бұрын
Looked for this comment. Nobunaga would feel insulted!
@JohnPGarrett
@JohnPGarrett Жыл бұрын
My Min-Maxing Brain literally sceeamed when I saw you *not* full annex Ashikaga. Forming Japan isn't the important thing, no, the important thing is that if you form Japan when no other Daiymos exist, you get 100 of each mana type, greatly helping post Battle-Royale Japan.
@manaintolerantmage
@manaintolerantmage Жыл бұрын
Or, and hear me out... Delay the unification by just a tad and declare a few show of strengths. It ends up being way better for you in the long run. If you were "minmaxing" you would know that.
@JohnPGarrett
@JohnPGarrett Жыл бұрын
@@manaintolerantmage Ofc you show strenth, the formable was just the least effort, hence why it stood out to me. Most people don't like delaying their conquest for some mana points.
@manaintolerantmage
@manaintolerantmage Жыл бұрын
@@JohnPGarrett It's not just "some mana points" it helps you stabilize the country earlier. It's not all about speedrunning the tag, it's about having the country able to actually defend itself afterwards. I know some are about "painting the map" but in the specific case of Japan, it's actually better, more efficient, and more minmaxey to hold off on clicking that button.
@arkadiuszrenc1498
@arkadiuszrenc1498 Жыл бұрын
IMO best for oda and any daimio is to get 3 or more show strengths. It gets you a much more stable country and innovativeness in exchange for like 10 years so seems like a great deal
@chekiefloofderg4997
@chekiefloofderg4997 Жыл бұрын
In a place crowded with so many opms, the show strenght is indeed your best ally. Just 2 of them could help you speed run the unification of Japan even better. If you manage to get tech 4 mil before anyone...that's a cakewalk from there.
@PascalSWE
@PascalSWE Жыл бұрын
Many will be on tech 3 when you get five so even if (like in my shimazu game) the emperor declares on you early you can defeat them all by just stackwiping mercilessly. I had something like 10k troops when emperor declares for annexation and I manage to wipe all the daimyo and then win outnumbered 6:1 in the start of the war.
@chekiefloofderg4997
@chekiefloofderg4997 Жыл бұрын
@@PascalSWE I tried a Shimizu run as well! But the emperor never bothered me, despite having 12+ provinces or so, why?
@PascalSWE
@PascalSWE Жыл бұрын
@@chekiefloofderg4997 He might have feared you too much. I played shimazu three times and that only happened once!
@manaintolerantmage
@manaintolerantmage Жыл бұрын
I dont even really think it's an opinion. You are just in the end, much better off for holding off on the "speedrun".
@aidbotwoody939
@aidbotwoody939 Жыл бұрын
Am I crazy but don't coalitions just completely fail to fire in Japan? For some reason the coalition members just don't join if memory serves me
@Old_Harry7
@Old_Harry7 Жыл бұрын
They usually don't.
@antorseax9492
@antorseax9492 Жыл бұрын
Because you usually have truces with everyone; and even if a coalition forms, very few would be in it
@ATemplarIGuess
@ATemplarIGuess Жыл бұрын
I think they all hate each other, since they usually have a cb on each other
@artemisentreri-isaacs3059
@artemisentreri-isaacs3059 Жыл бұрын
You kill everyone before a coalition can fire. It’s really not difficult and should be what is happening. By the time a coalition could form and fire the only people left should all be rivals and hate each other too much to work together. But if it does happen, that just helps you out even more. I have played every single Daimyo, including the ones not existing at 1444. I have never not conquered fast enough for a coalition to matter.
@IronpenWorldbuilding
@IronpenWorldbuilding Жыл бұрын
Similar to irl in the Sengoku Jidai when all the daimyo fought and didn’t work together
@Ryan-tz7sx
@Ryan-tz7sx Жыл бұрын
Laith you should take advantage of breached walls more often. You do get more casualties by assaulting, but since 1.33 you receive way less than before. There used to be an error in calculating casualties which made them way higher, but now assaulting can be useful in blitz warfare.
@coutinihoho7927
@coutinihoho7927 Жыл бұрын
Thought i was the only one that realised that lol
@trex6690
@trex6690 Жыл бұрын
I still just love to play as Useugi. Strong trade from the start. My first properly successful run was a Useugi to Japan run and boy was it fun
@duckstm
@duckstm Жыл бұрын
Just wish they would put oda nobunaga as an heir in an event like isabella of castile.
@yuichiro12
@yuichiro12 Жыл бұрын
There is an event for Oda Nobunaga but it can only happen between 1550 and 1560
@adamforsstrand2048
@adamforsstrand2048 Жыл бұрын
My favourite is Uesugi. That Yearly Army Tradition Decay modifier is underappreciated, because it basically lets you keep high army tradition even when you are not at war. Plus the position they start in is blessed; you are a wall to the north, so you can consolidate the north really fast and with a couple of well-placed forts, you basically become impregnable.
@hashtagrex
@hashtagrex Жыл бұрын
for admirals, maneuver is actually far more important than other pips, as it increases your naval combat width. a 006 admiral is waaaaay better than a 322
@walnzell9328
@walnzell9328 Жыл бұрын
When he took Kyoto, he thought it had raised him to Grand Daimyo. Except no. HE raised Oda to Grand Daimyo. He successfully failed to become Shogun, but then became the Empire because he thought he had become the Shogun.
@antorseax9492
@antorseax9492 Жыл бұрын
22:50 You can have a subject own Kyoto and you don't become Shogun.
@SpiritOfHugs
@SpiritOfHugs Жыл бұрын
Puppet emperor, that's amazing.
@antorseax9492
@antorseax9492 Жыл бұрын
@@SpiritOfHugs Puppet Shogun, actually. So a puppet Emperor under a puppet Shogun, who is legally under the Emperor, who is under the Oda, who is legally under both of them.
@usdibad6292
@usdibad6292 7 ай бұрын
@@antorseax9492 1 year late, but this is literally just the Hojo during the Kamakura Shogunate
@DestinationZanarkand
@DestinationZanarkand Жыл бұрын
Finally. This is the content I've been waiting for.
@Stevonicus
@Stevonicus Жыл бұрын
Just a minor detail I noticed, when Orochonoi conquered Hokkaido all the province names changed to their Japanese names. This doesn't make a lot of sense IMO.
@sakaue
@sakaue Жыл бұрын
guess they just never expected anybody but a japanese country to be the first to annex it
@rinzzler366
@rinzzler366 Жыл бұрын
"You don't need cogs right now buddy" famous last words LOL
@SpiritOfHugs
@SpiritOfHugs Жыл бұрын
"it was a calculated risk but boy am I bad at math"
@eliasschneeberger1337
@eliasschneeberger1337 Жыл бұрын
7:44 Did Laith just say 1000 days is 10 years
@kyrin4558
@kyrin4558 Жыл бұрын
Hyperbole
@justkota.3059
@justkota.3059 Жыл бұрын
Love the sparkly green screen! :D
@KFishproductionII
@KFishproductionII Жыл бұрын
You must try nahuatl japan. Oda, Shimazu, or Uesegi ideas go insane. Not only do you get all the army bonuses, you get -war exhaustion and 1 colonist
@becthegamer4324
@becthegamer4324 Жыл бұрын
Good video
@MuppetLord1
@MuppetLord1 Жыл бұрын
@razor643
@razor643 Жыл бұрын
Nice video
@reubengreen4279
@reubengreen4279 Жыл бұрын
Favourite Daimyo is Shimuzu. Great military ideas like Oda but a more difficult starting position.
@theshlongdoctor
@theshlongdoctor Жыл бұрын
Pretty nice
@heisenstein6392
@heisenstein6392 Жыл бұрын
Tried as Oda not long ago and managed to unite Japan completely by 1470. Their ideas are AMAZING militarily for sure, but I formed Japan and left it at that because every Japan game goes the same...
@artofthepossible7329
@artofthepossible7329 Жыл бұрын
You can't help geography.
@Antonin1738
@Antonin1738 Жыл бұрын
Laith, for some reason your vids stopped appearing in my feed/recommended, idk why, I subbed a while a go and liked your vids
@cryptrox7639
@cryptrox7639 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see you play Khmer because no one really played them on youtube
@ATemplarIGuess
@ATemplarIGuess Жыл бұрын
Oda shreds and it's great
@dorktriogamer2865
@dorktriogamer2865 Жыл бұрын
Watching laith micromanage the navy instead of using the qol stuff introduced to make the navy easier gives me anxiety
@balkanmontero
@balkanmontero Жыл бұрын
NAH THATS SO WEIRD, I SAW THIS THUMBNAIL EARLIER TODAY AND IT WAS JUST THE NORMAL DUDE NOW LAITHS FACE IS ON IT 😭😭😭😭
@InauguralAgate6
@InauguralAgate6 Жыл бұрын
Finally, blessed Japan content 🙏
@PhoenixFires
@PhoenixFires Жыл бұрын
Watched this whole episode, then I looked at Laith properly and realized he had the Charlie Brown shirt on.
@wraygun1481
@wraygun1481 Жыл бұрын
Love your content! I don't know if this strat is possible, but is it possible for you to do a run where you form the Mughals as the Ming? Perhaps there's a mod that allows you to do this. I'd honestly love to see it :).
@ffreeze9924
@ffreeze9924 Жыл бұрын
that was an ancient eu4 strat, before they added end-game tags, one of which being Ming, which means they cannot form Mughals, or any other nation for that matter except the Roman Empire and HRE
@antorseax9492
@antorseax9492 Жыл бұрын
@@ffreeze9924 Endgame tags are a toggle
@ianmiller8399
@ianmiller8399 Жыл бұрын
Celestial empire government reform probably prevents you from forming Mughals
@lefi_is_here
@lefi_is_here Жыл бұрын
All of the naval modifiers in game can get pretty wild because not enough people care about them for it to get balanced. Like durability is roughly equivalent to discipline and you can get it in larger amounts than discipline. Theres quite a few nations that just have 10% durability in their idea and the emperor of china gets a meritocracy ability which gives 20%. Imagine anything giving 20% discipline. Taking naval ideas is basically like geting offensive and quality at the same time, except with even more combat ability. They give out 20% morale to quite a few nations and theres a policy that just gives you 20% too, as opposed to land morale where 20% is a sacred amount only given to the best of the best.
@calebbowie8520
@calebbowie8520 Жыл бұрын
cool.
@tigrecito48
@tigrecito48 Жыл бұрын
i think i was Oda when i did my japan playthru cos i picked the one with the best military ideas
@elgirl19
@elgirl19 Жыл бұрын
Best daimyo is So, a pirates life for me!
@wrightatwater6867
@wrightatwater6867 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a Catholic Prussia Run? It's a pretty fun run and I didn't see any of the big EU4 KZfaqrs doing this video.
@h0ndesohn708
@h0ndesohn708 Жыл бұрын
You couldve always landed 1k troops on the provinces where his ships retreated after a battle you won
@maras3naraz
@maras3naraz Жыл бұрын
Shimazu is calling
@Whatffifght
@Whatffifght Жыл бұрын
More of Japan please
@commanderstorm8874
@commanderstorm8874 Жыл бұрын
You did play as ashikaga once with a bunch of players as all the dymio
@reesehendricksen269
@reesehendricksen269 Жыл бұрын
A fun note, the Shogun can't order suicide if you don't use the sengoku jidai cb, just make claims. While it is slower, I believe it is worth not losing your amazing leader over it.
@thelight9047
@thelight9047 Жыл бұрын
Laith: "I want to unite Japan not just form them." Ryuku and Kuril Islands: ":("
@ed-b8045
@ed-b8045 Жыл бұрын
I want a part 2 where you become Emporer of china
@clixzygames2946
@clixzygames2946 Жыл бұрын
I only have dlcs up to leviathan and I don’t know what country to play, any suggestions?
@trex6690
@trex6690 Жыл бұрын
Austria is a good pick, The Pope, The Swiss, The Bohemians, The Timurids, etc are all pretty good picks.
@clixzygames2946
@clixzygames2946 Жыл бұрын
@Matt aight, thanks
@clixzygames2946
@clixzygames2946 Жыл бұрын
@@trex6690 thanks
@clownfishautozoophilia5828
@clownfishautozoophilia5828 6 ай бұрын
So is the best daimyo because of being able to be a pirate.
@alejandroloza3802
@alejandroloza3802 Жыл бұрын
What does playing "tall" and "wide" mean? I'm new to the game
@drunkenthoughts6072
@drunkenthoughts6072 Жыл бұрын
Playing tall means to get as much from your land/modifiers as possible, usually meaning you stay small but extremely strong per their size. They are typically focused on modifiers and development, the Merchant republics(Venice) and Prussia are typical example of "tall" nations(Merchant republics can have strong control of trade nodes just by steering, and Prussia can maintain their strong modifiers when they have less land). Main point is that they can be impactful even without controlling a lot of land. Wide is the opposite, conquer simple as, you get power from the land you conquer, even if theyre not the most efficient provinces or inefficient modifiers wise. Russia is our major example of wide, their lands are shit, but they get a lot of said shit land, so those 3 dev provinces still add up. Its usually up to preference in singleplayer(since AIs are pushovers), but in multiplayer or edge cases where you are limited expansion wise, playing tall is usually the most optimal(or only) play. Usually if you have neighbours you can conquer easily, its just easier to conquer more land than playing tall, and wide nations can typically beat a smaller tall nation, but a wide nation usually cant beat multiple tall nations that combined have the same size as the wide nation. Prime example : Get a coalition forming from half of the Holy Roman Empire(HRE). You will find it to be a lot harder than beating France alone, even if the coalition is roughly the same as France size wise. Reason : France might have 40k troops, but imagine each of the 20 one province minors of the HRE each have 4k(since they each have a base income and force limit). Thats still twice the amount of France. Not counting Austria who also typically hop in(who is also tall, since despite being way smaller than france, have the same amount of army as them because they get more force limit and income from being holy roman emperor).
@davidweller483
@davidweller483 Жыл бұрын
Lol. I usually attack Toki first as Oda. It's a pain in the ass, but 9x/10 Toki doesn't get an ally by Dec 11. I just get the free company (which I keep after I win the the first war) then get 6 infantry and then pull the maintenance bar all the way down to like 10%. I'm still hemorhaging money, but as long as RNGsus doesn't hate me, I won't go bankrupt before I win the fort. Afterwards, I delete 3 of the infantry and continue my conquest.
@SpiritOfHugs
@SpiritOfHugs Жыл бұрын
Time to conquer the world with your glorious nippon steel folded a thousand times!
@TheSealDribble
@TheSealDribble Жыл бұрын
Which flag does Laiths shirt look like?
@LLAANN1988
@LLAANN1988 Жыл бұрын
Yo its slightly brown!!!!!! MUSCOVY !!!!!!! he should play muscovy. Shirt clearly looks like the map colour of Muscovy. 100%
@radec5437
@radec5437 Жыл бұрын
Or Melwar I thini
@gabrielaldworth7476
@gabrielaldworth7476 Жыл бұрын
you should play as Ashikaga and go expansionist colonial Japan
@theguyyouhate
@theguyyouhate Жыл бұрын
i'm honestly both suprised and completly non-suprised that laith has never tried ashikaga. i can definetly understand why starting as the overlord is just not his kind of game but at the same time it's still a lot of fun to consolidate japan diplomaticly if you ask me.
@DanjasLP
@DanjasLP Жыл бұрын
Dude clearly hasn't played Siam with their +1 Cavalry Fire
@Steel657
@Steel657 Жыл бұрын
no view but 12 likes
@cyrus6550
@cyrus6550 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Need to watch a certain point in the video for it to count as a view, but you can like as soon as you click on the vid and a lot of people just like automatically.
@ChrisVillagomez
@ChrisVillagomez Жыл бұрын
I've never played in Japan before, what would be the best Daimyo to form Japan with in Ironman?
@scipioafricanus2212
@scipioafricanus2212 Жыл бұрын
Best ideas - Oda Easiest start - Usuegi
@garabic8688
@garabic8688 Жыл бұрын
Hosokawa is also a good option, it’s pretty easy and their ideas aren’t half bad either
@cheeseofglass
@cheeseofglass Жыл бұрын
Date's ideas are neat if you like saving mana points. CCR, dev cost, idea cost, and tech cost. One of the worst starts, though.
@BigDelta5403
@BigDelta5403 Жыл бұрын
Shimazu is a nice one imo
@thatponybro6940
@thatponybro6940 Жыл бұрын
seeing Laith play in Japan in EU4 kinda makes me wish he'd play Shogun 2
@amhattami
@amhattami Жыл бұрын
that'd be yarimazing
@thatponybro6940
@thatponybro6940 Жыл бұрын
@@amhattami might end being a shamefurl dispray
@matheusGMN
@matheusGMN Жыл бұрын
Ahhh Japan... the HRE of the East!
@SpiritOfHugs
@SpiritOfHugs Жыл бұрын
It's the reverse HRE, a tiny place where everyone is attacking everyone instead of a huge place where you poke your neighbor and everyone decides to kill you.
@gilgameschvonuruk4982
@gilgameschvonuruk4982 Жыл бұрын
I attempted wc as oda. I became shogun, conquered Manchuria, Indonesia, Korea, part of China and a few colonial Nations. Then I stopped having time and pdx sent an update.
@walnzell9328
@walnzell9328 Жыл бұрын
I don't like how Ryukyu is considered Kyushuan. They have closer ties to the Ainu of Hokkaido than the Yamato Japanese peoples. They also suffered cultural genocide at the hands of the Japanese Empire. The Empire would've preferred if they were "Kyushuan."
@Matty__niice
@Matty__niice Жыл бұрын
Japan is the only place I really enjoy playing other than Europe.
@solidspiderznake8100
@solidspiderznake8100 Жыл бұрын
I played Oda and took over korea, north China and snaked my way west until I reached ottomans and Russia. I allied Ottomans and went to siege Moscow.
@mako8040
@mako8040 Жыл бұрын
Just the fact that laith started the vid the 11th of december, shows how many times he had to restart before this.
@elias9259
@elias9259 Жыл бұрын
First time been in the first one thousand of these videos before (don’t know why I felt it was necessary to say that but my comments here now)
@enragedshark2480
@enragedshark2480 Жыл бұрын
Pirate daimyo is best daimyo.
@jamesrivettcarnac
@jamesrivettcarnac Жыл бұрын
Sengoku coalitions don't fire
@jaydensouth4502
@jaydensouth4502 Жыл бұрын
LAITH PLS PLAY TOTAL WAR SHOGUN 2
@delphidelion
@delphidelion Жыл бұрын
Total war, eu4
@anne-katriengeerts2303
@anne-katriengeerts2303 Жыл бұрын
I have a challenge I'd love to see: truly prevent the Europeans from colonizing. You can start as France, England, Spain, Portugal (whoever you want) and stop the other colonial powers from ever sending a colonists to the New World.
@lyonard9226
@lyonard9226 Жыл бұрын
Portugal should be the easiest to do that.
@anne-katriengeerts2303
@anne-katriengeerts2303 Жыл бұрын
@@lyonard9226 yes and no, because Portugal gives colonizing bonuses which would be wasted on you, because the point of this challenge is to not even colonize yourself, so you rapidly need to conquer all coastlines in Western Europe so no one can send a colonist. To make it more doable the challenge could allow burning settlements so if you're running out of time you can attack and destroy new colonies. The interesting part of this challenge is the fact that colonialism won't be spawning in Europe and it'd be spawning much later in the game, which changes the dynamics in the whole World.
@jorgovan-ni9kz
@jorgovan-ni9kz Жыл бұрын
merge ur troops
@saintbread5080
@saintbread5080 Жыл бұрын
Bollocks
@Kore_Invalid
@Kore_Invalid Жыл бұрын
ive never seen anyone take this long to unite japan and on normal diff 😂
@ToothpikcOriginal
@ToothpikcOriginal Жыл бұрын
Nah bruh, Galicia Volhynia has the best troops in EU4
@KingofDrama1
@KingofDrama1 Жыл бұрын
Oda is not as good as shimazu , oda doesn’t have the 5 percent discipline
@torgomaghanyan7633
@torgomaghanyan7633 Жыл бұрын
You shoul do 2 wars against shogun, in first you “lose” and give him some trash prov like sachalin or Tailand, and in second grab from him last strongholds in japan, But guarantee him afterwards so no one attaks him, because if his gone you are automatically become shogun.
@jose13neo
@jose13neo Жыл бұрын
You automatically become the shogun if you take Kyoto iirc
@MuppetLord1
@MuppetLord1 Жыл бұрын
Japanese ideas are not better than Oda, both Oda and Shimazu has way better ideas than Japan. :)
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