Great idea!

Same here. It’d be fun to see that. Planning on using my Argos in direct mode.

Yes, one or more Fellini moves are very easily done on the Argos and I have found no negative impacts to shot quality

About 5 minutes after turning on.

That's a specific feature to this machine. We have a bleed valve designed into the piston. On all levers, when you move the piston up (by moving the lever arm), the grouphead is filled with air until water comes rushing in. Some air escapes through the coffee below but there's always a pocket of trapped air. This machine allows most of that air to bleed out to take full advantage of the spring force.

Yes, anyone can figure it out but it can take technique if you have very specific ratios that you like to pull. Normally you'll see 1:2 but you can Fellini and get 1:3

@@odysseyespresso I do 1:2 95% of the time so that’s great. I’ll have to look up the Fellini. I’ve seen it done but I’ve wondered how it would affect the shot

​@@classicrockonly everyone I've spoken to reports no impact on flavor or shot quality.

@@odysseyespresso sweet! Tempting. I’m adding this back to my list. I think the spring lever would not be much more complicated than a semi auto

My personal machine is a right hand steam wand. I went into this having never used any other steam wand and I prefer the rhs orientation. If you don't have a preference from machines you'd be fine learning on either side. Maybe keep in mind where you plan on putting the machine and whether or not you have more space to steam on the right or the left.

Someone in a forum mentioned that they regret getting left side steam wand as it gets in the way when they lock the portafilter.

Yes, an installation video for those parts is here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m92KqKaLqJm3g6s.htmlsi=Jw2zqL9grUq6vUZ_

@@odysseyespresso thanks, anyway you guys could provide me the STL for the 3d printed part you used to install the house shaped washer?

@@jmangus83 yes, I'll send this over via email this evening. Need to dig up the file

@@odysseyespresso thanks

The spring design is constrained by material, wire diameter, dimensions of the machine, lifecycle, etc. Small home levers don't have 9+ bar springs because they just don't fit

Unfortunately this machine would not perform well for that use case.

I've used both tap water and RO and both seem to be fine

I do use a Brita carafe with roughly 1.5 liter to filter water for my ECM Classika machine. So far it does the job

Unfortunately, no.

4-5 double shots

It's not actively heated. The boiler adjusts its temperature based on the brew temperature and GH temperature

That's the temperature of the metal not the water. It's all integrated into the PID control

Ok, it is passively heated through the water I guess but you don’t want the water to be hotter in order to compensate for a cool GH and portafilter because the water goes straight down on the coffee in the first place or am I missing something here?

​​@@ph1670each machine is tested and fine tuned with a Scace device and thermometer to simulate and measure where the bed of coffee will be. All dipper (no pump) lever machines require the water in the boiler to be much hotter than brew temperature in order to generate the boiler pressure required to push the water up to the group. The technology is nothing new, we just make it more thermally stable

Which part seems complicated? Turn on machine, wait until the green light turns on, then pull a lever down seems pretty standard as far as lever machines go. Any comparable machine requires "temperature surfing" to achieve desired results with no knowledge of what the actual shot temperature is at.

Don't press too hard steam might come out of the top, don't hold in a normal way its going to slide across the table. Look it's gorgeous, but nothing about this seems intuitive to the average person. The Flair products are pick up and use and easy to understand. This has WAY more going on while pretending its as simple. It doesn't even come with the pressure gauge which means you just guess? @@odysseyespresso

@@FusePB it has a boiler for steaming and built in PID control so very different from a Flair while also being more accurate. You should be comparing this to other boiler machines like the Cremina or LaPavoni all of which have their own quirks. With the spring configuration, a pressure gauge is not required. Pull the lever and the spring does the extraction which is more repeatable than pulling without a spring like on a Flair or other direct lever. This is not a machine for everyone. It's a competitively priced boiler lever machine with some unique technology. Sounds like it may not be a good machine for you which is completely fine! That's why other options exist with their own trade offs.