This is a video to show the general recommended workflow when pulling back to back shots with milk steaming. I try to explain some tips and tricks to have the best experience while using your Argos. www.odysseyespresso.com
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@vinct70235 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing. The company is now starting their 3rd batch of pre-order to be delivered in Q1 2025. Because it ship from US, this is roughly 20% of VAT to be added to price for a total of 1350$ + 60$ shipping... That's why I will get a Cafelat barista for 500$ as I never do anything with steam, only medium/dark espresso... Still Argos is definitively a great option before jumping to even more expensive lever machines (CT2 : Two thousands $)
@danielshawn837057 ай бұрын
Great video, Ross - thanks! If you ever get a free moment to film your workflow (and tips and tricks) with the Argos in direct mode, I’d love to see it. I’m order no. 764; after I get my machine, I’m tentatively planning on using it mostly in direct mode. Thanks again Ross!
@odysseyespresso7 ай бұрын
Great idea!
@caffeinated_slacker7 ай бұрын
Same here. It’d be fun to see that. Planning on using my Argos in direct mode.
@ende4217 ай бұрын
I'm so looking forward to the Argos.
@tesilab9943 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see a future iteration with a better--and possibly wider drip tray.
@reiniermensink87067 ай бұрын
Ross, thank you!
@davidrogala75977 ай бұрын
nice flow
@ccuellar62127 ай бұрын
Spectacular.
@ivoeller5 ай бұрын
Is it possible to do one or two more so called Fellini moves/pulls in order to get a larger cup of coffee or lungo? Or what would you recommend to someone who would like to enjoy a drink a little longer than it would take to drink the traditional espresso?
@odysseyespresso5 ай бұрын
Yes, one or more Fellini moves are very easily done on the Argos and I have found no negative impacts to shot quality
@MichaelZuskin7 ай бұрын
What is the heat up time? O mean, after how many minutes the machine is ready for shot from the viewpoint of the group head temperature?
@odysseyespresso7 ай бұрын
About 5 minutes after turning on.
@nileshjagnik6 ай бұрын
I am thinking of upgrading to the Argos from my beginner semi-automatic machine. One thing I didn't understand from watching this and several other videos on this channel is - what do you mean when you say "let it bleed" or "auto-bleed"? Are there any guides you recommend for beginners to lever machines?
@odysseyespresso6 ай бұрын
That's a specific feature to this machine. We have a bleed valve designed into the piston. On all levers, when you move the piston up (by moving the lever arm), the grouphead is filled with air until water comes rushing in. Some air escapes through the coffee below but there's always a pocket of trapped air. This machine allows most of that air to bleed out to take full advantage of the spring force.
@classicrockonly6 ай бұрын
My only exposure to the espresso world has been with the Flair. I’ve been eyeballing this machine for years. My wife has been liking espresso now, think the spring lever would be something a non-coffee head could figure out so everyone in my house is happy? lol. How are light roasts? Can you do 3:1 ratios?
@odysseyespresso6 ай бұрын
Yes, anyone can figure it out but it can take technique if you have very specific ratios that you like to pull. Normally you'll see 1:2 but you can Fellini and get 1:3
@classicrockonly6 ай бұрын
@@odysseyespresso I do 1:2 95% of the time so that’s great. I’ll have to look up the Fellini. I’ve seen it done but I’ve wondered how it would affect the shot
@odysseyespresso6 ай бұрын
@@classicrockonly everyone I've spoken to reports no impact on flavor or shot quality.
@classicrockonly6 ай бұрын
@@odysseyespresso sweet! Tempting. I’m adding this back to my list. I think the spring lever would not be much more complicated than a semi auto
@MadScientist73 ай бұрын
I’m guessing Ross that you are right handed but on your own personal machine, do you have your steam wand on left side. This will be my first espresso machine if I go through with it but I can’t figure out for the life of me which side would work best for me
@odysseyespresso3 ай бұрын
My personal machine is a right hand steam wand. I went into this having never used any other steam wand and I prefer the rhs orientation. If you don't have a preference from machines you'd be fine learning on either side. Maybe keep in mind where you plan on putting the machine and whether or not you have more space to steam on the right or the left.
@dreyhna17233 ай бұрын
Someone in a forum mentioned that they regret getting left side steam wand as it gets in the way when they lock the portafilter.
@jmangus837 ай бұрын
Ross. Seen the video about the restrictor bleed valve, so I'll get that done on my machine, #5, whenever it arrives. I also received the upgraded steam wand parts awhile back, but never got around to installing them yet. Figured I might as well knock both out at the same time. Do you have a video explaining the installation of those steam wand parts? Thanks
@odysseyespresso7 ай бұрын
Yes, an installation video for those parts is here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m92KqKaLqJm3g6s.htmlsi=Jw2zqL9grUq6vUZ_
@jmangus837 ай бұрын
@@odysseyespresso thanks, anyway you guys could provide me the STL for the 3d printed part you used to install the house shaped washer?
@odysseyespresso7 ай бұрын
@@jmangus83 yes, I'll send this over via email this evening. Need to dig up the file
@jmangus837 ай бұрын
@@odysseyespresso thanks
@DarkKnight-yc8nw6 ай бұрын
Thank you. Why is the spring 8bar instead of 9bar?
@odysseyespresso6 ай бұрын
The spring design is constrained by material, wire diameter, dimensions of the machine, lifecycle, etc. Small home levers don't have 9+ bar springs because they just don't fit
@elfraime995 ай бұрын
It can survive for pop up coffee shop? 100 shots per day
@odysseyespresso5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately this machine would not perform well for that use case.
@toddalvandi7 ай бұрын
Ross, would RO water be safe to use with your machine or do you recommend using water that has been re-mineralized?
@odysseyespresso7 ай бұрын
I've used both tap water and RO and both seem to be fine
@vinct70235 күн бұрын
I do use a Brita carafe with roughly 1.5 liter to filter water for my ECM Classika machine. So far it does the job
@jeerawatu46516 ай бұрын
Will you customize machine be heated by gas?
@odysseyespresso6 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, no.
@dirtyolbum965 ай бұрын
How many shots can you do on a full tank of water?
@odysseyespresso5 ай бұрын
4-5 double shots
@ph16707 ай бұрын
grouphead at 43C? how come so low?
@sonorguy17 ай бұрын
It's not actively heated. The boiler adjusts its temperature based on the brew temperature and GH temperature
@odysseyespresso7 ай бұрын
That's the temperature of the metal not the water. It's all integrated into the PID control
@ph16707 ай бұрын
Ok, it is passively heated through the water I guess but you don’t want the water to be hotter in order to compensate for a cool GH and portafilter because the water goes straight down on the coffee in the first place or am I missing something here?
@odysseyespresso7 ай бұрын
@@ph1670each machine is tested and fine tuned with a Scace device and thermometer to simulate and measure where the bed of coffee will be. All dipper (no pump) lever machines require the water in the boiler to be much hotter than brew temperature in order to generate the boiler pressure required to push the water up to the group. The technology is nothing new, we just make it more thermally stable
@PCRoss2469Ай бұрын
You need a taller bench
@FusePB7 ай бұрын
Why is this so complicated? Aren't you trying to sell to an average espresso enjoyer too?
@odysseyespresso7 ай бұрын
Which part seems complicated? Turn on machine, wait until the green light turns on, then pull a lever down seems pretty standard as far as lever machines go. Any comparable machine requires "temperature surfing" to achieve desired results with no knowledge of what the actual shot temperature is at.
@FusePB7 ай бұрын
Don't press too hard steam might come out of the top, don't hold in a normal way its going to slide across the table. Look it's gorgeous, but nothing about this seems intuitive to the average person. The Flair products are pick up and use and easy to understand. This has WAY more going on while pretending its as simple. It doesn't even come with the pressure gauge which means you just guess? @@odysseyespresso
@odysseyespresso7 ай бұрын
@@FusePB it has a boiler for steaming and built in PID control so very different from a Flair while also being more accurate. You should be comparing this to other boiler machines like the Cremina or LaPavoni all of which have their own quirks. With the spring configuration, a pressure gauge is not required. Pull the lever and the spring does the extraction which is more repeatable than pulling without a spring like on a Flair or other direct lever. This is not a machine for everyone. It's a competitively priced boiler lever machine with some unique technology. Sounds like it may not be a good machine for you which is completely fine! That's why other options exist with their own trade offs.