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OFF: A Retrospective (Feat.

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Sagan Hawkes

Sagan Hawkes

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@SaganHawkes
@SaganHawkes Жыл бұрын
UPDATE: The "Baseball" song used in this video is finally out on Spotify! Written and recorded by my brother (so it's on his spotify account, not mine): open.spotify.com/track/0hj3YHuD1XMAnf2FTk5K7D?si=cba82c78cbad4e4b Hey everyone, long time no see! Promise it won't be as long a wait until the next one. If you're looking for more cool stuff, go check out NezumiVA's channel, and/or the album I released this past Halloween! www.youtube.com/@NezumiVA open.spotify.com/album/44MSGGy3hAyvf97UyXY9wE?si=9y7aLLTiR4mpMVIpQbWk8Q I have also seen that people really liked the opening song. I'll see if we can get it up to stream somewhere as well!
@commanderflame4039
@commanderflame4039 Жыл бұрын
whats the name of the song? im trying to find it through the lyics but nothing sounds like it.
@youareburger5254
@youareburger5254 Жыл бұрын
the opening song is so good its insane
@CardsOfFate
@CardsOfFate Жыл бұрын
Yessss Sagan! That open song slaps.
@AHHHHHHPEOPLE
@AHHHHHHPEOPLE Жыл бұрын
the opening song is amazing!
@Partypoopersgroup
@Partypoopersgroup Жыл бұрын
Just try not to get hacked again, my man. The next thing I see from you better not be a Telsa Official stream about Crypto. :P
@miningapple1058
@miningapple1058 Жыл бұрын
I know that he said that he isn’t a big rpg guy but the moment he said the closest thing he could relate the timer to was a fnaf game, when it’s just the final fantasy ATB system, had part of my soul leave my body.
@FrogmaskMusic
@FrogmaskMusic Жыл бұрын
that felt like a wild bait and switch
@sasaki999pro
@sasaki999pro Жыл бұрын
I literally had to double check as I was exclusively listening to this video as audio on my walk and I totally missed that part AAAW C'MON MAN SAGAN NOOOOOOO _Noooooooo........._ Maybe, maybe he knows what its actually called and is just low balling his expectations for his general audience
@ImInForAWuppin
@ImInForAWuppin Жыл бұрын
I was kind of okay with that one since he mentions that it's specifically in relation to his audience, but then he called the SNES controller a PS1 controller... pain.
@braydentobin5150
@braydentobin5150 Жыл бұрын
You would think everyone knows what Final Fantasy is at this point
@moyai7699
@moyai7699 Жыл бұрын
Comments about someones soul leaving are always making me laugh, thanks
@BlueKeyAnimations
@BlueKeyAnimations Жыл бұрын
"He has your eyes. They're filled with fear." Are two absurdly powerful sentences packed with so much meaning.
@Jamjamsart
@Jamjamsart Жыл бұрын
i love this line so much. i was so pissed when i played the translation and they changed it from "they're filled with fear" to like..... "however, his show fear." like???? WHY??? that wasn't necessary at ALL to change
@CreepGnome
@CreepGnome Жыл бұрын
@@Jamjamsart It's more accurate to the original French line, which pretty explicitly framed it as a contrast.
@chocomelo454
@chocomelo454 10 ай бұрын
​@@CreepGnomeoh oh thats sadder
@plugshirt1762
@plugshirt1762 10 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@Jamjamsartbruh why lol that line is far better. Being told his son has his eyes only to respond that they show fear comes off as far more uncaring and ruthless. The other line comes off as him just stating that he sees he is scared while this one shows that the difference between them is that he’s scared of him
@birdup1_2
@birdup1_2 10 ай бұрын
@@plugshirt1762or, it could be seen as by ‘he has your eyes’, ‘fear’ being the response could imply the batter is afraid. Very, very afraid.
@THEFRISKIESTDINGO
@THEFRISKIESTDINGO Жыл бұрын
Batter has some banger lines. “Don’t do that” makes me laugh every time.
@peachfang
@peachfang Жыл бұрын
the judge: MY BROTHER IS FUCKING DEAD batter: whatever
@josecaro2761
@josecaro2761 Жыл бұрын
​@@peachfang batter: lol. Lmao even
@valodia1
@valodia1 Жыл бұрын
@@peachfang batter: damn bro that's crazy but who asked
@peachfang
@peachfang Жыл бұрын
@@valodia1 "acknowledged."
@damien6455
@damien6455 Жыл бұрын
type of guy to respond to everything with "k"
@Shiropluff
@Shiropluff Жыл бұрын
37:00 Mortis Ghost did a livestream of OFF a few years back, and one delightful thing he shared was that the Judge's dialogue here is straight up just a reference to the song We Will Become Silhouettes by The Postal Service. "I'm screaming at the top of my lungs / pretending the echoes belong to someone / someone I used to know." I think the older fan translation matched the lyrics even closer.
@SoicAngellis
@SoicAngellis Жыл бұрын
Man, I feel so sorry for the Judge, losing his brother..
@tristynlinde
@tristynlinde Жыл бұрын
I literally cry about this part every time. Such a gut punch to hear him and then have him say those lines
@abraham3673
@abraham3673 9 ай бұрын
really? the postal service is one of my favorite bands ever, that’s so awesome
@safabekr
@safabekr Жыл бұрын
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this already, but correction about the “trial and error” door maze puzzle on the way to Dedan-the solution is that the music gets louder the closer you get to the correct door!
@nicholasricci8342
@nicholasricci8342 Жыл бұрын
just like the lost woods in zelda (and plenty of other games as well)
@roxyinabox
@roxyinabox Жыл бұрын
i was thinking about that, glad i wasnt the only one who noticed
@jackhazardous4008
@jackhazardous4008 Жыл бұрын
Audio cues tend to be missed when your volume is low
@Shinobin333
@Shinobin333 Жыл бұрын
From a deaf person's PoV this is trial and error
@davi0121
@davi0121 Жыл бұрын
666 likes, based
@contentmachineabstractions3136
@contentmachineabstractions3136 Жыл бұрын
I always thought it was a parallel for chemotherapy, and it's scorched earth approach to purifying and cleansing the body, killing everything in an attempt to root out the cancer (Spectres, burnt elsen could also be seen as corrupted cells from the cancer growth), and the zones and stuff were just constructs of a creatively driven child personifying his own treatment which even though it means well, ends up killing him
@sand__witch
@sand__witch Жыл бұрын
Just putting it out there: in the comic Hugo's father gives him, the boxer is swarmed by an army of clones. The imagery of endless replication feels a LOT like a metaphor for cancer. Maybe the Batter feels annoyed by the comic partially because it puts the baseball player in the role of the tumor, while he is so unwaveringly dedicated to the role of chemotherapy. This might also be why the Secretaries look so much, to me at least, like misshapen boxers; they're the thing that comes into the zone after the disease has been purged from it and kills all that is still healthy in there. So they're the comic book boxer's noble intentions twisted and distorted, the medicine's horrible side effects becoming clear. The Batter sees them as demonic, so blinded by his conviction that he fails to understand they're the very same thing as him. Boxer opposes batter, but which one is the disease and which one is the treatment? ...I have never played this game. Hell, I only found out the full plot from this video. If anything of this is horribly wrong, feel free to correct me.
@Mate_Antal_Zoltan
@Mate_Antal_Zoltan Жыл бұрын
@@sand__witch bro, the game is free, why did you watch this before playing it?
@TheShut1
@TheShut1 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I wanted to make same comment, cause I also saw this parallel between themes of the game and cancer treatment (though I have small bias because it is something that is close from me, something from my real life). It might be just a one theme that mixed with others, but I do believe it has lots of ground and merits.
@lemonpotioncastle
@lemonpotioncastle Жыл бұрын
@@Mate_Antal_Zoltan you don't have to play a game before watching videos about it
@rappingbeaniedog347
@rappingbeaniedog347 Жыл бұрын
that one's always been a super popular theory and its the one I'd take as most logical understanding if it's not meant to be taken as literal, which is what I've always done. It's still depressing that way.
@MinecraftLovesSteve
@MinecraftLovesSteve Жыл бұрын
I think you're dead on about the Queen and the Batter being manifestations of Hugo's parents. The fact that, despite The Batter seemingly being created at the start of the game, the Queen talks as if she always knew him. Even the "he has your eyes".
@jessienilan2773
@jessienilan2773 Жыл бұрын
100% how I see it. There is just too much that shows for it to be otherwise. They're manifestations recently made, but the history and emotions are strong.
@yickel
@yickel Жыл бұрын
When I played OFF as a teen, I'd always assumed the "Burnt" had something to do with consuming sugar, like a side effect or something. After all, the sugar comes from *burning* corpses, and the majority of "Burnt" you fight are in the sugar factory. I have no idea how well this interpretation actually holds up, though.
@NebulousArray
@NebulousArray Жыл бұрын
you are what you eat kinda deal?
@tivaspotato
@tivaspotato Жыл бұрын
if you look up videos on how sugar reacts with sulphuric acid it looks exactly like how the elsen turn into burnts. the previously white sugar turned into something like a black tree trunk-like thing-- it's a super neat detail that mortis ghost paid attention to
@Kyumifun
@Kyumifun Жыл бұрын
That reminds me of that religious quote. "From dust you were risen and to dust you shall turn" or something along those lines
@turntechgodhead1975
@turntechgodhead1975 Жыл бұрын
@@Kyumifun Genesis 3:19 'for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.'
@gabrote42
@gabrote42 Жыл бұрын
We see that happening pretty close to the "I'm The Batter and came through the chimney" scene, IIRC
@dangerouscolors
@dangerouscolors Жыл бұрын
a note on the sketchy style of the sprites: this happened because all the sprites were originally drawn on paper! they were then downscaled and outlined with hard pixels to keep in line with the whole pixel art style. scans of the original sketches are widely available online and its great to see them in their full glory. mortis ghosts hatching style really stands out in hd. additionally all the art of zacharie with wings and a sword also comes from concept art mortis ghost made
@chaptap8376
@chaptap8376 8 ай бұрын
the in-game sprites seemed so blurry to me that i had the wrong impression of several characters for ages. like thinking zach was a frog-faced man and not wearing a mask.
@touchgrass7129
@touchgrass7129 Жыл бұрын
How different indie game characters deal with threats Undertale: talk to them Omori: the power of friendship OFF: you have lost your kneecap privileges
@AlaKasham
@AlaKasham 8 ай бұрын
Ultrakill:RICOSHOT FISTFULL OF DOLLARS PARRY DISRESPECT
@prometheus9732
@prometheus9732 8 ай бұрын
MGRR: see that giant mech over there? Now suplex it into the air and cut it in half.
@smitefulaxe1344
@smitefulaxe1344 6 ай бұрын
@@prometheus9732 MGRR is not an Indie game lmao.
@capiuknowme7181
@capiuknowme7181 4 ай бұрын
Project moon: workplace violence
@parkslankford6114
@parkslankford6114 4 ай бұрын
Faith: hey see that demon over there? Now *exorcise it*
@zodismegalame
@zodismegalame Жыл бұрын
the anthony fantano parody segment is so insanely well done its crazy. you somehow got all the mannerisms and line deliveries from melon perfectly. major kudos.
@TheTimurQ
@TheTimurQ Жыл бұрын
I would give this segment a strong 9 to a 10. tran…
@bananapuddingyum9690
@bananapuddingyum9690 Жыл бұрын
@@TheTimurQ SITION
@maryfreegirl2029
@maryfreegirl2029 Жыл бұрын
i loved that part lol
@stanharold7641
@stanharold7641 Жыл бұрын
@@bananapuddingyum9690 did you give this album a listen?
@IDontReallyWantAYoutubeHandle
@IDontReallyWantAYoutubeHandle Жыл бұрын
Oh my god. I have prosopagnosia (face blindness) and didn't even realise it was just him again. I only thought "huh, Fantano has a lot more hair in this clip, must be an old video." and shrugged it off. Damnit
@Ranixo286
@Ranixo286 Жыл бұрын
Pablo's sad meows...awh And while Batter isn't Hugo's father, I think he's definitley connected. He may just be a figure that reminds Hugo of his father with the baseball theme, or represents his (and possibly his mom's as well) resentment towards a father who is out of the picture now- may that be from personal choice or his death that Hugo didn't understand.
@elliot_clover
@elliot_clover Жыл бұрын
I've never played this game before and so didn't know the plot before watching this vid. seeing the part with pablo grieving legit made me start crying
@wanbon
@wanbon Жыл бұрын
As someone who played OFF before the....homestuckening, I will say that there was a fan base, but it was definitely more broad and encompassed Yume Nikki, Space Funeral, Ib and the like. It was just generally accepted if you liked one, you'd like the others and it was fairly common to see the main characters from each game in art together. After the homestuckening, it seemed like that sort of close knit, quiet fandom got shot out the airlock. There was more fan content, but it was all OFF all the time, and it made me want to interact with it less due to my own personal fallout with Homestuck at the time. I am glad so many people appreciated OFF, but I feel bad for all the other indie horror titles left behind. Also re: Zachary with wings - I thought there were concept art of Zachary with wings back when Mortis was kicking around the idea of him as a protag? Or maybe that's a mush of fandom goo, but I do remember there were sketches in an official capacity. And with that kinda encouragement, I'm not surprised it was a huge hit. I remember the Zach fixation being A Thing.
@Horsehater500
@Horsehater500 Жыл бұрын
The homestuckening is a funny way to word it but like, also the best word for that.
@bashfulwolfo6499
@bashfulwolfo6499 Жыл бұрын
Tbh, I never even knew there was a Homestuckening before watching the vid, that was the biggest surprise to me lmao. I believe though I got into OFF because of Ib, as it was one of the first indie RPG games I ever played.
@caramel9154
@caramel9154 Жыл бұрын
Oh, about the Zachary wings, I'm pretty sure there was a video of a [fake] boss fight of Zachary with wings but also a sword.
@Olivia-ee5nq
@Olivia-ee5nq Жыл бұрын
I got into OFF because of TF2
@moosesues8887
@moosesues8887 Жыл бұрын
Nice pfp
@kudoh4165
@kudoh4165 Жыл бұрын
This game definetly deserves a fandom revival!! Thank you so much for covering this game!
@MasacoMike
@MasacoMike Жыл бұрын
Dude the fandom revives and dies every other week, and it's apparently staying this way
@robertwyatt3912
@robertwyatt3912 Жыл бұрын
@@MasacoMike the fandom has been purified
@WeebGunnerPURIFIED
@WeebGunnerPURIFIED Жыл бұрын
ah ah ah! the OFF fandom is like a ghost!
@kalebjacobs7505
@kalebjacobs7505 Жыл бұрын
There's actually an OFF animated series on KZfaq, it's really good you should check it out
@pearlscake
@pearlscake Жыл бұрын
1:12:46 actually, zacharie was planned to be a boss for the game and mortis ghost's concept art for his boss fight is where the fan concept of him wielding wings and a sword comes from! i think its 99% likely that zacharie was intended to be the toad king's slayer
@dummyyogurt5375
@dummyyogurt5375 2 ай бұрын
the book talks about a merchant slaying the king in french, so yeah ! zachary is the toad king's slayer
@nightmare2750
@nightmare2750 Жыл бұрын
This is more of a headcanon than a theory, I think, but I like to think that Zachary was Sugars puppeteer, he fell in love with the world so much that he somehow found a way into it.
@peachfang
@peachfang Жыл бұрын
it would explain the misery he'd feel after her death. if he entered the world for her, only to lose her, thats a justification for contempt if ever ive seen one
@taylorwright7428
@taylorwright7428 Жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder why he's so apathetic at Batter destroying the world. Then again, as long as you don't do the secret battle, Sugar would still be in Zone 0, and presumably alive, since that place doesn't seem to need to be 'purified', so he'd at least have one companion, and maybe could rebuild some things with her? But that depends on if *all* the zones died when The Batter flips the off switch at the end. Zone 0's kinda been left alone since the beginning, so IDK. The special ending also exists, though, so I guess everything depends on what timeline they're in.
@brenkrasmer
@brenkrasmer Жыл бұрын
"Maybe it's better this way". I like the theory and the line hits a bit differently to me now. Zacharie fell in love with a Sugar that had his projection wrapped around it. Her words her own but carrying out his acts and will. But, when he entered, it was different. She wasn't acting the way he expected (the same way he'd controlled her to) and didn't have the same power a character gets when made PC over an NPC. He had hope to rekindle something. To bring back the spark he felt. But in a world, with you and the Batter in it, doomed to end. Would you rather hang on to hope things may change until the end, or just let it go.
@eccentric_creampuff4983
@eccentric_creampuff4983 Жыл бұрын
@@peachfang love this
@_Manjuu_
@_Manjuu_ Жыл бұрын
The RPGmaker industry is PACKED with gems: -Hello Charlotte -ENDROLL -OMORI -Wadanohara And The Great Blue Sea -Yume Nikki -.flow -Midnight Train -OFF -OneShot -LiSA -Ao Oni -Ara Fell -Pocket Mirror -Mad Father -Angels of Death And so, SO many more. Thank you for peeking into RPGmaker. It's legit a goldmine of good content 0v0
@tenaciousquid
@tenaciousquid Жыл бұрын
>omori blud think they on the team
@BlightfulProductions
@BlightfulProductions Жыл бұрын
witches house was also neat
@blackcatfan3
@blackcatfan3 Жыл бұрын
@@tenaciousquid literally, if theyre gonna add new rpgs they might as well add Undertale too
@EvilSiivagunner7
@EvilSiivagunner7 Жыл бұрын
Hylics?
@critter_core
@critter_core Жыл бұрын
As somebody who desperately wants to make a video game, what’s rpg maker like for game making, if anybody knows?
@protolad2458
@protolad2458 Жыл бұрын
I think I actually appreciate the fact that off gives you no choice in your actions (when compared to undertale). On one hand we see ourselves as the only truly autonomous agents within a game. We are the puppeteer. We are in control of the batter, who is simply a vessel for us to exert ourselves onto the world. But when we are chastised by the judge at the end of game, we use our lack of control as a way to absolve ourselves of responsibility for our actions; placing the blame on what was supposed to be our puppet. While undertale examines the choices we make to experience all the content of the game; off examines the way we set aside our morality in the absence of choice.
@TorrentialStardust
@TorrentialStardust Жыл бұрын
That reminds me of Spec ops: the line. Completely linear game, you do horrible things, and the loading screens continually tell you that if you were a good person, you'd turn the game off.
@BladeTheGabite
@BladeTheGabite Жыл бұрын
@@TorrentialStardust Going by that logic, If you were a good person, you just wouldn't buy the game. You should boycott the company at that point.
@TorrentialStardust
@TorrentialStardust Жыл бұрын
@@BladeTheGabite I mean I guess so
@Bearpigman
@Bearpigman Жыл бұрын
So after playing this game back in 2011, this was my takeaway from it that I don't think I've ever really seen anyone else feel. I always felt like Hugo was a terminally ill child, and the characters of the Batter, the Player and the Judge respectively were the ID, the EGO and the SUPEREGO of Hugo's father, trying to make the impossibly tough choice of taking his child off life support and destroying the world Hugo built up in his mind, which had been slowly being burnt out and eradicated due to his illness. One thing I noticed is that when you put the game on auto, and left the Batter to his own devices, he would never heal even though he had healing options available. He was just hyper focused on his mission at the cost of anything else. The Judge was more emotional and structured in his dialogue, and also showed grief at the death of a family member. To me the final battle was the inner struggle of the player trying to choose between a mercy killing, spawned by a cold and calculated take on what could be done further, or to side with the conventionally morally right choice and let Hugo exist, even if the world was now barren and desolate and painful. A few other takeaways that I haven't quite placed: I always saw Dedan's coat and no-nonsense attitude as traits of a doctor, Enoch as a Candy Striper, and Hugo literally talks about seeing a bird in his window as his friend. The fight with the queen represented the quarreling between Hugo's parents in this tough situation and illustrated their divorce (especially using the initial translation). I dunno, I just wanted to place out some of the theories that had been kicking around in my head for the past decade about this game. Great video
@LunaroseClaire
@LunaroseClaire Ай бұрын
Super fascinating take!
@flagfighter
@flagfighter Жыл бұрын
7:00 Somebody has probably already said this, but it's called "active." If using the menu causes the battle to pause, that's called "wait." At least, that's how the Final Fantasy series has always referred to the classic styles of turn-based battles. The system is called ATB, active time battle. It refers to the gauge each character has to fill up before they can take a turn.
@NezumiVA
@NezumiVA Жыл бұрын
A pleasure to be involved with this video, it came out fantastic! Thanks for having me aboard. 💜
@marrcoke9580
@marrcoke9580 Жыл бұрын
HI NEZUMI
@KittyThaliaX23
@KittyThaliaX23 Жыл бұрын
My girlfriend introduced me to you through your jerma dollhouse video. Love your work, happy to see you working with ppl like Sagan!
@froufroudeluxe
@froufroudeluxe Жыл бұрын
Marcie istg we have so many overlapping interests (it’s Frou from the when we cry pod)
@somerandomgamer8504
@somerandomgamer8504 Жыл бұрын
I found you through Ace Attorney, reminisced about OFF, and lo and behold managed to find you again. Small world!
@Evets_03
@Evets_03 Жыл бұрын
It’s understated just how kind interesting and mind blowing the story is in this game it makes it one of my favorite games.
@mallowalt2240
@mallowalt2240 Жыл бұрын
@@tobeyfox i can't find that no matter where i look, could you point me in the right direction?
@NebulousArray
@NebulousArray Жыл бұрын
especially the alien monkey ending lolololol
@thelegostarwarsf7916
@thelegostarwarsf7916 Жыл бұрын
Ronnie mcnutt
@mooks500
@mooks500 Жыл бұрын
​@@thelegostarwarsf7916 mind blowing
@SantanaBanana47
@SantanaBanana47 Жыл бұрын
​@@tobeyfox what's it about? What makes it great?
@roqlop7947
@roqlop7947 Жыл бұрын
Is nobody going to mention how amazingly the intro is edited and put together along that absolute bop
@mrlampy
@mrlampy Жыл бұрын
do you know the song?
@Garf-the-true-and-evil
@Garf-the-true-and-evil Жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure that’s pepper steak, part of off’s ost
@explodingegg123
@explodingegg123 Жыл бұрын
do you happen to know what the song is in the intro perchance?
@Aresofthevoid
@Aresofthevoid Жыл бұрын
@@Garf-the-true-and-evil i think they're talking about the song in the intro, not peper steak
@Sage-hq9ch
@Sage-hq9ch Жыл бұрын
does anyone know the song in the intro?
@markpetrov9476
@markpetrov9476 Жыл бұрын
OFF is such a gem. One of the few games that truly deserve a revival.
@Nudgarrobot
@Nudgarrobot Жыл бұрын
I never used the Auto function, but I think given the twist in general that it makes a LOT of sense that the auto is overpowered. The game is more fun if you're not using it for certain, but it definitely seems like an intentional design choice that auto is very competent, especially given you're warned about using it at the very beginning because of how it won't hold back
@TanBlaque
@TanBlaque Жыл бұрын
Amazing video! I didn't expect to be in here, but it's an honor to be mentioned. (And yes, it's Tan black 😂) OFF is an absolutely fantastic game and to this day I still find it hard to find another game that will provoke the same feelings and immersion.
@dingus_maximus
@dingus_maximus Жыл бұрын
Anyone at all talking about OFF in the year of our lord 2022 is astonishing. Thank you so much for this. This is one of those games I can't forget about, even after all these years.
@CrysisVN
@CrysisVN Жыл бұрын
here in 2023
@lightrealmrapono
@lightrealmrapono Жыл бұрын
Also here. I have a poster of the "bad batter" hanging in my room.
@loorthedarkelf8353
@loorthedarkelf8353 2 ай бұрын
Same
@stationKTKR
@stationKTKR Жыл бұрын
The individual who translated OFF to English goes by Quinn K. now, and they released 3 RPGMaker games this year! Highly recommend checking them out!
@ShiraCheshire
@ShiraCheshire Жыл бұрын
One thing I feel like a lot of people miss with those number puzzles is that they too are part of the atmosphere. The puzzles in OFF make you write down nonsense phrases, strange words, and most of all numbers. You end up with these weird notes that look like they were written by a crazy person. You're part of the strange, unsettling madness of this world as you navigate it- your own notes prove that. By brute forcing the puzzles you miss out on that. (I noticed you brute forced the flesh maze too. The secret to that puzzle is actually the audio, you're meant to stand at the edge of the doorways and listen for when the music becomes louder.)
@Okayplaguerat
@Okayplaguerat Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad to see a creator talk about off. It's such a fantastic little masterpiece in so many ways and that soundtrack is so nostalgic. Hearing it patches into some strange feeling in my heart. You've brought back some great nostalgia for me dude
@sakurananami4478
@sakurananami4478 Жыл бұрын
I have not played this game, but while you explained the story it sounded a lot to me like a metaphor for a child with cancer’s body and how they’d perceive their illness, and their real life influencing how they perceive it all. Each off switch representing the failure of a organ, etc. If I’m wrong tho that’s totally fine lol, this game looks really cool, and as usual another amazing retrospective! I don’t follow many KZfaq channels, but you can guarantee I’m subscribed to Sagan and Nezumi and will always be there when their videos release!
@TheMasterd333
@TheMasterd333 Жыл бұрын
Using FnaF world as the timer battle system example instead of like, FF or Chrono Trigger made me feel so old.
@jackhazardous4008
@jackhazardous4008 Жыл бұрын
Here i was going "who the fuck played FNAF World" before remembering how i found this channel
@Nobody-zl3kk
@Nobody-zl3kk Жыл бұрын
Don't feel bad, It has more to do with the fact that this dude got here because people watched his fnaf content more than anything... that and the fact that timed battle systems are sort of the "the odd estranged brother" to the turn based system that is so popular, so contemporary examples are far fewer for it.
@plugshirt1762
@plugshirt1762 10 ай бұрын
Bruh he said to relate to his audience not that it was the first thing that came to his head
@LtSprinkulz
@LtSprinkulz Жыл бұрын
I think the more clear connection to be made with OFF's metacommentary about "Yo maybe killing things sucks" is actually _Dark Souls_ of all things, despite there being no evidence that FROM or Miyazaki ever took inspiration from it. Particularly in the first game where on the main path you're mislead through a quest to slay the old gods and rekindle the first flame, except nobody tells you that at the end you must commit suicide via self-immolation to do so, and it's left up to interpretation if that's actually the right thing to do as it only prolongs the existence of the world you left in ruins, a world that was already ruined before you even arrived on the scene. In contrast, the Artorias of the Abyss DLC brings up the consequences of the other ending. Should you chose the Darkwraith ending and let the fire fade, you lead the world into an age of darkness. We see what that does to people in the DLC areas. They sprout horrific growths and return to a primal state. The other choice is to become a Darkwraith as seen in the main game, knights of death whose only purpose is to steal the humanity from other humans. So either way, you're led through a post-apocalyptic world, killing bosses on no other pretense than "Well someone told me to," and either way you kill the SAME bosses. Your only choices in the outcome are at the end, to either blindly prolong this world's current awfulness, or purposefully send it down a literal path to darkness, somewhat similar both endings of OFF. I think these games have a very interesting connection in that way, and even though there's no chance Miyazaki even knew OFF existed during the development of Dark Souls, I think he and Mortis came to very similar conclusions when trying to criticize their respective genres. What makes it so easy for you to just blindly follow orders until the end? Because it's fun? Is this really your idea of fun? Arduous journeys through miserable places _killing_ things? Things that are simply going about their business when you arrive? Of course there's fun to be had with these games, they still want you to play and enjoy them. Abusing your audience is rarely ever successful (the only successful case I can think of is Pathologic, but even then it rewards you for being invested,) but it's still fascinating how similar the approach from these two developers was.
@therealsilvergunner1390
@therealsilvergunner1390 Жыл бұрын
Some obscure information: The one Hugo calls Papa is "Elsen the scientist". The Batter is possibly based on the antagonist of the anime Paranoia Agent.
@SheepUndefined
@SheepUndefined Жыл бұрын
Holy shit, another reason I need to check that show out.
@gillianphillips188
@gillianphillips188 Жыл бұрын
As someone who has been working on the OFF Animation for over a year now, it has been amazing to see just how many talented people have joined the team and been so much help to the process and MAINLY Tanblaque who is one of the most hard working people I have ever met and watching them working and seeing them do a majority of everything themselves is so amazing and they are so talented! They have improved so much and glad they can relax a bit with all the amazing help we got! And I really appreciate you giving them and the OFF Animation a spotlight in your video it means so much to see my friends be appreciated!!! And promise we're working on it and making it really amazing! 🥰
@LunaWitcherArt
@LunaWitcherArt Жыл бұрын
Nezumi said they were 26 and have basically a foot in the grave in regards to fandom and I related to that *deeply* you have no idea. I remember commenting on ManlyBadassHero's video and responding to comments talking about their theories on the plot and what it all meant and symbolized. I particularly liked the parallel that was made with the final room (segmented corridor leading to a larger room) and the human nervous system (everything leading to the spine, that leads to the brain) as well as the idea of the Batter being actually some sort of medicine.
@logans.7932
@logans.7932 Жыл бұрын
I actually really like that. Almost implies that the “meds” that were given to Hugo by his father were the “kills you fast so you don’t have to suffer” kind and not the “make you better” kind
@celestee2264
@celestee2264 Жыл бұрын
I thought something similar. That the Batter is actually a kind of medicine that kills the specters (Hugo's sickness) but at the cost of altering Hugo's mental state to a point he's not himself anymore. It makes more sense what Logan S said though, that the Batter's purpose is to release him from his suffering. I would have loved to be part of the community at that point in time, it sounds like it was great fun
@frogueThief
@frogueThief Жыл бұрын
Omg I had no idea Mainly did a video on OFF, gotta check that out for sure
@LunaWitcherArt
@LunaWitcherArt Жыл бұрын
@@frogueThief Manly has done a video on everything. If it exists, chances are he has recorded a video on it.
@ariannadravis3934
@ariannadravis3934 Жыл бұрын
@@LunaWitcherArt Accurate
@messatine
@messatine Жыл бұрын
People drew Zacharie with wings because of some official Mortis Ghost art. I used to be kinda known on Tumblr for my OFF fanart
@jamesbone7515
@jamesbone7515 Жыл бұрын
Spoiler warning. Man, I remember the first time I went back to a zone I purified, and my first thoughts were "oh my god there are distant screams for help and super strong flesh babies". Still some of the most creepy stuff I've ever witnessed.
@Arsonaught
@Arsonaught Жыл бұрын
Theyre actually speaking in French so that isn't what they're saying. It seems intentional though with how it sounds.
@chocomelo454
@chocomelo454 10 ай бұрын
​@@Arsonaughtapparently one of the lines are actually cries for help. iirc they go "Hey! Help!" and "Hey! Batter!" the ones that are all blended together and kinda remind me of squishy meat iirc are things along the lines of "what gave you the right / you didn't need to do this"
@EmissaryofWind
@EmissaryofWind 8 ай бұрын
@@Arsonaught They're calling for help in french, the two lines I can make out are "hey!" and "au secours" which means "help me"
@Glory2Snowstar
@Glory2Snowstar Жыл бұрын
YES I THINK THE OFF FANDOM MIGHT GET REVIVED BY THIS VIDEO!!!!!!! I adore everything about this world, from the magenta plastic labyrinths to the sketchy monstrosities to the... weirdly cozy feeling of that one void house in Zone 3. The Meaning of His Tears and Avatar Beat are absolute perfection, and all the character designs are sick. Man, I LOVE Mortis Ghost's style, especially how he shades the Burnts. Huge kudos to Vinny Vinesauce for playing this game and exposing me at a young age to a world of sugar corpses and mall whales, as well as to everybody involved with this monumental video! (Seriously the entire OFF fandom thanks you profusely this shall be our beacon of life)
@MysticIceFire
@MysticIceFire Жыл бұрын
implying we were ever dead to begin with
@bandidocavalier
@bandidocavalier Жыл бұрын
@@MysticIceFire girl... im sorry to break it to you but 😬😬😬😬
@luxill0s
@luxill0s Жыл бұрын
The OFF fandom had I think 1 major animatic/animation creator keeping it on life support
@lambybunny7173
@lambybunny7173 Жыл бұрын
@@bandidocavalier Yeaahh sadly it used to be a lot more active in 2019-2020, like not as active as when the game started getting popular, but pretty active. and then 2021 it just. dipped...
@Amygdalum
@Amygdalum Жыл бұрын
We’re back at it again fr fr
@alaskawoolf3737
@alaskawoolf3737 Жыл бұрын
I had kind of a more "literal" interpretation of Off. The Batter goes along all the way saying how you're purifying things, but you're actually just destroying everything and making everything worse, you're not actually purifying anything. So the idea I took from it was: Nothing is ever actually Pure (like, being good enough, fitting into an ideal of perfection). So if a person starts to reject and destroy (attack) everything they don't like (their own life, other people or things, social groups, fixing situations with violence) they're not just not accomplishing anything good, but actively making the world worse for everyone, and being left with nothing. So like, the Batter is trying to force his ideal of the world on everyone else, caring about nothing else and prefering a false nothingness over imperfection. But the imperfect world was better than the pure world. The idea of perfection (purity) was destructive. All the imagery, along with the elements (smoke, plastic, metal, meat, sugar) and how they come to be makes me think of a social commentary on extremist ideas (political, religious etc) and the modern world, how it's riddled with badly justificated discrimination, war, dehumanization and pointless hate and violence because some people care more for their own ideals of how the world should be and don't care for the damage they do. Yeah not a perfect interpretation. Another one could be how as long as you live you can improve things or have something but death is a permanent empty end and thus dumb.
@ThatAllSeeingEye
@ThatAllSeeingEye Жыл бұрын
Hell yes, Off is one of those cornerstone games that inspired a generation like yumi nikki did, glad to see you cover it
@andrewmanchiraju8005
@andrewmanchiraju8005 Жыл бұрын
Just looking at the game’s aesthetic I can definitely see how it inspired Undertale.
@funstuffies822
@funstuffies822 Жыл бұрын
Are we not gonna talk about how Sagan confused an SNES controller with a PS1 controller at 41:26?
@OtakuUnitedStudio
@OtakuUnitedStudio Жыл бұрын
I guess not, you're the only comment I found that mentions it.
@littlegeecko8784
@littlegeecko8784 Жыл бұрын
I was just genuinely hoping he would eventually say "And just like that, we beat Off"
@Heli-draws
@Heli-draws Жыл бұрын
Off is definitely one of those games that deserve more attention
@Pleia_Ds
@Pleia_Ds Жыл бұрын
The horror isn't Elsen's miserable societies--it's the fact that the alternative is even WORSE
@nastalovremya
@nastalovremya Жыл бұрын
the thing that saved OFF combat from ruining the game is Pepper Steak playing as a battle theme
@ethanimatronic
@ethanimatronic Жыл бұрын
I haven't even heard of this game until now and I absolutely love it. The music is super good and I really love the artstyle, this is definitely up there with Undertale and Yume Nikki
@nicholasaugello2534
@nicholasaugello2534 Жыл бұрын
Did you know that Undertale was inspired from OFF? Also obviously the mother series but the genocide route of Undertale is HEAVILY inspired from OFF
@1212x_O
@1212x_O Жыл бұрын
@@nicholasaugello2534 Lol reading this made me realize he changed the title. It was "The game that inspired undertale's genocide route" or something close
@caramel9154
@caramel9154 Жыл бұрын
@@nicholasaugello2534 oh yeah, i remember there being an old sketch of papyrus that was a lot closer to dedan
@conner523
@conner523 Жыл бұрын
OFF was a huge influence on my story telling style, art, and word building, and I'm happy to see it being brought up again. I have to say I protest the implication that most of its fans were there because they were waiting for homestuck to update, I wasn't and countless others appreciate it for its incredibly unique style and story
@NezumiVA
@NezumiVA Жыл бұрын
Well, that isn't quite what I was trying to say, lol. Just that the dry period sent a lot of HS's fans elsewhere, where they would discover other things to appreciate just as much if not more - with OFF being a common one at the time.
@lesflaya
@lesflaya Жыл бұрын
Ahhh such a great video!! I remember when OFF was just all over tumblr back in the day, and seeing it everywhere back when I was rly into homestuck when I was like 13ish. So many memories while also learning a lot of the stuff I never knew as I never actually played the game, but heard it offhand from my friend. Anyway great video !
@getsouped
@getsouped Жыл бұрын
zacharie TRANSED MY GENDER at the age of 11 and nothing has been the same since in all seriousness though, thank you to both you and marcie for covering this game! i have a very close history with it, its been a comfort game for a decade now. hell, i cosplayed valerie mask zacharie on the last day of ninth grade with a mask made from poster board and tights covering the eye holes. ive always seen the game as more unpopular (especially nowadays, it was popular on tumblr in the early 2010s. iykyk), so the fact that two of my favourite youtubers covered my favourite game at this time of year really felt like an early xmas present :-)
@Bluebonez
@Bluebonez Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure zacharie caused so many trans awakenings it's insane
@interdimensionalgoober8769
@interdimensionalgoober8769 Жыл бұрын
@@Bluebonez several gay ones aswell
@getsouped
@getsouped Жыл бұрын
@@interdimensionalgoober8769 yea i became a zacharie fan and now im a gay transmasc 😔
@kris117
@kris117 Жыл бұрын
i’m totally going to use “transed my gender” now thank you.
@getsouped
@getsouped Жыл бұрын
@@kris117 HRJEBTN i love using tht phrase im glad its spreading !! if youre looking for more i also like “transgenderinator” and “fired a gender beam” :-) they can also be combined into smthn like “man zacharie used his transgenderinator and fired a beam at me and now i use they/he pronouns” .. i just like funny terms like that when talking about my gender discovery journey in relation to characters making me realise “i wanna look like him” like zacharie, mettaton ex, etc.
@mothra6652
@mothra6652 Жыл бұрын
29:13 I don't know if anyone's mentioned this yet but this puzzle isn't trial and error, it's a Lost Woods type puzzle. The music will sound louder near the correct doorway.
@pollbun7490
@pollbun7490 Жыл бұрын
I really wish you had given felixthejudge a mention. I know you gave his fangame HOME a shoutout at the end but I still think it deserved more than a brief mention considering how much the community cherishes it. Unfortunately he passed a few years ago from a car accident and games like oneshot and most off fan games attribute and mourn him. He had a much bigger impact on the rpgmaker scene than you’d realize. Rest in peace, Arin “Felix” Mullins 🎩 🐱
@komos3719
@komos3719 Жыл бұрын
Man, what a throwback. I can't ever forget how fun of a time it was when everyone was getting into OFF, it was such a novel and intriguing world that got introduced to us.
@iamjustKiko
@iamjustKiko Жыл бұрын
You managed to make something so reminiscent of Alias's music and vocal style with that opening song, and it sounds great!
@cringfailashley
@cringfailashley Жыл бұрын
I actually quite like the fighting portion of the game. It's satisfying. The process of "purification" and slowly ridding the zone of spectres, even if no matter how many you kill there will always be one more. I like fighting the spooky ghosts.
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s pretty fun plus the batter gets cool attacks, though it’s kind of twisted when you learn how bad making the zones pure is.
@trans_ghoul
@trans_ghoul Жыл бұрын
Love to see more appreciation of one of my favorite horror games. I hope this video encourages more people to check out the game
@TheHiScoreShow
@TheHiScoreShow Жыл бұрын
Something I found interesting in the game is how the guardians describe the batter, thinking to myself that the batter didn’t fit that description. That is until the end of the game.
@Littlecolincre2
@Littlecolincre2 Жыл бұрын
As for someone who's special interest is OFF and OFF fangames (Especially CSRverse), this makes me extremely happy that off is getting even the speck of spotlight. The game has such lovable soundtrack, art, and game-play that effected me on how i see what counts as "horror / surreal." As much as i love making cute art as a artist, i also adore making horror art that is especially inspired by how OFF takes the melancholy feeling on some of the songs and art (even with un-familiarity) and warps it at the end of the game when everything is too late. im so hopeful that this fandom might get revived again! This video truely explained of what OFF is truely is. My favorite character is Enoch, The guardian and boss of zone 3, since he's a character that was rushed and didnt had enough spotlight like Dedan and Japhet. His character is fantasizing to see the comparison from when you first met him in zone 3 and when later you take the place as hugo, helping him out of the hole. i could gush about the guardians all day but i'll wrap that up by saying make sure that you look *closely* of the way they form their words and they way they act. Even with the game's flaws, it's something that i and many others cherish this game and get inspired by it's wonderfully written story. im a big nerd of RPG games and Puzzles, along with it's strangely beautiful art. OFF is one of those gems that has it's own charm with that nostalgic yet surrealistic feel. thanks for making this game and shinning a light to the game itself.
@frogueThief
@frogueThief Жыл бұрын
I'm so happy this came across my recommended, OFF is one of my favorite games and I still listen to the soundtrack to this day, Avatar Beat is one of my faves ☺️ edit: the way the Elsens describe the elements like "if we didn't have smoke, we'd have no air to breathe" reminded me of a essay I wrote in the 4th grade talking about the body structure in that same way, if we didn't have bones our body would have no structure and we would be limp, if we didn't have muscles we'd be a pile of skin and bone, etc. Just recognize that now and thought it was kinda cool
@tytonykus012
@tytonykus012 Жыл бұрын
Each retrospective gets more and more unique and fun to watch, this channel is honestly so cool
@candyanime2
@candyanime2 Жыл бұрын
me clicking on this video, mildly curious: oh hey, i remember this game, i used to be really deep in the fandom, what, a decade ago? i barely remember any of it me, the instant i hear pepper steak: [suddenly experiences every human emotion in a single moment]
@ohgodohfuck7959
@ohgodohfuck7959 Жыл бұрын
Finding out where the Zacharie mask comes from after years and years of occasionally peaking into different fandoms felt like getting slapped in the face
@cinnabunz1532
@cinnabunz1532 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite childhood games that also made me feel depressed. Definitely a master piece of it's time
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 Жыл бұрын
Undertale, hit me harder with Asriel’s, whole tragedy of a life it sucked, but I’ll admit judge, walking off on his own in the cannon ending is really heartaching.
@cinnabunz1532
@cinnabunz1532 Жыл бұрын
@@joshshrum2764 Yeah though Undertale gave me a lot more hope. Off is like lay on the floor and think about existing for a bit
@Hambo325
@Hambo325 Жыл бұрын
41:28 Who's gonna tell em that's not a PS1 controller
@echo_echoes
@echo_echoes Жыл бұрын
Putting this here for me and anyone else interested. OFF Inspired (fan) games: - Home (The Judge's perspective) - Suits, A Business RPG (Business perspective, might be an Elsen's perspective) - Hello Charlotte (You puppet Charlotte in an OFF inspired game)
@phantommoon11
@phantommoon11 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this is the best video about OFF that I have ever watched. First of all, I highly appreciate you giving the creators the support and love they deserve while also being honest about the gameplay flaws. I get OFF isn't for everyone, but from a narrative and aesthetic standpoint, you have to admit that it inspires a lot of people. Second, I really liked your interpretations of OFF's story. To be honest, I think every interpretation is right. OFF is one of those games were there's no correct or wrong answer; it's all based on the view of the player who controls the batter. As you pointed out, the game is a satire for how we play video games and makes fun or light of the consequences as you play in a world outside of your own. Because of that, there's really no right or wrong answer to the game's story. If it's a game that's a satire on video games, it makes sense for the story to be ambiguous and for you, the player, to interpret. After all, you are the puppeteer, you get to control the protagonist and how you view the game's world. Even so, there are some obvious themes such as cancer, climate change, religion, etc. I do agree in that those themes are meant to tie onto the satire of the game, but at the same time, I feel as if its a way to lead you into some conclusion as the player. A video game has to have some theme to make beating the game satisfying, right? If so, why not add some controversial themes to make the game's world more interesting, instead of just a satire. It's funny because that just adds onto the satire of playing a video game for a story and narrative. I won't let my thoughts go too crazy in this comment, after all, OFF is in my top 5 favorite games of all time with the MOTHER series and Persona 5 Royal beating it. I'm just so happy that OFF is getting more recognition lately and people like you are giving it the justice it deserves. I loved learning about the inspirations of OFF and how the silent hill inspirations made so much sense. I'm surprised OFF wasn't inspired by MOTHER either, since the batter reminded me of Ness right away, but as an older version of him. I also have parallels with OFF and The Binding Of Isaac, since both focus on a child as the main focus along with heavy religious themes. Games like Omori are obviously inspired by OFF as well, mainly with the de saturated colors for the sprites and the dark themes. Lastly, I want to point out how much I love Zacharie, because let's be honest, he was the Sans archetype before Sans existed. Zacharie is also in my top 5 favorite characters of all time and I could go on all day about why I love his character outside of his personality quirks and fourth wall breaks. I do agree that UnderTale did the theme of OFF a lot better with the genocide route, but even so, OFF has its own charm to it that UnderTale can't replicate. I wish the gameplay of OFF was better too, but we can't have everything from a late 2000's RPG maker game. Thank you for reading my thoughts and I'm very happy that OFF is taking on a new role within the world of fandoms. I'm happy to see it more well known, even if its little by little. This video was outstanding and summarized a lot of what people thought about the game. I enjoyed learning new things about the game I didn't know about either. To anyone else who reads this, I hope you find my comment interesting!
@jac_k
@jac_k Жыл бұрын
the out-of-bounds elsen mentioned at 52:51 is referring to the one at the top right at 20:54. he has weird dialogue only present in the english translation where he points out the fact that he's inaccessible and then says "help dismal find his fruit cup." don't think anyone really knows what it means oh yeah and this video was really good! thank you for covering one of my favorite games of all time :)
@username5155
@username5155 7 ай бұрын
33:19 “What I assume is the park” bro, it says it *right there*
@Inkyink
@Inkyink Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite games of all time, always love when OFF gets videos made out of it
@TheTimurQ
@TheTimurQ Жыл бұрын
Man, I remember when I first subscribed two years ago, your videos were well edited and well scripted collages of screenshots and gameplay/video parts, BUT NOW, WITH ALL THE MUSIC AND COSTUMES AND DEDICATED SCENES, AWWW MAN It is amaizing, and I’m so glad to see you grow not just as a content creator, but as an ARTIST. Keep it up! All the love ❤️
@tylociraptor8131
@tylociraptor8131 Жыл бұрын
God, I haven't thought about OFF in so long. one of the few rpg style games I had the will to finish, the story, art, and music mesh so good.
@joshshrum2764
@joshshrum2764 Жыл бұрын
Plus it’s just pure bliss for any Radiohead, fan the artstyle is heavily similar to Thom yorkes, hand drawing on ep’s, and concept art for ok computer, and kid a, along with the music having similar vibes especially avatar beat which sounds like Idiotque off Kid A.
@justas423
@justas423 Жыл бұрын
Quick little idea: The Batter is a Vessel for the Player, so his existence is a bit weird which let's him equip Add-Ons for some more order. The idea is that The Queen is a Vessel for Hugo, which is why she also gets Add-Ons. The reason they talk like they know each other is because they're both vessels for greater powers. They're literally info-dumping for The Players sake.
@flmb02
@flmb02 Жыл бұрын
The OFF OST is such a great experience. Silencio gives me chills when it pops up
@waferdaze8017
@waferdaze8017 Жыл бұрын
It is a very dark game, where the two main choices the game gives you in its duration are between a "special ending" and an "official ending" at the very end. It's definitely a more inherently bleak game if you look into it. That last choice, even if you make the "correct" one by the Judge's standard, is possibly even worse than just siding with the batter at that stage. It also falls into a question of how much you believe in the idea that there are fates "worse than death." Siding with the judge, you see him basically forever to wander what remains of the world alone. There's no one left. Even the Batter, once you get to the queen, describes it as something of a failure. His conversation with the queen is the most personal he speaks, and he only mentions such pessimistic perspectives and a defeatist attitude when he has all but succeeded that vague goal. It feels like the part we get the most of him personally, and that might lend itself to the sudden narrator. He takes some control back to speak. This "crusade" he was on was likely not entirely of his own volition, instead an experiment that he saw through to it's completion. "Now because of you, I must complete my sacred duty" is not something someone who WANTS to do that sacred duty says. Yet at that stage, where all the guardians have fallen, and what little remains, is it hopeless to recover? Is there anything left to do besides turn in for the night? What is more painful? Turning to a base survival instinct to prolong life, no matter the futility or suffering, or embrace a dreamless sleep? Of course, your final meta analysis answers the third choice the player has. Do nothing. The batter is only pushed to end everything by the actions of the player playing the game. It is up to the player to decide when it's over. When the world is locked in a resting stasis. The earlier on, the better the hope that the world has for the time it is OFF. It is fulfilled, everyone. The guardians preside over a sleeping world, the apocalypse is pushed back. Even the Elsen. Do they have to work, function, deal with the specters, all of that? No, they are resting when the game is OFF. They aren't facing any distinct trouble. But then we loop back around to a question of whether or not that's better or worse than actual death. Yet, given the only alternative is a straight drop of hope ON TOP of death, it's more ethical likely.
@haxis3764
@haxis3764 Жыл бұрын
This is the best Sagan Hawkes video… I wasn’t expecting Homestuck, NezumiVA, Danganronpa, and Evangelion to be brought up.
@geekconn558
@geekconn558 Жыл бұрын
I played OFF when I was 15-16. It is, to this day, still an experience I think back on and think deeply about almost nine years later. It was one of the first pieces of media I took in that really morphed the way I looked at life.
@teppabb5336
@teppabb5336 Жыл бұрын
A video involving both Sagan Hawkes and NezumiVA!! I’m so excited!!!
@alexanderjamesaustin
@alexanderjamesaustin Жыл бұрын
I totally thought papyrus looking like dedan and napstablook's theme sounding like peppered steak was a coincidence. Oh man that's neat
@rsparks1104
@rsparks1104 Жыл бұрын
Man. I don't really remember much of my brief playthrough of OFF as a kid, except how heartbroken it made me. Watching this video reminded me of precisely why I felt that way.
@BrightPage174
@BrightPage174 Жыл бұрын
41:27 "on a playstation 1 controller" Oh my sweet lord the times really are changing
@Jack_Saint_Archive
@Jack_Saint_Archive Жыл бұрын
*I love when OFF said "It's inspirin' time!" snd inspired all over the Undertale. Truly one of the inspirations of all time.*
@miniespeon158
@miniespeon158 Жыл бұрын
This production quality is fucking mint!! Thanks for keeping me company while overcoming my first stomach flu (its terrible but this makes it tolerable)
@samc8068
@samc8068 Жыл бұрын
i was not expecting vinny's "glup shitto" i nearly spat out my water
@endlessrats
@endlessrats 14 сағат бұрын
Thank you for this!! In particular, thank you for doing an expansive community section by getting contributions from a peer - some people would leave it at "I wasn't there, so I dunno about that", and I appreciate the extra work of reaching out and getting more perspective. This video rules. Also, thank you for the game recommendations!
@FlamingPork
@FlamingPork Жыл бұрын
came for the hour and a half long analysis of one of the most influential pieces of media for my creative output as an artist, stayed for the -insanely well done anthony fantano bit- thorough, engaging essay breaking down the themes and meta commentary giving me even more insight on a game i thought i knew in and out. this was an amazingly well crafted video, and i can't thank you enough for the work you did on it!
@ThelxoxlGirls
@ThelxoxlGirls Жыл бұрын
I found out about it from watching Mark's playthrough. IT became an instant favorite, and I miss this game's fandom and the excitement that surrounded it so much. I can play the game whenever I want, which is nice. But it isn't the same having far fewer people behind it. Truly an excellent game, even with its faults. So glad you decided to do a video on it, even though it's over a decade old and past its prime. Hell, I'm excited to see anything about it these days. Great work, I really enjoyed this video :] P.S. When I was doing a bit of comparing between OFF and Undertale to a friend of mine, they argued against me, roughly saying that there were very few comparisons to be made at *most*. I really have no idea why they thought that, but...ok. Couldn't get them to see it, but oh well.
@noah0bean
@noah0bean Жыл бұрын
nice pfp
@ThelxoxlGirls
@ThelxoxlGirls Жыл бұрын
@@noah0bean oh shit nice pfp
@muriilouwu
@muriilouwu Жыл бұрын
I LOVE ALIAS CONRAD for making the OFF OST, i really do
@ForgeMyOwnCompass
@ForgeMyOwnCompass Жыл бұрын
they way it's kept kind of iffy as to whether or not Batter intends to wipe out worlds up until the "It's better this way" line hits so hard
@ziodyne.
@ziodyne. Жыл бұрын
NO WAY i just found your channel yesterday, have been binging, then you drop a retrospective on one of my fave games? absolute legend
@DemonRenamon
@DemonRenamon Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for covering this game! Literally one of my favorite RPGs of all time, and I'd love to see more eyes on it again.
@ryderite2282
@ryderite2282 Жыл бұрын
so happy this game is getting more recognition even though it's been so long. been one of my favorites for years and im still actively in the community. just subscribed 👍
@rklover13
@rklover13 8 ай бұрын
So glad to see an analysis of one of my favorite games. I'd love to see you cover Fran Bow, Ib, and Darkwood.
@davidbanan.
@davidbanan. Жыл бұрын
I'm not really sure why but the (misstranslated?) line "Killing Wife and Child" has been permenantly Spot welded into my brain matter
@sarahjones4514
@sarahjones4514 Жыл бұрын
this is so exciting, i adore all of your videos and the work that goes into them. off meant a lot to me in 2013 (the og fandom revival) so this means a lot to me also!
@redflamingarrow_
@redflamingarrow_ Жыл бұрын
If it makes you feel any better Sagan, this is probably the best video you've made. It's definitely my favourite at least.
@username5155
@username5155 7 ай бұрын
30:58 By the way, I believe Mortis Ghost once said that the Secretaries are what the Guardians were keeping out, and without them, they killed all of the Elsen. This also explains how there is a sole survivor of the Sercretaries’ attack in the form of the only resident of Bismark’s shelters that didn’t either leave or burn, because, as they say, the safehouse kept them safe, and now the Secretaries will keep them safe from anyone else trying to come get them so long as they just stay inside. 31:47 Also, the French version says (in French obviously) “The Merchant” instead of “The Masked Man”, which makes it very clear that this masked merchant was 100% Zacharie, especially when you consider that, prior to taking over as The Judge while Pablo looks for Valérie (RiP), Zacharie is always seen wearing a mask of a toad.
@Eleanor__Rigby
@Eleanor__Rigby Жыл бұрын
i'm sure my icon makes it evident, but OFF is a very important game to me and has been a big part of my life for a long time. excited for its oncoming revival, and to welcome new fans of the game into the fandom with open arms 🖤
@elysiumfields2791
@elysiumfields2791 Жыл бұрын
Oh God, I remember when I was deep into my Amino phase and helped run a dead OFF Amino with some people who I only knew as Catcher (an OC of theirs) and Zacharie (he was eerily like Zacharie even outside of RP)
@elysiumfields2791
@elysiumfields2791 Жыл бұрын
I kinda hope they're watching this video right now
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