Michael is always very detailed and eloquent. Super piece. I'm not even really interested in this bike but his thoughts are always informative.
@jonaskolton91223 жыл бұрын
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@brendanreuben61623 жыл бұрын
@Jonas Kolton instablaster :)
@jonaskolton91223 жыл бұрын
@Brendan Reuben I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site on google and Im trying it out atm. Takes a while so I will get back to you later with my results.
@jonaskolton91223 жыл бұрын
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@brendanreuben61623 жыл бұрын
@Jonas Kolton happy to help :)
@TheAegisClaw3 жыл бұрын
I ride one because of the legroom and the view over the top of most SUVs, which before SUVs were everywhere was ok on a standard bike.
@_Makanko_3 жыл бұрын
I'm more interested in the release of the 490adv, that seems a lot nicer.
@MGLkiwi20083 жыл бұрын
Shame the 890 has got heavier, and the extra grunt isn't needed off road. I wish KTM would produce a light (150kg maximum wet) dual sport travel bike at around 450 to 500cc (single cylinder) that has long service intervals and a subframe strong enough to carry soft luggage without cracking when bouncing around off-road. The 690 Enduro comes close - but it is more of a heavy enduro bike than a lightweight dual sports adventure travel bike.
@thalisblangidis85773 жыл бұрын
I got a 790 Adventure for £9500 just a month ago. I barely do off road but I really cannot see a lot of middle weight tourers out there around this price with 95 horse power, decent suspension, advanced ABS, advanced traction control and riding modes, a nice riding position which doesn’t hurt your back after an hour riding and a decent fuel tank which can give you 200+ miles of travel range. Plus the fact that when you need to do the extra mile and go to a nice location using the off road capability, you can do it. Of course choosing a bike is always a very personal thing :-)
@timothydubber5493 жыл бұрын
Apart from the BMW F850GS and the Tiger 900...
@tskinboot11373 жыл бұрын
@@timothydubber549 well I doubt you can buy both of them with the same level of equipment for £9500. More likely account £11500. Not to mention the worse finance in comparison with the KTM. I did like the tiger but the basic model is not good enough
@timothydubber5493 жыл бұрын
That’s true, although the £9500 for the 790 Adventure is only because they need to get rid of old stock due to the 890. The original list price was quite a lot more. I expect if you shopped round you could get an ex demo for similar money. I test rode the 790 Adventure and definitely thought the BMW was worth every penny of the extra money, I think I’d probably expect the same from the Tiger. Plus, they both come in colours that aren’t orange...
@thalisblangidis85773 жыл бұрын
@@timothydubber549 I said initially that to choose a bike is quite personal. I have couple of examples from people who tried the BMW and found it much worse than the KTM. I wouldn’t buy the BMW anyway but I would buy the Tiger if the GT was below 10K. The 790 is not a bad bike though. It is fast enough for my needs, well equipped and can serve as a touring/adventure bike. So you may not like it but I do...Also I like orange :-)
@paulvanhout96953 жыл бұрын
I live in the western USA and adventure riders here actually take their bikes off-road. We are blessed with thousands of miles of fabulous adventure riding here so maybe a different perspective. Light weight, suspension and tractability are essential. Excellent insights on the 890 - they do need to up their game on reliability.
@Yamalover783 жыл бұрын
👍🏻 😄 Ik denk dat je met een Yamaha Tenere 700 veel beter kan off-roaden.
@AndrewBoundy3 жыл бұрын
I have a 700GS and I take it off-road often. Remember, offroad means "not surfaced, not "enduro" - there are other bikes for that. If you stick within the capabilities, tires etc., it's fun on most surfaces if you're not in a rush. I like ADV because the roads here in Mexico can be poor so having more susp. travel is a good thing when meeting 2ft, 6" deep potholes mid-corner :-). I also like the ability to pack with soft luggage etc. and go away for a bit. I don't like the poser-value of ADV though "look at me - I'm gnarly - I have a picture of the world on my unmarked pannier" - sigh. Great video as always MCN - quality channel.
@sillytorque Жыл бұрын
yeah so that comes down to personal definition - I don't consider a gravel or dirt road as offroad... they are still a road, if it's ever beed graded, its a road...... not that really matters.... as long as expectations are not getting people either disappointed or in over their head.
@markzabo89883 жыл бұрын
For BDR type riding (maybe except the expert sections), the 890 AR is a great choice. You have to ask how much pain you want on the road and at camp to be able to be comfortable on the more technical sections. I sold my 1250 GSA after 1 year because of the extreme weight and top heavy attributes, the 890 is much lighter (yes I know it's still heavy) and the weight is down low which I really like. I've had mine for a good bit with zero issues, but I haven't really put it to a good long off road beating YET :-) (that's coming soon). I have a 500 EXC-F that I have abused with zero reliability issues, it's a great bike if you trailer it to the start of the BDR, but you have to pack extremely light and it stinks on the road.
@ReedSta43 жыл бұрын
Sounds like there needs to be a 890 GT
@flyingfox72523 жыл бұрын
It’s going to be called the Husky Norden 901
@riaanvaneeden60903 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest review, including possible reliability issues. I would love this bike if it were as robust as advertised.
@whiterabbitt20022 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2020 KTM 790 Adventure S last December 2020. I love the bike. Yes it can be classified both as an Adventure/Off Road/Sports Touring Motorcycle IMO. Most satisfying motorcycle I have yet to own, I also currently own a 2016 Motto Guzzi V7 II Stone and a Harley Super Low 12000T. just saying
@falconax13 жыл бұрын
KTM needs to build a 890 Duke GT, thinking of sich a bike since the 790 Duke was introduced
@allwheeldrive3 жыл бұрын
An "adventure" bike that has the specter of being unreliable? Next... Tossing into the conversation - I've got an '09 Speed Triple and an '04 VStrom 1000. Got the V after the Speed because I wanted something for the essence of what ADVs are designed for: reliable, longer, comfy rides in unpredictable conditions. In a major California city, we ride a lot here. The roads can be punishing, and in any direction, the basic conditions can change significantly. I also like to take my wife out, and more than 30 minutes on the pillion position requires real, human-scale room. I don't go off road, except an occasional fire road. The V is quite good at soaking up bumps, carrying things, and comfortably cruising at some pretty excessive speeds. I *love* my Speed, but it's utility is limited, which prevented me from just hopping on and going. Not a big fan of the V's looks, but I've put some time into that to make it better :)
@ultimatist3 жыл бұрын
Remember, sadly, the market tends to buy on looks, not substance.
@monstermarkone3 жыл бұрын
Loving the bike terminology used here: “Soft-roaders” and “Tall-roaders”. Exactly what today’s (read ageing, me!) riders need! Also I find it funny how I look at an 890 and think it a small bike. A 916 (yes I know it’s a completely different style, but...) is a mere 26cc bigger and that was a big bike in its day!
@andrewtaylor97992 жыл бұрын
5:40 "If you're only going to ride on-road, there are probably a lot of tour roaders that do the job just as well as KTM for a lot, lot less." I'd love to know what you recommend those of this in the group.
@ianboyd86853 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great review. And I like your style - no theatrics, no BS, just an honest, straightforward opinion/review of the bike. And having listened to you, I'll stick with my 790R now.
@MGLkiwi20083 жыл бұрын
The 790/890 R version is definitely more comfortable for taller riders and works brilliantly off road. I am 6 feet like Neevsey, which is not particularly tall, but find the standard Adventure too short.
@flyingfox72523 жыл бұрын
A very valid point you make. Most riders will not have the skill level to manage this bike off-road so the mass market needs to consider it as a Sports Tourer!!!
@parf26653 жыл бұрын
Like the look of Ktm's but reliabity issues put me off from owning one. Japanese bikes all day long for me.
@gryphongryph3 жыл бұрын
I think the European manufacturer should be embarrass that still today, they can not match the Japanese in quality !!!!! These bikes are very expensive for costumers to buy and I for one, living remotely would not buy a Euro Bike, as I would worry all the time about things stop working and it seams to get even worse with all the electronics the bikes now have. Well, maybe a Triumph Speed Twin as I have heard that Triumphs quality is getting up there now, not sure that rumour is true though ?
@marcinsmaga34413 жыл бұрын
@@gryphongryph Triumphs are pretty good these days. I own a 2012 Tiger 800 XC and did over 50 000 miles on it. Always service it by my self not always by the book. The only issue I had so far is a broken clutch sensor next to clutch lever. Simple fix, unplug it and off you go ;) I live in UK and ride all year. It is kept on the street at the moment so no matter what weather. I am the owner of for the past 3 years.
@robsonenduro33163 жыл бұрын
you living in the past, ktm got better and Japanese bikes got worse so you are looking about the same reliability.
@gryphongryph3 жыл бұрын
@@robsonenduro3316 are you serious, i think you are fooling yourself thinking that!
@gillesgenete95982 жыл бұрын
@@gryphongryph my experience with KTM is this : 450excf 2010, no issue in 5000km of enduro. 990adv 2011, no issue in 26.000km of touring. My Africa Twin crf1000 2016: had to replace both left and right switch boxes befor 10.000km. My Yamaha R1 2010 : gearbox out at 5000km of track racing. My Husqvarna 701 2021 : no issue in 7000km off road this year. I read issues on new 790 at its launch, I hope 890 fixes all issues of 790.
@marscruz3 жыл бұрын
I like Brett Tkacs recent one year evaluation of the 790/890 Adventure. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/icelosaZ0Li1dWw.html UK riders probably don't have as much available offload riding as we do here in the states or in Oz or NZ. That affects the road/dirt equation and can easily tip it more toward the dirt side here. It's great to have so many choices these days. This segment is sliced so much more thin than it used to be. If only I was 40 years younger.
@Felixmax507 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review but at the end you should mention about the competition by name if you mentioned it at all.
@Supernova120342 жыл бұрын
neeves is the GOAT of motorcycle reviewers.
@sabamacx3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I just want a 1290 SM R with soft luggage.
@KTM-10903 жыл бұрын
MCN really need to hire someone with a love and understanding of adventure bikes in the UK. I like Neevsey but calling a 21inch front wheel ‘weird’ is bizarre. Adventure bikes, and the larger front wheels, are popular in the UK because it’s always raining, the road surfaces are terrible and there’s speed cameras everywhere. Sports bikes are useless here outside of a track. So yes, obviously you could buy a better handling bike but you’d get it out twice a year when the sun comes out.
@michaelbrady93643 жыл бұрын
890 smt Would be interesting
@user-hn8lq2mk9f3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! But...
@johncreamer33183 жыл бұрын
Definitely interesting, big shoes to fill tho.... nothing they've done so far has done it..
@AyoHues3 жыл бұрын
Nothing out there as good as my old 990SMT. Except my MV Agusta Turismo Veloce but that’s more sports tourer than tall roader.
@disekjoumoer3 жыл бұрын
Prototypes were spotted two years ago... But after that, nothing.
@maalmiksa74093 жыл бұрын
Hi so what tall roader would you suggest
@kimomoto Жыл бұрын
I had 10 issues with my 890 AdvR. Everything from Immobilizer failure, moisture inside the TFT display and cold start issues
@DMSparky3 жыл бұрын
lol make the middle weight adv bike heavier and more powerful asked literally nobody.... it’s a real shame no one really rides these bikes off road. I can confirm my tenere 700 is a pain to pick up off road. Basically you have to ride with buddy’s which you really should be doing anyways.
@ramboisold3 жыл бұрын
Hi I need your opinion ! Would KTM 890 Adventure be a good motorcycle for 200 to 300 km on road(highway speeds) and then may be 50 km minor offroad ?Currently I have Yamaha XSR 900, but it is horrible on the highways - alot of wind, death wobble in the handle bars , super stiff suspension. I am not hardcore offroader ??
@gillesgenete95982 жыл бұрын
Why don't you go testing by yourself ? Review says 890 standard has good wind protection but tough seat.
@ralphwarom25143 жыл бұрын
From a comparison point of view, the price is a bit high. But its a great bike and I think anyone who loves KTM dual cylinder engines will love this.
@MrJoeMoreton2 жыл бұрын
It's way more capable off road than you suggest. I'd suggest that the limiting factor for off road antics will be the ability of the rider, not the bike. Great review otherwise thanks.
@disekjoumoer3 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for KTM to finally bring out the SMT/C. Can't believe the prototypes of those bikes were spotted two whole years ago with absolutely no mention after that.
@yan6639 Жыл бұрын
Planning to get this, but what stops me is the reliability issues.
@ownyourworld3 жыл бұрын
There is a lot of off road if you know where to look
@oztursen3 жыл бұрын
It is ridiculous how this channel never ever mentions reliability issues with Triumphs. To them, English bikes are amazing and all five star rated. To this date, I have never seen a Triumph that is not leaking oil but I never even heard a mention of that on this channel. Or, any of the issues with their transmission or electronics. But when it comes to KTMs, nothing but reliability issues or why do you need this bike. They never said that for Tiger, have they?
@sAu54g33 жыл бұрын
I’m a huge KTM fan. But that has to be one of the ugliest bikes I’ve ever seen.
@Theravadinbuto2 жыл бұрын
It’s funny how KTM prices their bikes in different markets. Here in Canada it is definitely cheaper than most of the competitors (except of course the Tenere). I take my 790S into some fairly interesting off-road - I like the lower seat height than the R version - but I do have extensively rebuilt suspension.
@gordonjames88113 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael i hope Yamaha comes out with a 900 that fits the bill for most Adventure riders, certainly a caveat when in 2020 reliability is an issue and Yamaha needs a middle weight .
@exothermal.sprocket2 жыл бұрын
Tracer 9 GT?
@straightup12342 жыл бұрын
Yes very interested in yamaha 900 tenre , but would need tft dash , center stand & cruse control for me to buy
@hjburke3 жыл бұрын
Cheaper than gs850? Not in canada
@nithinjacob74553 жыл бұрын
Seems like KTMs introducing even-numbered bikes as the more hooligan versions of the odd-numbered ones! There’s only one thing I can ask for, a duke 490 plz🙏🏾
@_Makanko_3 жыл бұрын
Aye, I think the 490 series is due for 2022 or 2023, parallel twin in the adv, RC and duke type. Should be good.
@axellness3 жыл бұрын
superb review, thanks!
@bollox12352 жыл бұрын
Is there one with black paintwork?
@tigercs13 жыл бұрын
Neevsey reviews the XD-4. If it ain't broke don't fix it. I ended up with an AX-9 but still curious. Even more with the E1.
@Firestorm6373 жыл бұрын
I grew up on dirt bike 2 strokes, less than 200 pounds. 500 pound adventure bike would be an adventure! Lol! I like Dual sports with dirt road capability or 350 or less weight 4 stroke adventure bike. But for serious off road, 2 strokes for me. They can take a beating, Easy and cheap maintenance with their light weight power.
@nortondlcl3 жыл бұрын
I’ll wait on this one, Thank you for the great review
@colinpirie84033 жыл бұрын
Ktm in NZ won’t have a 890R for demo to April next year let alone this one 😂
@tomg62842 жыл бұрын
The older rider wants a comfortable ride. Upright with wind shield plus cruse control. Off road only if I have no choice.
@davealston38813 жыл бұрын
That guy is brilliant. No bells no whistles unlike some American reviewers who make stupid self promoting comments.
@8andsk8353 жыл бұрын
KTM- Killed Thousands of Men. I test rode one today, for the price I’m gonna pass, so many other options that are super reliable and cheaper. The bike looks and feels nice though.
@adelaltamimi36202 жыл бұрын
I am very confusing between 890r and 890s But it’s beautiful
@soaruk36973 жыл бұрын
Love it that 890 is now considered 'middleweight'............
@sgs131973 жыл бұрын
Can I get the weight, fuel and other figures in in Imperial please...
@davidmallia6283 жыл бұрын
Seems to me, nothing beats a 1200/1250 gs for riders who do road, and fire roads, two up. Otherwise, for rider only, no pilion, Kawa Versys 650, T7, or vstrom 650. For road only, Kawa z1000sx. My choices, at least.
@kloppskalli2 жыл бұрын
how much better than a 790 is it ... i could get a used, like new 790 for 10k ...
@focusgreg41363 жыл бұрын
Great content ✨
@colinm20563 жыл бұрын
The thing that truely pisses me off about this bike & the 790 is that i dont have one!
@leonesterhazy83553 жыл бұрын
bugger wanted review on Adventure R
@ducatimale3 жыл бұрын
Adventure bikes are the SUVs of motorcycling.
@mbingham102 жыл бұрын
Not only are there few places to ride an adventure bike in the UK, you forgot to mention its full to bursting with people, so if you do find the odd track to use it on you will probably be confronted by some old rambler with a map around its neck, or a stuck up horse rider that think she or he owns with world with a plumb in its mouth, the roads on the way to the thin on the ground dirt track will be filled with cars, with drivers that have not a jot of patience and want to kill you by driving right up your dirt box, the joys of living in the UK, Hopefully it will be a little more crowded once its been milked dry, wont be long now.
@abymathew2953 жыл бұрын
Bike makers are pushing hard to make their bikes lighter and lighter, that compromises build quality and reliability....that sucks.....🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴
@abymathew2953 жыл бұрын
Neevesy's Helmet....😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
@kendrick_not_lamar3 жыл бұрын
Michael "Bovver Boy" Neeves!
@rog51503 жыл бұрын
The bike can ride like a champ, but that's lost on me! I can't get past the looks, it just doesn't flow.....
@tigerick72913 жыл бұрын
I don't like the way it looks.
@loeffelm2 жыл бұрын
A lot of tour roaders, such as?
@sarnbradshaw73823 жыл бұрын
Yamaha Ténéré 700 all the way
@samiam53263 жыл бұрын
Rather have a V-Strom 650.
@Dan-563 жыл бұрын
Nope ! Traded in my 2017 650 V-Strom on a “left over” 2019 790 Adventure. The KTM has better suspension, better brakes, better handling especially in crosswinds, more capable two up, carry’s the 30 lb of gas lower for better balance at low speeds and the lack of the feeling of “falling over” into turns, and is more controllable on gravel/dirt roads. The 650 V-Strom is a great bike for its price, but there is no real comparison to the KTM.
@samiam53263 жыл бұрын
Dan’l 56 I’m glad you like your 790 Adventure, you’ve definitely inspired me to take one for a spin. While I’d agree that the larger V-Strom 1000 (and probably the new V-Strom 1050, although I have not ridden it) definitely has that “feeling of falling over in turns”. I’ve found the neutral cornering of the V-Strom 650 one of its best features. Still not sure if I trust KTM for reliability. Have you had any issues with yours so far?
@Dan-563 жыл бұрын
@@samiam5326: No problems to date, but with a two year warranty and a first class dealer who has looked after any problems I’ve had in the past, I don’t have too many worries. (Not my first KTM 😉). I wonder if you test rode the 650 with a full tank ? When I noticed the 650 V-Strom feeling like it was “falling” into corners was when the tank was full. 30 lb of gas at waist level, as apposed to 30 lb of gas at shin level on the KTM makes a big difference in handling.
@samiam53263 жыл бұрын
Dan’l 56 I find the V-Strom 650 very top heavy at standstill with a full tank of gas. Very neutral handling when on the move, especially in the twisties.
@222wheelsdown3 жыл бұрын
I own the ktm 390 adventure (my first bike) and have been eyeing the strom 650XT or the Tenere as my next upgrade... this 890 is more than capable but just too expensive and not sure I want another KTM...
@johncreamer33183 жыл бұрын
990 SMT still their best all rounder then...👍👌😁
@bobsyeruncle48413 жыл бұрын
cramped and expensive there are better alternatives
@aydingultekin28463 жыл бұрын
KTM stands for Keep Throwing Money. A friend got a 390 duke. Serviced. Not pushed. 3 years old max 5000 kms on the clock. Oil leaking from the top gasket. Ktms are unreliable and poorly made. And thanks for bringing it up in the video
@javiermm58603 жыл бұрын
May be the Tracer 900...
@guypritchard24513 жыл бұрын
KTM has awful dealer back up, unfortunately being a KTM you will need it. Had a 790 for 12 months and not only did it have multiple warranty issues they argue against doing work on everyone.they are very rude and lie to customers.