Jim Cornette on AEW's Biggest Mistakes In 2022

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2 жыл бұрын

From Episode 241 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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@willkenshin
@willkenshin 2 жыл бұрын
One of their biggest mistakes is catering to the social media fanbase, mainly the twitter fanbase. You can't grow as a promotion just doing what twitter geeks tell you to do. The internet fanbase only makes up a small percentage of the overall wrestling fanbase globally. Every match is booked for the internet fans not actual wrestling fans. Also, another mistake is convincing your fanbase that you present a pro wrestling product yet you show everyone you're just another sports entertainment product
@mrreddington777
@mrreddington777 2 жыл бұрын
Well said dude.
@jeffmac9642
@jeffmac9642 2 жыл бұрын
NEWS FLASH : YOU ARE THE SOCIAL MEDIA FANBASE. You used the word product twice. Anyone not online or using insider lingo would ever use the word product 🤔
@Treklosopher
@Treklosopher 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffmac9642 Classic pedantry dude. Hyper focusing on the use or meaning of one word to try to discredit an otherwise cogent point. Well done. Pedants of the world, bicker!
@ShaneTumminello
@ShaneTumminello 2 жыл бұрын
All of pro wrestling is sports entertainment. Hell, even actual sports are sports entertainment at this point. Pro wrestling before sports entertainment was a local gimmick. Sports entertainment made it into a global attraction. Pro wrestling by itself isn’t a big draw. Sports entertainment is.
@jeffmac9642
@jeffmac9642 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShaneTumminello indeed ✌️
@wickedgood3793
@wickedgood3793 2 жыл бұрын
Archer has been my biggest complaint. He could have even had a short run like Kane did. He lost alot of momentum and never had a shot at building his legitimacy properly. He kinda got Caged
@sambo198921
@sambo198921 2 жыл бұрын
Missed opportunity they should have booked him like a legit monster like Kane dropper the ball with him
@wickedgood3793
@wickedgood3793 2 жыл бұрын
@@sambo198921 Exactly even a short title run wouldn't have hurt anyone only helped him. He beats jobbers but loses the big matches it's like man give him a good win. Last one was Moxley.
@sprunnel
@sprunnel 2 жыл бұрын
What was the tag team in wwe, mid 2000s, Doa? The biker gang? See he resembles them. Nothing particularly special , big guy. We don't hear him speak much or see ring psychology its just big guy smash. I dont think he has the potential wardlow has I am afraid
@wickedgood3793
@wickedgood3793 2 жыл бұрын
@@joegreene7619 Exactly. He will beat jobbers then on tv or KZfaq but against named people he will lose when they decide to use him that is. They only give him wins to have just enough momentum to put someone else over. He just put Wardlow over.
@BobHowler
@BobHowler 2 жыл бұрын
They need to change Archer’s music. It sounds like “It’s My Life” by Bon Jovi. You can’t be a monster with a Karen rock entrance.
@pdg90
@pdg90 2 жыл бұрын
Why is it that when a wrestler becomes champion you see less of them on TV in AEW lately? When Omega, Darby and Cody were champion they were wrestling every week.
@Drew_D
@Drew_D 2 жыл бұрын
Even if they just cut a short promo, I do want to see champions on TV every week. Preferably on Dynamite instead of Rampage.
@johnnygrind77
@johnnygrind77 2 жыл бұрын
Or after they lose it. Miro lost the TNT title and went MIA, Shida lost hers and was gone for a while, just to come back and have on again off again feuds with Deeb, but at least with Twinkle Toes McFingerband when he lost his, it was due to having to rehabilitate injuries and we were and are aware of it. Everyone else just goes missing...
@pdg90
@pdg90 2 жыл бұрын
when Shida and Nyla we're champion they wrestled every week, Britt Baker might've wrestled 3 times as champion. Hangman has had the worst title reign in wrestling history imo. (Not his fault tho.) T. Rosa has already been taken off TV, and Starks is just M.I.A. compared to Brian Cage's FTW reign.
@pgrove
@pgrove 2 жыл бұрын
@@pdg90 They hid Britt's wrestling for a reason, she's incredibly bad at it. It's a shame that Rosa had an awful no build fight with Nyla, when nobody cares about Nyla.. Then Rosa is just gone.
@pdg90
@pdg90 2 жыл бұрын
@@pgrove she's improved tho Lol. but she's still not that good, I'll agree. She's the best woman on promos tho
@TomE.V.
@TomE.V. 2 жыл бұрын
Tony Kahn is like a little kid with a giant toy box with a bunch of action figures. He plays with the ones he has until his daddy buys him a bunch of new ones
@wallyrosario654
@wallyrosario654 2 жыл бұрын
There are 3 major problems I find as a fan who actually enjoys the show most weeks. 1. Lack of consistent stories for major titles. Cole challenged page just because he wanted to be champion, only commentary mentioned their history making the feud seem like any other feud. The tag titles are randomly defended on rampage or dynamite in cold matches because they never build those matches up for us to care. Thunder Rosa has had 1 televised match since winning the title, battle of the belts retaining against Nyla Rose. The only consistent story for a title they tell in AEW is the TNT title and that story fucking sucks! I mean I like hangman but why do we never see the world champion of the promotion ever? Even during a pandemic Mox who lived across the country still defended the title once a month and was on tv as much as he could be. Even worked dark. 2. Not capitalizing on momentum of guys like Miro, Malakai Black, Eddie Kingston, Keith Lee, Ruby Soho, etc. if you’re gonna get such major reactions from them why aren’t they pushed properly? Miro I can excuse because he was filming tv shows and recovering from injury. But Black was over and instead of challenging for a title he has a faction and is feuding with Death Triangle after like 8 months. Kingston should be TNT champion by now, he beat Jericho clean why is he feuding with him still? Same goes for Keith Lee with the team Taz angle. Even if Ruby Soho wasn’t gonna beat Britt Baker or Jade why is she never on tv? 3. Lack of motivation for major characters. Why is Orange Cassidy lazy? Why is Danhausen weird and hiding under the ring every week cursing people? Why is the House of Black doing the shit they do? Think of the most developed characters in AEW and what they want. Punk wants to be champion after proving he still has it, Danielson, Regal and Mox want to bring violent and gritty wrestling back instead of comedy or flippy wrestling. Wheeler Yuta is a young wrestler who wants to follow a legend and 2 top stars to be a better professional wrestler, FTR want to leave a legacy as the best tag team of all time, The Hardy’s are having one last run in AEW, their last hurrah as a tag team before they finally hang it up, Jade wants to be a megastar and make a lot of money to prove she runs the womens division. Why are there so many guys and girls on the roster but don’t have a clear motivation or goal? Why should I care about them even if they’re a good wrestler?
@al5306
@al5306 2 жыл бұрын
All of these issues can be explained like this: Tony Khan loves signing new talent and isn't interested in his other talent. When a new toy comes along, he forgets about the other ones he has. He doesn't know how to get anyone over or tell a story. He's all about "big announcements" and signing talent.
@jamesedmonds7519
@jamesedmonds7519 2 жыл бұрын
And you enjoy it? Sheesh.
@wallyrosario654
@wallyrosario654 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesedmonds7519 imagine if you saw my problems on a show I hated like 2010-2013 TNA or 2019 raw…
@Jukeboxster
@Jukeboxster 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot a couple of them, Luchasaurous and Jungle Boy. What the hell is a Luchasaurus? How do fans relate to Luchasaurus? How do people relate to Jungle Boy, what's the backstory? Makes aboslutely no sense. Why can't they just trot out a new character called Wrestle-bot? Easy to satisfy that hardcore AEW base, they don't question anything.
@zdelorean88
@zdelorean88 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jukeboxster I would've never bet on a major company having some guy name Jungle Boy on the roster, let alone have a title. I get that was his persona before AEW but its just weird. Dude is a (late) Hollywood actors kid and they let him do the Jungle Boy gimmick?
@TheTalk23
@TheTalk23 2 жыл бұрын
Social media can really ruin a wrestler's career if used wrong. Sadly a lot of wrestlers use it wrong.
@markfroman738
@markfroman738 2 жыл бұрын
Social media in general has been very bad for wrestling.
@davidtodd3401
@davidtodd3401 2 жыл бұрын
Almost all of them use it wrong. They have a tool where they can stay in kayfabe without having to act and instead of using it to build their feuds. Instead, they post photos with their opponents thanking them
@aidyn7758
@aidyn7758 2 жыл бұрын
most wrestlers today don’t actually know how wrestling works beyond just doing the moves
@levicoker8937
@levicoker8937 2 жыл бұрын
Could also be a tool to gain traction if used correctly for example FTR and the Briscoes.
@standardofexcellence
@standardofexcellence 2 жыл бұрын
Should only be used to work your character
@daschwah
@daschwah 2 жыл бұрын
The saddest part about this is that the central issue-and solution-comes down to a single question. What does ANYBODY in AEW want, as far as their motives/ultimate goals go? It’s the bedrock of wrestling as a medium: whether a guy is a street-brawling badass or the son of a plumber, the momentum of the show hinges on us, as fans, knowing what that character wants on a weekly basis. AEW has 4,322 wrestlers and of that, we have consistent reminders that: *Punk wants the title. *Wardlow wants his freedom. *BC Club wants to show the world what violence really is. *FTR is determined to be the best tag team in history. Past that, I seriously can’t come up with a memorable, consistent motivator that’s directed feuds or angles for ANYBODY ELSE, aside from “I want that title this week” or “I have this title and am therefore going to defend it against someone.” You can’t pull for anyone’s success or failure if you can’t connect with them. Guys like Darby and Eddie are absolute mutants in that they can be plugged into any program and the audience is there for it, but for the remaining 94% of the roster, the fact is that you can sub in any wrestler for any other wrestler on most of the matches on ANY show, and it doesn’t remotely impact the narrative. You hire one booker who can address this most basic of issues, and you’ve got a legitimate chance at challenging the WWE. It costs nothing but admitting that you need help, and if Toybox Tony doesn’t pull his head out of his ass, this lack of coherent and consistent product is going to collapse in on itself. Which I don’t want to happen. But goddamn, is it hard to be optimistic as a wrestling fan, these days.
@bipolarminddroppings
@bipolarminddroppings 2 жыл бұрын
Kenny wants to be a dressage pony. The Bucks want to bury every other tagteam. Sammy wants to fuck his girlfriend.
@diluted8
@diluted8 2 жыл бұрын
Give me a big fat paycheck and Anna Jay and I'll die a happy man
@imneveruploadinghere7180
@imneveruploadinghere7180 2 жыл бұрын
@@diluted8 I'll take half the money you will if they give me Hayter
@anthonyrousseau8050
@anthonyrousseau8050 2 жыл бұрын
Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. It's fitting that Tony would follow Bischoff's footsteps and build a grave out of his own pride. But like you, I hope someone can call him out on this before it's too late.
@tatsumaru12345
@tatsumaru12345 2 жыл бұрын
Biggest problem is the main title picture, all the way back to Jericho. The champs aint even there every week, even for a couple minute segment. So why care? Jerichos reign went wayy too long. You barely saw Mox. Omega had more bad promos than matches. Now Hangman is burned out with too many Cole matches. Hangman needs to open most shows as champ, cowboy Doo Doo chants. Being a beer drinking badarse everyman. He's got covid now, but even before. He's barely on screen. That said, Punk vs Mjf is probably the best build for a long while. One of them should've been champ!
@johnroush1099
@johnroush1099 2 жыл бұрын
Top 5 Problems: 5) Not developing motivations for their mid carders. They just have random matches or prolonged/fractured feuds for months on end with little development. 4) Stubborn refusal to showcase more than one womens division angle in the ring each week. 3) Having a lackluster womens division altogether. There are only 2 female stars in that whole company (which might be one of the reasons for #4). 2) Excessive use of performative/acrobatic/choreographed maneuvers. It is completely unnecessary. FTR, Jericho, Kingston, Punk, MJF, Wardlow, and many of their other wrestlers who are over with the crowd don't need this. It hurts the product when your undercard/midcard needs to do electric chair somersault destroyers as transition moves, just to make the crowd excited. 1) Relegating big name acquisitions immediately to the midcard. One of the best parts about the WCW/WWF rivalry were the debuts and defections. If every star that hops over (with a few exceptions like Danielson and Mox) is just tag teaming on Rampage a week later, it sucks all the excitement out of one of your biggest tools for attracting new eyeballs.
@yungchunks6931
@yungchunks6931 2 жыл бұрын
Fr like where's Jeff Hardy at
@johnroush1099
@johnroush1099 2 жыл бұрын
@@yungchunks6931 no joke I heard he was on their KZfaq show. Jeff freaking Hardy was on their KZfaq show. A guy who is still capable of main event potential, even if he's on the back end of his career.
@ecymbura31
@ecymbura31 2 жыл бұрын
I would also add Tony not realizing all this stuff. He thinks AEW is flawless and can’t seem to take constructive criticism at all. Big mistake for a huge company to not acknowledge the wit shortcomings. Gotta change some things when everyone is pointing them out
@Harry-sc1xk
@Harry-sc1xk 2 жыл бұрын
Lets be honest, the less womens wrestling on the show the better. 4 and 3 are not problems.
@darrenwalker257
@darrenwalker257 2 жыл бұрын
A big mistake in the women's division they made was on day 1. In 2019 not turn up at impact offer a boatload of money to buy Tessa blanchard out of her contract. 6 months later on twitter all the controversial tweets came out. AEW did not have a star female at the start. Tessa was miles the best female wrestler outside of WWE. And probably those tweets never come out if was in AEW.not tweeted let's be postive because going to win.a.mens World championship.
@dilkry
@dilkry 2 жыл бұрын
There is a difference between long-term storytelling and a meandering storyline because no one knows where it is going or how to send it. AEW does much more of the latter than the former.
@peterlee6374
@peterlee6374 2 жыл бұрын
B b but but hangman omega was a three year storyline…… Yeah and what happened during it?? Next to fuck all B b but but team tazz v Darby/sting was 10 months long Yeah what happened?? Sting got interrupted in a promo for 8 week straight for team tazz to say nothing of note and then three weeks to go realise there’s a ppv coming and rush about 20 angles into it for no reason to make up for it Aew doesn’t realise you need 1 or 2 longer term storyline while everyone else is in shorter 4/5/6 week explosive programs and importantly not everyone needs to have hardcore matches every week
@RBRSC
@RBRSC 2 жыл бұрын
The Hardy/Andrade cluster F office is probably the king of this. Like it started by Matt Hardy turning heel by cheating Private Party. Which should've moved on into a Wardlow/MJF esque angle with them grudgingly helping him then breaking free. And he picked up TH2 to be the new golden boys who could feud as the proxy heel because Matt even as a wrestler can't be doing 1v2 on a face Private Party. Then for some reason Butcher and Blade get added, seemingly completely dropping their already vaguely defined gimmick to do so. They added Jora in a Dark-only storyline. Private PArty inexplicably just ended up going heel anyways for real. The entire stable feuds with the Best Friends for literal months becaue Blade cheated in a match once with Orange Cassidy or whatever it was (again, why is the stable direction being determined by one of the random hired guns and not the leader) Andrade joined on because ?????. Then because they have no patience, they turned Matt face again out of nowhere to have Jeff save him. EVen that last part, the obvious way to do go would be have Jeff feud Andrade (which is reasonably big money and a draw match), then Andrade has the goons beatdown Jeff and Matt turns to help his brother.
@joshuabishop5980
@joshuabishop5980 2 жыл бұрын
Great points.
@pendafen7405
@pendafen7405 2 жыл бұрын
People downcry CHIKARA, but no-one's ever executed directed longterm storytelling like them. To a lesser extent, ROH back in the day also had some strong and well-plotted long terms arcs play out. Maybe AEW need to study their tapes.
@dranzerjetli5126
@dranzerjetli5126 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@FockUimOUT
@FockUimOUT 2 жыл бұрын
I tried to get into AEW but there was nothing to bring me back week to week. I'm currently kind of over the fact it seems like a "major announcement" ploy... nevermind the women's division... or lack there of.... 🤷
@calinmarian98
@calinmarian98 2 жыл бұрын
To get into aew and the storylines there,you need to watch bte on mondays
@joeyskywalker1322
@joeyskywalker1322 2 жыл бұрын
@@calinmarian98 That’s the problem with AEW you shouldn’t have to watch a KZfaq show to understand what’s going on in the television show
@calinmarian98
@calinmarian98 2 жыл бұрын
@@joeyskywalker1322 The Bucks and their cronies put the storylines there
@chembiz
@chembiz 2 жыл бұрын
@@joeyskywalker1322 That's the reason I gave up. If the idea (business model) of using BTE to further TV storylines worked it would've worked already. It's been 2 years, obviously it's not working and they refuse to admit and make changes. *shocked face*
@Matthew-mf6xg
@Matthew-mf6xg 2 жыл бұрын
I only eatch Dynamite and can barely get into it. Jim nailed everything wrong with AEW. I don't know half of what's going on because I don't get on the internet and research every little bit.
@cowboyquebecanimations3068
@cowboyquebecanimations3068 2 жыл бұрын
It's sad that when Khan thinks he's trying to be the next McMahon only to be the next Herb Abrams
@tonyh1718
@tonyh1718 2 жыл бұрын
How big did abrams get again?
@allgelliebeaneverything1247
@allgelliebeaneverything1247 2 жыл бұрын
Damn lol
@florida_guy03
@florida_guy03 2 жыл бұрын
Good statement. We all know how that ended
@carloscjr23
@carloscjr23 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing he is getting from Mr. McMahon is his delusion into thinking he is the best and has the Midas touch. The thing is, McMahon has some receipts to prove he has done stuff right.
@UFCWWE69
@UFCWWE69 2 жыл бұрын
Dixie had a better product at one time and she knows little to nothing about anything
@constablekennedy7705
@constablekennedy7705 2 жыл бұрын
Tony Khan Consistently using ‘Major Announcements’ as a Booking Crutch?!…. 👀
@actuallynotsteve
@actuallynotsteve 2 жыл бұрын
Every week he's got a major announcement
@Donald_Allan
@Donald_Allan 2 жыл бұрын
Tony Khan has just made a major announcement where he mentioned that he will be making another major announcement on this week's episode of Dynamite. The major announcement is that he will be making a further major announcement on the following week's episode of Dynamite. Guess what will happen after that? He will then tease that he will be making yet another major announcement.
@constablekennedy7705
@constablekennedy7705 2 жыл бұрын
@@actuallynotsteve 💯
@constablekennedy7705
@constablekennedy7705 2 жыл бұрын
@@Donald_Allan 💀
@guardian7568
@guardian7568 2 жыл бұрын
I said that in the comments I think around the time swerve debuted…he use all these announcements and bullshit new signings for cheap pops
@tysonsutton9621
@tysonsutton9621 2 жыл бұрын
In the book "The Death of WCW," they pointed out an episode of "WCW Nitro" in April or May 2000 where every match on the show had a stipulation attached, and I think about that every time I watch AEW. It feels like they attach stipulations to EVERYTHING, and it lessens the impact of what could be quality matches if you just let the wrestlers go out and do what they are capable of. Fans do not need every match to be contested under "Philly Street Fight Death Coffin Thumbtack Barbed Wire Electrified Cage Last Man Standing" rules.
@MarsofAritia
@MarsofAritia 2 жыл бұрын
looking through the cards, i think it's the 15/5/00 one, though the surrounding ones have an insane amount of gimmicks wow lol Sting v Vampiro - House of pain match Kronik v the franchise and the wall - tag title match Terry funk v the filthy animals - 3 v 1 handicap for the hardcore title Crowbar & Daffney v Chris Candido & Tammy - mixed tag for the cruiserweight title (Daffney wins it of course lol) Elizabeth v Madusa - house of pain match Kevin Nash v Mike Awesome - ambulance match Horace Hogan v Billy Kidman v Hulk Hogan - three way dance? Ric Flair v Jeff Jarret - WCW title match best part are all of them are 5 minutes or less lol
@thejanglezclan
@thejanglezclan 2 жыл бұрын
This is like Tony Khan with his "huge announcements." If every announcement is huge, then no announcement is huge.
@takermag
@takermag 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed they have had way to many ladder matches if U have to many gimmick matches to often they get stale and ya get bored real quick these sort of matches should be done less so it stays fresh sometimes less is more
@christopheriverson7103
@christopheriverson7103 2 жыл бұрын
@@MarsofAritia: and i bet that episode of nitro got like a 2.3 rating....
@MarsofAritia
@MarsofAritia 2 жыл бұрын
@@christopheriverson7103 apparently it got a 3.2 somehow lol
@garrypark1119
@garrypark1119 2 жыл бұрын
The number of seriously noticeable botches that keep happening, not little things (although they are frequent) but those major spots and suicide dives. I'm surprised no one has suffered a career ending injury yet and its already come close several times this year. Makes AEW look sloppy and unrehearsed with little regard for the safety of their wrestlers and its all for the sake of short lived "holy sh*t" chants from the crowd and KZfaq clips.
@KaliBeatsYoSoyAquel
@KaliBeatsYoSoyAquel 2 жыл бұрын
It's too much, and not in a fun way. If anybody ends up dying in the ring that'll be the end of an era and "holy shit" yeah, holy shit how can no one stop that and be normal about it? This isn't the 90's, Owen hart's image and legacy remained clean thanks to the 90's lack of phones and portable cameras
@markfroman738
@markfroman738 2 жыл бұрын
Tony is maxing out all his wrestlers’ bump cards.
@CulEdz
@CulEdz 2 жыл бұрын
It’s because AEW wrestlers think that doing these crazy moves over and over, crazier than the previous moves, makes them a good wrestler. And now even the fans have picked up on the same mentality and now the more outlandish moves you do, the better worker you are. There’s a reason why Austin passing out in the Sharpshooter is more memorable than whatever flippy shit AEW wrestlers do. Bet Austin nor Bret sacrificed anything to do that spot.
@ZAktheRipper357
@ZAktheRipper357 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree little regard but revisit wwe hell in a cell and those tlc matches. Those spots were extremely dangerous as well. AEW is doing what WWF did in early 00’s
@lsj6721
@lsj6721 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZAktheRipper357 you point out once-in-a-while stipulation matches against weekly shows? HAHAHAHAHAHA Not to mention, even the hell in a matches are very much watered down these days
@mikemathias1562
@mikemathias1562 2 жыл бұрын
Im starting more and more to fear that Tony will make AEW be like the Jacksonville Jaguars... a horrible thing
@setofreakingkaiba9313
@setofreakingkaiba9313 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget fullham....
@mikemathias1562
@mikemathias1562 2 жыл бұрын
@@setofreakingkaiba9313 true. But at least theyre getting up again
@setofreakingkaiba9313
@setofreakingkaiba9313 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikemathias1562 Fulham are kinda like aew's viewership ratings whenever they go up they go straight back down.....
@ichneumon2776
@ichneumon2776 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest mistake of AEW : Who are the two top guys? Everytime in history every big promotion had two money drawing names, there can be multiple top guys but only two Superstars. Who are their Rock-Austin? Flair-Dusty? Hogan-Andre? Even recently Cena-Batista? Angle-Triple H? Eddie-Benoit? Lesnar-Roman?
@Jukeboxster
@Jukeboxster 2 жыл бұрын
Punk/MJF. They have the guys, they just haven't been positioned as top guys, though that seems to be changing with Punk. It's absolute negligience that MJF hasn't held a major title at this point though.
@yxeaviationphotog
@yxeaviationphotog 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jukeboxster MJF mentioned that he and Punk will cross paths again....has talked about becoming AEW Champion....and Punk is on the cusp of becoming champ. I think that's going to build to MJF taking the belt off Punk at some point. That, and MJF is such a draw already that they don't have to out a title on him to make him a huge draw. Personally, I think he needs to be the next TNT Champ after Scorpio has a decent run.
@Jukeboxster
@Jukeboxster 2 жыл бұрын
@@yxeaviationphotog "MJF is such a draw already that they don't have to out a title on him to make him a huge draw.".....this is a popular thought and I think it's the entire problem, maybe the way TK looks at it as well. You don't give the title to someone to get them over or make them a draw, you give the title to someone who's already over. The wrestler is supposed to get the title over, not the other way around. If we stuck with this idea that the title should only go to people who "need it" then Stone Cold, Hogan, Ric Flair, Cena, the Rock would never have been champion. All of them were among the most popular guys in the company *before* they won the title. The issue with giving it to someone who needs it is what happens when they don't live up to expectations? it tarnishes the title, which is precisely what's happening to Hangman and the AEW championship.
@UnexpectedDanger
@UnexpectedDanger 2 жыл бұрын
You're used to WWE having two guys shoved down our throats for 10 years straight. Go watch that if it's what you like
@Jukeboxster
@Jukeboxster 2 жыл бұрын
@@UnexpectedDanger well people will go back to WWE if AEW doesn't start growing the product, they start hemorraging money and then have to close the doors like a lot of other promotions in the past. People want AEW to do better but that doesn't mean they're above criticism.
@Jukeboxster
@Jukeboxster 2 жыл бұрын
I think most of AEW's problems can be boiled down to trying to feed too many mouths and catering to the hardcore fanbase. Way too many factions with way too many unimportant wrestlers. There are a few performers that should be getting far more time and a lot of wrestlers that should be relegated to AEW Dark, the fans that want to see them will find them. TV should be for the talent that has more widespread appeal.
@joshuabishop5980
@joshuabishop5980 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully in the coming years/years when talent contracts come up. This will fix itself.
@Ramekink
@Ramekink 2 жыл бұрын
Punk and Danielson are more than 1 or 2 tiers above everybody else and its been way too noticeable for months now. Even their indie god Memega and their garbage deathmatch outlaw "legend" Mox look minor league when put side by side with them. And they just cant handle that truth; that the indie scene stopped being a pool of endless talent after ROH started their downfall and that all that other cosplay vidogame BS thing they call "wrestling" is nothing but glorified cheerleading routines. PWG, Chikara, and post-NY era ROH is trash compared with the 2000s-2010s
@dranzerjetli5126
@dranzerjetli5126 2 жыл бұрын
Catering to the hardcore smarks is the biggest mistake a company can do cos those smarks will get old in 20 yrs and now they no longer have new fans similar problem that plagues NXT
@dranzerjetli5126
@dranzerjetli5126 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ramekink agreed punk, bryan seems a step above most men in terms of wrestling
@metallicbigtoe3949
@metallicbigtoe3949 2 жыл бұрын
I always love how Brian comments that emails or reports are badly written when the reality is, he cannot fucking read 😂
@KentaObscuro
@KentaObscuro 2 жыл бұрын
Charlie from Philadelphia
@Chops_4114
@Chops_4114 2 жыл бұрын
Lol did you not hear the email that English was butchered...and bladed... oooo see what i did there!?!?!
@metallicbigtoe3949
@metallicbigtoe3949 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chops_4114 I'm willing to bet that if we had the same email in front of us there would be no errors in it, Brian trips over himself while reading out loud, all the time lol
@daniellereilly
@daniellereilly 2 жыл бұрын
There's a longer list probably but I can give a couple of things to add: (1.) Former WWE stars coming assuming they'll get somewhere in AEW but only to regulated to Dark/Dark Elevation and to be in the same position that were in the WWE. (2.) Claiming to professionally athletic but making very piss poor botches and getting seriously injured just by doing those dumb spots.
@jwolf2254
@jwolf2254 2 жыл бұрын
Signing new talent and taking ur time to push them is not a bad thing. That’s honestly a stupid point and every company has botched and mistakes atleast they aren’t breaking any necks
@dueceybaby8023
@dueceybaby8023 2 жыл бұрын
The first one sounds like Tony Nese 😂
@drg5352
@drg5352 2 жыл бұрын
@@jwolf2254 Ricky Starks has entered the chat...
@jwolf2254
@jwolf2254 2 жыл бұрын
@@drg5352 to be honest completely forgot about that but it def wasn’t as severe as big e
@segagenesis7708
@segagenesis7708 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with Jim. They literally have Moxley, Danielson AND Punk. And still struggled to maintain 1m viewers for their main show, on a Wednesday Night with little to no competition.
@Chaz4543
@Chaz4543 2 жыл бұрын
Moxley, Danielson and Punk arent stars. They are PG era WWE stars and many old WWE fans stopped watching by that time. PG Era WWE was the start of the decline of mainstream popularity for pro wrestling.
@Alex-cs7pg
@Alex-cs7pg 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chaz4543 agreed 100 percent
@mrbadguysan
@mrbadguysan 2 жыл бұрын
@@joegreene7619 tomato cans.
@mrbadguysan
@mrbadguysan 2 жыл бұрын
@@joegreene7619 I don’t think those losses were that detrimental. He was too old to get into the sport when he did, and other wrestlers have made great strides.
@kamikoto1558
@kamikoto1558 2 жыл бұрын
@@joegreene7619 moxley was always popular. Everyone wanted him to be the guy pushed in the shield
@mikem10481
@mikem10481 2 жыл бұрын
AEW have simply plateaued and it will take something incredibly major for their interest to increase. Plus it didn't help when they make all these major announcements and they fall short of expectations.
@SuperNitroZ64
@SuperNitroZ64 2 жыл бұрын
@@locustjohn3865 maybe they'd rather have that group than anything else.
@Sansri16761
@Sansri16761 2 жыл бұрын
They had a chance to skyrocket with Punk and Bryan and they cooled those two faster than the Young Bucks change their Twitter bios. This match for the title should've honestly happened the moment he returned.
@ecymbura31
@ecymbura31 2 жыл бұрын
Tony is in another world he’s a lot like Vince McMahon but somehow worse. At least Vince will realize when he’s made a mistake but Tony thinks AEW is perfect and has no flaws and believes everything that happens there is groundbreaking. Tony seems like a super nice guy but he’s catering to a fan base who like watching wrestling in high school gyms when he should be trying to attract fans who sell out wresltemania. This indie garbage will never make them huge. It’s bad when there are so many wrestling legends on KZfaq or on their podcasts bashing everything AEW does because it’s such an embarrassment to the business. AEW can be good at times but the bad outweighs the good. It’s not like WCW was in the 90s where it gave us a totally different type of product that seemed real and unpredictable
@vishnu4951
@vishnu4951 2 жыл бұрын
@@locustjohn3865 11
@vishnu4951
@vishnu4951 2 жыл бұрын
@@locustjohn3865 11
@nonrefundablegaming275
@nonrefundablegaming275 2 жыл бұрын
I love that Brian and Jim can hear the deafening noise of trucks in the background but we don't
@johnthebomb06
@johnthebomb06 2 жыл бұрын
Must have some good audio equipment
@nonrefundablegaming275
@nonrefundablegaming275 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnthebomb06 LMAO right!
@JustMe-yu6uu
@JustMe-yu6uu Жыл бұрын
You can be my John G
@PapaTaurean
@PapaTaurean 2 жыл бұрын
"Wheel of stupidity, turn turn turn... tell us the lesson that we should learn..."
@XMegaJuni
@XMegaJuni 2 жыл бұрын
I forgot they got Ruby Soho, ... I don't know why that one sticks out from all the debuts. I think its because it become like the NXT main roster call up.
@mikemcdonald1999
@mikemcdonald1999 2 жыл бұрын
Not just Ruby but a piece of what Jim said is spot on. They've gotten some great, name acquisitions. And due to the rotating scheduling it seems no one has time to get comfortable. Ruby sticks out as she works a particular style. So when faced with an opponent that works their own style it tends to clash.
@speakingmoistly9912
@speakingmoistly9912 2 жыл бұрын
Nailed it with the comment “if you’re not telling them (the audience) in your two fucking hours, don’t expect them to know!” So true.
@peterlee6374
@peterlee6374 2 жыл бұрын
What you mean you aren’t committed to watching and knowing all the history of njpw impact ROH gcw wwe twitter countless KZfaq blogs, instagram just to watch dynamite?? Tut tut and you Call yourself a real fan!!!
@gregorycostello6377
@gregorycostello6377 2 жыл бұрын
@@peterlee6374 yeah i'm just a wwe dude that was excited about aew, but the o my god it's fuckin butcher and the blade or my god that dr death....it gets old i don't care. these new people coming in its its its switch blade. whooooooooo like some guy whos 40 with a wife and kid and career knows these dudes and i'm supposed to go nuts. Nah my viewing of aew has considerably gone down since the last ppv.....which was good. But literraly their are no fucking story lines besides mjf and wardlow. Punk going for the title ....where the fuck is adam page. Aew has become neck beard fans only club
@tubbymontana7090
@tubbymontana7090 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that evil uno and the dark order are still employed is the biggest mistake of all
@sprunnel
@sprunnel 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing dark about that order especially when you hear uno talk. Just a regular joe in a mask. Pointless waste of what was started with Jon
@aidyn7758
@aidyn7758 2 жыл бұрын
@@sprunnel what a waste of a name lol, “dark order” sounds sinister af and then you see them and just laugh
@adamandanna
@adamandanna 2 жыл бұрын
agreed, I would cut some and maybe repackage some of the younger guys they think have potential but its run it's course. Its like Orange cassidy yeah mildly amusing but now the joke is old, he isn;t growing as a worker or character. Al snow didn;t always use head, Foley didn;t always do the socko thing. They really need to look at who is worth keeping around and cut the rest. I understand wanting to employ people during the pandemic but you bought ring of honor but have no idea what do with it,
@TheOldMPClub
@TheOldMPClub 2 жыл бұрын
I mean you could have tried to fade Uno and Stu back to gimmicks they did that were actually funny for comedy. But you're not allowed to have a real gimmick in AEW. Just a barebones version of it.
@tubbymontana7090
@tubbymontana7090 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOldMPClub that’s not his real gimmick ?! You’re telling me there’s an even worse version of that his ability to cut a promo or have a good match is bare bones I don’t think that guy could ever be taken seriously I still have nightmares of that lame attack segment on the bucks
@ericsmith3936
@ericsmith3936 2 жыл бұрын
#1 definitely bothered me alot. Battle of the Belts sounds like a pseudo PPV and they were both dogshit. Not having the world title defended on that show is a joke. It was defended less than a week prior for both shows.
@wallyrosario654
@wallyrosario654 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a glorified dark taping with 3 title matches on tv that don’t matter
@joshuabishop5980
@joshuabishop5980 2 жыл бұрын
Truth
@TheSportsfan35
@TheSportsfan35 2 жыл бұрын
@Eric Smith, The original Battle Of the Belts shows back in the 80's were basically shows where champs of the different territories worked on the shows, which were popular & alot of fun & was the precursor to Clash Of Champions whereas Khan's version of BOB is basically glorified house shows
@drillosophy1012
@drillosophy1012 Жыл бұрын
5 months later, we’ve come to find that this list didn’t even scratch the surface of AEW’s biggest mistakes.
@ShaneTumminello
@ShaneTumminello 2 жыл бұрын
The Khan family has a lot of money but they don’t have what it takes to be great in any of their endeavors
@actuallynotsteve
@actuallynotsteve 2 жыл бұрын
You mean Fulham FC and the Jaguars aren't stacking championships?
@alexdelarge703
@alexdelarge703 2 жыл бұрын
@@actuallynotsteve Blake Bortles, my guy
@MarsofAritia
@MarsofAritia 2 жыл бұрын
@@actuallynotsteve hey, fulham just won the division 2 championship, premier league here we come lol
@creel999
@creel999 2 жыл бұрын
@@MarsofAritia 12months bye you go 😂
@DXCenaWWE4life
@DXCenaWWE4life 2 жыл бұрын
You could write a whole Book on the mistakes AEW has made beginning from May 25th 2019 to now.
@anthonyrousseau8050
@anthonyrousseau8050 2 жыл бұрын
What would you call it? "The Living Death of AEW"?
@DXCenaWWE4life
@DXCenaWWE4life 2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyrousseau8050 sure why not
@henriklarssen1331
@henriklarssen1331 2 жыл бұрын
Your name alone says everything about your IQ level, holy shit.
@genosynca
@genosynca 2 жыл бұрын
Signing Jake Hager should be the first one
@elcaballero6104
@elcaballero6104 2 жыл бұрын
My biggest complaint, no real Stardom/Standouts among the crowd everyone feels the same.
@arredondo1990
@arredondo1990 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree. Was thinking the same thing for awhile.
@loihpatli
@loihpatli 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of blood, it seems like Adam Page is always should bleed in his title match before he gets the win. It reminds me of Van Damme movies where the he gets his win over opponent only after he gets beaten almost to death.
@firewatch814
@firewatch814 2 жыл бұрын
11:22 Jims reaction to aew story telling is priceless.🤣
@wloffblizz
@wloffblizz 2 жыл бұрын
This whole "AEW is good at long-term storytelling" thing is so mind-boggling. It's just something people on the internet have repeated to each other so many times I guess they genuinely believe it, even though to anyone who just opens their eyes and looks at the show, it's IMMEDIATELY obvious that "long-term storytelling" is the SINGLE BIGGEST FLAW in AEW, and has always been. But because they've repeated that lie to themselves so many times they all actually believe it, even critique pieces like this one have to add these disclaimers like "AEW is really good at long-term storytelling, but..." In AEW, there's one match today, another match 10 months from now, and fans will point at it and go "a-ha! That's fantastic long-term storytelling, you see how the events from that one match ten months ago led to this point!" No, that's not "long-term storytelling", it's "long-term story imagining". *Storytelling*, not just in wrestling but any form of storytelling, would be, you know, the actions and events on screen leading from one story beat to the next, and you being able to follow that story just by watching the show, with everything making sense from one week to the next. In AEW, the only way their storylines can possibly make sense is if you go online and have other fans explain you what the story was supposedly about. That's not fucking storytelling, and it drives me insane how everyone on the internet pretends like it is.
@teecakes
@teecakes 2 жыл бұрын
Also right before that Jim's reaction to Brian mentioning Deeb vs Shida in a Philly Street Fight LMAO 10:27
@amitversion2
@amitversion2 2 жыл бұрын
@@wloffblizz It's like a cognitive dissonance with AEW fans. They have to be loyal to *their* wrestling no matter what, so calling out legitimate flaws is like heresy.
@dionius4549
@dionius4549 2 жыл бұрын
@@wloffblizz I couldnt be more agree
@ChiGuy251
@ChiGuy251 2 жыл бұрын
yeah AEW fans think a few loosely connected interactions at best or a call back equals long term story telling lol
@gregpackman9833
@gregpackman9833 2 жыл бұрын
funny that during the segment on turning out the lights, youtube jumped straight to a commercial for me!!
@nssatomic
@nssatomic 2 жыл бұрын
So what happens when the interim champion is sick? Will there be an interim interim champion?
@jazzygeofferz
@jazzygeofferz 2 жыл бұрын
Look at the situation with the Ring of Honor women's title. Why crow an interim champion because your champion is unavailable for one show? Why couldn't they have had a number 1 contender's match at the Supershow, with the winner getting a shot at Deonna Purazzo at a later date? No, Tony Khan has to have an interim champion. Presumably that's why they did the TNT title change this past week, to avoid having to crown another interim TNT champion in case Sammy Guevara is out for a while after he botched his big somersault spot and injured himself.
@al5306
@al5306 2 жыл бұрын
AEW gets a LOT of charity. WWE doesn't use talent for a long time and they're crucified for it. AEW doesn't use talent for a long time and it gets a special PC name "conveyer belt system." AEW is signing too much talent and ignoring everyone else. Tony is the kid who ignores his old toys when he gets new ones and he gets new ones all the time. WWE starts a storyline, stops it, and comes back to it later and they're raked over the coals. AEW starts a storyline, stops it, and comes back to it later and it's called "long term booking" and the internet crows about it.
@tripvic7629
@tripvic7629 2 жыл бұрын
Lio Rush should have made the roulette
@rollingthunder8223
@rollingthunder8223 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't there long enough
@rofbagging9749
@rofbagging9749 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I appreciate Tony Khan, I really think it’s going to become public one day how extensive of a drug issue he has. No way that guy is using natural substances
@beerus101
@beerus101 2 жыл бұрын
The trajectory cant constantly be up, so I think its natural for some levelling off. Personally I think its time for Punk, Danielson, or MJF to make a run at the belt. Hangman coming back and winning it WAS great. But the feud with Cole and all the dumb death matches took the air out of the balloon.
@trahapace150
@trahapace150 2 жыл бұрын
There hasn't been any upward trajectory....at all....
@davidtodd3401
@davidtodd3401 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing about Hangman has been great. Midcarder at best. The title should be held by Punk, chased by Danielson and MJF. Give your best talent the belt. How hard is that?
@Kas58223
@Kas58223 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidtodd3401 it’s not hard remotely I never saw the appeal to Adam Page he came of as the low budget cowboy James Storm
@sidrat2009
@sidrat2009 2 жыл бұрын
That is great artwork from the Heckel. I listen to the full audio podcast. I could listen again on KZfaq when it's historical I guess, maybe 18 months or longer.
@thejanglezclan
@thejanglezclan 2 жыл бұрын
The AEW fans have doubled-down on defending the notion that Tony Khan is only catering to the hardcores. "What's wrong with wanting to please your fan base?" they say. There's no way they think AEW can thrive this way. We've already seen that the ratings aren't sustainable this way either.
@vinylbuff1515
@vinylbuff1515 2 жыл бұрын
AEW hasn’t hooked me as a casual fan. I don’t care about the indie/ japan garbage wrestling matches. I watch for Punk/ Bryan Danielson and FTR, the rest is meh
@jasonlewis9240
@jasonlewis9240 2 жыл бұрын
@@vinylbuff1515 as a casual fan what’s your reaction to Hangman?? U think they should’ve made Bryan champion??
@vinylbuff1515
@vinylbuff1515 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonlewis9240 I don’t think Hangmans lackluster title reign is his fault, I like the guy but nothing hes done recently makes me feel like hes THE top star of the company. Bryan can’t be champ atm cause hes with Moxley and Yuta. I just need something from Hangman to get me invested in him
@henriklarssen1331
@henriklarssen1331 2 жыл бұрын
@@vinylbuff1515 Ah yes the good old casual fan who watches youtube channels about wrestling. oh dear...
@vinylbuff1515
@vinylbuff1515 2 жыл бұрын
@@henriklarssen1331 Casual Fan of AEW, I have zero idea who or what Danhausen is or supposed to be
@ADAMdinho1
@ADAMdinho1 2 жыл бұрын
That roulette has me dead 💀🤣🤣
@mrreddington777
@mrreddington777 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll be honest but I absolutely loved AEW when it first started. I wasn’t watching wrestling at all and bam all of these new wrestlers (to me) were so fresh to see. Now it’s actually become worse than WWE because at least WWE knows how to make good heels and great babyfaces. Aew is just a mishmash of everything. Way too many tables and chair spots. Babyfaces that suck as champions. Too much Jericho and his terrible gimmick.
@horgh_japan
@horgh_japan 2 жыл бұрын
The WWE are great at booking heels. Rusev/Lana were awesome until Cena destroyed them. Lashley/Hurt Business was a match made in heaven. Reigns has never been as big as after his heel turn. Yet the WWE haven't been able to keep themselves from turning their legit popular faces outside of the New Day who are printing merch money machines. Furthermore, the WWE has shown to be rather pigheaded in its determination to get fans to follow their plans. Fans WANT to cheer Becky, but the WWE doesn't know what to do as it was heel Becky persona that got her to become The Man and they know how they pissed away the incredible good will and head of steam face Rollins had post-Brock with the Fiend stuff and plain old over-exposure. Do we let faces be faces *our way* and see the fans inevitably turn on them so we can create great heels or do we let faces be faces *their way* and see where things go? The WWE has only one answer. The current lack of main event caliber faces and opponents for Reigns shows that the WWE simply can't do faces.
@MrRBX
@MrRBX 2 жыл бұрын
WWE knows how to make good heels and babyfaces 😂😂😂
@daniellereilly
@daniellereilly 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that everyone now belongs to a stable. There's like so many of them that I lost count of who's there.
@standardofexcellence
@standardofexcellence 2 жыл бұрын
Wwe couldn't book a face nowdays if there masonic lifes depended on it, which of course because the aforementioned thing exists they don't and for the heels half of them are because they become stale or overpushed
@henriklarssen1331
@henriklarssen1331 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah you are lying.
@Julian-xj6mh
@Julian-xj6mh 2 жыл бұрын
Only 33 minutes? I thought this would be an omnibus
@larryjones4096
@larryjones4096 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still mildly befuddled as to the nature of everyone's surprise at this, considering the lack of background experience on the part of the owner.It takes personal time spent in this craft to have that inner instinct for what's necessary and what will and will not pay off.Gives me more respect for the giants of my time like Eddie Graham,Bill Watts,Paul Boesch,JerryJarrett who made the most with not as much as they have today even if it wasn't always easy.
@sprunnel
@sprunnel 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. On board with this comment. Too much aimed at wwe, trying to be a wrestling alternative. But you can't compete with a juggernaut even of you have money. Its ran by excited people with no experience, in a wrestling landscape with a lack of top talent. Even wwe only have a handful of megastar. It's just saturated with friends and indy wrestlers hoping they are on the way to the big time. The promotion needs to slow down, do less shows and focus on story's and building talent.
@natebaxter9551
@natebaxter9551 2 жыл бұрын
@@sprunnel it'll be hard for them to do less shows. They only run one day a week.
@gogomarioloshi
@gogomarioloshi 2 жыл бұрын
Also the promotion has no direction and feels like WWE 2.0. We will have orange Cassidy step in front of his friends and go up to a 7ft something giant that just debuted and do the fake slow kicks and then in the same segment, 10 seconds later, we will see security try to pry Samoa Joe and Jay Lethal away from each other when we are being told they have a lot of history together. What is the fucking tone? We see shit that looks like it would be for kids, but then there's people calling each other assholes and wastes of space. There's people sending people into a ladders with a powerbombs and you have people using 360 thunder laser category 5 fire bombers on each other. You have matches that are closer to classic wrestling and then you have spot fests where people get send hurling into the top turnbuckle and they get up in 5 seconds.
@adamandanna
@adamandanna 2 жыл бұрын
@@gogomarioloshi agreed, the this singh giant is very green but way to make him look like a joke by having to sell for Orange cassidy, You want to make a monster you don't have him interact with comedy acts unless he is going to mow them over
@gogomarioloshi
@gogomarioloshi 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamandanna the crazy thing is that orange got blasted but by someone that wasn't the giant that just debuted 🤣🤣. So the guy is already fucking buried because he didn't beat up the comedy character that didn't really need to interfere in the first place and then instead of attacking the guy he dominated a week or two ago, he fucking tosses a mid carder into steps. And not like a crazy toss. Just the push into the steps spot. Security got into the ring and everything. What type of shit was this? Imagine if i was a new guy on the block and I jumped you with some homeboys and I was the main one decimating you. Next week i pull up with my gang AGAIN, and someone steps up to me gets blasted by another guy and then i grab a guy lost in the shuffle and shove him down. My homeboy then comes over to you and yall start scraping but I'm a nonfactor in that and the police come before I can even land a breath on you. Yea the new guy on the block looking real good right now. Fuck the block, I'm a city level threat after that.
@Five0h4rFinest
@Five0h4rFinest 2 жыл бұрын
What I have observed with AEW is that they are young; for all the praise they have received for great moments and quality matches, they deserve accountability for their f**k-ups. At some point in time, TK needs to start taking the criticism and learn from it. Plus, actually applying franchise players... because if Britt Baker and MJF are suppose to be the future, why are they being misrepresented? And the titles aren't being treated with the reverence it deserves.
@YoursAnonymously
@YoursAnonymously 2 жыл бұрын
Their continuous mishandling of the women's division continues to agitate me. You have GREAT female talent in Rosa, Shida, Deeb, Jamie, and now Toni, hidden gems like Anna Jay, a star like Britt, and you still cannot generate interest in their matches, or make any compelling storylines for them. Britt was losing steam towards the end, Rosa has been Champ for a few weeks, and they've already made her look like a goof, Shida and Deeb had an inconsistent, on-and-off feud, and the best female star they have is Jade, who SHOULD be the Women's World Champion, but instead holds a meaningless title where she beats jobbers. They should have the best women's wrestling in the world next to Stardom and WWE, but they're embarrassing.
@MrSniperfox29
@MrSniperfox29 2 жыл бұрын
Jade is not a star (yet) and is still as green as her name suggests. She shouldn't be near the top title of the division
@420benton2
@420benton2 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Tony he hasn't a clue what he doing.
@randyruger9063
@randyruger9063 2 жыл бұрын
They have more factions and stables than late era WCW.
@christopheriverson7103
@christopheriverson7103 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh.... Wcw factions.....filthy animals, new blood, natural born thrillers, kronic, magnificent seven, team canda, Yung dragons, jeresey triad,......so i feel where your coming from fam😅...
@jinmochizuki
@jinmochizuki 8 ай бұрын
The lights out aged beautifully lmao
@Am0ment0fB
@Am0ment0fB 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe this is only 33 minutes. I would have assumed hours. Ha.
@Dr170
@Dr170 2 жыл бұрын
That covers almost as much ground as Kenny Bolin
@rickytpb2164
@rickytpb2164 2 жыл бұрын
This deserves more likes
@arthurdaffos1490
@arthurdaffos1490 2 жыл бұрын
What was the problem with Kenny Bolin ?
@johnnyjoestar8069
@johnnyjoestar8069 2 жыл бұрын
@@arthurdaffos1490 he made up bs about cornette russo and a guy from a pizza parlor with a chainsaw I think it got Steven p newd though
@jbo8540
@jbo8540 2 жыл бұрын
@@arthurdaffos1490 the op was making a joke about kenny's size
@DonGreks22
@DonGreks22 2 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is when you bring up to these problems to an AEW fanboy, they always have some BS reason to try and tell you how you supposedly don’t understand wrestling when on reality it’s the other way around.
@maxxdahl6062
@maxxdahl6062 2 жыл бұрын
That's the most insulting thing IMO. I'd rather they just own it and say "Yep we fucked up.Moving on."
@bradleyminoski2020
@bradleyminoski2020 2 жыл бұрын
AEW fanboy= People who don’t agree with every viewpoint I have regarding my narrow minded viewpoint of wrestling. Grow up pal. It’s not 1985 anymore. The business has changed
@dpradis
@dpradis 2 жыл бұрын
What a weird narrative. Where are these AEW "fanboys" denying all the shit booking of talent? Even on reddit every day it's brought up how shit Tony has booked the women's division. No one defends Sammy and Tay, people want better booking for Malakai, Andrade, Jay Lethal, Miro, etc. Please tell me where are the AEW "fanboys" denying reality because I legitimately want to see.
@KnucklesWTD
@KnucklesWTD 2 жыл бұрын
@@dpradis they have nothing left so they’re in hiding
@leelohaskin7941
@leelohaskin7941 2 жыл бұрын
@@bradleyminoski2020 "narrow minded view" sounds like you need follow your own advice , mark🙄🤣
@DillyDilly13
@DillyDilly13 2 жыл бұрын
Biggest mistake is featuring the same people every single god damn week.
@zepherscotty
@zepherscotty 2 жыл бұрын
Every interview is interrupted. Every Babyface champion is booked horribly. They just show up on TV, get interrupted, then wrestle a match. it's very bland with people who aren't CM Punk or MJF.
@jbrock11
@jbrock11 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest mistake was putting the title on Hangman. He was never a draw in NJPW so that should have been an indication he wouldn't draw in the US either.
@therudesociety5373
@therudesociety5373 2 жыл бұрын
Dammit Jim I’m still listening to Cody’s Omnibus
@RunDMG916
@RunDMG916 2 жыл бұрын
The real #1. Tony Kahn writes Dynamite.
@dquanissavage6287
@dquanissavage6287 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Shoot Today Jim!!😎🐐🐐
@bobbbobb4663
@bobbbobb4663 2 жыл бұрын
The bigger question is when does Discovery dump them from the network.
@BrianPhantom27
@BrianPhantom27 2 жыл бұрын
What I heard, It felt like the same mistake from WCW all over again
@attitudetv92
@attitudetv92 2 жыл бұрын
TNA all Over again lol
@vb2806
@vb2806 2 жыл бұрын
WCW had actual stars though
@vb2806
@vb2806 2 жыл бұрын
WCW had actual stars though
@cyclingcmdr
@cyclingcmdr 2 жыл бұрын
I miss piledrivers in WWE. But whenever I watch AEW, there's too much of it. Someone is getting piledriven every time.
@giblet1618
@giblet1618 2 ай бұрын
Cant wait for the one for 2024!
@MilkmanC
@MilkmanC 2 жыл бұрын
Cody even did the lights out for himself even😭not in 2022 tho lol
@KnucklesWTD
@KnucklesWTD 2 жыл бұрын
AEW as a whole is a mistake
@FrankLenzMMA
@FrankLenzMMA 2 жыл бұрын
Mad disagree. We would have never gotten Punk's return
@sprunnel
@sprunnel 2 жыл бұрын
No, it was the promise of a good thing. But the buying of dead companies and signing anyone and everyone rejected or released by wwe to spite them is killing it. Its simply an indie spot and should be better with their resources, but it's ran by the elite who have khan's esr who is a fan boy with no clue. Its destined for tna longevity. Which is a shame
@KnucklesWTD
@KnucklesWTD 2 жыл бұрын
@@FrankLenzMMA 😴🥱
@tonyh1718
@tonyh1718 2 жыл бұрын
@@sprunnel tna longevity ie 20 years and going strong?
@sprunnel
@sprunnel 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonyh1718 still going, yes.....strong? I would disagree
@GetBenched2010
@GetBenched2010 Жыл бұрын
Khan does the exact same shit Herb Abrams did but gets praised for it.
@darkscorpion-donzaloog
@darkscorpion-donzaloog Жыл бұрын
One of AEW’s glaring mistakes is letting a man in drag fight in the Women’s Division. Then again, this isn’t something that’s new in wrestling.
@IndigoUchiha26
@IndigoUchiha26 2 жыл бұрын
AEW isn't bulletproof to criticism 💯 for those who hang on Tony's junk
@Mondragora99
@Mondragora99 2 жыл бұрын
Eddie Kingston need to be champion, TNT or World ASAP. Why? He can talk. Look WCW, Hall and Nash never wrestle week by week but they cut promos all the time and people CARED about this type of booking.
@Jukeboxster
@Jukeboxster 2 жыл бұрын
He looks like he lives in his mother's basement though. Champions are supposed to be aspirational, does anyone want to be Eddie Kingston?
@TheOldMPClub
@TheOldMPClub 2 жыл бұрын
Eddie Kingston, Kevin Nash and Scott Hall always had personality. They can get a way with it. Others in AEW and other promotions have no such personality to fall back on.
@francisj9003
@francisj9003 2 жыл бұрын
A complete list would take hours if not days.
@JUYAN16
@JUYAN16 2 жыл бұрын
I wish we could hear what Brian is hearing. 'WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?!' Lol
@deyampert3738
@deyampert3738 2 жыл бұрын
I like how WWE does blood! They don’t! If somebody is bleeding it’s real! I loved LASHLEY vs McIntyre in Hell in a Cell! Lashleys shoulder and Drew’s back! Real stuff!
@drillosophy1012
@drillosophy1012 Жыл бұрын
True. Becky Lynch busting her nose for a shoot literally made her career.
@jonathanr4160
@jonathanr4160 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I'm shocked it's only 33:51 long knowing Cornette and his opinion on AEW's booking philosophies 😆
@jwolf2254
@jwolf2254 2 жыл бұрын
He agrees with them more than he does wwe rn lol
@flynnwalker5737
@flynnwalker5737 2 жыл бұрын
He really went from Stone Cold Steve Austin to Wheeler Yuta
@jayburnham3994
@jayburnham3994 2 жыл бұрын
I will say alot of times you don't see them might be due to scheduling conflicts which is why TK is cutting down on talent working elsewhere. Thunder Rosa is always having matches in other places.
@TheBlackNostalgiaNerd
@TheBlackNostalgiaNerd 2 жыл бұрын
I think Miro should join MJF as a new member of his faction replacing wardlow
@Jukeboxster
@Jukeboxster 2 жыл бұрын
hmmm, not a bad idea.
@rl318
@rl318 2 жыл бұрын
The main issue is that you have someone with no creative ability trying to be creative and using gimmick storytelling to cover for a total lack of story structure. And the reliance on viewers doing all their own research to figure out what is going on comes down to laziness. Next week they are having a match between Deonna Purrazo and Mercedes Martinez for the ROH Woman's Title with no build. And on top of that, Martinez has not even been on television, and when she was on AEW programs, she usually lost, and now they are hyping a match with her and someone a lot of people might not know.
@sprunnel
@sprunnel 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine leaving wwe bemoaning creative and arriving at aew. It's the same position. Too many people not enough positive ideas on how to progress the company
@peterlee6374
@peterlee6374 2 жыл бұрын
I keep telling the aew stans this is the problem with aews booking Aew EXPECTS you to know and if not we’ll we ain’t gonna tell You anything just find our for yourself and “do research” No one should need to watch njpw impact ROH gcw the indies wwe, follow the talent on all forms of social media and watch 4/5 wrestlers blogs just to keep Tracy of what’s happening on aew tv Yeah your hardcore wrestling nerd will but the normal people will watch aew wwe MAYBE something else if that They don’t get that people do other stuff then just watch wrestling all day every day Sure have Easter eggs little nods etc etc but you ain’t gonna attract people if you expect them to do “homework”
@chembiz
@chembiz 2 жыл бұрын
@@peterlee6374 the need to research is why I gave up watching aew. I did research a couple of times then gave up and that's around the time I gave up on AEW. I get the highlights/lowlights on youtube now, but do not watch the show.
@TheOldMPClub
@TheOldMPClub 2 жыл бұрын
The contrast is amazingly sad that this week's Impact actually took time to have their commentators inform the audience of events that happened in AEW and in relation to ROH (heck they even mentioned what happened in NJPW too) that were relevant to their program's storylines. Over on that program Deonna Purrazzo having the ROH championship and being angry at Mercedes Martinez is the interim champion is actually written into the show, while on AEW the match just basically happens.
@pendafen7405
@pendafen7405 2 жыл бұрын
'Shot of brandy' might be one of the most sociopathic things Jim has ever said.
@magnificentone4686
@magnificentone4686 2 жыл бұрын
#8 Signing former WWE released stars and pushing them to the top over faithful AEW stars who get depushed and released
@anthwardle3516
@anthwardle3516 2 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely noticing that they are WWE'ing the show now and I have been with aew since before All In. The talent they have and never gets used. If they booked all their big stars right the show could maybe do 2 million viewers within a year
@iainnicholls8537
@iainnicholls8537 2 жыл бұрын
I was big fan of wcw but watching it back it wasn't really that good
@WillS724
@WillS724 2 жыл бұрын
Tony must have been horrible as a kid with toys..collected a whole bunch..broke them..lost them..he treats his wrestlers like action figures
@Enterthedarkness23
@Enterthedarkness23 2 жыл бұрын
AEW books their storylines like its a trilogy of movies. Ratings and Viewership continues to drop, people aren't going to remember every last detail that was done 3 years ago.
@markb6295
@markb6295 2 жыл бұрын
I miss Miro's "double-jointed wife" promos
@longjohn526
@longjohn526 2 жыл бұрын
I think you need a much bigger wheel ...... Just sayin' ......
@WantTheSmoke
@WantTheSmoke 2 жыл бұрын
Biggest mistake is allowing anyone to wear political shit. Dante is a great wrestler and I am all for black lives mattering. But his arm band really ruins him for me. I watch wrestling to get away from politics and Dante doesn't allow me to do that. This goes for any wrestler who does this. Nothing personal, but keep politics out of your gimmick.
@insupportofjunhado
@insupportofjunhado 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, Jim makes a good point here that flew over my head until now. People complaining about how no one bleeds in wrestling only made a modicum of sense to me until now. Maybe they don't bleed enough for what they do to be realistic, but blood is still common. But of course, if it's only in the money matches where blood is regularly split then the casual observer would immediately jump to that conclusion. Being a wrestling fan, I tended to jump to the big matches almost right away, maybe watching some of the build up first if it was available and I had the time to.
@timmiller6531
@timmiller6531 2 жыл бұрын
A perfect example of bad story telling would be red velvet joining jade Carhill with zero explanation...good job guys!
@gregorycostello6377
@gregorycostello6377 2 жыл бұрын
well i read u had to watch one of those goofy youtube shows or something like that. Who the fuck has time for that shit lol
@NickD25
@NickD25 2 жыл бұрын
When AEW started, I was watching. Even bought their first PPV. But right now, I'm barely interested. The Wardlow MJF feud is the only thing I really care about. And I'm a huge Japanese wrestling fan but here's where I think they went wrong... they try to book like NJPW for a US audience. That, right there, does not work! Too many moving parts! What's the point of having 20 top stars? There's no way you can use them in a meaningful way. I could continue but I'll write an entire chapter lol.
@rizkyanandita8227
@rizkyanandita8227 2 жыл бұрын
I have limited knowledge since I only watch NJPW. The talent actually have an off season. When a division tournament is going on, the other division are resting.
@REVIVALFitness
@REVIVALFitness 2 жыл бұрын
AEW zombies are gonna be really surprised (LOL) when Turner doesn't re-new their TV deals.
@ViejoSabroso-rj9cc
@ViejoSabroso-rj9cc 2 жыл бұрын
Sure about that? Well, i have some bad news for you 😉
@henriklarssen1331
@henriklarssen1331 2 жыл бұрын
They are on top of the ratings every time beside the NBA, only a retard would not wanne renew these contracts, but now they have to pay more.
@anachronologist2017
@anachronologist2017 2 жыл бұрын
5:50 The way Jim describes reading a book with long breaks in between is actually how I read books. weird.
@jasonrobinson5670
@jasonrobinson5670 2 жыл бұрын
I laughed my ass off when he said WWF LiveWire was better than Battle of the Belts.
@michaelspringer4532
@michaelspringer4532 2 жыл бұрын
The best workers in AEW won’t put each other over . That’s why they don’t have many big time Matches and angles . A bunch of fucking marks led by CM PUNK and the young bucks
@michaelspringer4532
@michaelspringer4532 2 жыл бұрын
@@joegreene7619 I don’t disagree with you , just trying to give them some credit. I won’t even watch that shit personally.
@leelohaskin7941
@leelohaskin7941 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelspringer4532 they don't put each other over cause they don't wanna lose and have egos as well, quiet as its kept, but nobody want to talk about that unless if it was another company or a defunct one🤔
@michaelspringer4532
@michaelspringer4532 2 жыл бұрын
@@leelohaskin7941 I understand what’s going on bub .
@leelohaskin7941
@leelohaskin7941 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelspringer4532 I know🤷🏽‍♀️ but still it's hilarious fans skirt around that 🤣
@MIGHTYBOOSCH198
@MIGHTYBOOSCH198 2 жыл бұрын
Trouble with AEW's Women's roster is they have only a handful of credible talent. Nyla Rose is just big, she's actually pretty rough in the ring, so all she's really good for is jobbing to the stars and squashing jobbers. Ruby Soho, Toni Storm (who is new anyway), Shida and Statlander if you can even count her as credible are all face, the only credible heels are Brit and Sereena, Britt she's just feuded with and Sereena was and still is feuding with Shida. Who else is there? Martinez just did an angle with Rosa, Hayter is Britt's stooge, Jade isn't ready to be champ and isn't ready to lose her streak. I mean what you going to do, put the belt on Tai Conti who feels upper midcard or Anna Jay who isn't even that? The women's division is shallow, always has been and TK has failed to to see or resolve it. The booking is inconsistent although the names this guy brought up mostly suck. But it does seem random, like House Of Black vs Death Triangle is hot then cold, involves Pac then doesn't. Everything is like this, you can't follow any of the stories but they're on, then off, like Julia Hart, it's easy to forget why she even has an eye patch, we never she her and when we do they're trying to get back into this storyline we don't care about. Oh and Scorpio Sky had some amazing undefeated run we never saw because it was on the Z show. I guess AEW uses blood too much, but the bigger problem is the excessive violence. I was excited for Baker vs Thunder Rosa but the match was just a car crash, why are you using weapons in a steel cage, you already have a cage! Scorpio vs Sammy had barbed wire on ladders and it made no sense and added nothing to the bumps. I like a car crash style hardcore match but AEW turns every match into one. Page vs Cole had some decent spots but zero story, it was just another car crash in a company full of car crashes. I mean with Cody they couldn't keep him. He wanted Punk money, he wasn't delivering Punk quality. Things weren't exactly going well for Cody, you couldn't give him a pay rise after that run.
@allforgreatness9883
@allforgreatness9883 2 жыл бұрын
It wasnt about money he signed for the same amount
@MIGHTYBOOSCH198
@MIGHTYBOOSCH198 2 жыл бұрын
@@allforgreatness9883 Do you have both his AEW and WWE contracts? Pretty sure he wouldn't give up creative control and a pseudo EVP role for the same money for no real control and no substantial, guaranteed role. Oh and AEW hired and humored Brandy which WWE hasn't done. WWE had to have covered his AEW money, plus Brandy's money plus something else just to make it worth his while. Also Cody wanted Punk and Daniel Bryan money, which in AEW is exclusive for Punk and Bryan (currently) in WWE they were mostly just short of the main event. To WWE Punk and DB money isn't that much, in fact probably like a third of the roster are on similar money and guys like Reigns and Brock, higher. The only reason Cody liked his indy and AEW money was because in WWE he was mid-card so he was making good money but not top guy money, so it wasn't that hard to beat or match. This time he insisted on top guy money so his rate jumped up to higher than what he made on the indies and AEW.
@allforgreatness9883
@allforgreatness9883 2 жыл бұрын
@@MIGHTYBOOSCH198 that is not true stop sayin that he already said it is completely false he was the odd man out they turned on him he made the right move.
@MIGHTYBOOSCH198
@MIGHTYBOOSCH198 2 жыл бұрын
@@allforgreatness9883 you seriously need to proof read before you post, what you typed makes absolutely no sense. I'm not even saying it's wrong, I can't, I have have no clue what you're trying say at all.
@allforgreatness9883
@allforgreatness9883 2 жыл бұрын
@@MIGHTYBOOSCH198 carry on guy
@ZAktheRipper357
@ZAktheRipper357 2 жыл бұрын
What actually kills AEW is not being on a streaming service. A vast majority of ppl have multiple streaming services as opposed to cable tv service. If they want more viewers and expand fan base they need to be on a streaming service, about 3 years ago.
@johnstrika9170
@johnstrika9170 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I don't watch Raw, SD or NXT live. I wait until the next day to watch them on Hulu. That way, there's no commercials and I can ff through all of the crap
@israeloagiledintlhe4166
@israeloagiledintlhe4166 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: In WWE's pg era we've seen blood more in main event matches or random mistakes (like Jax punching Becky in the face)...
@zeokin2522
@zeokin2522 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of mistakes Tony Kahn made (Jim gotta remember) could have been fixed from the start if he took some kind of job with AEW when it first started. If he took a job with Russo in TNA he could have taken this one and been a consultant at the least. Even if he didn't like Omega or the Bucks
@Smokey1419
@Smokey1419 2 жыл бұрын
Yea, but they wouldve questioned jim with everything and gone against his suggestions just to spite him
@reece1341
@reece1341 2 жыл бұрын
@@Smokey1419 sounds like Russo in TNA and he still took that job
@sublime90
@sublime90 2 жыл бұрын
if tony kahn was smart he'd have brought over paul heyman not jim.
@joeyskywalker1322
@joeyskywalker1322 2 жыл бұрын
@@sublime90 Can’t Paul Heyman is with WWE and tbh Paul Heyman isn’t a good Booker lol last time Heyman was in charge of Raw it was shit he had Andrade and Humberto Main eventing every week
@natebaxter9551
@natebaxter9551 2 жыл бұрын
@@reece1341 he got smarter as he got older.
@thomasj.foolery7025
@thomasj.foolery7025 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on keeping this video under an hour. Lord knows this can be a multipart video.
@frank-bmtz
@frank-bmtz 2 жыл бұрын
"A shot of Brandy" I see what Jim did there.
@john_blues
@john_blues 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I'm saying this after his initial ass-backwards introduction, but I can't wait until Miro gets back.
@KentaObscuro
@KentaObscuro 2 жыл бұрын
15:01 I need a supercut of Brian reading good 😁
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