Thanks for sharing this! We are in the thinking of what's the best solution for us. :)

Best way to go 👍

We enjoyed it a lot 🙂

It's fun to test the drivers' skills and the car capabilities, especially before really going 4x4 overlanding

Effectivement c est dommage

😄

Thanks! It's an awesome experience and can only recommend 👌

Thanks for the message Steve! :)

Exact 💯 😃

Merci Dany, on s est bien amusé et on a pu voir l évolution de notre expérience, le jour et la nuit par rapport à notre premier passage il y a plusieurs années! On se rejouit de revenir plus tard cette année lorsqu on aura avancé notre nouvel aménagement. :)

Thanks! :)

😃 yes we have! Are there some similar terrain in the Netherlands?

@@offtrackfamily yes we have a park for Offroad vehicles here in the south of the Netherlands. But there are a lot of Offroad trails for 4wd vehicles you could follow with more cars at the same time. For the real mountains we need to go to the alps…… end of July we will go to Valais for holiday……

Haha thanks! :)

Traitor, be gone😜

@@R.Sole88109 haha! I’m a Land Cruiser owner but I still appreciate the original Defenders

@@jamesb8467 I'm a Land Rover owner but still appreciate the original Land Cruisers 😉

@@jamesb8467 Glad you appreciated the humour. If I couldn't have a old Landy, a old Cruiser would be my next choice. Or a new build of the old design.(70 series probably a 76)😁

Thanks!

It's a cool place to test the car and driver's skills! A shame you can't access one like this anymore, it's the same in Switzerland, nothing similar and have to go abroad.

👍 nice

Yes, we're lucky to have an offroad fun park not too far from our place. This neither doesn't exist in Switzerland. Do you have a 4x4 in HK?

@@offtrackfamily 抱歉在香港我沒有4x4😅所以很欣賞你們成日可以駕駛四驅車周圍去玩👍👍👍

Merci! Oui c est une très bonne idée de se tester avant d être confronter à des situations délicates en tout terrain. Le Def blanc n a pas de modif comme le notre et est passé presque partout ;)

Will check out the spacers you mentioned. We will soon fix this and choose the best solution for our use while not damaging these amazing shocks.

Thanks! It's a really cool place to enjoy offroading, testing the car and the driver. Yes we are working on the spring solution and will get it done asap. This situation shouldn't occur while driving on road as it was really in full flex that it happened, and even with the max flex it didn't completely go out of its placement, so should be all good. Very happy with the KM3, they went well offroad and are less noisy than the Toyo on road. We know that Toyo M/T do handle very well rocky tracks, so we'll have to see if KM3's are good on those types of tracks.

What is the meaning of 1hd-fte?

@@offtrackfamily He means the engine of the Toyota.

Oui vers Lyon. Il y a le lien dans la description

Thanks! Custom made exhaust and remap from TD5Inside

Hi just saw that that exhaust is legal in swiss ? Is it a straightpipe with the silencer ( idk the correct word sry..) ore just straight ? You do not have 100% diff Locks right? What kind of diff are they?

Thanks! We had a great time and will go again when the new setup is completed! They also have a bad reputation around here but in my opinion if you learn how to take care of it, know properly your 4wd, and know if some mods are needed for your use, it helps to keep it as reliable as possible :)

We have 3x limited slip diff ATB rear front & center + stock center diff lock

@@offtrackfamily That's awesome. I will also look into this option for my Defender too. Much simpler than a locker system

For sure it'll be different with the full setup but not much more different than our previous setup. Should be even better as most weight will be on the lower part of the car. We didn't tip the car before so should go well with the new setup, might not be able to do everything we did that time but would have to test ;)

As you say, always looks way more easy on camera ;)

We're no recovery experts so we learn along the way 🙂

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Reading your message I feel you haven't watched all the video or didn't listen or read why this happened to the rear spring. It's a great suspension set and there's a reason why this happened. As said in the video we needed to test offroad to be sure it wouldn't or would happen. It did happen, I exposed why, also exposed our 2 solutions, and it'll be fixed before traveling. The purpose of doing this type of fun outing is to test the vehicle and stay prepared for overlanding by knowing properly the vehicle's capabilities with its current setup.

@@offtrackfamily no I watched the video and you said you would be changing it but you don't explain why or how dangerous it is, or how you ended up making the mistake and how others need to NOT make the mistake. The other issue is this off-road park is not in your back yard, you drove there and drove home like this. If you needed to make a moose avoidance maneuver when you swing left the left spring could fall out, then when you swing/turn right there is no spring to support the vehicle so it would instantly flop or roll over. As a leader in the LR community you should have shown everyone that this is a "very serious situation" that could cause injury or death, and you should have fixed it before going home. Not to mention that spec'ing the car for flex, which is a poser/instagram move and not relevant to actual off road capability could have injured or killed members of your family or others walking or travelling in the other direction. Actually doing a second video about this now still may be a huge service to the community and could save lives.

I understand your concern about this and the reason why we shared it & explained why it happened regarding our personal setup is to share our experience and help viewers understand better some situations. The spring didn't completely go out of its placement even though it was the maximum flex physically possible of our Defender. Relocation cones will be installed like on our previous setup in which springs were made to go out of their placement when offroading and where guided by a cone to come back correctly. I don't underestimate the accident possibility but certainly not the catastrophic scenario of an on road avoidance manouver you mention with our springs falling out. Almost reaching 200k km of driving with our Defender, you must certainly understand we experienced many different road situations and if our suspension setup was dangerous, we wouldn't have kept it this way. This is also why we had & have adjustable shocks, adjustable for road or off-road use. When on-road they are adjusted to harder to limit roll pitch, as you mentioned this previously. The ARB OME BP-51 shocks are adjustable for compression and rebound, which means we can have the best suspension settings for our vehicle. Yes we will share another video when we will add relocation cones with an explanation as we share our experiences and feel it can help others :)