I personally think Mystic is elite.

I would love to see this in virginia or florda

Mystic Timbers is the best ride at KI….Elite for sure

I’ve ridden 29 total roller coasters between both of these parks, 13 at kings island and 16 at cedar point. Both are amazing parks with a phenomenal coaster lineup, both are definitely in the top 3 cedar fair parks for me!

You're missing the 2 coasters from Stricker's Grove in Ross, Ohio. One is fairly notable, Tornado. The other is a kiddie coaster, but is one of only a couple dozen certified ACE classic coasters

I could not disagree with you more about Adventure Express lol. It is meant to be jerky, that is the whole point. I think it is really fun, Cedar Creek is a snooze fest

Sick list, but I’m still waiting for the day people realize corkscrew kinda slaps

Backlot Stunt Coaster is underrated.

Great video! I really enjoyed watching this!

Unpopular opinion: Backlot Stunt Coaster is really good (i’ve only been to king’s island btw). The launch is good, the triple helix is fun and the rest is fun but my favourite part is where you go in the dark. Great ride, my 6th fav at King’s Island under Banshee and above Racer.

Bruh, mystic timbers is elite, adventure express is at least good, and Magnum xl 200 is elite. It's the greatest hyper ever made

This was a great video. I agree with most of the tier list. Great video!

Tier of it's own: SV Elite: Diamondback, Orion, Maverick, Dragster Great: Mystic, MF, Magnum, Banshee, Gatekeeper, Valravn, Raptor Good: Racer, Blue Streak, FOF, Gemini, Bat, Rougarou, Beast, Wicked Twister, BLSC, Invertigo Meh: Corkscrew, CCMR, ID, Woodstock (both), Sea Dragon (Columbus Zoo), Nuclear Rush (Scene 75) Bad: Adventure Express, Wilderness Run, FAAC

I have also never felt much force on Millennium Force. When I rode it the first camelback gave no airtime.

Awesome video!

Based on my two visits to Cedar Point in 2015 and 2017 plus my solo visit to Kings Island in 2015, my favorite Ohio roller coaster is Millennium Force followed by Top Thrill Dragster, Maverick, The Beast, Gatekeeper, Banshee, The Bat, Diamondback, Firehawk (R.I.P.), Valravn, Raptor, Flight of Fear, Rougarou, Backlot Stunt Coaster, Wicked Twister (R.I.P.), Adventure Express, Cedar Creek Mine Ride, The Racer, Blue Streak, Vortex (R.I.P.), Iron Dragon, Corkscrew, Invertigo, Magnum XL 200, Mean Streak and Gemini.

I love seeing the love for blue streak. In 2019, I had one of my favorite rides of the day being a night ride in the back row on blue streak. Tremendous amounts of airtime, and my lap bar was no where near my legs so I had plenty of room

The new system that I'm thinking about goes like this: "On an average day at the park (with no Fast Lane), how long would I wait in line to ride _____?" SteVe - up to 2 hours at early entry, 1 1/2 hours thereafter Maverick - 1 1/2 hours Millie - 1 1/2 hours The Beast (night ride) - 1 1/2 hours Flight of Fear (only on a hot day) - 1 1/2 hours Valraven - 1 hour, Front row - 1 1/4 hours Banshee - 45 minutes Orion - 45 minutes Raptor - 45 minutes, Front row - 1 hour Dragster - 45 minutes (or immediately when it reopens after maintenance) Mystic Timbers - 45 minutes Diamondback - 35 minutes Magnum XL200 - 30 minutes The Beast (day ride) - 30 minutes Back Lot Stunt Coaster - 30 minutes Gatekeeper - 30 minutes The Bat - 30 minutes Gemini - 20 minutes Blue Streak - 20 minutes Rougarou - 20 minutes Iron Dragon - 20 minutes Mine Ride - 15 minutes Racer - 15 minutes Adventure Express - 10 minutes Woodstock Express - 10 minutes Invertigo - 10 minutes Corkscrew - 5 minutes I'm missing a few, and I have definitely waited longer than this for most of these rides (The 3 1/2 hours I waited for Magnum back in June of 1989 was worth every minute). This is just my rough guide when I approach the parks. I consider any wait shorter than listed to be a "good deal" and time well spent. For me, the wait is part of the experience of the ride while walking and waiting is part of the overall experience of the park. It's like a budget in some ways. "How much time do I want to spend in line right now?" or "Can I come back later and find a shorter line?"

Sorry but magnum is my favorite and is UNDERRATED!! I know there is milli ttd and steel vengeance but magnum is so different and unique

Yes, Blue Streak, Thunderhawk at Dorney, and Phoenix at Knoebles are some GOAT classics

Where did you find this template? I'd love to do this

Even by your logic, it seems odd to put Magnum below Blue Streak. Remember, on these coasters with three rows per car, it might be a good idea to try the middle row of the car for a smoother ride. The smoother ride has to do with it not being directly above a set of wheels. This applies on Blue Streak, Cedar Creek Mine Ride, Gemini, and Magnum XL-200. The middle of the train often seems to provide a less jerky ride too, though this does not apply on everything. Corkscrew seems MUCH more enjoyable in the last car of the train. Rougarou turns enjoyable in the front. Magnum and Raptor used to be pretty smooth, and I blame the change to increased roughness more with changing maintenance standards in recent years (like replacing the wheels less often), rather than age. PS: Have you tried Iron Dragon with the new virtual reality addition. I'm not sure if it has been used since the pandemic start, but it does add an interesting spin on an old ride. I hope they bring that back as it was. Also, Corkscrew is the next coaster out if one has to go, IMO. My opinion on Corkscrew comes from how unpopular it is with younger kids who are newbie coaster riders. It is an extra rough headbanger for little ones, given their shorter height. ~Sean of Detroit~

Fun video! Would have loved for your list to have some sort of order, Luke alphabetical, order from opening dates, etc. Also, would have good recap at the end....x # of coasters are elite from Cedar Point vs Kings Island

As someone from Ohio orin got over hipped they hipped it up more then the coater deserved so the a subtraction on the coaster

I did not find adventure express to janky and a night ride on it is very fun

When I was high school, probably about 2002-2003 I rode Corkscrew 60 times in about 5.5 hours.....I think my back still hurts.

I always forget how abnormally *STACKED* Ohio’s lineup is.

Really good tier list.

I’d personally put Adventure Express, FoF, Millie, and Wicked Twister all in Great tier. I have a very soft spot for the first 2, and I still would rather have a 15-2 ride on Wicked Twister than any ride on Millennium Force. Great list otherwise!!

I wish Blue Streak still had buzz bars and no seatbelt

Where you have Blue Streak and then Racer below it is absolutely sending me lol Your list though, not mine. Thanks for sharing.

banshee is really good except that the vest tightens down on right below my waist and its a pain

“What is up enthusiasts” Me: top thrill in the sky

People overhype Cedar Point’s lineup too much. Personally, I think every coaster at Kings Island is a great or elite.

Adventure Express is a relatively smooth ride more in the back

Elite: SV, Maverick, Orion, MF, TTD, Beast (for night rides) Great: Diamondback, Banshee, Raptor, Magnum, FOF Good: Mystic, Gatekeeper, Valravn, Rougarou, Gemini Meh: Backlot Stunt, Racer, Adventure Express, Corkscrew, Blue Streak, Invertigo, Bat Bad: Mine Ride, Iron Dragon

I can't believe they are retracking the beast. Kind of disappointed, but will love it even more hopefully!!!

You should do this for both Busch gardens parks.

Which is WORSE: Corkscrew or Adventure Express?

1. Would love to have more defunct roller coasters featured like Vortex, Mean Streak and others 2. I agreed with everything except Mystic Timbers (too low). But just my opinion. Great post

y’all if i get to steel vengeance and it’s not like how you guys say , im gonna scream

What’s the link for this list

blue streak over magnum is crazy to me

I guess you’ll have to also do Texas, California, Pennsylvania, and Florida too. Maybe Virginia too.

You should do Pennsylvania

Oof, Rougarou got sent to the basement accompanied by a boomerang and a couple of crappy family rides.

What’s Cedar Points New RollerCoasters Coming every Year Specially 2022

I honestly didn’t get anything out of diamondback but a rattle. What was wrong?

My Rankings (probably weird commenting 2 years later 😶🤐) 1 Steel Vengeance 2 Maverick 3 Millennium Force 4 Mystic Timbers . 5 Orion 6 Magnum XL 200 7 Banshee 8 Raptor 9 Valravn 10 Diamondback

You include wicked twister but not vortex? 😭

Gemini is so underrated.

Wicked twister was always fun it’s better then Gemini

This list is not great regardless but the worst offense is referring ro Backlot stunt coaster as "the one and only" It's a clone and all the clones literally share the same name. In fact every single ride on this list EXCEPT that are one and onlys. Also blue streak should be lower. Valravn should be higher and Mystic Timbers is elite.

Pennsylvania edition next

Missouri. One be xool

Orion Millennium Force SV Dragster are in a class by themselves

If you think corkscrew at cedar point is bad you should go to the one at valley fair.

You had me with Diamondback And lost me with Orion

Corkscrew is a great ride to take your significant other on… plenty of freedom to do…stuff.

Personally i would put blue streak in the bad. The 1 ride i had was very rough and had no airtime. I was assigned the middle even though i had asked for the back. I shouldnt even mention the 8 minute dispatches.. overall just a shitty experience.

how dare you put valravn in “good”. THAT IS THE BEST COASTER IVE EVER RIDDEN‼️

Blue streak one of the worst rides out there😭 corkscrew is a smooth ride and blue streak is a construction zone

The Beast is elite!!

In my Opinion I would Switch Woodstock express and adventure express

Magnum and any other arrow in the two parks belongs in the bad tier

Blue Streak over Magnum. Wowowow 😳

There are 2 backlot stunt coasters IMAO

Better than Elite- Steel Vengeance Elite: Maverick, Magnum XL-200 Great- Top Thrill Dragster, Millennium Force, Orion, Diamondback, Mystic Timbers Good- Gatekeeper, Raptor, Gemini, Banshee, Bat, Beast Average: Valravn, Blue Streak, Rougarou, Wicked Twister, Back Lot Stunt Coaster Poor- Flight of Fear, Racer, Invertigo, Iron Dragon, Cedar Creek Mine Ride, Adventure Express, Pure Garbage- Corkscrew, Flying Ace The Woodstock Express are average and are pretty good for kids.

for flight of fear u said a great ride experience and u put it in good.......what happened there

No Stricker's Grove!? No Tornado or Teddy Bear!?

Iron dragon is so fun

Banshee's rattle just keeps getting worse

Could not agree more about adventure express. It's jerky and boring, and the completely anticlimactic end makes no sense. Love your vids!

i would say mystic needs in s tier 100%

Flight of fear underrated

Mystic is the best ride at kings island hands down

Highly disagree with Orion being up that high, Adventure Express is good-great, I’d move Banshee to elite.

Biggesf W of all time

Adventure Express is better than Cedar Creek Mine Ride. Restraints are better on AE vs CCMR

Elite: Diamondback, Orion, magnum, maverick. Steel vengeance Great: Adventure Express, Banshee, Mystic. Millennium Force. Good: Racer, Valravn,Raptor, Corkscrew, The bat, Gemini. Vortex (R.I.P) There ok.., FOF (TOO LONG OF A LINE COME ON), Rougaru,Wicked (R.I. Fire hawk (R.I.P.) Stunt. I’ll only ride it’s the only non long ride. Beast, CCMR (they are fixing both so let’s hope) Iron dragon (not sure) Woodstock (who rides this.) No, just no. JUST NO. Flying ace concussion chance, inverOHNO.

Same

Call me old school but I would 100% switch Diamondback with Magnum. Magnum is like a historic mom and pop pizza place and Diamondback and B&M hyper's are like Domino's. Domino's/B&M hyper's are consistent and solid but it's basically the same thing everywhere and can be kind of sterile. With a mom and pop, they might have some wobbly tables, a sign with a missing letter, and the same guy sweaty guy making the pie's for the last 30 years but the pizza is so delicious and those quirks are what give it character. Those quirks of a mom and pop place that you'd never see in a Domino's are like the shaky/jerky transitions on Magnum. A lot of people find it unappealing but for me it's part of the experience and nostalgia that adds a little extra kick of personality that I wouldn't want to change if I could.

!!MY OPINION!! The Beast is elite

Mystic Timbers not being in elite but some lame super short hyper in elite l take

The Zoo Wild Mouse Id Say Is Okay , The Wooden One Is Actually Good . elite For what It Is ... #BringRMCtoColumbus #RMCSeadragon

In my opinion you got about 15 wrong.

orion is the best b&m giga in ohio!

(No particular order within tiers) Elite: Steel Vengeance, Maverick, Millennium Force, Orion, TTD Great: Raptor, Banshee, Diamondback, Gatekeeper, Beast, Mystic Timbers Good: Magnum, Gemini, Valravn, Rougarou, Racer, Bat, Backlot, FoF Meh: CCMR, Iron Dragon, Corkscrew, Invertigo Bad: Adventure Express Didn't get to ride Wicked Twister 😭

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Orion is not elite is beyond boring putting Orion in elite is a disgrace to diamondback and millennium force

You're high, millie > orion

Overall, this is an "F" tier list video. Diamondback is B tier definitely not "S" tier. "S" tier belongs to Steel Vengeance alone, at least for Cedar Fair parks. Maybe TTD will open back up next year, but it's arguably "A" tier. Diamondback is NOT elite by any means. It is good. It is not elite. Neither is Orion. Both are upper "B" tier. This whole list is a complete joke and way too generous and the "modified format" concept is stupid, and everyone agrees with me. Just do the standard "S" to "F" tier... jeezus. Mystic Timbers "great" tier? Are you kidding me...? Banshee is slightly better than Raptor but other than that the CP coasters absolutely smoke their KI equivalents. Blue Streak, aka the baby-blue version of Zach's Zoomer is "great"???? What a horrible list. Blue Streak is as "F" tier as it gets. All pain, no thrill... no wonder why there's never a line. The Kings Island Racer is a "Bad / F" tier joke as well as the Bat at KI. How the F could you put the Bat over Iron Dragon when the Bat is a very weak, slow, and short version of Iron Dragon? I have the feeling that the OP didn't actually ride these rides. I do agree with the OP on Rougarou but, a blind squirrel finds a nut eventually I guess.

3rd

great list, only disagree with magnum, blue streak, and top thrill dragster. I wouldn't say dragster is an elite tier simply because of it's short ride time and the fact that it is a one-trick pony, solid 6th in the park for me. Ka is the same ride, but a little rougher, and you don't see that getting in the elite tier, or even the great tier for that matter.

I would disagree about Orion. Just like almost all of the Gigas, it doesn’t do much and I prefer hypers. Except I305 that ride is insane. Most Gigas I would put at good or great tier

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Elite: Mystic, Maverick, Diamondback Great: MF, Orion, SteVe, Banshee, TTD, Raptor Good: Gemini, Valravn, Gatekeeper, Bat, Beast, Flight of Fear, Racer, Adventure Express, Backlot Meh: Blue Streak, Iron Dragon, Woodstock (either), Magnum, Rugarou Bad: Corkscrew, Invertigo, CCMR, FAAC I don't get the hate for AE. SteVe is painful for me.

Orion is "Good " tier at best. Elite drop for sure, but the drop is followed by nothing even worth talking about let alone praising or suggesting it's more intense than Millie. Equal airtime in all honesty while Millie has a more noticeable sense of speed. Orion is superficial.

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