Ohio State: Analyzing what went wrong in Buckeyes rivalry unraveling

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Ohio State Football on Lettermen Row

Ohio State Football on Lettermen Row

Жыл бұрын

Lettermen Row was in the Horseshoe to break down the loss to Michigan on Saturday, and now it’s back inside the Horseshoe to re-examine everything it learned from the rivalry game - and what exactly went so wrong so quickly in the second half of that game.
How were the Buckeyes blown out at home in the biggest game of the year? What can we learn from Ohio State as it tries to recover? Can the Buckeyes still make the College Football Playoff after that humbling loss?
Spencer Holbrook, Andy Backstrom and Tim May are breaking down how the Buckeyes fared with the newest Lettermen Row video: The Monday After. Every Monday following Buckeyes games, Tim, Andy and Spencer will reconvene and chat about what they saw Saturday afternoon. #OhioStateFootball #OhioState #CFBNews
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@mran7042
@mran7042 Жыл бұрын
I loved Donovan Edwards answer when a reporter asked him to comment on his long TD run. He said “which one?”😂
@cbwilliamss630
@cbwilliamss630 Жыл бұрын
Well there was 2 of em
@mikegee248
@mikegee248 Жыл бұрын
Donovan had a helluva a game. A game full of superheroes and Edwards is like Superman around A2
@kenyadawalker8070
@kenyadawalker8070 Жыл бұрын
Followed by the Beavis and Butthead laughs w/ he and JJ🤣
@benddover4300
@benddover4300 Жыл бұрын
Love these guy's take on the loss.
@braddunay7772
@braddunay7772 Жыл бұрын
Horrible D once again for OSU!!!
@Adam-vs2in
@Adam-vs2in Жыл бұрын
That stadium is something else. Amazing how quiet it is when the 〽️ band isn’t playing Hail to the victors. I’ll give Day some credit since he said they were going to hang 100 on Michigan. After 2 games he’s half way there and should get to 100 by 2024.
@oldmancamping9715
@oldmancamping9715 Жыл бұрын
OSU going to the Big 12 to find a defensive answer is like going to the strip club to find true love
@SJM6791
@SJM6791 Жыл бұрын
😂
@mikegee248
@mikegee248 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t know they had DCs in the Big12.
@legacyns1
@legacyns1 Жыл бұрын
Jim Knowles is Don Brown warmed over. That was a 3rd graders defensive plan. OSU fans are still running around talking about giving up 10 rushing yards in the 1st half completely ignoring what it cost them to get that result. 🤣
@dp-116
@dp-116 Жыл бұрын
Haha great point. The Big 12 hasn't played defense in 20 years!
@buckguy1215
@buckguy1215 Жыл бұрын
Jim Knowles is NOT THE PROBLEM! All he can do is put players in position to make plays. He can't go down there and TACKLE for them. TACKLING has been a problem all year in the secondary. Safeties are supposed to be SURE TACKLERS, that's why they're Safeties! Cam brown missed a tackle that can't be missed. Ransom missed a tackle that can't be a miss tackle. Hickman is too good to panic in coverage to get a crucial PI call on 3rd and 12. Some mistakes were made by Knowles, but MORE mistakes were made on the field by the players. Losing guys in coverage? Again, Knowles calls the defense, it's the players who execute the plays! Getting caught with eyes in the backfield, losing track of players, not getting your man on the ground when you know that you're the last line of defense, that's a mental toughness! Get that man down, no matter what it takes, you have to make a sure tackle! 💯 TACKLING! Get that man on the ground, period!
@mikegee248
@mikegee248 Жыл бұрын
Tale of two halves, OSU took away the run in the first half and UM hung in there with the pass and big plays. Then UM leaned on their identity, Smash Fest running football in the 2nd. It was brilliant and genius.
@alexanderrcm
@alexanderrcm Жыл бұрын
I don't know what happened to OSU during halftime, but as a Michigan fan, going into halftime only down by 3 had me thinking we've got you right where we want you. Let the fireworks begin!
@philipalvarez2561
@philipalvarez2561 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking , we're about to win this again going into halftime.
@stevep2380
@stevep2380 Жыл бұрын
What happened at halftime was that Ohio state was selling out to stop the run in the first half. They got torched deep. In the second half they moved their safety back to defend that. Once they did that it opened up Michigan's running game.
@mikegee248
@mikegee248 Жыл бұрын
Smash Fest football and JJ and Donovan took over.
@waltsears
@waltsears Жыл бұрын
Precisely. You guys took our best punches and were still in the game. We lost this game by failing to go up big when we had the chances. Win on Saturday!
@kurtpittman7225
@kurtpittman7225 Жыл бұрын
The former Ohio State players saying they wouldn't have allowed Michigan players to plant the flag on the field sound like guys that just never had to deal with losing to Michigan so now they're having a hard time accepting the loss and want to talk tough. Don't want Michigan players celebrating in your house? Then don't lose to Michigan in your house. It ain't like they vandalized the stadium so dry your eyes and move on.
@andrefurtado3357
@andrefurtado3357 Жыл бұрын
You wouldn't have to deal with Michigan planting their flag on your field if you didn't tell them you would hang a 100 on them
@noelschuck6491
@noelschuck6491 Жыл бұрын
The point is they didn't allow that to happen because they won the game.
@rickeychavarria2771
@rickeychavarria2771 Жыл бұрын
Most of us don’t care about that petty shit ….Michigan always been this way cause they use to being out sons ….Ohio state is 10-2 on y’all in the past 12 years ….and even in this one Ohio state beat themselves they was controlling the entire first half even with mistakes ….so Ohio state again with more talent lost because they made a bunch of costly mistakes when they had the game right where they wanted it in the 2nd quarter
@howierichard5238
@howierichard5238 Жыл бұрын
@@rickeychavarria2771 you sound like a crybaby then wanna mention the past 12 years 😆 mention the overall record then.. Mention how many Nattys we got and how many yall got. Mention the fact in the past 35 years yall have only won 1 more natty than Michigan mention that at the end of the day you're still sitting at home crying this Saturday while Michigan is holding up another BIG10 Title on the way to go get the Natty... Take it like a real man with no lube Billy Buckeye. 😆 45-22..
@sheneedsme
@sheneedsme Жыл бұрын
@@rickeychavarria2771 So they choked again this year. Got it.
@rrradcliff
@rrradcliff Жыл бұрын
I love watching the Ohio state fans after a loss it’s thé funniest 😂 And I am from Columbus I mean the funniest
@skippythealien9627
@skippythealien9627 Жыл бұрын
I mentioned this in their previous video, but i really appreciate these guys for keeping it real
@rushstormempire1
@rushstormempire1 Жыл бұрын
I just love how mad Tim is still 2 or 3 days later about the game 😂
@mavrick6088
@mavrick6088 Жыл бұрын
We played like 6 true frosh lol. Michigan is going to be pretty darn good for the future because they develope amazing
@TheWunduR
@TheWunduR Жыл бұрын
Tim - Stop interrupting people mid-sentence. Incredibly rude.
@garycarter2586
@garycarter2586 Жыл бұрын
Uhhh, that’s “May’s Way.” He is Columbus’s answer to Hal McCoy. Courtesy and respect just don’t figure into either of these buffoons vocabulary or understanding!
@germandrummer13
@germandrummer13 Жыл бұрын
Alabama manners
@duganred
@duganred Жыл бұрын
He’s the worst, man. He does it all the time
@faulknersealock5575
@faulknersealock5575 Жыл бұрын
They gotta get Tim off the show and just have two people
@graham2661
@graham2661 Жыл бұрын
He’s horrible. Can’t stand him
@dobsr1184
@dobsr1184 Жыл бұрын
Jim Harbaugh changed it up during Covid he went from a pro style QB to a Dual threat and a smash mouth OL Along with fast defenders with power
@arthurfonzarelli9828
@arthurfonzarelli9828 Жыл бұрын
Except last year they had Kate mcnamara at quarterback and he's the furthest thing from a dual threat quarterback they have. He's always had a smash mouth offensive line as that's been the strength of Michigan and as far as the fast defenders with power, this year they probably have the least amount of pro prospects then they had in the last couple years on defense
@mitchellringel2059
@mitchellringel2059 Жыл бұрын
Fast defenders with power needs to be credited to Ben Herbert plz and thanks.
@garyshope8378
@garyshope8378 Жыл бұрын
Thy got outcoached that damn simple
@Account-kx5vr
@Account-kx5vr Жыл бұрын
And outplayed, all of the above.
@MF-it7pc
@MF-it7pc Жыл бұрын
Before you disparage Loveland, he's a freshman.
@dennispowers4254
@dennispowers4254 Жыл бұрын
That old guy complained about the pass interference in the endzone and demonstrated against the other guy. Everyone knows if you watch football at all that if the defender touches the receiver and does not have his head turned toward the ball it is mostly going to be called.
@chuckbrewer6751
@chuckbrewer6751 Жыл бұрын
OSU defenders were never looking back for the ball, you don't look back you make it an easy PI call...
@evenblackercrow4476
@evenblackercrow4476 Жыл бұрын
The reason is the rivalry gets labeled as the best is because of history. What they say about history? You don't learn form it, you repeat it. Have to give credit mainly to that guy I cannot stand for making the changes he and his program needed in order to reestablish themselves as rivals. A coach able to pass on 4 and short when everything rides on the conversion ius certainly capable of getting his team back in The Game. Thanks to that team for exposing it.
@Odin1177
@Odin1177 Жыл бұрын
No one is talking about Okie's strip sack of CJ Stroud. That was a BS call.
@PMckay
@PMckay Жыл бұрын
Forward progress 2 seconds into a sack Home call but karma righted the ship on the next play 😆
@michaelmcgregor007
@michaelmcgregor007 Жыл бұрын
I have watched so many of these by Ohio players and analysts and this is the first group that got it right. Good for you. What’s better is it aged well too. 5 months after the fact you guys look like professionals to me. I know how hard that must have been. ❤
@andrewshook2571
@andrewshook2571 Жыл бұрын
As a Michigan fan I’m happy to have a legit rivalry again ! Go Blue and looking forward to another 10 year war possibly 〽️
@scntech1750
@scntech1750 Жыл бұрын
Michigan gifted Ohio State the Rich Rod era. Perhaps this is evening it out. Meaning the head scratching decisions, noted by the correct analysis
@thespot5722
@thespot5722 Жыл бұрын
Don't get to over yourself things can change quickly
@howierichard5238
@howierichard5238 Жыл бұрын
@@thespot5722 osu is done for a long time. Sucks but that's life.. They haven't beat Michigan in 4 seasons and it's about to be longer..
@MzGarrett24
@MzGarrett24 Жыл бұрын
@@howierichard5238 Gets your facts correct! Its been 2 seasons and the 2020 season they didn't play because Michigan forfitted during covid! Don't kid yourself.
@dehilster
@dehilster Жыл бұрын
Right now, there is no rivalry. Until something changes drastically, the pendulum has shifted.
@darrellwilliams1510
@darrellwilliams1510 Жыл бұрын
Funny how shocked OSU is they lost again…UM is a great team, and better than last year. It may be 3 in a row next year in AA.
@coachbeam3600
@coachbeam3600 Жыл бұрын
Idk about that but I expect these games to be fun and close from now on. The Rivalry is way more interesting when it’s back and forth.
@darrellwilliams1510
@darrellwilliams1510 Жыл бұрын
@@coachbeam3600 agreed 👍🏻
@dougkirk9019
@dougkirk9019 Жыл бұрын
OSU 20 - 17 MICH 1st Half OSU 03 - 28 MICH 2nd Half Guess what coach and team made adjustments at halftime. 🤔
@mikegee248
@mikegee248 6 ай бұрын
Larry Moe and Curly. You guys are great! Love watching you three kick rocks after Michigan beat dat ass! Go Blue!
@cliftonmattison1976
@cliftonmattison1976 Жыл бұрын
Watching the game in Powell Ohio. The best team won.
@markg.7865
@markg.7865 Жыл бұрын
GO BLUE!
@davidlemaster2034
@davidlemaster2034 Жыл бұрын
I don't buy it for a second. Ohio State will be just fine. The last two years Ohio State has had a terrible QB. I know, I know, everyone thinks that CJ Stroud is great. HE's not!! He's completely over-rated. He's one-dimensional. He's slow-footed....never runs....and is incapable of running. This makes things pretty easy for a defense in an RPO situation. HE's not dynamic in any way. Sure, he can put up gaudy passing numbers, because against most teams he can stand in the pocket and survey the field. He has NFL receivers that get 5 yards of separation. But when Ohio State plays a team with equal talent, CJ Stroud stinks!! Next year The buckeyes will stomp Michigan, because some hard-luck NFL team will take Stroud off our hands. Don't believe me? Just wait.
@legacyns1
@legacyns1 Жыл бұрын
@@davidlemaster2034 And this is exactly why you got stomped the past 2 years.. Arrogance..
@davidlemaster2034
@davidlemaster2034 Жыл бұрын
@@legacyns1 big words coming from the guys who were too chicken shit to face Justin Fields in the shoe in 2020. That's okay though....see ya next year when Stroud is gone.
@legacyns1
@legacyns1 Жыл бұрын
@@davidlemaster2034 More talk...scoreboard fella..
@dehilster
@dehilster Жыл бұрын
Could it be that the pressure all year unravels these young men?
@coachbeam3600
@coachbeam3600 Жыл бұрын
Probably. But that’s what happens when you lose to the TTUN. It’s only gonna get worse until they win.
@nehru0310
@nehru0310 Жыл бұрын
@@coachbeam3600 But why should it? That all comes down to coaching. Coaches Tressel and Meyer had no problem getting them ready for it, but Cooper had trouble with it and it seems so does Day.
@coachbeam3600
@coachbeam3600 Жыл бұрын
@@nehru0310 pressure from the fan base, unfortunately. Day has never really had any heat on him but now he knows he’s coaching a one-game season essentially next year. I think you’ll see drastic changes in the offseason. He really needs an OC. Even the best pitchers still have catchers and it would help take away some of the arrogant play-calling and poor decision making.
@lisascherer527
@lisascherer527 Жыл бұрын
Good point on lack of mental toughness! We were tight and nervous and not confident, even in first half! As a psychologist this needs to be addressed---OSU-Mich has always been high pressure-why can some coaches and players handle it and others not? Goal: Controlled, focused rage!
@woodybear8298
@woodybear8298 Жыл бұрын
Because we didn't believe we could win, Shitigan did.
@darkzeus28
@darkzeus28 Жыл бұрын
Michigan breaks the will of opponents..comical suckeyes think that their arrogance will just win a game..excuses for a year
@bombpop4378
@bombpop4378 Жыл бұрын
@@woodybear8298 u mean MICHIGAN BABY 🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😭
@SJM6791
@SJM6791 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what happened to the John Cooper teams in the 90’s. They would dominate their schedule right up to the Michigan game. All of a sudden they couldn’t make any plays on offense and the defense couldn’t stop the Michigan running game. Cooper’s Ohio State teams were much more talented than the Michigan teams they lost to in that era. I have to believe it was mental. There was so much pressure on those teams to beat Michigan that they folded the minute things didn’t go their way in “The Game.” Coach Day and the Ohio State teams in this era are going to feel that same pressure going forward. It will be interesting to see how they respond to this challenge.
@legacyns1
@legacyns1 Жыл бұрын
Because we as fans have our biases about how good or bad we think our team or the opponent is. The guys playing the game can see what's actually happening real-time. All the pressure was on OSU. All the talk about last year being a fluke. OSU was going to get their revenge. The game was at shoe. Perfect weather. Michigan's top offensive and defensive players were out. Fans wanted blood and expected a blowout. OSU was tight because they realized it wasn't going to be a 1st round KO like many had been expecting. OSU is used to Michigan folding in the past. However, once Michigan punched back they knew they were in a fight that they could lose.
@dugbuiful
@dugbuiful Жыл бұрын
Its great to be... A michigan wolverine!
@bradleythomas59
@bradleythomas59 Жыл бұрын
Michigan's defense is really really good from the front end to the back end. Ohio State is an ELITE program and will continue to be so and Ryan Day is a good coach. He has lost 3 games in the last two years and that's EXCELLENT. As a Michigan fan, I was furious at Harbaugh for keeping Don Brown so long and this really hurt Michigan when they could have been playing with OSU all along during Harbaugh's time even practically beating them in 2016 in the Shoe, however, it didn't bounce their way. Michigan under Don Brown played the EXACT scheme as Knowles and Knowles came from Ok State in the Big 12 which is notorious for not playing defense and high scoring. For years, Michigan's offense was really average and once they were behind then that was it. The Michigan defense under Brown gave up big play after big play and he was too stubborn to change his "Man" philosophy. In 2019, Michigan plays Alabama in the Citrus Bowl and Brown plays man coverage on Devonta Smith-BAM (first play from scrimmage torched for a 70 yard bomb! I know how OSU fans feel right now. OSU cannot play man coverage the entire game. Can you imagine them playing Southern Cal with Caleb Williams and those WR's? Even worse playing Georgia who would manhandle them across their OL and DL like they will probably do to Michigan again if they play.
@bucknut87brutus81
@bucknut87brutus81 Жыл бұрын
I stated the exact same thing on this feed. Brown was one-dimensional and Knowles has many different versions of his defenses, he best be thinking about using them. Day has shown he will not hesitate to remove any coach not meeting the high standard Buckeye Nation demands. Ttun lost 4 games in 2020 that gets you fired in Cbus!
@Jsailor1210
@Jsailor1210 Жыл бұрын
Michigan is the best 2nd Half team in college football period. Holding the last 6 opponents to 17 points in the 2nd half. To top it off outscoring the last 6 opponents 84-3 in the 4 qtr. This win was inevitable for MICHIGAN. Buckeye tears for the next 363 days will be so sweet. It will be another ass kicking by Michigan in the Big House next year.
@ebear4015
@ebear4015 Жыл бұрын
All-22 film shows 5 plays, 350 yards and 35 points. That is on a 2 million dollar man, Jim Knowles. The man better Buck up and reevaluate his philosophy running zero 0 bliz, cover 1 when it wasn't necessary as their main running back was out and JJ was 3 for 10 past 10 yards. Fire your DB coaches for all I care as they can't turn and play the ball.
@chriscastle3551
@chriscastle3551 Жыл бұрын
And where was Dallan Hayden ?
@KINGJAMES2NYC
@KINGJAMES2NYC Жыл бұрын
Only 2 carries... That's another problem with game control and management
@mikegee248
@mikegee248 7 ай бұрын
Planting the flag on that big red zero at the middle of the field is just fun times! Go Blue!
@burasbulo9258
@burasbulo9258 Жыл бұрын
Never disheartened Michigan then took a lick and came back every time!! Michigan knew second half it was over 😭😭😭 best second half team 〽️💙💛🏈
@andh2627
@andh2627 Жыл бұрын
Why did we stop balancing our play call with the run and pass? First drive we balanced it out. After we stopped running the ball when we actually needed to (not on 1st and 35) and abandoned Hayden and stopped rushing with Xavier Johnson.
@jivepatrol6833
@jivepatrol6833 Жыл бұрын
It was too sunny last Saturday and the OSU didn't have any sunscreen! 😂😂
@rpryce2140
@rpryce2140 Жыл бұрын
Well played! 😀
@nehru0310
@nehru0310 Жыл бұрын
@@rpryce2140 Ridiculous! It's like we have to lie to ourselves. It was clear from the Northwestern game that OSU's offensive line couldn't get the job done and they made the excuse of the strong wind, LOL. I can understand the wind affecting the passing game but What does the offensive line melting away against Northwestern's defense have to do w/ the wind?
@PMckay
@PMckay Жыл бұрын
This a tough watch 😂😂😂 Goooo Blue💪🏾Ⓜ️
@Chipt1982
@Chipt1982 Жыл бұрын
So true about toughness - this Buckeye team lack Mental Toughness. That rests on the coaches and the players! As stated this was a program failure!
@markflood9755
@markflood9755 Жыл бұрын
Mich u aint had a backbone for 20 years
@davidlemaster2034
@davidlemaster2034 Жыл бұрын
I don't buy it for a second. Ohio State will be just fine. The last two years Ohio State has had a terrible QB. I know, I know, everyone thinks that CJ Stroud is great. HE's not!! He's completely over-rated. He's one-dimensional. He's slow-footed....never runs....and is incapable of running. This makes things pretty easy for a defense in an RPO situation. HE's not dynamic in any way. Sure, he can put up gaudy passing numbers, because against most teams he can stand in the pocket and survey the field. He has NFL receivers that get 5 yards of separation. But when Ohio State plays a team with equal talent, CJ Stroud stinks!! Next year The buckeyes will stomp Michigan, because some hard-luck NFL team will take Stroud off our hands. Don't believe me? Just wait.
@bombpop4378
@bombpop4378 Жыл бұрын
@@davidlemaster2034 wow the excuses just get even funnier😂😂 “Terrible QB” who was heisman favorite all year… you guys are just like your team, WEAK AF
@davidlemaster2034
@davidlemaster2034 Жыл бұрын
@@bombpop4378 I never said he was anything close. One dimensional. Enjoy this year....you guys earned it after being cowards and not wanting to see Justin fields in the shoe 2020. We'll see next year with Stroud gone.
@Freaky_Productions
@Freaky_Productions Жыл бұрын
Haha, the guys at 26:00 running around the stadium lol
@jaimuszunner8773
@jaimuszunner8773 Жыл бұрын
That’s my best friend Caleb and his brother Patrick! They had a tour that day and the guys were there doing the video!
@rct7rct785
@rct7rct785 Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of when Herb Brooks told his 1980 Olympic Hockey team "You can't win on talent alone." For years Ohio State won "the game" before it was even played. In the last 2 years, Michigan has changed the narrative of the rivalry. It looks like Michigan is the new bully on the block and they're obviously not intimidated by the Ohio State aura or 5* talent. Turns out, that coach up north is pretty good. Not only that but they're pretty good at coaching up and developing lesser quality talent. Ryan Day needs to move away from the finesse offense his wants to the power/spread teams Urban had. The only way to beat Michigan is to be more physical and out work them cause the days of just showing up with all these talented 5*s is over.
@Does_it_come_in_black
@Does_it_come_in_black Жыл бұрын
These excuses are killing me 😂😂😂Buckeyes got absolutely dog walked
@legacyns1
@legacyns1 Жыл бұрын
Their entire fanbase is delusional and still in denial just like their team and coaching staff... 🤣🤣🤣
@mikegee248
@mikegee248 Жыл бұрын
They did. And JJ was allowed to cook and Donovan and the defense put a stamp on it.
@daryinmedley8292
@daryinmedley8292 Жыл бұрын
No excuses from an OSU fan they just got whooped
@loydkline
@loydkline Жыл бұрын
Ohio state 🏈 fans ❤️ excuse referee:;; injuries;; bad weather etc etc
@buckguy1215
@buckguy1215 Жыл бұрын
That is also a HUGE PROBLEM, Ohio State has got to learn how to adjust their game plans at halftime/ make adjustments during the game! Ttun made adjustments at halftime in every game this season and dominated 2nd halfs. All year! Ohio State seems to never change what they're doing, how they're doing it during the game or at the half. They usually just end up getting a big play, or talent and depth win them the game. That has to change!
@RM-ed1if
@RM-ed1if Жыл бұрын
Michigan QB ran the ball in the 2nd half. That was their adjustment on offense. On defense, Michigan got a little more aggressive, giving different looks at the line of scrimmage, but it really comes down to Ryan Day not running the QB at all, making it easier for them to defend Ohio State. This game was checkers, not chess. Ohio State never made any adjustments, so Michigan didn't have to make the game too complicated. Michigan's OC admitted to having more plays ready that he didn't have to use. That's all on Day.
@mavrick6088
@mavrick6088 Жыл бұрын
By the way loveland if a true frosh who has been playing really good all year so he was definitely a guy us mich fans knew could have impact plays
@mikegee248
@mikegee248 Ай бұрын
I love Gus Chickens on the far left. He’s the best. Go Blue!
@markp8581
@markp8581 Жыл бұрын
We're still waiting for that 100 spot Ryan Day said he was going to put on U-M last year
@dougiedoug03
@dougiedoug03 Жыл бұрын
That was said before the covid year when you all bailed out lol
@markp8581
@markp8581 Жыл бұрын
@@dougiedoug03 yea so where's are 100 point ass kicking?
@dp-116
@dp-116 Жыл бұрын
He forgot to mention 100 over 5 years 😂🤣
@DB-xp9px
@DB-xp9px Жыл бұрын
i know i can jump a lot higher when someone isn't interfering w/ me so it's possible he could've jumped another 6" on that endzone pass, possibly catching it. that didn't change the outcome of the game all by itself but i've seen refs not call PI in similar situations.
@freeclimb5487
@freeclimb5487 Жыл бұрын
I saw the sun Saturday it was a glorious MAZE orb shining down upon the bastion of evil.
@MarkReedGOBLUE
@MarkReedGOBLUE Жыл бұрын
Yeah man!!! That initial drive of SCRIPTED PLAYS sure was special😂😂😂😂
@asay636
@asay636 Жыл бұрын
Yea Mays right, there was nothing there be done after the game, OSU had their chance to stop the celebration from happening. Like what do these former players think should happen? Don’t let OSU become MSU.
@luckyrocks1
@luckyrocks1 Жыл бұрын
Damn, the truth hurts but needed to hear it. No thanks on another beat down in CFB playoff. The culture needs to change ASAP!
@mikegee248
@mikegee248 7 ай бұрын
These dudes are hilarious! Go Blue!
@aaha100
@aaha100 Жыл бұрын
Mich did to Ohio St exactly what they did to everyone else this year in the 2nd half
@ObeyjusticeChiguta18
@ObeyjusticeChiguta18 Жыл бұрын
After making bold predictions before the game the 3 Musketeers are here to apologize 🤣🤣🤣
@jimblann
@jimblann Жыл бұрын
You guys keep talking about how OSU was competitive in the 1st half against Michigan, but you never reference how Michigan has been a 2nd half team all year. Why didn't the Buckeyes anticipate this?
@softshoes
@softshoes Жыл бұрын
That's pretty generous giving the coaches a pass. Your DC played the Don Brown defense and found out why he's not coaching at UM now. UM can only hope Knowles runs it again this year.
@bucknut87brutus81
@bucknut87brutus81 Жыл бұрын
Four big plays resulting in td's did us in. Knowles has said that his defense gives up big plays and that's unacceptable. It reminds me of Don Brown of ttun and his man to man aggressive defense which didn't work and he's gone. Knowles must change his mind set and be willing to use a zone defense at times and teach the secondary to LOCATE THE BALL!
@dennispowers4254
@dennispowers4254 Жыл бұрын
Spot on! I root for Michigan. I remember Don Brown's defense philosophy. They called him Dr. Blitz. It worked awesome when you were playing lesser teams. But once you played a good team they would get torched.
@OfficiallyOrca
@OfficiallyOrca Жыл бұрын
We have a procedure problem. Ryan Day needs to turn his play calling duties over so he can really see the tone of the game. Coming out trying wrinkles instead of going turbines full blast is totally on Day. Prove you can stop Marv after we'll pivot. Day is scary at calling his own games now. The signs we've seen throughout the year once again came full circle. Offensively we been stuck in neutral it just gets highlighted in games against our rivalries
@coachmellorock
@coachmellorock Жыл бұрын
Day just needs to go he has created a soft culture that thinks they can score 70 every game to win.
@ArrivedStoned
@ArrivedStoned Жыл бұрын
I've seen enough of Ryon Day. Time to let him go.
@coachmellorock
@coachmellorock Жыл бұрын
@@ArrivedStoned you Mean Ryan Cooper and I agree
@ArrivedStoned
@ArrivedStoned Жыл бұрын
@@coachmellorock oops yes Ryan lol.
@cploe
@cploe Жыл бұрын
WHAT A GREAT GAME!
@jlambe19
@jlambe19 Жыл бұрын
Obsession can be unhealthy at times
@nehru0310
@nehru0310 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. OSU fans -- I'm one of them -- need to get a life outside of football. To quote a friend "It's a sick religion.". She's right.
@godofglorykingsofhonormini6984
@godofglorykingsofhonormini6984 Жыл бұрын
At 18:20, the Buckeyes were going for it on fourth and five. They had a fake punt set up that would have resulted in a touchdown or first and goal. It was there. Could drive a semitruck through that hole. The long snapper didn't execute the fake, so the punt was nearly blocked and a big play and momentum shift to Ohio State was killed. Instead of regaining the lead the defense now becomes ultra-aggressive and gives up big plays by being out of position. I hope we get another shot at them soon.
@johndix4604
@johndix4604 Жыл бұрын
Defense was obviously coached to stop the run but ignored any passing.
@omarflores4577
@omarflores4577 Жыл бұрын
Ohio actually had a fake punt perfectly set up on that 4th n 5 but the center didn't direct snap to rb , instead snapped to punter , if u rewatch the play u can see it was perfectly set up good thing the center didn't do his job .GO BLUE!!!
@billkramer2994
@billkramer2994 Жыл бұрын
That head butt out of bounds was thug ball and why people disliked OSU!
@Texas_Longhorns
@Texas_Longhorns Жыл бұрын
Yeah because OSU is the only team in College Football to do that! Besides your a fool if you judge an entire team based one players actions.
@billkramer2994
@billkramer2994 Жыл бұрын
Oh and other schls are scumbags too so why pick on sleeznuts!!
@Texas_Longhorns
@Texas_Longhorns Жыл бұрын
@@billkramer2994 by the way the OSU player who head butted the Michigan player was taken out of the game immediately following that action. So take your thug ball somewhere else.
@billkramer2994
@billkramer2994 Жыл бұрын
@@Texas_Longhorns 2nd!! Unsportsmanlike fr sleeznuts! NONE fr M! M doesn't recrt thugs in the ist place! 7 !! thugs just indicted from Moo U fr their tunnel assault! These are the thug teams M has to play! Carlos Hyde NFL labeled AN ILLITERATE! at sleeznuts U! 2 coaches used him! Did nothing for him! How does an illiterate get in to ANY coll?? Sleeznuts hired 3!! Already known rule breakers!! Cooper, TRESSEL and slimy Urban!! M wldn't touch this garbage! The Michigan difference! Ya falla ",short horn"??
@Phil-osophical
@Phil-osophical Жыл бұрын
You guys will make the playoff and still could win the whoke thing!
@timleineke1997
@timleineke1997 Жыл бұрын
Sorry fellas, when you went to 1 and 35, Michigan wasn't playing attack mode defense. They gave you back 30 yards . If it's 1st and 20, Michigan is gonna play a more aggressive defense to hold you.
@AC-923
@AC-923 Жыл бұрын
Go blue! End of discussion 💪🏽💛💙〽️
@douglassteffan2712
@douglassteffan2712 Жыл бұрын
Complaining about the screen pass it worked in the first half didn't in the second half. Ohiostate didn't let Michigan hang around they played their game and took Ohiostate out of theirs. It's called imposing your will accept it we did when it was our turn. Go Blue!!!
@AsianPoshDorene
@AsianPoshDorene Жыл бұрын
lol sun has not come up since doomsday Saturday at The Shoe.
@KINGJAMES2NYC
@KINGJAMES2NYC Жыл бұрын
A lot of this screams of confidence issues in the coaching staff and the quarterback... I believe Kevin Wilson and Ryan they are the offensive coordinators which is a problem as well because their philosophies are very similar they want to throw the ball way too much they don't care about game control the team does not play with confidence when it counts and way too much finesse on offense now would you really want to see this team on the field against Georgia? If they suffer another blowout loss there has to be major changes yes Ryan day has a record of 45 and 5 but that stuff is padded by Rutgers and Maryland of the world when he's had to step up against major competition he's choked for the most part he has one playoff win in those 50 games
@cottonwoodslim3497
@cottonwoodslim3497 Жыл бұрын
Half time is more of what didn't happen in the OSU locker room compared to adjustments in the other team's locker room.
@donaldforest1942
@donaldforest1942 Жыл бұрын
OSU should of stayed with a quick snap offence,they had mich off guard because mich defence couldn't set up in time to stop OSU but at half time they switched to playing to the clock and gave mich time to adjust to a slower offensive play calling
@MzGarrett24
@MzGarrett24 Жыл бұрын
All the things you mentioned in regards to the metal toughness comes through good coaching. Everything that went wrong did because of Coaching. I'm so thankful for the guy in the hat that gets that. Thi sis Ryan Days loss and he needs to own that!!!!
@bigwoody4704
@bigwoody4704 Жыл бұрын
Day needs to be shown the door - he wrecked what Tressel/Meyer took 18 yrs to build. Day needs to take a pay cut or take a hike.Harbaugh did,Day makes 9.5 million. He recruited this team,he staffed it,he coached it,don't want to hear he's owning it BS,no shyt he had a year to correct mistakes and made it worse.Bite the bullet now and get a tough coach not a chronic chart checker
@MzGarrett24
@MzGarrett24 Жыл бұрын
@@bigwoody4704 Exactly! Day inherited a dynasty and he ran into the ground. He blamed Kerry Combs last year and this year was even worst.
@bigwoody4704
@bigwoody4704 Жыл бұрын
@@MzGarrett24 No argument from me,fire the ignorant asshole.He just pissed away 9.5 million of the ADs budget why let him do it again
@eduardoromero7817
@eduardoromero7817 Жыл бұрын
Who’s taking the blame this year, the turf monster?
@loydkline
@loydkline Жыл бұрын
Ohio state 🏈 fans ❤️ excuse referee: injuries & bad weather etc etc
@timleineke1997
@timleineke1997 Жыл бұрын
Bottom line, you weren't really beating Michigan physically. Michigan had a running back issue and that's why cj dokes was removed. We had you beat for some very big yards and he was not cutting back. He had huge cut back holes. And another thing was your defense loaded the box and had more guys than Michigan could block. So as soon as Michigan said ok. We're going long , you were done! When you decided to try and not let the long ball kill you and play back, Michigan started wiping the floor with you. That's why you play 4 quarters man!! And Michigan's defense was letting you have yards between the 20s, when you made it inside the 20 , you had no shot, they were just physically kicking your offenses ass
@CStockner
@CStockner Жыл бұрын
I’ve never played football. I’m an avid fan but I’m not a scheme or systems guy. But when Michigan lines up with a tight end as an eligible receiver on a 3rd and 1, and I’m watching the game in person live, and I think to my self “someone better stay on that TE” and they throw a jump pass on a totally broken coverage, how do college players and coaches at this level miss that?!?! Both long touchdown run plays were identical play calls with the exact same result. Horribly coached defense.
@PMckay
@PMckay Жыл бұрын
They playing the #s game 99% of the country thought Michigan was running it
@robertvalsi3948
@robertvalsi3948 Жыл бұрын
What went wrong? This team hasn't been hungry since they beat Clemson. Michigan is now firmly the best team in the conference. Hey Tim, it is the coaching. Meyer's influence is gone. He wanted his team to play angry.
@frankdavis230
@frankdavis230 Жыл бұрын
It’s bad, and not going to get better this year (next game)or next year!! Hold on…SAD
@nicktisone6502
@nicktisone6502 Жыл бұрын
You are right to long runs in 4th quarter lbs get caught inside and d tackle turned out of his gap responsibility. The Michigan OT blocked our d tackle in gap he wanted to at level 1 and lb at 2nd level on both runs!
@jackblack5409
@jackblack5409 Жыл бұрын
Chip played great. The running back thing was smart. I think chip being 230 lbs was going to be hard for them to bring down. If anything I think they shoulda played chip more and just ran the shit outa chip. He was averaging like 6-8 per carry for most part. We just couldn't convert on big 3rd and 4th downs
@thomasrossetti2376
@thomasrossetti2376 Жыл бұрын
Old Buckeyes remember when Rex Kern waved the punter off the field in his third game and Woody said "That's my boy"! Hayes respected leadership that happens in a flash. Hayes respected Kern's desire to rise to the occasion. Day need to own his failure to back his leader on the field!
@Robert-fs6ge
@Robert-fs6ge Жыл бұрын
Remember when Woody punched the Michigan runner as he was running down the sideline?
@peteymac84
@peteymac84 Жыл бұрын
@@Robert-fs6ge 😂😂😂
@davidlemaster2034
@davidlemaster2034 Жыл бұрын
I don't buy it for a second. Ohio State will be just fine. The last two years Ohio State has had a terrible QB. I know, I know, everyone thinks that CJ Stroud is great. HE's not!! He's completely over-rated. He's one-dimensional. He's slow-footed....never runs....and is incapable of running. This makes things pretty easy for a defense in an RPO situation. HE's not dynamic in any way. Sure, he can put up gaudy passing numbers, because against most teams he can stand in the pocket and survey the field. He has NFL receivers that get 5 yards of separation. But when Ohio State plays a team with equal talent, CJ Stroud stinks!! Next year The buckeyes will stomp Michigan, because some hard-luck NFL team will take Stroud off our hands. Don't believe me? Just wait.
@chevytothelevy456
@chevytothelevy456 Жыл бұрын
Mostly agree with everything said here... but if USC loses Ohio State is in and there is 0 question about that. bowl practice and long layoffs changes the landscape of college football more than people realize I think. a month is a long time in practice and preparation. Also I think we need to realize, with the exception maybe of 2006 and 2016, these UM teams are much better than what we've been used to. Side note: Buckeye fans used to cry that they wanted UM to be good to reignite the rivalry (I never wanted that lol- I want to beat them whether it's because they are bad or we are good).
@nathaniellathy6559
@nathaniellathy6559 Жыл бұрын
No more UM wins ever! Woody Hayes promising no more Indiana wins applied to Maize and Blue
@howierichard5238
@howierichard5238 Жыл бұрын
Osu is done. If USC loses Bama is in over osu. The fact that osu git murdered in their own house by 22 pts is embarrising and tomorrow night you will see that when they drop to #6 or further you can't take a loss like that and still expect to be in. If the outcome was reversed Michigan wouldn't have a prayer in the world. Both Bama loses were close. Only prayer osu may have is if Ga loses but i doubt it.
@Robert-fs6ge
@Robert-fs6ge Жыл бұрын
@@howierichard5238 probably but Alabama does have 2 losses I just don't see USC losing the way Caleb Williams Is playing though
@jeffs.692
@jeffs.692 Жыл бұрын
If TCU loses, the Buckeyes would probably still get in.
@nathaniellathy6559
@nathaniellathy6559 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffs.692 or if usc loses.Path looks good for Ohio State whether they deserve it or not
@robertcampbell8070
@robertcampbell8070 Жыл бұрын
Tim, you can't question whether a ball is catchable if the receiver gets a hand on it. If a receiver can touch the ball, it's catchable, period. That was absolutely a penalty, and a dumb one.
@SJM6791
@SJM6791 Жыл бұрын
Ohio State forgot that this is a rivalry game. It’s understandable why that happened. They had won 17 of the last 20 games against Michigan. “The Game” is back and Ohio State needs to accept that fact and prepare accordingly. They are not going to win this game by throwing the ball on 65% of their plays. They need to run the ball well and bring back a balanced offense if they’re going to beat Michigan.
@ebear4015
@ebear4015 Жыл бұрын
CJ is a great kid with exceptional arm talent, and I wish him nothing but the best, but I feel his weakness is not having a killer instinct and putting the team on his back. He operates best with a clean pocket and relay on his WR to get open. Sorry, outside of Marvin... Emeka and Jillian have not proven they are man-beaters.
@bluecheesenetwork6345
@bluecheesenetwork6345 Жыл бұрын
Our RB game this year was shit so you blame a QB for using his arm talent instead of running what did that do for fields get him a natty?No but Imagine if stroud had chase young, Wade, Okudah, dobbins, fuller.. OSU hasn’t won a natty since 2014 you blaming stroud for that too?
@ebear4015
@ebear4015 Жыл бұрын
@@bluecheesenetwork6345 Do you enjoy building strawmen? 🤡
@rockygardner807
@rockygardner807 Жыл бұрын
Mane I thought it was just me but #8 all season at the TE all ways missing key blocks!!
@6thmichcav262
@6thmichcav262 Жыл бұрын
Stover had the worst game. He was tackled for a loss early, dropped the 4th and 2 pass, had a touchdown knocked out of his hands, and tipped the last interception to Michigan. Poor kid.
@RM-ed1if
@RM-ed1if Жыл бұрын
I listened to Joel Klatt's discussion with Dave Revsine on the Big Ten Network, and Klatt said that Michigan is the better team on the interior of both lines and he believes that is the primary area where Michigan has improved, in order to win these last 2 games in the series. On offense, I thought our interior linemen held their own and played well, but I can't say the same for our defensive tackles, at least not late in the ball game. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that Michigan's big runs are right up the middle, see those gaping holes, and acknowledge that the interior of the Ohio State defensive line is where the problem starts. Going forward, we have to do a better job of recruiting high-level defensive tackles. Maybe use the portal. We have Hall, Williams and Hamilton and we recruited Kanu last year, but that's not addressing that position adequately enough if we're going to improve our chances of beating Michigan.
@chriscastle3551
@chriscastle3551 Жыл бұрын
Again, kudos to the Wolverines, they won. Was there things we could have and should have done better ? Of course there was. That's with every game. I couldn't agree more with the statement about this game doesn't make or break or your season. The hell it doesn't ! Obviously, it wasn't preached enough to some players or some players are all about "me". This "GAME" is why you either want to play in Ann Arbor or Ohio State! This was a program failure especially they we lost, not as much that we lost but the way we lost. Disappointed.
@coachmellorock
@coachmellorock Жыл бұрын
Very true especially seeing that our schedule was so weak that we really only had this game to win.
@andrewlane2008
@andrewlane2008 Жыл бұрын
Blake didn't even play a whole possession. I think it was 2 downs
@duanecarter7954
@duanecarter7954 Жыл бұрын
We got a DC for 2 mil that's been a DC for 80 years, who by his own admission, basically has to learn on the job how to call his defense that takes 3 to 4 years to fully implement...Can't wrap my mind around that.
@dennispowers4254
@dennispowers4254 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Blitz? Don Brown?
@duanecarter7954
@duanecarter7954 Жыл бұрын
@@dennispowers4254 That's a good point of reference to begin to understand
@johnd2416
@johnd2416 Жыл бұрын
Now I am more pissed at Day. I thought D. Hadden was injured in practice but was being hushed. He earned the right to play! Even one series. Great job managing a loss with caution.
@waltsears
@waltsears Жыл бұрын
Defensive failure. I agree. AND how much of the defensive play is predicated upon OSU’s failure to score like they should have in the first half? How much is because Knowles felt like he had to break the game open? Just sayin’. Go Bucks!
@oldben1800
@oldben1800 Жыл бұрын
There is clearly a predictable formation problem. We saw a UM DE drop back in coverage and bat down a pass because he knew exactly what was coming. Ryans offense is built on bland scheme with great playmakers. There is no seperation, the blocking responsibilities are far too heavy....the scheme is predictable. I do not blame the defense.... these offensive woes have been happening ALL YEAR... and most ignored it. The defense held when it needed to, there is no reason this explosive weaponry couldnt combat UM...or any team for that matter on offense.
@thomasbrown3301
@thomasbrown3301 Жыл бұрын
Pay attention to the film......the fourth down punt call was going to be a fake. It was set up to be a huge gain, if not a score. Great scheme by Day but again, poorly executed by the back up long snapper. THAT was the turning point of the game. All down hill from there.
@lonwoock9881
@lonwoock9881 Жыл бұрын
The pass was catchable. Easy PI.
@greenpostdoc
@greenpostdoc Жыл бұрын
Ohio State coaching is primarily what went wrong, all the way from in-game decision-making (not going for it on 4th down in 3rd quarter, loading the box and leaving only a couple of players to run down a player who gets thru the line of scrimmage, horrendous tackling skills which should be basic, etc) to pre-game planning to motivating the team (much like Urban Meyer used to do -- and who beat Harbaugh 4 times). The coaching MUST change or they will certainly get demolished in Nov/23. So Gene Smith has some serious decisions to make or this situation will deteriorate even more.
@tracefowler4753
@tracefowler4753 Жыл бұрын
How cold are you guys.
@JOB1925pk
@JOB1925pk Жыл бұрын
Helps to have a father who was a head coach and a brother as a head coach in the NFL...guaranteed John has had an influence on what the Michigan program has become.
@Jsailor1210
@Jsailor1210 Жыл бұрын
Obviously the last 2 defensive coordinators are from the Ravens. Jim has been running an NFL style defense for the last 2 seasons. Big on the interior, good Defensive ends/OLBs to seal the edge, hybrid safety/corners to tackle in space and blitz. LBs that can cover, and tackle. It’s pretty simple and it’s designed to beat OSU. And it has worked beautifully!
@a.barker7792
@a.barker7792 Жыл бұрын
Really? They suited up?
@davidlemaster2034
@davidlemaster2034 Жыл бұрын
I don't buy it for a second. Ohio State will be just fine. The last two years Ohio State has had a terrible QB. I know, I know, everyone thinks that CJ Stroud is great. HE's not!! He's completely over-rated. He's one-dimensional. He's slow-footed....never runs....and is incapable of running. This makes things pretty easy for a defense in an RPO situation. HE's not dynamic in any way. Sure, he can put up gaudy passing numbers, because against most teams he can stand in the pocket and survey the field. He has NFL receivers that get 5 yards of separation. But when Ohio State plays a team with equal talent, CJ Stroud stinks!! Next year The buckeyes will stomp Michigan, because some hard-luck NFL team will take Stroud off our hands. Don't believe me? Just wait.
@Jsailor1210
@Jsailor1210 Жыл бұрын
@@davidlemaster2034 I’m sure you said Michigan was going to get stomped this year. Don’t see that happening Michigan has a lot of talent coming back next season. So I don’t see that happening
@davidlemaster2034
@davidlemaster2034 Жыл бұрын
@@Jsailor1210 You know what happens when you "assume". negative. I knew we were going to lose. Stroud is horrible. One-dimensional.
@mkwy8782
@mkwy8782 Жыл бұрын
It is a lot of fun for us Michigan fans to have these pieces pop up 4-5 months after the fact...all the weeping and wailing and whining. FWIW, the significant issue for OSU is coaching.
@jimbeaux89
@jimbeaux89 Жыл бұрын
What the hell is up with our team.. Really missing Urban right about now. Our teams under Day have no grit. No drive. All finesse, no power and hunger. No toughness in Ryan Day teams. Also, I blame most of this on our offense. We’ve had one of the best offenses in the country all year. We should’ve at least been able to win a shootout. This is our first year under coach Knowles. Our offense really sputtered Saturday. I really thought we’d be able to put up way more points than they did.
@sheneedsme
@sheneedsme Жыл бұрын
28-3 second half is almost unbelievable. How does that offense only score 3 points with all that NFL talent.
@alexlyon4909
@alexlyon4909 Жыл бұрын
Go Blue!
@Blackcaser51
@Blackcaser51 Жыл бұрын
The coaching at corner and the Offense is the problem
@daveeven8171
@daveeven8171 Жыл бұрын
Strong take it from the weak, but the smart take it from the strong, Give credit to your opponent who has talent, OSU has no respect for Michigan and thought they just would show up and win.
@TiTosTheName23
@TiTosTheName23 Жыл бұрын
It's so easy to shut down the pass with 2 deep safeties if you know the coach across the field refuses to run the ball to win the game. Ohio State abondoned the run yet again and became one dimensional. Ryan Day consistently neglects the run game which is why we have poor RedZone numbers. Then we wonder why we're not great in short yardage situations. Well you neglect the run game everytime and then when you need it your SOL.
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