OJ25 Episode 16 - The TRUE Story of the OJ Simpson Trial (Court TV Docuseries)

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thetrialofthecentury

thetrialofthecentury

3 жыл бұрын

#ojsimpsontrial #ojsimpson #nicolebrownsimpson #rongoldman #truecrime #courttv #OJ25
A gamble by the defense backfires when a fitness video made by O.J. Simpson within days of the murders is used to undermine their claim that he was too weak to commit the crime.
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@jerrybrownell3633
@jerrybrownell3633 2 жыл бұрын
He wasn't so crippled or disabled that he couldn't beat on Nicole. This Doctor needs to be banned.
@christiansoldier77
@christiansoldier77 2 жыл бұрын
Jerry Brownell He didnt beat on her you idiot
@pommiebears
@pommiebears 2 жыл бұрын
@@christiansoldier77 yes…he did.
@christiansoldier77
@christiansoldier77 2 жыл бұрын
@@pommiebears No he didn't. Even Denise said he didn't . Stop believing in media propaganda
@christiansoldier77
@christiansoldier77 2 жыл бұрын
@@TDKiller415 No one beat her. OJ said they would get into fights that would turn physical . He would tussle with her or restrain or push her but not much more than that. The idea he was physically beating her is ridiculous . As big as OJ was he would have broken her bones and smashed her face up if he were beating her. Even her sister Denise said she wasnt a battered woman. This is just one of many lies the media propagated about this case.
@jacksonteller3973
@jacksonteller3973 2 жыл бұрын
get lost troll
@DanoFSmith-yc9tg
@DanoFSmith-yc9tg Жыл бұрын
The thing that amazes me the most is how high quality the video footage is for 95, most things you see from this era are like watching a damn snow globe.
@CIGLLC
@CIGLLC Жыл бұрын
Very good point and I said that as well Very high resolution for that era
@BushidoVXX
@BushidoVXX 10 ай бұрын
TV networks certainly can afford the best hardware available at the time.
@michaelkawell3300
@michaelkawell3300 2 ай бұрын
Remastered
@bgiovannic
@bgiovannic 2 ай бұрын
Not true!
@woodyhayes7402
@woodyhayes7402 2 ай бұрын
Crazier to think footage from this era was very good and as good as today, but only appears cloudy today. 90’s had digital comb technology, which is still good
@wxmyjnsn
@wxmyjnsn 2 жыл бұрын
I still believe OJ did it. As a lawyer you never ask a question you don't know the answer to.
@ThePasterio
@ThePasterio 2 жыл бұрын
Right. But u dont know.....
@kennyryan625
@kennyryan625 2 жыл бұрын
100% The prosecutors in this case were just plain bad
@tobak952
@tobak952 2 жыл бұрын
@@kennyryan625 actually even the defence thought the prosecutors were formidable, they just didnt have a case
@TammyM36
@TammyM36 2 жыл бұрын
Of course he did.
@dickfitswell3437
@dickfitswell3437 2 жыл бұрын
He got away with it cause of the race card Cochran constantly played.
@hbic7659
@hbic7659 Жыл бұрын
Nicole’s dog told the truth!!!
@billbuttlicker69
@billbuttlicker69 Жыл бұрын
It didn’t bark when OJ got there because the dog knew him. That’s not a big deal because literally all the physical evidence points to that piece of shit.
@BushidoVXX
@BushidoVXX 10 ай бұрын
Woof!
@michaelkawell3300
@michaelkawell3300 2 ай бұрын
They always do
@R-L-I
@R-L-I 2 ай бұрын
Well if the defense can’t cross examine the dog then that testimony can’t come in!
@duduchief
@duduchief 2 ай бұрын
Actually that was Oj s dog.. he bought it.. he played with the dog all the time….
@prachikhaladkar5818
@prachikhaladkar5818 2 жыл бұрын
this particular episode is so disrespectful towards the families who lost a member and the way they were murdered. Its such a sad moment when the defence lawyer is cracking up jokes such a shame.
@SheBySherry
@SheBySherry 2 жыл бұрын
Well Nicole was no saint! Her sister and family was down for him in all the $$$$ he was shelling out for her drug addictions and many sexual partners with drug dealers. Please Nicole caused her own death being the bad person she was! OJ got tired of paying off her drug dealing debts! No OJ was no saint, but a narcissist who did love Nicole! Please I’ve no sympathy at all for the Brown family the Goldman family cause all of them were involved and help create Nicole’s death! I will never feel sorry for them. The victim is OJ Simpson. Him being head over heels for this garden tool of a woman he called his wife! He was so gullible which is what a lot of black men do over young white woman who had nothing in common with him but to be a trophy wife on his arm and spending his money like a garden tool! OJ old beat up pigeon toed barely could walk. They went after him cause the husband is always the go to person for killing of the wife or vice versa.
@dickfitswell3437
@dickfitswell3437 2 жыл бұрын
Johnny Cochran constantly using the race card was the worst. Race tension was already bad and him playing the "racist" card really makes me sad. He said it's racist to say a voice sounded black and that you cant tell the difference between a black and white voice which is obviously BS. If you heard Dave Chappelles voice you can tell he's black by his dialect the same way you can tell a person's from the south or is a Yankee. He used the race card as a sympathy getter. Sad
@lisabradford8180
@lisabradford8180 2 жыл бұрын
@@dickfitswell3437this country has a sad and shameful history of white people getting away with murder, not being arrested or charged because of the color of their skin. we can start with the men, scum, who killed emmitt till, found not guilty and admitted later that they indeed killed him.
@jacksonteller3973
@jacksonteller3973 2 жыл бұрын
disrespectful my ass troll, and the prosecution was cracking jokes too(I remember Clark's cringy Alice in Wonderland reference, WTF was that nonsense about?)
@jacksonteller3973
@jacksonteller3973 2 жыл бұрын
@@dickfitswell3437 oh go to hell nazi troll, anyone who unironically uses the term "race card" is themself a racist piece of human garbage, this case was ALWAYS about race you lying POS. It is racist to say a voice "sounds black" fool, it's sad how brain-dead you are.
@artrogue4150
@artrogue4150 2 жыл бұрын
Never missed a round of golf from discovering the game to 2021.
@kellyray3023
@kellyray3023 2 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing how do you grip a golf club and swing it if you are so crippled..if you can play golf you can wield a knife and attack someone..
@michaelceraso1977
@michaelceraso1977 2 ай бұрын
yea this video of poor oj & his "arthritis' really showed how he was still a strong 47 yr old and jogging and punching the air ! gawd what a miscarraige of justice. Im glad none of these dum jurors profited from letting a murderer go free
@ladydoc7221
@ladydoc7221 Ай бұрын
@@michaelceraso1977the jurors don’t let anyone go free…. The legal system conducted this entire process. This is the American system. You can’t reject it just because you think he’s guilty. We have a legal system.
@petrakleine6847
@petrakleine6847 2 жыл бұрын
I never hear more about nicole's dog. The dog obviously was outside when the murders took place . It is a big strong dog a akita i believe. I think when a stranger was atacking nicole the dog would protect her and bite the one hurting her. He didnt because it was oj doing it,his former owner.
@unknown-lf6zx
@unknown-lf6zx 2 жыл бұрын
If dogs could talk…boy he wish he could have
@W.Khairi
@W.Khairi 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting point
@brendalevings2427
@brendalevings2427 2 жыл бұрын
Ive always wondered what happened to the dog.
@tobak952
@tobak952 2 жыл бұрын
so you think the dog would have attacked the assailent, but decided that murdering Nicole was fine because it was OJ? nah
@TammyM36
@TammyM36 2 жыл бұрын
💯 agree
@TammyM36
@TammyM36 2 жыл бұрын
Kelberg was the best attorney on prosecution side
@mesropmadzharyan6727
@mesropmadzharyan6727 2 жыл бұрын
She has two watches she needs help.
@samantarizzi248
@samantarizzi248 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly 😂😂
@jacksonteller3973
@jacksonteller3973 2 жыл бұрын
why?
@Anita-ee4bs
@Anita-ee4bs 10 ай бұрын
Agreed lol
@nurse.christian
@nurse.christian 11 күн бұрын
One of the oddest things I heard here smhh 🤣😩😩
@QuickStix26
@QuickStix26 2 жыл бұрын
This guy makes it sound like he's a crippled. Yet, he was able to bust down Nicole's door and beat the ish out of her.
@ThePasterio
@ThePasterio 2 жыл бұрын
Doors dont hit back.
@christiansoldier77
@christiansoldier77 2 жыл бұрын
QuickStix26 He didnt breakdown the door he damaged the door plus the was just a weak, wooden door. OJ didnt touch Nicole that night. Nicole called 911 and said OJ didnt touch her and wasnt trying to hurt her. OJ was simply yelling because he caught Nicole blowing her boyfriend downstairs while their kids were upstairs. You even hear OJ saying this during the 911 call
@pommiebears
@pommiebears 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone not realise that OJ was “walking like Tarzans grandfather” because he’d over exerted himself by murdering two people?? I bet it really took it out of him. lol.
@pommiebears
@pommiebears 2 жыл бұрын
@@christiansoldier77 a weak door….exterior door?? You really think Nicole had a cheap wooden door, that anyone could snap into, living alone with her children?? Come on now…
@christiansoldier77
@christiansoldier77 2 жыл бұрын
@@pommiebears You idiot It was a screen door
@pommiebears
@pommiebears 2 жыл бұрын
He was walking like Tarzans grandfather…..because he’d just over exerted himself by murdering two people.
@jacksonteller3973
@jacksonteller3973 2 жыл бұрын
no he did not lying troll
@uram9440
@uram9440 Жыл бұрын
@@jacksonteller3973 yes he did it . Stop being biased.
@jacksonteller3973
@jacksonteller3973 Жыл бұрын
@@uram9440 no he didn't, if anyone's "biased" it's you racist nazi POS.
@shannon275
@shannon275 7 ай бұрын
I seriously don’t understand how people can just bust out laughing in any scenario in that court room. Disgusting for the families to have to deal with that.
@iPro3million
@iPro3million 7 ай бұрын
It’s quite simple. People laugh when something funny happens. They are human beings who have spent literally hundreds of hours in court for this trial
@kevinmalone3210
@kevinmalone3210 2 ай бұрын
It's a way to blow off steam, lighten things up. People are human after all and it's not meant to disrespect the murder victims.
@bgiovannic
@bgiovannic 2 ай бұрын
Even seasoned cops will laugh at a murder scene to help lighten the frustration, pain, disgust, etc. The laugh is a deflection to help get through the moment(s)
@MiamiPush2theLimit
@MiamiPush2theLimit Ай бұрын
Ain’t nobody trying to live miserable just because they’re working. Moments of levity are necessary for a healthy life.
@soulovelee_2433
@soulovelee_2433 Жыл бұрын
26:40 so ridiculous.. This case is about two ppl having been murdered, and the attorneys and also ppl on the witness stand were acting goofy af...well those must have been their 15 minutes of fame..
@JC-om4wd
@JC-om4wd Ай бұрын
Disgusting
@chpalmer2007
@chpalmer2007 2 жыл бұрын
Ive seen search and rescue personnel walk over the body of the person they were searching for.. People become quite blind to things they do not expect. The fact that someone will totally miss a crime scene walking by it is absolutely no surprise to me.
@abdulmah72
@abdulmah72 10 ай бұрын
True. But anyone who walked in front of the Bundy property at that time should have heard the dogs barking and/ or wailing. Remember someone testified hearing the dogs wailing between 1015 and continuing until close to 11
@raineyj560
@raineyj560 4 ай бұрын
​@@abdulmah72do you pay attention to dogs barking??? I don't but wailing is a different story
@debbiethompson1697
@debbiethompson1697 2 жыл бұрын
If you have a knife and just hitting with it non stop you dont need alot of strength you have a weapon
@kellyray3023
@kellyray3023 2 ай бұрын
Adrenaline allows you to do a lot of things you couldn't or wouldn't normally do..
@09rja
@09rja 4 ай бұрын
Kelberg should have handled more of this case.
@JL-uo1di
@JL-uo1di Жыл бұрын
Why is judge Ito yelling at the witness like that. These witnesses are not trained to be on the stand and they might be answering questions when it is not the time. They are also nervous as they should be, being on the stand of such high profile televised trial. He shouldn't yell at him like that and he should have apologized.
@michaelappiah3938
@michaelappiah3938 5 ай бұрын
He had already sustained the objection and protected him from answering that particular question. But I agree he should have apologised to him for losing it.
@mikerivera7509
@mikerivera7509 4 ай бұрын
He was tired of that bs
@nicholasjanke3476
@nicholasjanke3476 2 ай бұрын
he did kind of apology. he told the witness that he wasn't mad at him but at the two lead lawyers who were behaving like Laurel and Hardy.
@loufournier5397
@loufournier5397 5 ай бұрын
Fred Goldman nailed the trial in his statement.
@pamelahawkins6361
@pamelahawkins6361 2 ай бұрын
OJ played golf so don’t tell me he couldn’t kill Nicole
@MiamiPush2theLimit
@MiamiPush2theLimit Ай бұрын
He had bad knees!
@slabbusterrtr7690
@slabbusterrtr7690 2 жыл бұрын
Ojs defense team sitting there trying to come up with a lie on how to get out of the excercise vids LOL
@philipwilliams1754
@philipwilliams1754 2 жыл бұрын
The video worked for OJ,he kept complaining about his knee.
@christiansoldier77
@christiansoldier77 2 жыл бұрын
slab busterRTR You idiot. A workout video is for fat, out of shape people so there wasnt anything strenuous done in the video. He wasnt doing anything an elderly man couldnt do. Also he was complaning about his knee in the video. NFL players from the 60s and 70s are often broken down and crippled in one way or another
@09rja
@09rja 2 жыл бұрын
Especially the part about "working out with the wife". :)
@tobak952
@tobak952 2 жыл бұрын
when you have arthritis, it doesent matter if you were fit for fight a few weeks prior- when your arthritis is in flare up, you are debilitated. that workout tape proved nothing
@lesterpaul9657
@lesterpaul9657 2 жыл бұрын
There' s one thing I' m wondering about. Nicole' s neighbor statet he heard a young man' s voice yelling hey hey hey. Obviously Ron Goldman. So he was not surprised by an attacker and if I' m right, Goldman was a good karate fighter with a black belt. Wasn' t he able to disarm the attacker and knock him out? My conclusion is he had no chance because of two men involved in the crime.
@sharonharrison3611
@sharonharrison3611 3 жыл бұрын
This was a race and fame case. Absolutely. That's why OJ was acquitted. He was guilty as could be!!
@AR-zm8kd
@AR-zm8kd 2 жыл бұрын
OJ was acquitted because ONE cop ( furman ) lied on the stand , perjured himself then took the 5th , was caught on tape being a racist and possibly planted evidence , like later on we found out he had done before….. and because the other cop ( vammatter ) took blood home in his car instead of turning it into police custody , per regulations , and who knows what he could had done with that. It’s called. ; REASONABLE DOUBT. moron
@jacksonteller3973
@jacksonteller3973 2 жыл бұрын
no nazi troll
@Solitude47152
@Solitude47152 Ай бұрын
No, he was found Not Guilty
@aisle_of_view
@aisle_of_view Жыл бұрын
Jay Leno would show "The Dancing Itos" as a comedy gag repeatedly throughout 1995.
@kevinmalone3210
@kevinmalone3210 2 ай бұрын
I remember that. It was hilarious, especially the part when they separate, and out from the center of the Itos, comes Marcia Clark, who goes into her own dance routine. 😅😅😅
@infonomics
@infonomics 2 жыл бұрын
04:11 - OJ supporter: "his joints swell up *his hands swell* ". So his hands swell. Interesting. Maybe OJ took medication for the swelling. Maybe sometimes he didn't take it.
@christiansoldier77
@christiansoldier77 2 жыл бұрын
Noumenon OJ was taking his medication while in jail. It was documented
@DanoFSmith-yc9tg
@DanoFSmith-yc9tg Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I can usually tell the race of someone by their tone of voice, selection of words, and accent, even if you claim you don’t have an accent, you do, everyone does.
@09rja
@09rja Жыл бұрын
True. I can spot southern black accent a mile away. (Same with southern white.)
@nattyps3160
@nattyps3160 Жыл бұрын
@09rja so true. I'm from 20 min no. Of NYC. I felt I had no accent that I could clearly here in someone from queens Bronx or Brooklyn. I'm from a suburb in Westchester. So when I went away to school at university of Massachusetts immediately how people from mass. Talk is very noticeable. How they pronounce the word "talk" sounds like " tok" or car sounds like " ca" being the only new Yorker in my dorm they all said how I spoke sounded so different. So I asked how & they pronounced that I said " talk" like " tawk" or the word " call" was cawl I never noticed this til they all mimicked me. Very funny how easily in even close states in proximity or even a county how different accents are. Like Brooklyn the Bronx & queens even staten Island are all close to together Burroughs of the same city NYC obviously & u can immediately tell the difference. I thought being from a suburb I didn't at all sound in anyway but being in mass esp when many people at My school were from all parts of the state not just say a Boston accent I thought they all sounded exactly the same but then they told me a Boston accent is very different from an accent in a different part of mass like a " southie " accent or whatever was very different than an Amherst or Dorchester or Wooster mass accent. Just funny how many accents within different counties let alone states. Like all southern accents sound the same to me but I'm sure a Florida accent is different from Georgia. My cousins moved in their late teens to Florida & within a couple years theor accents changed & it drove our family nuts b/c we figured they were just overly copying to fit in or be cool cause gimme a break ur in ny 20 years & in a year u have some southern accent ? Their are people from other countries who are in America 30 to 40 years & still have their German Italian Greek Irish accents.
@95Ldunc
@95Ldunc 6 ай бұрын
While I would agree that one could surmise a geographical accent, to say that you can tell a person’s race (just by hearing them) is all based on unfounded stereotypes of what you expect a person from that race to sound like. If you heard a British accent from someone over the phone could they only be Caucasian? What about a Black person with a British accent or an Asian person?Presuming to know about someone based on their tone of voice and choice of words is a dangerous game to play.
@mikerivera7509
@mikerivera7509 4 ай бұрын
@@95Ldunc and racist as hell to boot
@Riyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@Riyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 2 жыл бұрын
Are we allowed to laugh in court room? It really disrespectful.
@snowinblood5243
@snowinblood5243 2 жыл бұрын
They were murdered in a matter of seconds.
@chriswilgus4752
@chriswilgus4752 Ай бұрын
It took more than seconds my friend... probably at least 10 minutes. 4o stab wounds and throat slashing doesn't take seconds. It was pre-meditated, and Ron gold man was just happen to be there.
@snowinblood5243
@snowinblood5243 Ай бұрын
@@chriswilgus4752 10 min is a long time for a vicious attack to take place, a minute maybe 1:30.
@JOHNNYSGIRL1960
@JOHNNYSGIRL1960 Жыл бұрын
Everyone with arthritis has different levels of arthritis and not everyone is always in pain. Sometimes it's off and on. I know because I have severe arthritis!!!
@gnas3390
@gnas3390 9 ай бұрын
Exactly, rheumatoid arthritis flares up and is unpredictable but maybe this was unknown in 1994, i dunno.
@N4divers
@N4divers Жыл бұрын
I think Nicole's dog was barking around 1030pm because it heard someone outside. Thats why Nicole opened the door with a knife then closed the door and placed the knife on the counter. OJ hit the buzzer to get her outside and when she partially opened the front gate he ambushed her. When she was down thats when 34:16 eyewitness Robert Huizenga heard Ron say "Hey Hey Hey" because he say Nicole down and unfortunately OJ got Ron immediately with the knife. Nicole was down the entire time. I think OJ went there planning on hurting Nicole very badly. He was going to use the trip to Chicago as an alibi. The murders had to have taken place between 1035pm and 1045pm. Thr prosecution had the wrong time but OJ still commited the crimes in my opinion.
@iPro3million
@iPro3million 7 ай бұрын
“The murders had to have taken place between 1035pm and 1045pm”. That is only true if your assumptions are correct
@sgoody334
@sgoody334 Жыл бұрын
Has anyone told this juror that he is clearly biased?? I would like for him to be viewed by 50 independent NON BIASED people and show him how biased he really is
@pzwestern
@pzwestern Жыл бұрын
oh shut up
@dompit9535
@dompit9535 7 ай бұрын
ofc you can tell if its a black mans voice or white mans voice, its just facts not racism
@tombreckinridge6218
@tombreckinridge6218 2 ай бұрын
Never heard so much laughing in a court room especially given the circumstances. Ito was a joke and had no control of his court room.
@stacie4170
@stacie4170 7 ай бұрын
I’m busted up too. Lies lies and more lies on behalf the MURDERER named ORENTHAL
@Recolatt
@Recolatt 3 жыл бұрын
Dark out walk through gate OJ immedetly charges with knife by the time your brain figures out what's happening it's to late
@Gold_gyrl
@Gold_gyrl 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@Anita-ee4bs
@Anita-ee4bs 10 ай бұрын
Yep, and soon as his femoral artery was severed it was game over
@alexandriaasanders402
@alexandriaasanders402 2 жыл бұрын
So she was being abused since 1978 and nobody thought to save her? Because he had money they didn't help their sister.. so sad , had they stepped in I believe she would be alive today.
@lifewithcarrie88
@lifewithcarrie88 Жыл бұрын
Right...when Denise was telling about her experience at the party where he was yelling and physically hurting Nicole I would take her to my house and he would never see her again. Her family could've done more for sure.
@julief634
@julief634 Жыл бұрын
@@lifewithcarrie88 Absolutely!! Seems like that whole family was relying on OJs money and fame and with that comes enablers...smh! No disrespect to the family but it's pretty obvious that there was a lot of enabling OJ's abusive behavior, maybe because of cognitive dissonance and the need for things like Nicole needed things too, sometimes these co-dependent types put up with abuse and manipulation for survival or because they have children with the narcissist sociopath partner. I would run the first sign of abuse! I've learned to stay away from crazy making people, have enough of that in my family already.
@samuelguest1384
@samuelguest1384 Жыл бұрын
There had normal arguments
@BushidoVXX
@BushidoVXX 10 ай бұрын
@@samuelguest1384violence is the opposite of normal in a relationship.
@terrellhopkins9205
@terrellhopkins9205 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta disagree with Cochran that you can tell the difference in voice between most black men and white men. 😂
@tamsmith291
@tamsmith291 2 жыл бұрын
@@jvanek8512 he was very switched on for sure.
@pommiebears
@pommiebears 2 жыл бұрын
@@jvanek8512 Cochran also mocked Clarke because she had childcare issues, remember?? So, he wasn’t that woke.
@lesliedaniels8135
@lesliedaniels8135 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta admit oj looks good
@regaliaretailfashionmerch4314
@regaliaretailfashionmerch4314 2 жыл бұрын
Terrell Hopkins, Cochran is saying we CAN'T tell the difference in voice between black and white people, if you disagree with him, you think one can
@terrellhopkins9205
@terrellhopkins9205 2 жыл бұрын
@@regaliaretailfashionmerch4314 : You can as far as I’m concerned.
@W.Khairi
@W.Khairi 2 жыл бұрын
- to help us advance our defense theory -, A theory indeed
@nanalala9935
@nanalala9935 2 жыл бұрын
He did it point blank periodt
@stacie4170
@stacie4170 7 ай бұрын
This wasn’t a football game DOCTOR. It was the murder of 2 humans over 75-150 lbs smaller than him…while armed and having the element of surprise. Very very different DOCTOR
@gnas3390
@gnas3390 2 жыл бұрын
Odd how Lange is an expert on everything EXCEPT following police procedures and collecting evidence. 🙄
@tobak952
@tobak952 2 жыл бұрын
Lange saying he did it is enough to aquit
@matthewhouse2528
@matthewhouse2528 2 жыл бұрын
And so angry and bitter.
@jacksonteller3973
@jacksonteller3973 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewhouse2528 yeah it's pathetic.
@damienhodges9761
@damienhodges9761 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@flunder50
@flunder50 Жыл бұрын
He also contradictrd himself on the blood. He said there's contamination in every crime scene after it was exposed, yet swore the blood wasn't contaminated. It's a part of the crime scene and probably the most sensitive. So which is it?
@mikeallen292
@mikeallen292 3 жыл бұрын
Objection: Calls for speculation (on Johnnie Cochran being with his wife).... Marcia throwin some shade at Johnnie. Innocent enough but still pretty funny.
@kingdomofanimaria
@kingdomofanimaria 3 жыл бұрын
Context and time stamp
@HectorJW2007
@HectorJW2007 3 жыл бұрын
26:29
@cameron_fairchild
@cameron_fairchild 2 жыл бұрын
😂 that was a good one!
@gnas3390
@gnas3390 2 жыл бұрын
Marcia is a joke.
@jacksonteller3973
@jacksonteller3973 2 жыл бұрын
nah Clark is painfully unfunny, she was totally playing for the cameras, I had a female instructor for one of my criminal justice classes in college and she was in Miami working as a lawyer while watching the Simpson trial and she told the class that she was so not impressed with Clark one bit, she said the trial didn't feel like a real trial because of it. I also read her book and it was the most pathetic self-serving piece of crap i've ever seen.
@topfitnessssss
@topfitnessssss 2 жыл бұрын
OBJECTION!! .. The prosecution is fucking asleep when the defence ask if the guy seen any blood or foot prints in the alley .. IT WAS PASSED SUNSET TIME !! It was DARK .. OBJECTION YOUR HONOUR !!
@yudahwa-ta-seti6075
@yudahwa-ta-seti6075 5 ай бұрын
I wish we had ring cameras back then 😢😢
@TR-IRL
@TR-IRL 2 ай бұрын
I buy glassware for a large restaurant company and an employee cut himself on a glass so I had to testify in a court case, 4 hours on the stand going over tempered glassware and how it's made to crumble vs shatter so there are no chards. Can you cut yourself on a shard, yep, on tempered glass that crumbles, no! They should have had a witeness testify to that fact.
@mikerivera7509
@mikerivera7509 11 ай бұрын
Judge Ito went slam off on Heidstra. Judge Ito put some bass in that voice when he told him to wait
@raineyj560
@raineyj560 4 ай бұрын
Ito was a joke
@kevinmalone3210
@kevinmalone3210 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, it was inappropriate, but Ito explained himself why he did it to the witness, saying it wasn't personal, but he had alot on his mind.
@dbreiden83080
@dbreiden83080 2 ай бұрын
Watching OJ in this exercise video I’m amazed He was such a successful pitch man. He comes off completely fake, ridiculously unlikable.
@Ioncandi
@Ioncandi 2 жыл бұрын
LOL it's really easy to tell a black man's voice.
@manthony777
@manthony777 2 жыл бұрын
On June 11, 1994, Orenthal was dancing with Paula at the $25,000 per plate dinner. There were photos of that night. The woman who organized it was on the stand. Darden was too stupid to ask about the dancing smh
@markwestjr711
@markwestjr711 2 жыл бұрын
There is a difference between dancing and murdering 2 people one of them being an expert in karate in about 10 mins. That line of question would have been immaterial.
@manthony777
@manthony777 2 жыл бұрын
@@markwestjr711 , you didn't watch the trial
@markwestjr711
@markwestjr711 2 жыл бұрын
@@manthony777 you didnt watch it
@manthony777
@manthony777 2 жыл бұрын
@@markwestjr711 , WOW , great comeback. 🤔🙄 lmbao
@UnoCinema-wx3zz
@UnoCinema-wx3zz Жыл бұрын
Someone stepped in all of that blood, but no mention of blood on the GAS or BRAKE pedals . How is that possible ?
@Private-tq5hs
@Private-tq5hs 8 ай бұрын
Bc he took of his shoes honey before he got in his car - it's not brain surgery if you dont mind me saying
@Britta_no_filter
@Britta_no_filter 4 ай бұрын
@@Private-tq5hsBut wouldn’t there have been blood on his feet, like there was blood on the sock in his room? Maybe OJ had an accomplice who drove the Bronco?
@Jmatrixxxxxxxx
@Jmatrixxxxxxxx 3 ай бұрын
@@Britta_no_filter it was on the socks around his ankle...it stopped where the shoe was ..damn people get a fuckin clue .always the same people who say he's innocent and vote for morons because your like alot of people are low information,you don't do the research.
@Chris987-ew3qp
@Chris987-ew3qp 3 ай бұрын
Uno: OJ took off right after stabbing Nicole & Ron to death, they bled out slowly after OJ left.
@pommiebears
@pommiebears 2 ай бұрын
He had walked the blood off from the bottom of his shoes before driving. Blood WAS found on the carpet beside the pedal, from the outside edge of the shoe.
@fastnpray9729
@fastnpray9729 7 ай бұрын
What I don't understand about the prosecution, why aren't they bringing up the fact that even with his ailments, if a car was on a child a mother could lift their car off the child. Pure adrenaline. It's also look like a rage killing I don't recall anyone saying that.
@stacie4170
@stacie4170 7 ай бұрын
So then if he couldn’t lift a 20 lb sand bag…he could not have exerted enough pressure to pick it up. But he could certainly swing a golf club. Requirements being…wrists, shoulders, back, hips, knees etc. So again…this subhuman was just fine and fully capable of murder. Which he clearly was guilty of 😘😘😘
@AprilCampbell
@AprilCampbell 2 жыл бұрын
He wanted to say other than thug. OJ was not a thug.
@terrellhopkins9205
@terrellhopkins9205 3 жыл бұрын
Tanya was manipulated by Denise, especially when comparing her attitude from years prior.
@garrickgregory6403
@garrickgregory6403 3 жыл бұрын
They know a lot more than what they are saying. Denise was dating one of the witnesses, Craig Fiato who was in a FBI witness protection program who dropped a dime on Vannatter. Notice how the Browns especially Nicole’s parents stated she was on the phone with her Nicole at some time past 11pm when this first started. Then later They changed it to 9:37 pm .
@terrellhopkins9205
@terrellhopkins9205 3 жыл бұрын
@@garrickgregory6403 : Yep, but the brown family didn’t want to hand over phone records which could have provided some huge evidence timeline wise to the time of Nicole’s death.
@tula1433
@tula1433 2 жыл бұрын
@@garrickgregory6403 lol you are here too!!!
@garrickgregory6403
@garrickgregory6403 2 жыл бұрын
@@tula1433 yes I followed this case since it began when I was 17.
@jacksonteller3973
@jacksonteller3973 2 жыл бұрын
@@garrickgregory6403 The Goldmans definitely know more then they let on as well, someone asked Kim on Twitter about her having dated Michael Nigg, he was a waiter that worked alongside Ron and got killed in a very similar manner, Kim responded "how did you know that?" and blocked the guy, like she wasn't expecting anyone to actually call her out on her BS. And Fred suspiciously never refers to Marvin Glass by name in his book despite knowing him personally, and Glass was actually the reason the Goldmans left Chicago for L.A. in the first place(as Glass had started making threats against them).
@Berkmugga
@Berkmugga Жыл бұрын
I completely disagree with Johnnie Cochran, I can tell on the phone with a 98% accuracy rate whether the person is white or black. Or from their accent where they’re from, country or part of the country. I can tell.
@claudiasimpson4386
@claudiasimpson4386 2 жыл бұрын
There are tone differences , not all individuals, but the Majority. I can tell the difference over the phone !!!.
@nubopgritty634
@nubopgritty634 2 жыл бұрын
The more I watch this the more I think OJ might have done it.
@janettaanderson125
@janettaanderson125 2 жыл бұрын
YOU HAD DOUBTS BEFORE 😏 WOW.
@nubopgritty634
@nubopgritty634 2 жыл бұрын
@@janettaanderson125 it's a joke
@Nicoletta13
@Nicoletta13 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how much the defense screamed how physically incapable Simpson was to commit the murders . Keep in mind Nicole was knocked unconscious almost immediately . ( Stab wound on top of her head. The left side of her face was also bruised) she struggled very little. Ron had 4 fatal wounds he suffered almost immediately . Stab wound to the thigh compression wound to the abdomen Was also stabbed at bottom of foot. He was also caged in in a very tight space. I don't care if the killer was like "Tarzan's grandfather moving at a snails pace. Ron had no where to run. No matter how he moved twisted to try to dodge the knife .. simpson would not be exerting himself. He had them under control quick. Btw I don't hear anyone screaming about how hard playing golf is. Do they not realize swiniging a golf club takes stamina?🙄
@TupacNation
@TupacNation 2 жыл бұрын
Your right I put my back out swinging a club playing golf.
@jacksonteller3973
@jacksonteller3973 2 жыл бұрын
he was though, the prosecution conveniently left out the part of the tape where Simpson was shown to be in great pain after filming of the video was done. also explain to me how OJ had no scratches of bruises on his body despite Nicole having DNA under her fingernails?
@Gold_gyrl
@Gold_gyrl 2 жыл бұрын
Great Great point
@Gold_gyrl
@Gold_gyrl 2 жыл бұрын
Yesssssssssss those good clubs are very HEAVY
@jacksonteller3973
@jacksonteller3973 Жыл бұрын
@@Chad_Max not true, Glen Rogers did too troll.
@tobak952
@tobak952 2 жыл бұрын
when you have arthritis, it doesent matter if you were fit for fight a few weeks prior- when your arthritis is in flare up, you are debilitated. that workout tape proved nothing
@lisabradford8180
@lisabradford8180 2 жыл бұрын
as a person who has arthritis and exercises regularly, i agree. i've had flare ups that have sent me to the ER on more than one occasion.
@tobak952
@tobak952 2 жыл бұрын
@@lisabradford8180 im sorry you have to go through that
@lisabradford8180
@lisabradford8180 2 жыл бұрын
@@tobak952 thank you. Thank God I haven't had an episode that bad in quite a while.
@randyhanson4973
@randyhanson4973 2 жыл бұрын
The only way that OJ was able to make that video or commit those murders was through the use of strong pain killers. Without the pain killers, like most former NFL football players, he probably had days where he struggled to move normally and other days where he could get around okay
@aisle_of_view
@aisle_of_view Жыл бұрын
There were rumors going around at the time that Kato scored some crystal for OJ from someone who lived nearby the McDonalds drive through where they had gotten burgers.
@amberg1617
@amberg1617 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to consider Huizenga credible - this is the same physician who worked with the “The Biggest Loser” contestants and was approving of how they approached their weight loss regimen, and encouraged risky behavior.
@philipwilliams1754
@philipwilliams1754 2 жыл бұрын
Amber and Fhurman.??
@Gold_gyrl
@Gold_gyrl 2 жыл бұрын
Hold on did Johnny Cochran just say that you cannot tell if a voice is Black or White by listening to them did he say that out his mouth? karma baby
@uram9440
@uram9440 Жыл бұрын
He was just race bating. Black defendant and a white victim. Voice difference between white male and black male should be evidence. It’s a murder case forgot sakes he injects race every second as a smoke screen playing it to majority black jury it’s pathetic.
@verysfinxy
@verysfinxy 2 ай бұрын
Maybe the dear doctor didn't hear the testimony of Nicole s sister telling that OJ has enough strength to throw people down stairs/ out of the house - road house style ....
@SangaWaldron
@SangaWaldron 9 ай бұрын
28:17 - It’s 10:18 you’ve been here all day, and I gotta go outta town in a couple of days” lmao . This lady has a therapist
@raineyj560
@raineyj560 4 ай бұрын
She had no filter 😂
@jblue705
@jblue705 2 ай бұрын
Lol, right? 😂😂😂
@Christ_theking333
@Christ_theking333 2 жыл бұрын
All the witness from the defense are pre-conditioned to favour the defense. May be they were payed to answer in their favour 😠
@jacksonteller3973
@jacksonteller3973 2 жыл бұрын
get lost troll
@valerieficot313
@valerieficot313 Жыл бұрын
Can someone explain to me why the jurors were sometimes (often?) removed from the Courtroom while pieces of evidence were discussed ? (We do not have such practice in French criminal proceedings). Thank you !
@MUFC1933
@MUFC1933 Жыл бұрын
I’m British and have no idea why x
@valerieficot313
@valerieficot313 Жыл бұрын
@@MUFC1933 ok, thank you Ally
@rrh1980
@rrh1980 Жыл бұрын
Because they dont think its legal or appropriate or relevant and they dont want it on the jurors' minds
@valerieficot313
@valerieficot313 Жыл бұрын
Ok thank you. Then, I consider that it is arbitrary and no fair trial either for the accused as well as for the victims.
@rrh1980
@rrh1980 Жыл бұрын
@@valerieficot313 Seems like it could be...but its up to the judge. In this case he always seemed to side with the defense.
@kennyryan625
@kennyryan625 2 жыл бұрын
Darden was a lousy attorney
@SethMacLeod95
@SethMacLeod95 2 жыл бұрын
Very poor temperament
@JohnKlanac-yo5bq
@JohnKlanac-yo5bq 9 ай бұрын
You go up against the dream team and see if your temperament is even
@Britta_no_filter
@Britta_no_filter 4 ай бұрын
@@JohnKlanac-yo5bqThey’re the nightmare team if you’re a member of the prosecution.
@UnoCinema-wx3zz
@UnoCinema-wx3zz Жыл бұрын
Smh.
@bergencounty6602
@bergencounty6602 2 ай бұрын
The defense team was just so much more talented than the prosecution team. If the prosecution had their own Johnnie Cochran, then they could have made it a stronger case to overcome reasonable doubt. Marcia Clark needed better teammates than Chris Darden.
@jaunenito
@jaunenito 10 күн бұрын
If you have seen the crime scene photos then there's no way in hell ONE person could inflict this amount of damage alone. Impossible without any significant amount of blood anywhere else.
@rachelmenillo2136
@rachelmenillo2136 2 жыл бұрын
Its amazing to me that jury found him not guilty when he clearly is! Johnnie Cochran totally made it about race, and so glad he got his karma!! But in the end the worst thing that could’ve happened to OJ did, people hate him and no one pays attention to him his rep is ruined for good!! That what that narcissist deserves!
@AprilCampbell
@AprilCampbell 2 жыл бұрын
It was about race. Mark Fuhrman is a dangerous man who had testified on record of doing exactly what was done to OJ. They have groups called WAP and switch and other nazi racist white supremacy hate groups. They had surveillance on Nicole. They had been literally watching this woman with her house under surveillance and those are notable facts. Nicole should never have gotten mixed up with Fuhrman or the Colombian drug guys. OJ would have to pay her cocaine tabs. That’s why he was at her house screaming at her. 💜💜 Rheumatoid is very painful. Osteoarthritis is too. I’m very young and got diagnose early as it’s a genetic thing. You simple do not have the gait or strength.
@rachelmenillo2136
@rachelmenillo2136 2 жыл бұрын
@@AprilCampbell sorry you have RA but the truth is he did it, he beat her for years and she told everyone he was going to kill her there was too much evidence against him there were no other suspects Furhman is def a racist but no way all the blood was planted he was in a rage and killed her and Ron period
@keenenedmond7508
@keenenedmond7508 2 жыл бұрын
So glad Cochran got his karma? He was a damn good attorney who was doing his job. I HATE SHALLOW MINDED PEOPLE. I hope you have the same energy towards these prosecutors and our broken court system in this country who allow countless innocent ppl to rot in jails all across this country . I'll never condone oj actions it's disgusting and disgraceful. But oj getting off bc he was wealthy and famous doesnt compare to the 1000s rotting away in prison bc they didn't have the ability to defend themselves against our justice system. THE SYSTEMS BROKEN!!
@aprilpuglia7967
@aprilpuglia7967 2 жыл бұрын
What karma? Girl shut up and go away
@cheldosarmiento2733
@cheldosarmiento2733 2 жыл бұрын
What karma?
@louisbadillo2734
@louisbadillo2734 2 ай бұрын
Pay attention to what I am about to say . O.J. Children will pay for his sin’s . Karma !
@Prometheus4096
@Prometheus4096 2 жыл бұрын
30:20 No Shit sherlock, the defense brought them in. Someone drive past the murder scene 10 minutes before it happened with their car radio on. They did not hear anyone yelling and they did not see the blood inside a passageway inside the garden.
@jacksonteller3973
@jacksonteller3973 2 жыл бұрын
quiet troll
@stacie4170
@stacie4170 7 ай бұрын
I can limp…on command.
@simonepeterson3301
@simonepeterson3301 2 ай бұрын
This whole case just boggles my mind how can someone kill 2 people, with hardly any scratch, puzzling,then there was.blood evidence ,so oj simpson was definitely at.the.crime scene
@grammylisa1
@grammylisa1 2 ай бұрын
That Johnny Cochran was a snake.
@DrEasy2727
@DrEasy2727 2 ай бұрын
Black Mamba! That man was a boss! #whoisaware ❤️✌🏼✊🏽🙏🏽😎
@drewdonaldson722
@drewdonaldson722 Жыл бұрын
Kelberg should have more involved in the prosecution. Probably would not have mattered but you never know.
@stacie4170
@stacie4170 7 ай бұрын
Probably because ORENTHAL over exerted himself in the commission of double murder. That would make me sore too!
@goldenstatewarriors9418
@goldenstatewarriors9418 7 ай бұрын
Man, imagine if people knew about CTE during this time period. Might’ve changed everything. Though of course, that knowledge could’ve changed a lot.
@tombreckinridge6218
@tombreckinridge6218 2 ай бұрын
Correct and all the interviews after this OJ clearly was not behaving like a normal person would. He had all the signs of CTE
@hus390
@hus390 9 ай бұрын
Workout video of light work and many stops and rests and retakes!!
@kevinmalone3210
@kevinmalone3210 2 ай бұрын
The doctor ended up with egg on his face.
@MichaelHansenFUN
@MichaelHansenFUN 8 ай бұрын
3:12 wonderland
@lorendaranae7223
@lorendaranae7223 Жыл бұрын
Ohhhh his hands swell up?? That's why the gloves fit so snug🤣
@pommiebears
@pommiebears 2 жыл бұрын
Two watches? I call that attention seeking. No one ever needed two watches. Ridiculous.
@oldironsides4107
@oldironsides4107 2 жыл бұрын
People used to wear several watches on a single arm believe it or not people thought it looked cool.
@TammyM36
@TammyM36 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure that’s attention seeking but more OCD
@c.l.freeman7654
@c.l.freeman7654 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the gloves that don't fit be cut in the corresponding place on his finger? Never heard about gloves being cut
@Private-tq5hs
@Private-tq5hs 8 ай бұрын
The glove might have fell off his hand before he was cut by the knife
@iPro3million
@iPro3million 7 ай бұрын
The left glove was on the floor
@j.m.5744
@j.m.5744 Жыл бұрын
These cops and reporters can say all this shit now for this program but the facts are the police did a sloppy job collecting evidence, the prosecution did a terrible job presenting their evidence, and OJ beat the case. If I'm being honest, I believe OJ killed Nicole and Ron but if I was on this jury I would not have convicted him either. Mark Furman found all of the "crucial" evidence while alone and wondering around. In my opinion this is extremely suspicious considering his past attempt to be awarded an early retirement pension because he was experiencing racist thoughts. He absolutely could have picked up a glove and dropped it on OJs property. It didn't even look like anyone had been back there, especially a big man who was crashing around.
@kennethcharles1386
@kennethcharles1386 Жыл бұрын
Many people who believe as you do, it's an honest opinion, but the question will always remain, why were the police planting evidence to get a conviction; that little tiny spot on the Bronco door, and then Vannatter lying about shining his flashlight inside the Bronco and seen blood on the door panel and on the right side console was another problem. He seen all that through those dark tinted windows???? They went inside that car how else could Mark Fuhrman see blood inside underneath the door paneling???? and the glove at Bundy was dried and the glove at OJs house was moist and sticky! That's why detective Lang wanted to see the other glove to make a comparison, because he knew something was wrong, but they underestimated the defense team and their rich client who now was investigating the police and the evidence. That's why Mark Fuhrman pleaded the fifth amendment, because he just knew that the prosecution and the police were going to flip on him. This was about a lot of things including race, but remember who brought it in? Three white women even before the case got started they complained about Mark Fuhrman's racist attitude, but they chose to ignore it, until those tapes surfaced and it was a lot more then just hating Black people. Its what he said about what he would do and what he has done. Even judge Ito's wife was mentioned by Mark Fuhrman and even with the trial in progress Fuhrman was still in collaboration with the writer Laura Mckenny for almost ten years, and the District Attorney's Office didn't know this? Most white Americans have no idea whatsoever what the race card means. Most whites think that if a Black person accuses a white person of being a racist, that's the race card. The effects of Racism was so deeply rooted in this case that neither a Black or White Judge was willing have tried this case. That's why they used judge Ito, but just like OJ Simpson, judge Ito was married to a caucasian woman who was the top female officer in the police department a higher ranking position than the detectives involved in this case made her a target by Fuhrman plus being married to a Chinese American. You could say the same thing about the civil case that was really a mock murder case just to satisfy the public. A quote from Johnny Cochran ( They were hoisted by their own petard.) Shakespeare's Hamlet..
@Private-tq5hs
@Private-tq5hs 8 ай бұрын
Furman didn't have anything to do with OJ's blood on the scene at Bundy. Although the glove should have been thrown out that he found since he hopped a gate without a warrant to get it and knew damn well oj was a suspect at the time. But then he might have been found guilty had they won the motion to throw out the glove furman was oj's gift from god.
@annemontanaro3795
@annemontanaro3795 2 ай бұрын
So what the defense was saying was that because Darden was a black man he should automatically support all black men irregardless of the history between OJ and Nicole or these murders.
@ikediamond
@ikediamond 10 ай бұрын
Fred Goldman still thinks that OJ is a time bender
@johnmcclean343
@johnmcclean343 Ай бұрын
Sad fact Nicole's dog smarter than anyone in the jury
@olit13
@olit13 Жыл бұрын
defense team just take the L man. they sound so bitter with all there could’ve, would’ve, should’ve arguments
@ThePasterio
@ThePasterio 2 жыл бұрын
I want that impressed with the workout video he did for $$$. No marks from getting hot by Ron. Who knew karate. Ron's knuckles were bruised up from hitting someone
@Anita-ee4bs
@Anita-ee4bs 10 ай бұрын
The coroner’s report said Ron’s bruised knuckles were consistent with ‘flailing’ against the metal railings he was next to
@sreggindrawkcab8341
@sreggindrawkcab8341 2 жыл бұрын
oj should have let the guy go.
@petrakleine6847
@petrakleine6847 2 жыл бұрын
Nicole deserved wat happened to her????why because she left oj?
@duduchief
@duduchief 2 ай бұрын
she said she looked at the cut on his hand and then said "whats going on" huh..... a cut on the hand?? seriously ?
@UnoCinema-wx3zz
@UnoCinema-wx3zz Жыл бұрын
No surveillance video of OJ leaving the hotel after checking in ? Wondering the halls holding objects ?
@rolandbullock6444
@rolandbullock6444 Жыл бұрын
Ito trying to be tough is comical......okay short guy .....we hear you, but we're gonna keep doing what we're doing
@loufournier5397
@loufournier5397 5 ай бұрын
It’s apparent Walsh had been coached to answer certain ways by the defense.
@yudahwa-ta-seti6075
@yudahwa-ta-seti6075 5 ай бұрын
And so wer several prosecution witnesses.Mark Furman was coached by miss Clark
@loufournier5397
@loufournier5397 5 ай бұрын
@@yudahwa-ta-seti6075 ah yes. It always comes back to Fuhrman. Nevermind the mountain of evidence. You obviously were in the minority of fools who fell for the defense’s game of hide the ball.
@yudahwa-ta-seti6075
@yudahwa-ta-seti6075 5 ай бұрын
@@loufournier5397-Just explain how blood stains witha lab chemical( EDTA) from both victims ended up staged in the Juice's 🛏?watch episode 18 or 19.
@yudahwa-ta-seti6075
@yudahwa-ta-seti6075 5 ай бұрын
@@loufournier5397 -Mark F discovered that bloody glove,and Mark was near that bronco that was unsecured for weeks before being towed away. How about the staged bloody socks?
@shugstobin7331
@shugstobin7331 6 ай бұрын
What about the DNA?i know that DNA was new & not alot was known by the public. But they explained it's accuracy. So I'm confused with the jury. Also injecting race was a giant judge mistake bc it tainted the jurors.
@amarano9725
@amarano9725 5 ай бұрын
The nerd with two watches lol Planted by the defense
@stacie4170
@stacie4170 7 ай бұрын
I should’ve taken my career counselors advice to pursue law. I see all…hear all…and keep my mouth shut until the opportune moment.
@Britta_no_filter
@Britta_no_filter 4 ай бұрын
You can still pursue it!
@630unc
@630unc Ай бұрын
I didn't know John Landis was the prosecutor on this case no wonder they lost.
@Gold_gyrl
@Gold_gyrl 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he broke the glass after he heard about the murders of his wife and her friend his ex-wife and her friend
@Not_So_Favre
@Not_So_Favre 2 жыл бұрын
Well I go to McDonald’s once or twice a week! Does that mean I live there hells no
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