The kid is 17. If SHE was the one who got pregnant, the parents would be all OVER her for throwing her life away to raise a baby at that age. But what they are trying to do right now is essentially condemning her to that very life--raising THEIR baby!

Story One: The GF needs some serious therapy, as it sounds like she has gone through some sexual trauma relating to familial relationships. If they want children, is she never going to hug her child? That isn't normal. Not being physically affectionate is normal, but you can't sickeningly imply that two brothers hugging goodbye is sexual... that is in her head.

If I don’t hug n kiss on the cheek my family goodbye is literally seemed as disrespectful in my culture 😭

Story one he just have him a goodbye hug, most people do this with family and friends when they leave

2:18 So… I grew up with large amounts of family on both mom and dad’s sides. Both sides were huggy and kissy, though neither side was extra cuddly. If OP’s wife was squicked by a hug between brothers, it doesn’t bode well for the couple, imo, not without some serious help.

0:05: All her husband did was hug his brother, and she freaks out about it? She simply needs to accept her in-laws are affectionate towards one another and get over any hang-ups she has about this. There's nothing wrong with how either of them were raised, as long as they are able to otherwise function in their lives. 3:23: It's a shame he has to essentially raise another man's child when he already has a child of his own to raise. Instead of his wife forcing him to play the role of Harper's father, Jennifer needs to stand up to her husband and force him to be a father to Harper. I hate to think of what's going on in that family. This sounds like it's not going to end well, one way or another. Yes, it would weird me out too to buy a Mother's Day gift for another woman. 6:00: She is absolutely not obligated to cook for his friend if he was so inconsiderate to be late because he ran into his friend and spent an hour drinking at the bar. If he's so concerned about his friend going hungry, maybe he should be the one to cook for him. 7:53: After being an only child for the first sixteen years of her life, her parents are having another baby, and now they actually expect her to sacrifice her life to be a live-in, unpaid babysitter to her baby sibling? She's right to look for a way out, or, at the very least, charge them for the babysitting. Obviously her parents didn't plant this out very well. The parents are the selfish ones here.

1. NTA. The wife needs therapy. 2. NTA. He's not the father! 3. NTA. Is that bf for real?? 4. NTA. What is up with these irresponsible/neglectful parents!?!

she would die if she went in my country and saw that everyone kisses everyone's cheeks lol

For story one I think the wife is not being fair to him. I totally agree with you on 1:50. From what was said the narrator has try understand how she was raised not judge her for it (obviously) and accomdate accordingly. He at least deserves the same respect. I think it immature for to equate most physical acts of intimacy for romance. A son or daughter could give their parent a kiss on the cheek and would not be the same as a person giving their partner a kiss on the cheek. Especially something as harmless as giving your brother a hug too.

I have a perfect story for this. My dad got really sick yesterday. My grandma had to take him to the ER. They made me stay home even though I wanted to go with them. Beforehand he had went to smoke a cigarette, which I didn't think he should do. He could barely walk, I had to help him up the stairs. 8 could hear him puking. It didn't help the fact I have saver emetophobia, anyway they went to the ER, my grandma's phone decided not to work. So I sat there alone for 5 hours not knowing what was going on. I thought he was going to die, non of my friends answered my texts. I was alone and scared thank you to the doctors who helped him. Thank you mom for answering my hysterical phone call. Thank you grandma for bringing him to the er.

Yikes. I dont like the wife in the first story. Reminds me of my brothers abusive exwife who would also flip out if my brother hugged us. Its not healthy to restrict your partner from showing affection from friends and family. Husband needs to either leave the wife because thats abusive or he should get her therapy.

tbh if she says op from the first story is biased, she needs to reflect on hee biases too. anyway i understand her because i'm not used to physicsl affection- the parent who raised me didn't really hug me or say they loved me, so when the other parent did (divorced), i always felt weird. i let ppl know my discomfort w/ certain things early on tho, but i do not let that affect other ppl's relationships. i mean srsly, a hug?? she needs to work that out herself.

If your healthy boundaries regarding crucial things like getting to eat and getting to sleep is conciderd "rude", RED FLAG. She shouldn't even be in the position where her being pleasant to the friend means she is giving up sleep or food (because she had already delayed eating for the bf, and ended up not eating at all).

S1: Did the gf never go to friends’ houses or sleepovers or see people with their families in public? Even siblings who don’t like each other hug coz, in some families, parents make them hug it out after a fight. Her reaction is weird af and the poor OP is being severely gaslit if he actually believes he was raised differently from most people S2: It’s tough to set boundaries with friends, but if the wife is completely unwilling to try, that means she values her friends over her family = red flag. It’s not even about Harper, it’s about Emma and making sure your own daughter is prioritized over someone else’s. Bit weird that the wife is okay with her husband buying gifts for someone else’s wife and child, too S3: Something is suss here. He might’ve been hanging out with his friend for hours before he was supposed to arrive, so why did they not just buy food at some point? Even a snack or some light take away would’ve made sense. Expecting her to still be waiting for him an hour later and assuming he’d even be welcome to eat with her doesn’t add up, coz you’d know your partner would be mad even if you were drunk S4: Idk why these parents are keeping the second kid, but I’m glad the OP is standing up for themselves, lots of kids get trapped as their siblings’ babysitter for years and can’t get a job, get into school or find a way out as a result

Story two there’s a difference in helping out when they need it and raising someone else’s child For the dance class thing, driving her would be helping out but paying for it seems like a bit much (mostly because dance classes are expensive) and I know my parents only let me have a friends over one weekend a months (summer was an exception) Story 3 I feel like the boyfriend was the rude one.. I mean no being an hour later and no warning and he wants her to cook more at 9:30 pm and she was being rude somehow?? Like she literally just said to give the friend her plate which probably meant she didn’t eat dinner.. I personally wouldn’t do that for an unannounced guest Story four: she is getting called selfish for having a head start on her future… it sounds like they didn’t even really raise the first child well (as in emotionally).. it’s crazy to me that people actually think this okay.. I understand watching your siblings for a few hours when the parents are out for whatever reason but not to where they have to quit school activities to do so

I as a child also grew up without any physical affection from parents so I feel uncomfortable with proximity with most of the people. But other people hugging doesn't bother me as much 🤔🤔

Like the dude in the first story I was raised very affectionately by my mom and grandma (not my dad, don’t want get into that). Cuddles, hugs kisses etc. still do with my mom as grandma isn’t here anymore. But I couldn’t be with someone who thinks me giving my mother affection is weird.

Story 3: I think the gf should've reminded the bf "I'm not ur personal chef, I'm ur gf." Guy really expected her to be ok with his friend barging in on their date night and expecting gf to make another serving of food But good news! There was a slight update: the friend apologized to OP and said it wasn't right of him to come over when he wasnt invited personally by OP and just taking his friend's word that she'd be ok with it. As for the bf, they had another fight so it looks like OP might break up with him

Second story....I don't think the wife would be ok if he was also to replace her best friends husband with said best friend, so why is it ok to make him fill in for the father. He has a right to family time and bonding time with his daughter. It's not his fault if the friend doesn't get her marriage together or take the consequences.

Story 3, it wasn't even his home, it was her place that they came over to.

Ok but like for the 2nd story, does Amber not realise that this is going to be the start of Jennifer having some sort of attraction to OP??? Like, does sis knows that if OP continues to treat Harper like it's his daughter, there's a likelihood that Jennifer will soon feel that OP is a better husband compared to her current husband At this point, if Amber finds out that Jennifer has a liking towards OP (or even starts to have an affair), she better be blaming both of them, cause she's the one that caused it

My great grandfathers were always showing each other affection in front of my brother and I. Now, whenever my brother or I is leaving for somewhere, we give a hug and a "be safe". Thats normal. Not showing any affection to your family isn't And BTW, my family (not including grandpa, Abuelos husband) is all from Mexico. That's not only a normal amount of affection, but it's in our culture to give kisses on the cheek and hugs to family

Story 1. I would have asked that family to leave because they are in MY home, so to speak. Story 2 makes me think that there was some shit happening in the background in her family because she is overly reactive. Third story, yes, the deadbeat should step up, BUT it is a kindness to look after the child and think of the child. Period.

The first one 💀

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“I understand the way I grew up was unusual” I… saw nothing in that post that indicated the way OP grew up was unusual. He… was taught to hug his brother? That seems pretty run of the mill to me.

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That woman freaking over siblings/relatives hugging each other when in my country we not only do that but also kiss each other on the cheeks and some times it's happened to be on the lips too and no one has any problems with it....if she sees that she'll have a mental breakdown lmao Also, she's telling him he's "biased" because of the way he was raised....but then isn't she also biased because of the exact same reason? Or her opinion and feelings are the only valid and true thing in the world? The hypocrisy is off the charts.

Can i get the link to the 1st story on reddit

Story one: I know for me personally I am not really physically affectionate with my family or really anyone because of the fact that I was heavily abused, especially sexually. However, I would not use that to prevent those who do express physical affection towards their family members. I don’t know why OP‘s girlfriend is doing that to him! It’s not his fault that the girlfriend can’t separate romance from physical affection. She needs a lot of help and I hope she gets it Story four: I’m so proud of the 17-year-old for standing up for herself and refusing to raise a kid that’s not hers. I am the oldest daughter in my household. When I was super young, I had to take the responsibility of coparenting my siblings with my parents because they were emotionally immature and because they decided to have seven kids at 21 together before they divorced, which was really stupid. I regret it a lot, but there’s not much I could really do about it unfortunately. I was pressured a lot to step forward. I hope the 17-year-old is able to get out of there soon.

I understand why the guy is annoyed raising Harper, but I personally wouldn't mind doing it.

I would 100% totally be against this because that 16 year old has got a life of their own too, and plus their about to go to college soon. It's the parents fault because they should not have been being so fr*sjy.

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That woman from the first story is extremely disturbed and OP needs to get away from her ASAP. If she already equates him hugging his brother with him having a sexual, INCESTUOUS relationship with his brother, then what the f is she going to think if they ever have kids and he shows even a margin of physical affection towards them? I'm calling it now, she's going to accuse him of being a p*dophile. He's going to have to walk on eggshells and deprive himself of any physical contact with anyone except her for the rest of his life if he stays with her. Get out of there man!😢

My mom is the very affectionate type. She hugs me and kisses my cheeks every chance she gets. I never found it weird because I thought that's just how mothers are, that they're supposed to show their children love. So when this guy's wife says it's weird, I'm like o_0

Extra guest for dinner? You At Least buy a side-dish on the way to GF's house so both of you can re-arrange and stretch the two meals into 3. Hold up, the BF and GF don't live together? Boyfriend's the AH.

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There is a difference they can do child care and I'm sure has a support system but some single.mothers habe no.choice but to get the oldest to watch the others for a couple of hours when the system is takin forever for child care they are trying to provide for the children and have literally no support system

My grandma kisses her family members on the lips, so my dad does too. He used to peck me on the lips when I was younger, it always freaked my mum out but I didn't think it was weird until I started going to friends houses and noticed it didn't happen there. My family is very christian and my grandma grew up with it being normal, which means my dad grew up with it being normal, so I grew up with it being normal. As I grew older it started to seem weirder, especially when people came over, so I don't do it anymore. My grandma still lines up all of her grandkids and kisses them on the lips though, all of us think its kinda odd but she grew up in a different time, besides we've all got good at getting close, swerving and tucking our heads into the gap between her shoulder and head before she can do it.

I'm sorry but that guy can just fricking cook for his own friend. How entitled to expect someone else to cook for you _again_ because you were over an hour late to a planned dinner AND brought a guest over without warning. He should cook for his friend then. I don't understand why if _he_ invited the friend for dinner that _he_ can't provide said dinner himself. If _his_ guest wants to be fed/is expecting to be fed, why does someone else have to cook the food for him? He is a grown adult. _He_ can cook if _his_ friend is that hungry, otherwise don't deliberately invite him over. Or is he (the bf) one of those people who is not able to do anything himself? And the part where he said his friend felt unwelcome... yeah man it's nearly 10pm, and you come over uninvited expecting to be fed by someone who has already been waiting. You are imposing on someone in their home at that point. But she even said the friend could have her food. Also how rude to be that late and to just bring someone to a dinner that was supposed to for just you two. Without even letting your partner know why you're late or that you're bringing someone. That girl has way too much patience and shouldn't let him guilt trip her. She did nothing wrong because it was not her responsibility to cook/host for the friend - she wasn't even aware he was coming because her boyfriend didn't even say anything. They are the rude ones, not her.

Ok I understand wanting your kid to be present in their new sibling's life, but they are just a kid. The parents are the grown ass adults - old enough to already have a nearly 17 year old - and _they_ were the ones who were irresponsible enough to get pregnant even when they KNEW they didn't want more kids. It is _their_ responsibility to take care of _their_ child. They can't really expect someone else to just drop everything to take care of _their_ child which they didn't even want, especially not a minor. I understand older siblings babysitting their younger siblings now and then, that is normal and happens a lot especially with older siblings who are already adults and/or are actually consenting to babysit. But not literally caring for the baby for hours everyday. It's not right to make their kid basically raise their baby because they were irresponsible despite being aware they didn't want kids and weren't good/"natural" parents anyway. Also this person is/was in high school. What about homework and studying? How on earth are they supposed to get anything done when they have to go to school all day then come home to care for a newborn and raise it. It's not selfish of the person to not want to do that - like they said, they aren't the parent. They aren't even an adult. It shouldn't all be on them to raise this child. If their parents love work so much they don't want to take care of their own new baby - and didn't want one anyway - they should have been more responsible to not end up pregnant again. That is on them. They are the selfish ones to make try push their "problem" onto a minor - another child they don't seem to care for much. Also, are they just never going to spend time with their newborn or do anything for it other than pay the money?

Christ do the last story parents not know what a condom is? And if they only wanted one child, why didn’t they get sterilised? There are so many ways to avoid pregnancy or get a termination if you do get pregnant when you don’t want more kids. But their solution is to abandon it on someone else who’s only 17 themselves? The way some peoples thought processes go is shocking sometimes.

on the 1st story: i agree with ellen and the poster that the wife needs to work it out on her own it's common pretty much most places to hug your family and kiss them on the cheeks i understand why she can't separate physical affection from romance because in japan you normally don't hug or kiss anyone if you're single and if you're in a relationship/married you hug or kiss the person that you're in a relationship with/married to when you're home and no one else is there when you do it on the 2nd story: the poster's right because harper isn't the poster's biological kid and harper's bio dad isn't really being a dad and making some other guy raise them on the 3rd story: the poster shouldn't feel guilty for that it's the boyfriend's fault to why she reacted the way she did the poster had to go to work in the morning it was close to 9:30 pm when the boyfriend and his friend showed up and the boyfriend didn't let her know that he invited the friend like it's NOT her responsibility to cook for his friend when SHE wasn't the person to invite them over for a meal on the 4th story: was the pregnancy unplanned? if it was i'd understand why they'd tell the poster about wanting free child care from them considering that even with using protection there is still a 2 percent chance of unplanned pregnancies but also i believe that the poster shouldn't have the responsibilities as a parent when the poster's parents are the people bringing in another human into the world and i agree with the poster that they have their own life as well

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How are you doing sweetie? How are you feeling? In the very first story, I am the exact same way with all of my friends and family, and I hug and kiss all of them every single chance that I get because life is just way to short to be stand-offish around your people. I am sending you a virtual hug too Kyutie!! That's her husband's parents and they can be as affectionate to him as they want to be and that's also that man's brother too. I definitely wouldn't like it at all if I had a wife like this because I am a huge hugger, and the last relationship that I was in we were always cuddling, kissing, and just talking to each other. There isn't anything wrong at all with parents showing their children love and affection from time to time. I kind of feel bad for her though. In the second story, I understand him helping out few times by taking Harper out along with his daughter but after that he just has to put his foot down and said I just want to spend time with my daughter and daughter only. Why doesn't Jennifer just divorce her husband if he's that lazy then? That was a very bad move completely because Jennifer isn't even his wife so why is he buying her a Mother's Day card? Why is Amber acting like that because nothing bad at all has happened to Harper's dad, he's just lazy and Jennifer is still married to him to by the way. In the third story, the boyfriend has got some nerve for inviting his friend along then he also has the straight up audacity to tell her to make more food for his friend. She should've just kicked the both of them out right then and there. She doesn't have anything to feel guilty about at all because was just preparing a very intimate dinner for just the two of them. The boyfriend is just so very disrespectful for choosing to have drinks with his friend over having dinner with his girlfriend. I love you!! Have a great day!! Stay safe!!