( .. We all know the Willis Tower is taller than 1 WTC, F’ that damn “spire”) … of course the residential behemoths that have sprouted up in Midtown in recent years have overtaken everything; I myself have always gone strictly by roof height which is the REAL true measurement

@@billkittleman9631it’s the SEARS tower

There is no economic reason to ever built anything taller than the SEARS tower. Anything taller than SEARS is just purely about ego.

sears tower roof already taller than 1wtc roof. spire ain't shit. if it was, than count the TV mast in Nebraska

​@@billkittleman9631those things are fucking hideous! Wish they could have built something that reflects the Empire State building or Chrysler building.

Well they can make it tall by rebuilding the twin towers back to 3000ft

@@r62aguy85 That would look so egregious in the skyline

@@videocollectorguy that would be the biggest middle finger to the Middle East and the antenna could symbolize as the middle fingers to those middle easterns.

without spire its third tallest in the country so it is really tall

spires should never count.

Exactly. The new WTC is an Orwellian joke…

Twin towers are over rated. The Empire state building and the Chrysler and Woolworth buildings are better.

Twin Towers was like a earlobe, they where just there

​@@pp3k3jamailThe same guy that built the empire State building also built the bank here in Oklahoma City it looks just like the empire State building similar

@@pp3k3jamailthe Empire State Building is massively overrated twin towers are underrated besides they were special because they were twins you 🤡

Another boomer

@@joshcorley9607 There is a truth though that New Yorkers often think their opinions matter more than they do. They think people should care what they think, and to be honest, living in Colorado, I have no reason to consider what a new yorker thinks at all. Also, pride in a building just because you live near it? I have pride in something I helped engineer as a practicing engineer, but it's weird to tie ego into something you didn't even contribute to the creation of

​@alexlarson2466 fr bro, I'm just happy to get a tower in my city (though I doubt they'll do the big one, probably just the three smaller ones and a slightly bigger one if anything. Theyve proposed many things over the years that never happened

And believe me people in New York don't even know what Oklahoma is LOL

@@strongman410 congrats on being uneducated then

The magic stick?

@@ripclaybourne yeah, Harry Potter’s wand.

The freedom stick

The factory antenna

Never diss The Freedom Stick.

Oil and gas...why am I not surprised!!!

@@Ruddermeister Headquarters of global WTI.

Sorry we are talking about skyscrapers.

This skyscraper is sending a message to the world.​@@benjaminingram4857

Yeah, but Tulsa is the oil capitol of the world.

Lib

@@zo62 That's not even a word. If it's some critique or slur, that what is it complaining about -- that housing is getting more affordable?

@@brianarbenz1329 🤫

@@brianarbenz1329lib

Pretty easy to be affordable when you’re an ice cube…

Towers like this are some of the strongest architectural achievements mankind has ever made. There are many documentaries. Explaining the process.

What’s ou?

@jdos5643 OU is the university of oklahoma, both OU and the university of Texas have a huge football rivalry

@@ohwaitchristian oh

Sooners are better than longhorns. Even Arch manning can’t save them.

Texas is going to get destroyed in the SEC lol

It’s a spire not a antenna

No the Central Park tower at 1550 feet physically is 100ft taller than willis

The OWTC's antenna doubles as a spire, and spires officially count, and antenna don't, as long as you're talking architectural height, but since the OWTC's is both, it still counts. If you're talking total height, which counts everything (hopefully not lightning rods and maintenance equipment, that'll just be stupid,) then the OWTC still wins. If you're talking highest roof height, then Central Park Tower in NYC wins. If you are talking highest floor, then I have to point out how much I hate that way of measuring building height, and will refuse to answer any further. So no matter how you measure building height, NYC comes out on top among US cities in 2024.

@@HelpICantThinkOfACleverNamecan One Physically Walk to the top of the “spire” on Freedom tower ?

Central Park Tower is taller, or at least it's listed at 1550 to "the tip". Willis Tower is like 1450 without counting its pole on the top. Central Park Tower actually has two listed heights but I'm not sure why.

Tornados never sniff the metro downtown area. Lived in Oklahoma my whole life. Tornados hardly ever get past the suburbs. The wind is an issue but downtown never has gotten a tornado EVER

These are built to survive tornados

The building is like 10 times taller than a tornado could even get.

⁠@@jfinity_362false, there’s been multiple tornadoes hit the the downtown area over the past 100 years, the last of which occurred in 2000. Thankfully said tornado was rated a F0. I think we’ve just got extremely lucky, and are well overdue for a destructive one. No way you can rule that out, if you’ve lived here your entire life then you know it’s a possibility.

That tornado didn't do damage. It weakened after getting through the suburbs. It was winding down. I lived in downtown.@@Dman1998

A house built of sticks is even worse.

@@ayoutubechannelname😂😂 a house made out of box is probably worse too

Tornadoes are very vulnerable to buildings

They've survived tornadoes before 2:06

Tornado magnet. 🧲 🌪️

Salty about Oklahoma?! 😂😂😂 You're dillusional!!!

But? Oklahoma City,OK is Smack Dab in the Middle of Tornado Alley. Plus They Have those Strong Severe Thunderstorms with Hail and Lightning. If Built and Completed It’ll Be the Largest and Tallest Known Lightning Rod in History

Lmao I’m not even from New York but trust me no one and I mean no one is salty about Oklahoma

I sometimes forget Oklahoma even exists if it wasn’t for the OKC Thunder.

1 tall building ight bro💀💀💀💀

But the common sense is strong! lol

The sad thing is that they probably would’ve built this building in NYC if it hadn’t become such a heIIhole in the past several years

Right. These internet cornballs are lame AF. Hating just to be hating.

well then they should build it

Sadly all the designs they have for WTC 2 are super ridiculous. SMH...

I think they want 1 wtc to be the tallest in the wtc complex though, considering it’s design and how it’s supposed to be “symbolic” and such.

Have you seen Chicago? Take your blinders off. As I recall there’s a huge hole in the ground where the 150 floor 2000’ tall Chicago Spire was going to be built en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Spire

@jamesthompson9876 I wanted to emphasize that constructing a building of this height in a remote location will make it look like an eyesore because the surroundings don't complement it. Just like those casinos that are randomly built off the highway. If you build this building in a city such as Chicago or New York, it would still stand out, but it would blend in better.

@@ar3421You can fix that by upgrading the surroundings. It’s called development.

A sideshow attraction is what it’ll look like. The rest of the city would never catch up to that height. Hell a building that size would stand out in Los Angeles or Houston and they’re cities numbers 2 and 4.

@@ayoutubechannelnameHow many thousand foot towers do you think OKC will build? You don’t even have a million people in the city. Be realistic.

If I'm 5'3" and grow a 9 inch mohawk. Does that make me 6ft tall?

Right?! I would’ve excepted Chicago, San Francisco, Seattle, Huston, LA or even Miami!! I would’ve never excepted Oklahoma City 😂

No one ever expects it to be OKC. Same goes for our NBA team, no one thought we could host an NBA team... I mean, you know how that went.@@beasley1232

@@beasley1232We don’t GAF what you expect. Apparently it’s a reason why they are choosing to build there and none of those cities that you mentioned.

OKC just installed a light rail/trolley system, so..

@@PrimeRibb69 While it's a start, it's really not sufficient on its own. However, OKC has a fantastic legacy rail viaduct running right through the center of the city that's connected to existing rail ROW's that run through many suburban and exurban communities. With a relatively low investment, these corridors could be upgraded to build a frequent suburban and intercity rail system. From there, it would be great to see new streetcar lines, but also some proper, fully grade separated, elevated light metro to serve the busiest urban corridors. Along with an extensive freeway system, OKC also has quite a few suburban roads with over six lanes, meaning most of them can support BRT Gold Standard Busways to connect to rail stations beyond the core metro region. OKC has some serious potential to build a great transit network, especially when it comes to mainline rail, but it needs to be advocated for and built.

As someone from Asia, I would hardly call NYC's public transit capable of supporting the city

@@alexlarson2466 We're playing by American standards here, so we have to make do with the best we can until hopefully we can eventually have decent transit systems.

Big deal, just build extra underground parking

🎉 it’s an I dare say A Disgrace

Yes I agree. And they should have called it the New World Trade Center, not the Freedom Tower.

Agree. Instead, we built WEAKER. 😢

​@@JeanEDeauxhow is it weaker? It is taller, and is much stronger than the ugly squares we previously had

@@CoolEdo they may have been weaker but they were cool and bold, just wish the new tower had that same boldness

A man of culture.

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@@skool_Lunch what’s the question?

@@AnixCo1990 you want to rebuild the twin towers 2,001 ft tall 💀 and them be more castle like? With a spire like the Empire State Building except gothic?? And corner spires on the south tower 💀with a giant statue of an Eagle that would inspire Chicago somehow? I’m just confused with all the contradictory designs going on

@@skool_Lunch it’s a good design, the giant gothic spire would be complimented by the smaller gothic spires of the south tower. And the construction of those towers would likely reignite the race for the tallest building in the world between Chicago in nyc.

The twin tower should never be rebuilt! I know people who died in there! That would be a huge slap in the face!

They do, but not as bad as the poop / needle infested streets of west coast cities.

@@tylerkriesel8590 lmfao, clearly you never been to the Bronx, Queen, or even red light district. Plenty of bum poop, and rats to go with it. 🤞🏼

@@tylerkriesel8590 nyc has bum and rat poop all over 💀

NYC Blows and That’s why it’s the Best

It's a pretty silly pursuit. I live in NYC. Not many people here care about having the tallest building. The need for bragging rights is restricted to commercial real estate developers. I do appreciate good architecture. The goal of heights dilutes good design potential in most cases.

​@@markrichards6863so true. Lack of responses speaks for itself.

@@Ruddermeister It's simply about edifice envy. Beyond a a certain height, it's all the same to me. I experience architecture mostly from the ground. The truth is most tall buildings are just tall, don't offer anything interesting to the pedestrian. One WTC and Willis tower come to mind.

The fear tower.

Yes it is but no matter where a tornado would happen, skyscrapers would most likely still be standing. The only ones that wouldn’t would be ones with structural problems already to begin with but that would be few and far between

@@lakerskid2013 even if the building stands, what about broken glass being thrown about?

@@redstone5062 That’s true, but that’s an issue that could happen with any skyscraper

@@redstone5062there’s glass that can survive tornadoes which they will use

Hopefully this spurs the building of additional skyscrapers in OKC though, because one massive skyscraper all alone would look strange I know OKC has some tall buildings like any city does, but nothing else THIS tall

​@@coyotelong4349devon tower finally has a friend

@@coyotelong4349OKC doesn’t even have a thousand foot building. This would stick out for the next 300 years.

Because no one else is supposed to have Super talls and attention but them , Chicago, Miami and Atlanta, it’s called self centered.. get my drift my friend..🧐😂😜🏢📸

Coming up from what??? Poverty??

You realize places like Chicago when they built their tallest it looked massively out of place being triple the height of everything around it, it takes time but the skyline would fill out just like what happened to Dubai, Chicago, and New York when they made their tallest

@@-OAK- Ok City Skyline is nothing like NYC, Chicago and cannot be compared to cities like Dubai. These cities gradually built their skylines up, not plunk a tall bldg. in an already small existing skyline whose economical standings barely scratch the surface

@@juicyfruit4378 you realize all of those cities built a skyscraper that was so much bigger than their surroundings and once after building that more skyscrapers came in, look at the sears tower in the 1970s it was the triple the size of everything around it, it wasn’t until after it was built skyscrapers started to be built, and Chicago has been on a decline in population for like 60 years, and it still grew its skyline so why is one of the fastest growing cities the country and the one said to have the most potential not capable of doing that. the Empire State in the 1930s was bigger than everything next to it now it’s average looking, the berj khalifa was literally built by absolutely nothing, less than there is in OKC, and once it was built sky scrapers in the area skyrocketed. Literally Dubai had waaaaaaaaayyy less towers than OKC in 2005 the reason it’s skyline is big is for building a tall tower. Almost every city that builds a tall tower like this gets a big skyline from it.

@@-OAK- In the case of Chicago and NYC, their skyline evolved much earlier and had numerous mid-level buildings before the larger ones arrived. Both cities, being the first and 3rd in the nation had and still possess much more economcal clout than OK City had back then to include the present times. In fact, OK City will not grow or "catch up" to either of them in the near or distant future. As previously stated, both NYC and Chicago's skylines grew steadily and not with sporadic tall buildings; rather it was gradual rise in skyscrapers not an intermittant or infrequent one like the building being propsed in OK City contrasting with the existing small and short skyline. A city's population trend, has no correlation to Ok City's proposed skyline; however, since you mentioned it, according to the UN and Fortune, the projected population grownt of US Cities growth for 2030 is as follows: NYC, LA, Chicago, Houston, Dallas-Fort Worth (Metroplex), Miami, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Washington D.C. and Phoenix. Source: www.newgeography.com/content/004464-un-projects-2030-us-urban-area-populations#:~:text=The%20Largest%20Cities%20in%202030&text=The%20top%2010%20would%20remain,of%20Phoenix%20is%20particularly%20impressive. 5 fastest-growing cities by population change 1. San Antonio - 21,970 2. Houston, - 21,365 3. Atlanta, Ga. - 12,052 4. Dallas - 11,669 5. Washington, D.C. - 8,023 NOTE: Oklahoma City ranked at 15 with 3,989. Source: fortune.com/2024/05/16/fastest-growing-cities-2023-census-bureau/economy-USA/regional-353YzL4%top8 Again, irrelevant information as the city's economical clout is what generates it's skyline, due to property prices increase and employment, in turn, usually causing population growth. OK City property prices are amongst the cheapest in the US, and has much open space to grow outward versus upward. Also, the city does not contain one Major Fortune 500 Headquarter according to Forbes outside of Hobby Lobby. Under the GAWC, OK City is listed under "Sufficient City" way below cities in it's regions like Dallas and Houstin which are listed as Beta +. These regional Beta cities draw away from OK City as their economical clout overshadows OK City to certain extents. Oneok is the first entry of any Fortune 500 Company in the state of Oklahoma ranking at 173 and it's located in Tulsa. Source: www.50pros.com/fortune500 Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalization_and_World_Cities_Research_Network OK City will eventually build it's skyline gradually as most cities have done; however, back to the original topic and which most agreed to on this blog is that a large skyscraper of this size being built onto an existing small skyline looks disproportionate to a city that currently lacks the economical clout of it's much larger regional neighbors, let alone cities like NYC, LA, Chicago and has much land mass available at below-average cost in most urban areas across the USA to build outward versus upward. Hope this helps.

@@juicyfruit4378 guess I’ll have to get back to this comment 10 years after the building is built to see who’s right

It’s not a destination city for you. Speak on your own city. Since you’re talking, where are you from? So I can tell you if my Oklahoman ass ever desired to visit your city?

You realize city have to grow to get to that status’s 60 years ago going to Vegas made no sense, this is the kind of thing that would make it a city to visit in the future

new york and chicago aren’t the only cities that have tall buildings in the US lol. They’re the ones that make the most sense 😭

@@nombretaken9467 this is what I meant by the way lol

yeah why not build a giant building in a literal cornfield

@@MrStevenAttilaNo legit I understand them building it in cities like houston, miami, seattle, san francisco, Los angeles, NYC, Chicago, Austin, Dallas, Boston, Atlanta, Jersey city, Philadelphia or maybe even vegas because they all have the skyline for it 😭 But like oklahoma city?!?! It’s the most random place soley because it doesn’t even have a skyline it’ll look like seoul but even then at least seoul is bustling metropolis with some small skyscrapers 😭 Oklahoma city just makes no sense for this tower at all

@@nombretaken9467Seoul South Korea? They have tall skyscrapers man!

You forgot to mention man it looks like a giant hypodermic needle to me

10th tallest by state having their tallest bigger than cities like Minneapolis and Boston, it’s the Devon tower at 844ft