Oktavism & Basso Profundo Compilation

Oktavism & Basso Profundo Compilation | C2 - C1

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“Simply put, the term oktavist is most precisely used to refer to basses that sing down to contra B flat and lower in a choral setting. Basso profundo is Italian in origin, and has a long history of clear definition within the operatic tradition, being subdivided into the categories of lyric and dramatic. While the term basso profundo comes from Italy and the opera tradition, oktavist has its roots in the choirs of Russia.”
Information, videos and notes taken mostly from the Oktavism channel. Big thanks to them for existing.
A compilation of some significant low notes from oktavists and the like.
There are inevitably mistakes in this video. Please let me know of any you find.
I don’t own the music, videos, photos, or anything in this video. Sue me.

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@mcmerry2846 3 жыл бұрын

0:48 pure gold

@iizvullok 4 жыл бұрын

By far the best low note compilation ever.

@Robin-ij6ks 3 жыл бұрын

Not the lowest but the post powerfull in that oktave

@reubenthomas7907 3 жыл бұрын

There was a post on face book , asking if Avi Kaplan, TimFoust, Tim Storms and other acapella basses could do Oktavism( without extend techniques). Elliot Robinson's response to this : Definitely no. Also I learnt from Jay Fleming ( Oktavism channel) that Eric Alatorre's voice is so resonant that it causes YOUR chest to vibrate, if you were to have a conversation with him . Elliott described Alatorre's voice as Stupid( In the best way). If Elliott, a bass with such a great calibre , speaks like that, you can only imagine the depth of these guys voices.

@matthewdockray9745 3 жыл бұрын

Yah I know lol I’ve read it haha

@reubenthomas7907 3 жыл бұрын

@@matthewdockray9745 Yeah, knew you would have. This was mainly for others. If there's ever an Avi kaplan, Tim Foust ,etc Basso profondo discussion, I'll copy paste this.

@matthewdockray9745 3 жыл бұрын

Reuben Thomas honestly I think weirdly Geoff would be the most useful for Oktavism (even though he’s possibly the least basso Profundo of the 3) cuz of his subharmonics though we’ve never heard him project them

@reubenthomas7907 3 жыл бұрын

@@matthewdockray9745 True. He said he that his subharmonics isnt that useful offmic, but hes getting there.

@johndeeregreen4592 Жыл бұрын

@@matthewdockray9745, I've heard VoicePlay live at a small venue and Geoff's subharmonics are oddly loud... you could hear him slightly unamplified in with the sound system. I have an overlap of my chest and use of subharmonics around E1, which my E1 sub is stronger, but my chest-fry is stronger at C#1 than my subharmonic is... but on-mic, the subharmonic sounds better. Geoff's subs, again, are WAY stronger than I expected.

@parsifal40002 3 жыл бұрын

Have you noticed Russian Orthodox liturgical music features oktavist voices? Russian czars seems to love the low notes in their music. LOL

@user-ry7xy5zm7d 2 жыл бұрын

See how the baritone takes notes from the counter octave: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h8WEaqaltb6Ve2g.html

@kashfiaislam9995 6 ай бұрын

King Louis XIII had a splendid bass voice. King Louis XIII could very easily hit a C1 note since he was an oktavist. 🎭🩰🎨

@blueelliss101 3 жыл бұрын

1:50 - Dimitri Tikhonov (aka Alexander Liver)

@MatteoBlooner 4 жыл бұрын

6:50 how in the world does someone hold an F#1 for 45 seconds?!

@matthewdockray9745 4 жыл бұрын

He stops and takes a quick breath every 10-15 seconds or so, but it’s so seamless it sounds like 1 note. Eric Alatorre is incredible

@reubenthomas392 4 жыл бұрын

@@matthewdockray9745 The only thing more badass than that sustained F#1 is the mustache on him.

@onecolossalrubikscube2554 3 жыл бұрын

If I did that in chest It might be possible

@leopirdas6577 3 жыл бұрын

I almost got there myself... Really good breath management

@mcmerry2846 3 жыл бұрын

I try that in chest, i feel my chords will explode after 8 seconds

@reubenthomas392 4 жыл бұрын

0:52 ,I've seen other true basses(who can project a low C and lower in choral settings) sing this part of the aria 'Der Rosenkavilier', all them sound good, except when they sing the low C. Barring Moll, most of the other's low C sound like a barely audible croak, not at all musically pleasant. Only a true basso profundo like Moll could project the low C so effortlessly ,at the same time making it sound musical.This just goes to show how demanding opera is.Moll could go down to a decent low F(F1), and he has a recorded Bb1 'O Sancta justitia ' , and the video of the it is here on KZfaq.I know it's an unfair comparison but if Geoff,Tim or Avi were to sing this, Geoff and Tim wouldn't be heard on the last note, and Avi's usually beautiful and melodious C2 would sound like somewhat audible burp/croak.I can only imagine what it must feel like to hear Moll blast first octave notes in resonant rooms/halls.

@Kornelius-xb6er 4 жыл бұрын

Or Mihail Zlatopolskiy with his C1 over the choir.

@reubenthomas7907 4 жыл бұрын

@@Kornelius-xb6er I was talking about operatic basses, my man. Mikhail Zlatopolsky was a choral singer. He has nothing to do with the comment.

@onecolossalrubikscube2554 3 жыл бұрын

Well I can project a low E Not a low C

@iicydoesnt7397 3 жыл бұрын

i mean it's still good none the less, impressive as all hell as anyone that can reach that far down is few and far apart

@loneranger5654 3 жыл бұрын

@@reubenthomas7907 He actually sang good bit of opera in his younger years, so don't be so dismissive if you don't know what you're talking about

@thegolgatha5337 2 жыл бұрын

Superb (!!!!!!) compilation, thank you !!

@Robin-ij6ks 3 жыл бұрын

Ort's Eb1is pretty clean

@colefountain1030 4 жыл бұрын

Damnn the B1 at 1:28

@matthewdockray9745 4 жыл бұрын

Massive

@Marcell0Bass 4 жыл бұрын

He’s actually summoning Satan

@onecolossalrubikscube2554 3 жыл бұрын

SyosnamanonynaPi pa pi pa pimirosna hamu hamoooooooooooonisyAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

@brianweeks87 3 жыл бұрын

@@onecolossalrubikscube2554 dhu'ukavozuugo zhoplaajuuquugh

@onecolossalrubikscube2554 3 жыл бұрын

@@brianweeks87 I just want to know the words to this timestamp

@ailtonsouzadearaujojunior2210 4 жыл бұрын

1:55 Tikhonov! 3:00 Voicu! 3:17 I don't know, who is that one? 4:44 Gdeshinsky!

@matthewdockray9745 4 жыл бұрын

Zlatopolsky is present in 3:17

@ailtonsouzadearaujojunior2210 4 жыл бұрын

@@matthewdockray9745 He sounds a bit different here.

@matthewdockray9745 4 жыл бұрын

Ailton Souza de Araújo Júnior i believe others are also present, but Zlatopolsky is confirmed to be on the recording. Video was taken from here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pcVzerih1N-0dWQ.html

@ailtonsouzadearaujojunior2210 4 жыл бұрын

@@matthewdockray9745 Who is singing the oktavist part in 7:41?

@matthewdockray9745 4 жыл бұрын

Ailton Souza de Araújo Júnior best I can say is that Vladimir Miller is in the section kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oat5oNGIvNPWiY0.html

@ortodox56 4 жыл бұрын

Bravo !

@user-ry7xy5zm7d 2 жыл бұрын

See how the baritone takes notes from the counter octave: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h8WEaqaltb6Ve2g.html

@brianweeks87 3 жыл бұрын

From 8:32 to 8:37 is intense!

@redgit9905 8 ай бұрын

I’m guessing that’s how it feels live

@reubenthomas3065 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome compilation bro!! How come I didn't see this?

@user-ry7xy5zm7d 2 жыл бұрын

See how the baritone takes notes from the counter octave: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h8WEaqaltb6Ve2g.html

@user-cz1cz8oc7y 3 жыл бұрын

Cool

@brianweeks87 3 жыл бұрын

I would love to hear/feel oktavists recordings played at 60% speed

@jeromem.evardome10_kr15 4 жыл бұрын

They sing better than the singers these days

@user-ry7xy5zm7d 2 жыл бұрын

See how the baritone takes notes from the counter octave: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h8WEaqaltb6Ve2g.html

@gilbertpangyarihan8014 3 ай бұрын

אינטרגלקטי מוסמך!🌹

@tropicjam7343 3 жыл бұрын

From f sharp one,it really sounds like a double bass;it s impossible to hear the difference with human voice up to me.

@user-ry7xy5zm7d 2 жыл бұрын

See how the baritone takes notes from the counter octave: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h8WEaqaltb6Ve2g.html

@reubenthomas7907 4 жыл бұрын

00:26, has many people singing a C2, but to my ears there is a C1 in there as well.

@onecolossalrubikscube2554 3 жыл бұрын

Theres only C2

@reubenthomas7907 3 жыл бұрын

@@onecolossalrubikscube2554 Ah, must be some kind of undertone effect due to many powerful C2's.

@onecolossalrubikscube2554 3 жыл бұрын

@@reubenthomas7907 well I cannot sing that low but there possibly is an undertone

@GeorgeCarlin88 3 жыл бұрын

same is here. i can reach c2 and b1 but my c2's like c3, and profundos c2's like c1. i think the reason of difference is profundos speak voices are bass too, my speak voice not bass.

@reubenthomas3065 4 жыл бұрын

Wish more people saw this Where are the usual badam b ,Scraggs and others ?

@colefountain1030 4 жыл бұрын

Probably haven’t discovered Matthew’s videos yet

@reubenthomas3065 4 жыл бұрын

@@colefountain1030 when they see this its gonna blow their minds.

@goh2121 Жыл бұрын

I was trying to sing along, but had to give up at F1. Even F#1 I couldn`t hold for very long.

@mardedalir6519 3 жыл бұрын

What is the track at 9:07 ?

@daniel9918 3 жыл бұрын

Someone pleaassee tell me the name of the song at 1:14

@user-mw9mi7yy7f 3 жыл бұрын

just word "Amen"

@gab3w0rl3y9 3 жыл бұрын

Otche nash

@daniel9918 3 жыл бұрын

@@gab3w0rl3y9 thank youu

@t.j.p.8183 3 жыл бұрын

3:40 can anybody give me a link to the original video?

@ailtonsouzadearaujojunior2210 3 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ac56aLJzlb6Wlp8.html

@t.j.p.8183 3 жыл бұрын

@@ailtonsouzadearaujojunior2210 Thanks!!

@ailtonsouzadearaujojunior2210 3 жыл бұрын

@@t.j.p.8183 You're wellcome.

@bilbolaggins2431 3 жыл бұрын

What is the ensemble/song at 1:13?? I need to know!

@user-mw9mi7yy7f 3 жыл бұрын

Bilbo Laggins just “Amen”

@JVspeexPL 3 жыл бұрын

Its zlatopolsky in russian chamber choir

@napoleonbonaparte9227 3 жыл бұрын

0:22 what's the song?

@user-mw9mi7yy7f 3 жыл бұрын

Iberian «The evening sacrifice” P chesnokov

@ShredMentor 3 жыл бұрын

Who are the ensemble at 1:00?

@matthewdockray9745 3 жыл бұрын

‘Ensemble aria’ They’re lead by pavel Myakotin on bass, who’s also the oktavist for the kovcheg ensemble

@yitivitzen5239 4 жыл бұрын

Anyone else use videos like these for practice?

@ShredMentor 3 жыл бұрын

I do now!

@mcmerry2846 3 жыл бұрын

Yes...im still 23 but well i hope my voice will get fully trained for my early 30's

@brianweeks87 3 жыл бұрын

I use these to match the notes in pitch and duration.

@user-ry7xy5zm7d 2 жыл бұрын

See how the baritone takes notes from the counter octave: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h8WEaqaltb6Ve2g.html

@haam7961 2 жыл бұрын

와우...

@MrSejjy 4 жыл бұрын

Who’s the absolute monster at 8:33?

@matthewdockray9745 4 жыл бұрын

I’m sorry but I’m unable to find the original video. I believe they might’ve been Serbian(?) the video (I think) was under 2 minutes long and was more of a solo chant than a piece of music. Sorry I can’t be of more help. If you ever find it pls let me know

@ailtonsouzadearaujojunior2210 3 жыл бұрын

His name is Alexander Nazarov. His extremamely low notes aren't good, but he has a good Bb1.

@matthewdockray9745 3 жыл бұрын

Ailton Souza de Araújo Júnior thank you for helping me find it, I spent ages looking for it and never found it again lol This is the clip kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p71npbp0vNjWYp8.html

@tropicjam7343 3 жыл бұрын

@@ailtonsouzadearaujojunior2210 i thought this was glenn Miller.

@ailtonsouzadearaujojunior2210 3 жыл бұрын

@@tropicjam7343 Glenn Miller is right after.

@Lytterenape 3 жыл бұрын

10:21, что за песнь? What is the song?

@lol-or5sf 3 жыл бұрын

We have no other help

@cirilo7218 3 жыл бұрын

"Не имамы иныя иныя помощи" , автора не помню. Это хор русско-американский

@ChAndreyG 7 ай бұрын

@@cirilo7218 Б. Ледковский

@aladdinshabanov5079 2 жыл бұрын

Who was that G1 around 5:41

@ailtonsouzadearaujojunior2210 2 жыл бұрын

Probably Alexey Gdeshinsky.

@andrefaria2766 3 жыл бұрын

Can someone linked me a video on 3:27

@matthewdockray9745 3 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/as9iorZklZOsoKM.html

@andrefaria2766 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks bro

@departamentedc564 4 жыл бұрын

9.17. Who is it?

@matthewdockray9745 4 жыл бұрын

Departament EDC this is the link to the clip, but apparently it’s an unknown oktavist kzfaq.info/get/bejne/edJ4Y5uUmae4gYE.html The clip after is Zlatopolsky

@_generation_youth_x28 4 жыл бұрын

What’s the difference between oktavist and basso profoundo in range?

@matthewdockray9745 4 жыл бұрын

That’s kind of a hard question to answer as they’re both different things. Basso Profundo is a voice type. Oktavist is a role within a group (singing the bass part an octave lower). I think generally a Basso Profundo needs to be able to project a Bb1 (according to Glenn Miller), though this does vary with definition. An oktavist’s range is sort of irrelevant imo as long as they can hit the notes. Pavel Myakotin of the Kovcheg ensemble is the oktavist for their group yet he is only a baritone, but uses subharmonics and strohbass to achieve the low notes. An oktavist’s part goes as low as the performer is able to I suppose. I’m not too sure on any of this so checking out Oktavism.com might be helpful and have the answer you’re looking for, but it’s probably good for someone in the oktavist role to have a G1 in their range

@_generation_youth_x28 4 жыл бұрын

Matthew Dockray so how should I know if I’m a bass or oktavist?

@reubenthomas7907 4 жыл бұрын

If you can sing a G1 loudly , you can consider yourself to have an oktavist voice . If you have a strong D2 , you are a true bass.

@_generation_youth_x28 4 жыл бұрын

Reuben Thomas thanks

@reubenthomas7907 4 жыл бұрын

@@_generation_youth_x28 You're welcome.

@FortexVize 3 жыл бұрын

1:33 demon lol

@user-ry7xy5zm7d 2 жыл бұрын

See how the baritone takes notes from the counter octave: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h8WEaqaltb6Ve2g.html

@recursive_eternity 7 ай бұрын

Who is it at 9:08?

@steve50505 Жыл бұрын

6:48 F#1

@BluevesPL 4 жыл бұрын

The list of the singers?

@matthewdockray9745 4 жыл бұрын

There’s many many in this video. Which clips do you want to know in particular

@BluevesPL 4 жыл бұрын

@@matthewdockray9745 every except Mikhail, Alatorre, Glenn, Pavel and Ort, because I know them :D

@matthewdockray9745 4 жыл бұрын

Nicolas Cage this might have to be a WIP comment as I don’t have a list saved of all the clips I’ve used... but I’ll write down what I can remember off by heart for now 0:50 Kurt Moll 1:35 Paul Myhalik 2:05 Glenn Miller, Vladimir Miller, Adrian Peacock 2:45 Wilhelm Schwinghammer (I think) 3:00 Stefan Voicu (I think) 3:50 Joel Frederickson 4:30 Tuukka Haapaniemi 4:40 A. Gdeshinsky (possibly Alexei) 5:20 Gdeshinsky again I believe 6:25 Glib Chandrowsky 8:25 possibly Oleg Bardinov but I can’t quite remember 10:25 a whole bunch of people, though I’ve read that only 2 people actually sung the D1... can’t remember who... I may come back to this thread when I have time and try to figure out who the others are Hope that helped

@reubenthomas7907 4 жыл бұрын

@@matthewdockray9745 Alexis Lukianov and Alex Dmitrieff were on the D1.

@ailtonsouzadearaujojunior2210 3 жыл бұрын

@@BluevesPL 1:52, 3:39 Dmitri Tihonov (aka. Alexander Liver). 5:44 Sergey Kochetov. 7:46 Vladimir Miller or other oktavist. 8:33 Aleksander Nazarov. 8:53 Leonid Streltsov. 8:47 Stefan Voicu + Dan Spatariu.

@Alexander_Zemsky 2 жыл бұрын

А кто это на 8.31 с короткой фразой - ,, нас во искушение"?

@user-qm8wr5ob2v 6 ай бұрын

Bb1- неточно интонируется, на четверть тона ниже ...или только мне так слышится?

@pierreyven973 2 жыл бұрын

Song at 9:40 please ?

@ailtonsouzadearaujojunior2210 Жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jrV6hdGZqLmRhnk.html

@eneabeghelli5108 3 жыл бұрын

04:00 Who is he?

@matthewdockray9745 3 жыл бұрын

Joel Frederiksen

@eneabeghelli5108 3 жыл бұрын

@@matthewdockray9745 Thank you! 😃👌

@jankoznar8591 4 жыл бұрын

Who is that? 3:25

@matthewdockray9745 4 жыл бұрын

it's Eric alatorre, the bass of chanticleer singing ring of fire kzfaq.info/get/bejne/as9iorZklZOsoKM.html If you meant the clip before with the snow, we don't know who's in the oktavist section, though Zlatopolsky has been confirmed to be present kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pcVzerih1N-0dWQ.html

@joseandrade-santos7521 Жыл бұрын

I am just a Dramatic Bass. Profondos are not able to sing a normal bass repertoire💖🎩

@spencerparris1727 3 жыл бұрын

Who is singer and what is song 3:30

@matthewdockray9745 3 жыл бұрын

Soloist is Eric Alatorre singing bass lead on ‘Ring of Fire’ cover by Chanticleer

@spencerparris1727 3 жыл бұрын

@brianweeks87 3 жыл бұрын

What and who is 8:32 - 8:37 ?

@ailtonsouzadearaujojunior2210 2 жыл бұрын

Alexander Nazarov.

@10THPROPHET 2 ай бұрын

I think the origin of Oktavists was due to the lack of organs in Russia so they often found oktavists to replicate organs

@lillegitimate 2 жыл бұрын

I am an octavist

@user-ry7xy5zm7d 2 жыл бұрын

See how the baritone takes notes from the counter octave: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h8WEaqaltb6Ve2g.html

@musikavatarethan 4 жыл бұрын

10:23 WHO IS THAT OMGGGGGG

@matthewdockray9745 4 жыл бұрын

“Going from closest to the camera: Alexey Dmitrieff, Alex Lukianov, Dusan Ljubinkovic, Vyacheslav Prutskik, Christopher Mallory, Alexey Kuznetsov, and Ivan Sidorov.”

@musikavatarethan 4 жыл бұрын

Matthew Dockray ALL OF THEM SUNG THOSE LOW NOTES?????? WOWWW...

@matthewdockray9745 4 жыл бұрын

Its Ethannn can’t say for sure, but because of the power of it, I’d say they all at least had a go at it. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bK1oZrp22tWRfnU.html at 1:15:04 they perform it live down half a step to a C#1 (I only found the video about half an hour ago, hence it’s not in this compilation), though I’m not sure if the full oktavist section is present from the original clip

@onecolossalrubikscube2554 3 жыл бұрын

@@matthewdockray9745 what drink does a bass voice need for more R E S O N A N C E

@matthewdockray9745 3 жыл бұрын

LegoBlox Railfan just water should suffice

@user-ry7xy5zm7d 2 жыл бұрын

See how the baritone takes notes from the counter octave: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h8WEaqaltb6Ve2g.html

@mihay8259 4 жыл бұрын

the guy from 1:27 actualy scared me a bit

@mihay8259 3 жыл бұрын

@ratdancer77 indeed

@napoleonbonaparte9227 3 жыл бұрын

Demon

@taviskaron 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, it's Paul Myhalik. You can see a better picture of him at 6:20

@freddiestudio7668 3 жыл бұрын

@@taviskaron thats glib

@graphics5000 6 ай бұрын

@@taviskaronThats glib not Paul

@joshuamccullough9455 3 жыл бұрын

Song at 3:58??

@matthewdockray9745 3 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f7p_l9eLs8m0eKs.html

@crunchycrackers7364 4 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t pavel Myakotin, use subs. If not wow:)

@matthewdockray9745 4 жыл бұрын

Bass Nerdd indeed. He’s actually a baritone. His full voice is roughly F2 - G4. E2 - Bb1 is strohbass, anything lower is subharmonics

@powerlifting1986 4 жыл бұрын

Who told you this?

@matthewdockray9745 4 жыл бұрын

powerlifting it was said by fellow oktavist Vladimir Kozelov. You can find the quote and more information in the replies in the top comment of this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z8Coi5dm27fZcqM.html

@powerlifting1986 4 жыл бұрын

@@matthewdockray9745 yeah i think there is a little lost in translation with the guy who is talking about what Kozelov said; I've chatted with Kozelov and others in the group it is chest down to C2 or so and then the subharmonics below that.