Old, Bland, and Undervalued Players + Hot Dog Decisions

Old, Bland, and Undervalued Players + Hot Dog Decisions | Fantasy Football 2024 - Ep. 1586

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Which older players are being undervalued in 2024? On today’s fantasy football podcast, Andy, Mike, and Jason discuss veteran wide receivers and their ADP in mock drafts. Can Mike Evans do it again? Will Cooper Kupp bounce back? Plus, NFL News and draft strategies for the onesie positions! Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast. -- Fantasy Football Podcast for June 13th, 2024.
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(00:00) - Intro
(06:50) - Onesie position strategy
(11:00) - NFL News
(22:45) - Old, Bland, and Undervalued
(24:50) - Cooper Kupp
(30:53) - Adam Theilen
(35:35) - Keenan Allen
(39:49) - Mike Evans
(48:10) - Brandin Cooks
(53:19) - Amari Cooper
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@TheFantasyFootballers 22 күн бұрын

Dive into the 2024 UDK at UltimateDraftKit.com BallersLive.com for MEGALASHOW tickets!

@ianhavener4230 22 күн бұрын

I think it's time to go to 3 episodes a week.. it's mid June! Give me more Ballers!

@Ryanh1010 22 күн бұрын

I thought june was 3 episodes ha i guess its 3 starting july then 5 starting august onward? I always thought it was 3 june, 4 july, 5 august to end of season lol

@angelherrera150 22 күн бұрын

More balls!!! LFG

@Ryanh1010 22 күн бұрын

Andy didnt want his voice to crack again during the intro like last year 😂 he has learned lol

@jackheintz9747 22 күн бұрын

Need Mike to do the "AHHHHHHHHHHH WELCOME IN" some time then have Andy do Mail Bag 😅

@snakenation7765 22 күн бұрын

Already listened on Spotify, but I came here to say Jason is the most frightening Grandpa EVER on this thumbnail

@darylsabourin6875 21 күн бұрын

The ending was chopped off on spotify, gentlemen. Cheers!

@here4thecookies676 22 күн бұрын

Mike Evans had over 1000 yards with Josh Freeman and Jameis Winston. Stop undervaluing my boy

@tonytime916 22 күн бұрын

Bruh I thought that was David Letterman in the thumbnail. 😝 💀 😂

@prod_stevie 22 күн бұрын

I have that weird feeling Cooper Kupp returns to form and lands top 10 and Puka will have a sophomore slump

@heyitsbranigan 22 күн бұрын

They coexisted just fine. Kupp returning to form ≠ Puka suffering Not to mention idk how many players have "returned to form" at age 31

@Silentmogar 22 күн бұрын

Saying Cooper Kupp didn’t do good last year … it’s almost like the coach said he was injured all year… sleeping on Kupp

@VinegarAndSaltedFries 21 күн бұрын

Or it’s almost like an often injured Aging WR has played his best football and now slowly declines until obsolescence.

@anthonybermingham7460 22 күн бұрын

It sounds like at any moment Andy is going to bang out a power ballad with a harsh voice. Golden.

@Gutz13 22 күн бұрын

I always appreciate the welcome in when hes sick. Never not worth it.

@jeffreyring1012 21 күн бұрын

That picture of Jason is what we can expect in 30 years 😂😂

@jhamandrogrisk7724 22 күн бұрын

They really talked about Theilen without once mentioning their mid season play calling change. Just hammered the "he's old" meme......

@jakeofstad32 22 күн бұрын

Does it really matter their points still apply to theilen this upcoming season? Weird flex

@grindernerd3579 22 күн бұрын

10/10 thumbnail

@zachrapp6935 20 күн бұрын

Jason and Andy = matching hat bros!

@tmartin8888 20 күн бұрын

Reports out of Giants camp indicate Tyrone Tracy has a good chance of securing the passing down back role, so if that’s the case I’ll pass on Singletary and take a late flyer on Tracy, because the Giants are going to be playing catch up a lot, and I expect Tracy to be a Darren Sproles/Michael Westbrook type talent in the NFL.

@adam7899 22 күн бұрын

I would take Evans ahead of N.Collins, because Collins numbers may drop with Dell back from injury & Diggs on the outside also this season

@jordana7145 22 күн бұрын

I don't think Jason saw Miles Sanders last year lol

@carlspackler1431 22 күн бұрын

Wow that intro was 🔥 You cool cats and hip jive turkeys are the bees knees!

@buddhadickson4309 22 күн бұрын

Good morning gang!

@douchsane 22 күн бұрын

Love the ILC homie the clown reference Jason

@jamescurtin5557 22 күн бұрын

Where does one acquire the Baller hat Andy and Jason are wearing?

@darronnelson9102 22 күн бұрын

LOVE the show!!! SO MANY ADS ON KZfaq!

@gilbertoverdugo9595 22 күн бұрын

I just traded for Evans in a dynasty. I believed in Baker last year and he helped me win the chip. I trade a late 2026 1st for Evans and if helps me win back to back with the stack... that's a steal every time.

@hooligan5162 22 күн бұрын

Good morning

@dankweiss7338 22 күн бұрын

In regards to Nico talk , we expecting a year 2 jump for stroud ? Could be massive if so

@charlenegehrig8284 22 күн бұрын

I mix old with new on my rosters!!

@23richrod 21 күн бұрын

Dude I miss Andy’s intro 😢

@CryptoSteve-O 20 күн бұрын

How ‘bout those Ducers!!! So undervalued!!🎉❤❤❤❤

@TheMaxRebo 22 күн бұрын

Andrew - what time is the wedding? Ballers Live seems like a great reception opportunity

@josheastwold5360 22 күн бұрын

Really hard to see Keenan returning value. The Chargers created the perfect situation with a stud QB, weak/injured WR group, terrible defense, hyper aggressive coach & fast pace of play. He's getting a downgrade in situation on pretty much all fronts it seems like. Keenan had a 24.4% share on the LAC offense that attempted the 3rd most passes in the NFL last year. The pie, and the slice% are both getting way smaller this year. It's pretty scary to me!!

@1bucciarelli 21 күн бұрын

How much is target share really gonna drop? He gonna be in the slot getting all the underneath and intermediate routes. Still has elite separation ability and great hands. I think he leads the team in targets and I think the bears are going to be throwing the football a lot. Wouldn’t be surprised if Caleb throws 550-570 attempts this year and Keenan ends up with 90-100 receptions again. I think he’s just fine in the fifth

@josheastwold5360 21 күн бұрын

@@1bucciarelli Keenan had more than double the targets of the 2nd guy on LAC last year (150 vs. 74), and he had developed chemistry with Herbert over 4 years that made that work. Keenan had one of his worst seasons in Herbert's rookie year, even tho Herbert was amazing, Keenan was 27, and the target competition was much weaker. Don't you think DJ and Rome will end up being much closer to Keenan in targets? Isn't Herbert a much more prolific passer than Caleb (at least for this year)? Are DJ and Rome going to be hitting so many homeruns that the volume isn't there for the dink and dunk style that LAC had to deploy last year? Everything is a downgrade in situation. Keenan looks like this year's Tyler Lockett: aging stud with 2 younger guys that are going to leech volume, and a system that won't hyper target him. Feels like 70-80 catches for 800 yards and 4 TDs to me. That would actually be like a top 20 seasons for a WR with a rookie QB too...

@1bucciarelli 21 күн бұрын

@@josheastwold5360 Keenan had a 14 finish Herbert rookie year with 14 games played. I think dj Moore gonna be close in targets, but not Rome. I I think Caleb gonna be passing about 35 a game, and Keenan will have a 20-25% target share. I think he’ll have 4-6 tds, 90 receptions, and 950-1050 yards. Not a great season, but definitely solid for a fifth round pick

@josheastwold5360 21 күн бұрын

@@1bucciarelli That's fair. We don't see it that differently, I'm just down on all the margins. I think you've laid out more the ceiling in his situation, but that's almost exactly what Old Man Thielen did last year for CAR with a 25% target share, a 1.01 rookie QB & a suspect org. I like Keenan's spot much more than I did for Thielen last year, I just think the ceiling is capped and there's almost no chance of hitting a home run in the 5th with him. Cheers.

@ZackSaucey386 22 күн бұрын

I need some Bestball content!!

@mpurusho 22 күн бұрын

The cover image for this episode is nightmare fuel.

@robertkruger5744 18 күн бұрын

I drafted Derrick Henry and Aaron Jones in my dynasty back in 2021 and they’re still here lol. Feel better going into this year than last.

@MiguelGatica 22 күн бұрын

I’m seriously considering flying from Costa Rica 🇨🇷 ✈️ to go watch you guys live 😮‍💨

@monkeyboy4311 22 күн бұрын

Bonjour!

@mosesl8848 21 күн бұрын

Andy, you’re letting me down with that intro 😂

@Caninepeaceofmind 22 күн бұрын

David Letterman ! The show is legit big time 👊❤️ Thanks boys

@ryanburton6734 22 күн бұрын

I have pick 1.01 in my 2QB league, do I take Mahomes, Allen or CMC ??

@nathanchiudioni4918 22 күн бұрын

I will never not love the Adam Thielen voice. It might be one of my favorite bits of all time.

@qazzaqstan 21 күн бұрын

Unlike Thielen the voice never gets old

@RecklessIsSick 22 күн бұрын

Andy post a pic of your dynasty roster. I gotta see this proclaimed retirement home of a team.

@chuckchuckerson5364 18 күн бұрын

Since the whole Jason's hairdo at a haircut episode, I have asked every stylist I've had what they preferred; all of them laughed and said that it doesn't matter.

@SirDennisReynolds 21 күн бұрын

Please do an auction draft just for fun…we need the results at the very least

@shakyabodhi 21 күн бұрын

"ive eaten some dogs" is a good clip

@nicholasgallick4954 22 күн бұрын

Didn’t Jason say his fave stack Kelce mahomes in the 3 4, next episode he say don’t take onesies with premium pics. Get this man a hot dog and give me a new stack lol

@jonandra678 22 күн бұрын

If you listen to the episode, he said the 3/4 combo of Mahomes and Kelce(instead of the 1/2 combo) is too good to pass up on because at that value you could hit a home run. But with your first pick, you wouldn’t want to take a quarterback and your second pick take a tight end and then round three through five you have to sift through garbage to fill all your other positions.

@nicholasgallick4954 22 күн бұрын

@@jonandra678 would u rather have mahomes kelce at 3/4…or Lamar/Andrews at 4/5 ?

@jonandra678 22 күн бұрын

@@nicholasgallick4954 with Henry potentially vulturing all his goal line carries, I’d pick the ceiling of Mahomes even though Lamar has a very safe floor. But it’s just personal preference. I don’t think there’s a ton of variance between a 3/4 turn and a 4/5 turn for this type of scenario.

@flames6002 22 күн бұрын

Ain’t no way Alvin Kamara just fired his agent blame Andy !

@CaliBorn73 22 күн бұрын

Kupp is going to go off this year. It's the first year he's coming in healthy since the triple crown season. Don't get caught sleeping on him.

@LumpsIsHigh 22 күн бұрын

Did Judge say "head laser?" 3:44

@user-zj3xd6bu9p 22 күн бұрын

Based on your opinion of coach leaving, you should be more in on Adam Theiland Mike

@user-zj3xd6bu9p 22 күн бұрын

What no "WELLLLLLCOME IN"

@KyleMorrison-te8ov 21 күн бұрын

I looked at it ten times before I realized Jason was the old man 😂

@thefncow 21 күн бұрын

Should we not get our proper intro a 3rd time could the Ducers drop Andy's voice crack clip for our pleasure?

@CryptoGrady 22 күн бұрын

🔥🔥🔥

@Wonderwall627 22 күн бұрын

Andy should have been put on the hotseat for DeAndre Hopkins on this episode with his high hopes for Calvin Ridley.

@shagy2dope55 22 күн бұрын

Goood morning Ballers

@oPAYTONo 22 күн бұрын

Best fantasy show out there, Thanks for all the entertainment on drives to the office! But you have to get Andy to stop interrupting Jason. We never hear the end of his thoughts. Still love the show❤

@CPAstacks 21 күн бұрын

Jason is too funny 🤣🤣🤣

@allegedlydre 22 күн бұрын

Dont sleep on Jordan Travis! No sir. Watch the tape

@user-vb9wf9dk3v 22 күн бұрын

Best ball, best ball, best ball, best ball, BEST BAAAAAAALL

@tattlover11 22 күн бұрын

I just delivered food to you guys ❤️❤️❤️

@codyjames2237 22 күн бұрын

SICKNESS BE DAMNED WE NEED THE AHHHHHHHHWELCOME INNNN

@teecee4459 19 күн бұрын

Won an Underdog $100 bb 12 team sit n go last season with these 4 RBs: najee harris, Zeke, AJ Dillion and dalvin cook 🤣🤣🤣 can't get more bland than that!

@TFFForecast 22 күн бұрын

Please don't draft Adam Theilen. Diontae Johnson is being undervalued and can actually get open for Bryce. If you play in a 3WR format and want someone with a decent floor as your 3, take him

@governmentdivides7063 22 күн бұрын

Why is David Letterman on your thumbnail?

@willemilysimmons7711 22 күн бұрын

Jefferson 18, is all you need.

@a_wretch_like_me9665 22 күн бұрын

I've been shaving my head bald since 2020... and just learned there are head razors

@forestjordan8675 22 күн бұрын

The delayed into is giving Mike’s intro when Andy is out…..jus sayin.

@Davidscou 22 күн бұрын

As someone who loved Kendre Miller I am shocked how in everyone is for Brooks this year

@fwant2729 18 күн бұрын

How are those 2 players related at all lmfao. 1 was a 3rd round pick coming onto a team with a clear lead back. The other is a 2nd round pick who is likely to take over a 3 down role when fully healthy. they aren't even comparable.

@Davidscou 18 күн бұрын

@@fwant2729 coming into their rookie season coming off injured ACLs expected to slowly ramp up into the season. Kendra was a reminder that such an injury ramp up can explode into more injuries

@YimmyYames513 22 күн бұрын

As a hornswoggler I resent that intro 😂

@jameslee3764 21 күн бұрын

Mikes anti- Mike Evans argument really has no factual basis. I am with Andy and it was kinda frustrating hearing Mike try to justify it lol

@venod3134 22 күн бұрын

As a bald brotha. Jason is right, every head shape is not conducive to a baldy.

@hiramabiff2790 22 күн бұрын

🏈🏈🏈🏈……UDK…….BIG SHIMMY……..🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉…………UDK………..UDK……….UDK……….UDK……….

@maal75749 22 күн бұрын

@StrongStyleNinja 21 күн бұрын

Can we get an episode where the guys dress as and act as themselves 50 years later?! Lol

@chrisavelino2201 22 күн бұрын

"Homey don't play that"

@thatguy66199 22 күн бұрын

Mike wears 2 watches. One for the time and one for football time

@robstaaass 22 күн бұрын

If you had Kupp last year, you know damn well you're not taking him over Smith and Metcalf. I'm sure not. Call me stupid but I'm not fucking doing that again. That was the biggest disappointment ever.

@arnejohnson7542 22 күн бұрын

I agree for the most part but im afraid he's back to form and he's just goes OFF, and I miss out on a stellar season

@craigfisher9512 22 күн бұрын

Homie don’t play that

@Das_Boot.1 22 күн бұрын

Homie dont play that.....swish!

@YaBoyYuno 22 күн бұрын

The Rodgers story is literally a nothing burger anyone making it more is way too invested into tweets

@HeliosWrath 18 күн бұрын

Kupp will outperform Puka.

@JA_110 22 күн бұрын

Taking a onsie back to back won me a ship last year (3/4 turn)

@scottdickson9224 22 күн бұрын

CAN it? Sure, there are always exceptions. They are outlining how it's a smarter play to avoid it, since the draft is essentially a value maximization game.

@JA_110 22 күн бұрын

@@scottdickson9224 i understand what they are doing. But you have to look at who is on the board, the better upside, better offense, and if you can get the qb for that player with your next pick. Lot of factors go into making the pick

@namesandmanes 22 күн бұрын

Good for you, Jay. Get back on that healthy eating wagon. Good food can change your life.

@CraigGarrison 21 күн бұрын

Bald men unite! The follicly blessed need to stop bullying

@SandstormGT 22 күн бұрын

WTF Andy....

@brianford78 22 күн бұрын

@oatsandtoats2009 22 күн бұрын

Can we get a best ball episode its best ball season and y'all haven't done a best ball mock draft or anything

@atticustibbs2415 22 күн бұрын

This please

@DP-gb8qu 22 күн бұрын

Can’t stand best ball part of what makes me good is the long grind of the season. Best ball feels like a lotto ticket and when I did two 25 dollar ones last year on underdog. Spent the rest of the season trying to find those entries and never did

@Ryanh1010 22 күн бұрын

I think Jason is the only one who does bestball so maybe thats why? Idk if you listen to ray garvin (destination devy) but that channel does bb drafts like every wed and friday

@Fruitpunch64 22 күн бұрын

Garbage

@russellwilliamson551 22 күн бұрын

@@DP-gb8quuser error brotha