The 25 changes in DayZ 1.20: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r9CUhsmSlauyd2g.html

It would be great to see birds sometimes fly away from players if startled.

Bird sounds should be audible to other players within a certain radius, this would make tracking players within forests a thing. A player couldn't just run off into a Livonia forest and be gone, they could be hunted. Animals should also trigger bird sounds so they can be tracked and hunted.

I actually noticed the silence of the birds a long time ago. Sometimes you would notice it immediately before you, or somebody in your squad would get hit. You would notice just a really sudden cut out to the bird sounds and then you think "oh shit" just to be smacked by a .308 a fraction of a second later. lol

Crow or buzzard sounds near dead bodies would be a pretty cool addition . increasing in volume as you get closer

I've said it before... It's a good idea to add real birds. Ducks and geese swimming in ponds that get spooked and fly away if someone gets near. Beavers that knock down trees. Woodpeckers. Birds in trees that fly away when spooked. Rats, raccoons, skunks, and crows in larger towns and cities. Mice inside houses. Crows near dead bodies that caw when a living player gets close. And have the crow sound travel farther than a rooster to in turn alert other players of your presence. Pigeons on roofs of highrise apartments and industrial buildings that get spooked when a player reaches that roof. Seagulls on the coast. Maybe an occasional dead fish on the beach. Dig for oysters on beach. Squirrels that can climb any surface and ground hogs in fields and in the woods. I want more hunting opportunities. Grouse, pheasant, turkey. Plus hunting different types of animals should open new crafting recipes. Not just for food. I want to put a feather in my cowboy hat. Or to make arrows for the bow they will never add. I want to craft a hat from a fox or a raccoon. Make new clothing items or to decorate existing clothes. DayZ has heroes and bandits. This would create a new type of player. The primitive survivalist. Lives off the land. Fully geared from what nature gives him. Or her. Like Rambo first blood

New dayz voiceline unlocked: 'It's quiet... too quiet.'

Finally, bird noises, the feature we've all been asking for. I'm so glad this recieved priority over desync and render issues (which have been reintroduced with this update).

They should change the silencing system so birds go silent when the sound wave hits not as the weapon fires. Maybe they should also change the birds from being silent to suddenly flapping away as if scared by the bullet.

This has nothing to do with ambient sounds but i think its a cool idea that will add a lot to dayz and want to post it somewhere: The idea is to be able to make you own sewing kit, potentially using rope and a fishing hook or something along those lines. I think that this might make the game easier in terms of maintaining gear. This is a bit of a downside to this idea but I think the upsides outweigh that. Upsides (My opinion) : - Increases the variety of things that you can do out in the forests without going into towns. As both rope and hooks can be acquired from animals. - Allow you to repair clothing while on the move or in the middle of nowhere. Downsides (My opinion) : - Makes maintaining gear a bit easier (But I do think that rope and hooks aren't common to carry, at least in my experience, so it sort of counters this point) Overall I think this would be really cool and support players who have a more secluded hunter playstyle (Like myself), and I think it would benefit everyone, at the cost of a small amount of game difficulty, but it could be balanced (e.g. it only has one or two uses, it can't be used on wounds, or something along these lines, or in other ways)

Thanks for the mention in the video :) Your investigation went waaaaay further than I could have dreamt! Thanks for your hard work!

Like some others have already said it would be better if there were noises for birds flying away like they've been startled out of the tops of trees if a player runs under certain trees but wouldn't happen if you were crouch walking. A bit off topic but I still think it would be great for tracking if bleeding players left a blood trail, it would bring a new dynamic to the play style 👍🏼

one thing I'd love to see is a random chance to 'scare the birds' if you're moving around the forest, and almost certain if you shoot or start a car etc. Like not only a sound but real particles flying away from the trees. Imagine you're walking on the field and there is a patch of forest and all of the sudden you hear like birds taking off and see them flying away, you're almost certain that there is someone or something in that forest, what do you do?

I always thought about this in my head when playing. Also those random lag spikes when wandering, I think about another player rendering near me.

PUBG had a mechanic where birds would fly into the air as a flock when you startle them, essentially letting you track players by looking above fields for where the birds were flying away from. That would be cool in DaYz

Awh, I was noticing that the bird audio would randomly stop from time to time but I thought it must be an audio bug. Helpful video!

I like the general idea of this mechanic, but agree it needs some tweaks. Knowing someone fired a shot 500m away 2 seconds before the bullet would even hit you is pretty broken. I like the idea of the "bird bubbles" becoming quiet at the speed of sound as well, that way if someone is shooting at YOU, you get no warning, but if someone is shooting elsewhere, you can get a leg up on them.

I watched you for so many years and never realized you also had RE music in the background, awesome :D

The frequency of the bird sounds at night are ridiculously high when you're sneaking through the woods. I first heard birds reacting to zombies walking in the tree-lines and thought "shit" anytime I'm in the woods at night people are going to be able to kinda zero in on my position. I could see if it were once in a while but its almost constant.

Since 1.20 buildings/walls take forever to load in. I play on ps4 unfortunately but instead of corner peeking I can just see other players through walls before they load.

The birds and crickets reacting to gunshots is a nice start, though other expansions could be made. I'd like to hear specific distress calls and fly-away sounds (think like the tree across the bridge from Riverwood in Skyrim) that you could hear if other players disturb a bird bubble too much. If they shoot within X meters of the source, other players should hear the bird distress calls from the source much farther away before they go silent. Maybe go even further and add trap bushes or trees, full of distinct chirping birds that flee if a player walks too close, alerting other players to their general position. Would make forest chases much more intense.

Having grown up in the swamp for a good part of my life, I've always considered crickets, cicadas, birds, and other wildlife sounds as a warning system of predators, including humans. I would love to see DayZ include this in the game. When the crickets stop, be alert.

Honestly the bird sounds suddenly stopping when gunfire happens has been around for a while. You can hear everything go silent, birds, crickets, everything, right before a gun fire goes off.

I would love more variety of different ambient sounds 🔥❤️

I reckon the birds should go quiet for a solid minute or two, and when they are startled it plays a sound of them hastily flying off

That 2 second delay shot was insane! You guys truly go the DayZ Godz work! Thanks again for the great video!

Having WOBO in your community must be both a blessing and a curse as a video game dev. Great community sourced patch testing while also finding the exploits as soon as they come out hahaha

I noticed the trees creaking way louder after the 1.20 update. They kept startling me when I was hiking through the woods in the dark, lol.

The mass effect and classic resident evil music is giving me life. Brilliant video

Yeah, I've been in a forest, and sometimes it was windy. There certainly wasn't the degree of noise from animals nearby, or trees creaking. Any birds would fly a distance away and be silent, unless of course you were near their nest, when they would make a noise to attract you away from their nest. I find the sheer level of noise to be distracting, unrealistic, and it destroys immersion for me. Something that could be added which would be realistic and enhance gameplay would be a crack noise from stepping on a branch (you could avoid this by slow walking) audible up to 100m away.

I liked the crow sounds for camping persons in Vigor. I hated that there is no 1pp for that game. I forsee myself playing Dayz for probably 10 more years, unless Dayz2 drops before. Thank you for the content.

This is crazy. Thank you for finding out WOBO!

You know what's better than bird sounds? Mass effect music. Nice vid.

Super interesting ! I knew we could still get useful information from the bird sounds, even if they are player side only :) Thanks !

Always knew there was something with this just couldn't put my ear on it. thanks for your work WOBO!

The freaking owls man, they're everywhere. It's as if every tree is inhabited by an owl. Hoo hoo all night long baby.

The last time I played dayz, it was right before the bunkers were released. But I still love watching your videos and keeping up with it cause I will go back, someday. Keep up the great work homie. ✌🏻

We need birds that get spooked and fly away, like in hunt showdown.

That is seriously remarkable, that you pinpointed that birds go quiet before a bullet making sound reaches their location since it's based on the prerequisite of a gun being fired within a certain range rather than adhering to the laws of logic. When they fix this, it will be that much closer to simulating reality, that's just mind boggling!

It would be great : - First to add more sound variety (more diverse sounds and longer loops) as some ambient sounds tend to be a bit repetitive. More bird species also. There are plenty in Europe. - Too add some distinct alert advertising call from birds when there's something approaching. Eurasian Jays and European green woodpecker make very characteristic sounds when they see danger. Ther'es plenty of copyright free birds sounds online. - Without even considering animated bird models right now, you can still add the sound of a flock taking flight in the opposite direction of the danger. I believe this type of changes wouldn't be that hard to implement. And be worth it considering the time spent roaming in forests in this game.

I hope footwear gets another rework, travelling with regular shoes in the woods should either slow you down or wear them down quicker.

I always thumbs up before even watching your videos... Never fail, always worth it!

I really hate the new tree creaking - it's also kind of broken. In a group of trees there will be one tree that the sound is coming from and if you are right under that tree, the sound will become VERY loud and the spatial mastering will be removed so it'll sound just like something coming through the mic system in game. It always freaks me out and makes me think there's a player who went live on mic until I remember it's the changes to the ambient sounds. I hope they tweak this in the next update. I also really hate that they added a three step shuffle into the beginning of the tree top wind noise - so every time the breeze starts I think someone is running up.

I suppose making it fully client side would somewhat solve the issue. like the ambient going quiet/quieter only if your clients shoots in the vicinity.

Would be cool if they come up with a mocking bird system where you can make a bird call with your mic, and the birds will mimic it and transmit the mimic across other bird sources up to 500m. Would be a cool way to find your buddies without a radio, especially if they need to reply with a different call you agreed on earlier.

Honestly im surprised people dont know that when you hear the mosquitoes means that there is nearby players ive tried it and tested it and it works

I noticed immediately when I started playing 1.20 since I have a base in the sticks birds sounds are a bit less repetitive and noticed more variety of sounds.

Sounds one player makes should be heard by others. Sounds should be in groups: like near ambient when player walks , louder when player jogs and loud and disturbed when player runs

This isnt even unrealistic, birdlanguage irl is super complex, birds can have unqique sounds for where you are in their territory irl

Ambient music are coming back😇

i left this suggestion a number of months ago in sumraks namalsk discord. I wonder if my suggestion influenced this or maybe they were already working on it : - 23/11/2022 Maybe not a namalsk exclusive suggestion but a general one. Personally I think it’d be great if birds had a chance to randomly spawn in trees and could be used to track players. Running past a tree would send the birds up and be a visual indicator for people near or far that someone just ran through that part of the woods or even an animal (counter could be to walk or crouch to avoid this). Also blood trails could be really cool. Basically more tracking techniques would be awesome, especially on bigger maps.

I want those old birds back..

Would love to be able to hunt with ambient sounds and track through the forest

Cooking on a stove now sounds like stir frying in a wok.

Correct me if I'm still but .. this is super old. Been happening for at least a year now. The sounds stop when someone shoots, and you hear the bang after depending how far they were.

500 meter radius is still tough to find a player. Especially not knowing which direction it came from.

personally, I like this 'bug.' Like, imagine you're just talking to your friend in the forest. You both go quiet as you notice the silence. Suddenly, a rifle shot cracks through the air and all hell breaks loose.

I'd love to see ambience react to players in a more intelligent way. Like, birds can be startled by a gun shot, and scramble playing a unique sound that can be heard further than the current "bird bubble". Also, I'd ditch the bubbles and cover areas with a large hitbox that pseudo randomly assigns points where sounds can play using something like gaussian blur (I believe it's called) or similar method. That might allow for a simple implementation of what I mentioned before. Crickets are fine for sure, but obviously the gunshot thing don't make sense. We currently have wildlife that is synced between players (but I believe sounds are not, except maybe death sounds of them), why couldn't we have the same for thunder, and bird sounds?

It's difficult to track players across large maps like Chernarus. I'd like to see more sounds traps added without being as extreme as Hunt: Showdown. That being said, crows in trees would be a fantastic addition.

If their gonna devote resources to give the ambient sounds logic, they should add in sprites that players can scare off. Players have been wanting better ways to track player movements.

What’s crazy is I noticed that before unsuppressed sniper shots it would go quite for a moment I’d be holding an angle at like nwaf for example and it goes quite I just move instantly and the shot would always come right after I never knew why I just know it works 😂 never noticed for suppressed shots though I probably didn’t notice the game going quite without hearing the shot right after. Interesting stuff

I think bird noises such as fluttering of birds if someone is close by. Alerting players someone is close.

Just an idea… I know it would require some extra coding and I’m not a dev so idk. Maybe birds and crickets could hear gunshots from, oh I don’t know… 25%-50% farther away than you? So if someone fires a weapon, then the birds go silent. It would be a disadvantage to using unsuppressed weapons, but also a player with a suppressed weapon could get a lot closer without being detected.

if the devs could reduce the noise of the wind that would be awesome, i just be playin and be hearing that loud mf wind in my ear for like hours lmao very annoying that it is super loud

Ive been asking for sound traps like hunt showdown for the longest and this is def a step in the right direction. Just waiting for a few more changes and im back in😊

I suspect this "birds go silent" thing has been there for some time. Maybe to a different extent, but I'm certain it's not a new thing. And quite frankly, it's very hard to use it as you typically need your senses to more important things than to listen to random ambient noises.

great use of the resident evil music

Great vid as ever - thanks dude

Mass effect soundtrack in the back! Nice

Cool. I asked about this a while ago as I figured the birds were important for tracking!

For one thing, I'm sick of the wind being louder than thors shits. They need a true weather system that isn't so overly exaggerated.

The only suggestion I have for the devs is to test these changes more thoroughly before implementing them, many of these recent issues seem as though they would have been caught and corrected in advance fairly easily

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The birds should sound like they are freaking out especially if they are close to the gunshot. Freaking out and flying away not go completely silent like they are having a moment of silence for the dead

Actual birds or stuff would be way better than unlimited bird noices.. especially not being able to shoot them and silence them up there. So yeah, Hunt: Showdown like, make them fly away if you're real close to their tree they're on.. normal ambience sounds to make players aware, that there are birds near you and you might trigger them flying away..

Hey I may have an idea: multiple stages of kuru building up 1 layer per piece of human flesh consumed, eventually leading to you becoming a wendigo of some form (this is how it happened according to folklaw at the time) essentially you will die but a version of you that will actively hunt down players for food, again just a fun Easter egg, adding nothing of importance to the game though as most of us just blow are brains out after eating one piece of human meat.

If you punch the ground or hop, the crickets should go quiet, because that's how they react IRL

a lot of really good suggestions in the comments. I would love to be able to track and hunt players using wildlife sounds, but maybe it's hard to implement properly

Probably need to reduce the “silent” radius down to the same as players hear them. Make ambience go quiet depending on sound and movement from all sources (players, vehicles, large animals)

the thumbnail with the angry bird is too funny

I swear a Owl scared the crap outta me when I was repairing my clothes ( wolves).

Interestingly I had birds eye advert before watching 👀

I don’t how or what I’d change, but the way it is currently just seems overly complicated / too much. Just go back to the old ambient sound noises, wasn’t anything particularly wrong with the old way

Arm wrestling in dayz It would be an interesting way to resolve issues without death and also should have the ability to fight with skills to be practiced with different combinations like a fighting game

ahhh the "unnerving silence " moments coming in 😁

weird how this works, but very good research into a topic that has more importance than one might expect. Thanks for another nifty vid

If the animals were more flushed out like red dead it would add to the game a lot! Hopefully one day 🤞🏻

5k + hours in the game, but when Wobo releases video i feel like a total noob :D

Randomise the bubble sizes, and the bird gunshot reaction radius

After this patch, I couldn't help noticing that birds sound startled a lot more often.

Ive always wondered if ambient sound is triggered by other players and if it would warn you about their presence. Thanks for answering that question. 😊

Top man, good insight into the mechanics 👍

I think this was misleading (title). Although you did address it about the 3:30 mark, the bird sounds don't appear to give away your position (or help you track a player). I think it would be nice if you could hear birds in the distance, triggered by another player. At least within the yelling voice travel distance away from you.

Would love it if birds flew away after gunshots or other loud noises, getting too close, etc. Just something visual would be cool

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I swear to God I made a test back in 0.60 and the birds showed a players position but I thought it's of no importance.

Would be nice if the birds flew away or something instead of arbitrarily chirping.

the birds being shush when someone shoot next to you is an old trick, i've been using this since idk... 1.10 lol

I don’t mind the birds giving away if I’m in a area where people are shooting it actually realistic birds have some of the best hearing

It should be easy enough for them to make the birds and crickets go silent when the soundwave hits rather than the when the gun is fired given that is something they already have modeled. As for other changes, I agree with those who say we need more actual animals. Real birds and other small critters. Rats, pigeons, crows, etc... in cities. Racoons and skunks don't exist in Europe, but maybe if they ever have a map in the USA... Badgers, weasels, pheasant, grouse, etc... in the forests would work. You could have vultures that fly around, but congregate around corpses. Maybe even we could have rare zombie versions of some animals? As for how birds react to players and predators. Birds should go quiet if there are wolves or other hostiles in the area. Perhaps if a player takes a hostile action like shooting, killing an animal/zombie, or even just running really fast and loud the birds will go quiet for some time because they are scared, and if you get too close they flee and make lots of noise. But if a player moves slowly or quietly or just stays still they eventually begin playing ambient noises again. This way a player running fast through a forest could be tracked by the bird sounds. A player waiting in ambush could be given away by the lack of bird sounds, but waiting longer would give them the opposite as the birds begin singing again.