Thank you again for the excellent comparison. Soon after watching this I ended up going with the Native slayer max 10. My biggest worry was sitting water coming in especially up in the northeast, but luckily solved my issue. If you push them in from the middle after they are in you can feel it sealing up and I haven't had issues with water since. I also got one with the older rudder but worked a deal for the new drop rudder and it make a huge difference (along with a Berley Pro handle).
@TheKayakWarrior11 ай бұрын
Very nice to hear! I’m glad the video helped!
@davidpickens60639 ай бұрын
Been looking at Kayaks for a while now . The way you describe each is great . Been sold on Old town pdl 120 for a while . After listening to you explain the 120 I believe I am going to get one . Thanks buddy .
@TheKayakWarrior9 ай бұрын
You’re welcome, I’m glad it helped! Thanks for watching!
@citonelson Жыл бұрын
I’ve been researching fishing kayak’s for a couple weeks and this is one of the best unbiased videos. I was leaning towards Native but have me thinking about Old town some. One thing I’m not sure about Old town is if I get a trolling motor getting splashed with the pedal drive up. Native has a foam insert you can put in. Thank you!
@TheKayakWarrior Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! Check out Navarre Kayak Fishing, they have an insert for the Old Town as well navarrekayakfishing.com/shop/old-town-drive-inserts/
@citonelson10 ай бұрын
@@TheKayakWarrior I have been keeping you and this insert in mind. 1) I ended up getting the Native Slayer Max 10 because I'm primarily onshore and gives the most accessories with all the tracks. Plus it fits nicely in my minivan with the ability to view out the side nicely. I think I shared already, but I can attest from my 6 hour day yesterday that once you push the scupper plugs in further they seal up nicely with no water . I'm thankful because it was sub 50 in the early morning. 2) I just got the Newport NK180 on Amazon for Prime day ($799) and noticed in their install video water coming through the drive box on the demo at the end of their video. So having me look into this from this video really saved me figuring it out my maiden voyage during colder weather.
@TheKayakWarrior10 ай бұрын
@@citonelson that is awesome and congratulations!
@ASDFCH8 ай бұрын
Great comparison. I appreciate you taking the time to put this together. Helps me out a lot with my shopping decision.
@TheKayakWarrior8 ай бұрын
I’m glad it helped and thanks for watching!
@bigfootingАй бұрын
Great video. I've been shopping and your video has helped me decide.
@TheKayakWarriorАй бұрын
@@bigfooting that is good news! I’m glad I could help and thank for watching!
@user-il7rp7qe3n10 ай бұрын
Thank you Warrior. I'm getting closer to deciding what direction to go. Would love to see someone talk about the kind of options available for each and how durable and reliable they are. May He keep you as well.
@TheKayakWarrior10 ай бұрын
They thing is they are both reliable and durable, I would say go some place where you can test them both in the water. If you live close to St. Petersburg, FL there is a store called Bill Jackson's and they have a pond out back just for that purpose.
@user-il7rp7qe3n10 ай бұрын
Apologies, I didn't state my query well. I was wondering about evaluating the add on stuff. For example, the power anchor; always work as it should? On the longer camera poles, do they bend the tracks, or do they wobble in a way that impacts your images? Things like that. Your response was so quick, thank you.@@TheKayakWarrior
@TheKayakWarrior10 ай бұрын
@@user-il7rp7qe3n not sure about the power anchor pole, but I have friends that have them on both models and no complaints. I’ll says the track mount on the Native is sturdier because of the design and the fact it uses think aluminum. The tracks on the Old Town are plastic, which means they may flex a little more. I haven’t had an issues, but I don’t use a tall pole so not 100% sure.
@kenappleby84815 ай бұрын
Great comparison video! I've had the 120 PDL for about 4 years now and will pick up with Slayer 12.5 tomorrow. I agree with every point you made. Biggest thing that is going to bug me on the Slayer is pulling that drive up...
@TheKayakWarrior5 ай бұрын
Yes, pulling the drive has definitely made a difference, especially when I go over an unexpected oyster bed.
@FishYourHeartOut Жыл бұрын
I'll keep my sportsmen 120 PDL!!
@larrycoyle3536 Жыл бұрын
very informative. I have a slayer propel 14. Basic hull characteristics have not changed much accept for a sharper bow on the max series.Still love it. Front storage large and very assessable. Upgrades bring it on par with the Max except the bow but better storage. thanks for the comparison video.
@erikjensen65034 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I just picked up two 12' paddle boats but i definitely see pedal drive in the near future and the old town is budget friendly in my area
@TheKayakWarrior4 ай бұрын
You can find good ones on Facebook marketplace or OfferUp at a good price, hope you find one.
@Peter-zg3em5 ай бұрын
loving the feedback. honest and relevant.
@jsib84 Жыл бұрын
Spot on man. I have the slayer max 12.5 and my wife has the old town 106 pdl. I like the old town pdl drive better better as far as deployment into the water and pulling it up once you hit shallow water. The rudder of the old town is also better in my opinion than the slayer max. Tracking on the water is more work on the slayer. With all those said though, i rig out my slayer with much more than my wife does on her old town and i have the rails and space to do so, old town is very limited (stock) on where and how much you can rig on the boat. I also feel the native has a more convenient layout for storage, and a dedicated battery box for fish finder or trolling motor give native the edge. Tossing gear inside the oldtown hull storage and theb trying to retreive it while on the water can sometimes be impossible. Both are great boats though and very fishable, stable and enjoyable. Both have places where the design or functionality could be improved but dont make them a horrible boat. Great video! Thanks
@TheKayakWarrior Жыл бұрын
Well said! What part of the country are you in?
@OutdoorMishaps Жыл бұрын
Good video bud. Sitting at home with COVID and watching your videos is a real blessing. I have a 120pdl like you and completely agree about the tracs... For the price it should have QUALITY tracs all over it.
@TheKayakWarrior Жыл бұрын
Praying for a speedy recovery!
@OutdoorMishaps Жыл бұрын
@@TheKayakWarrior thank you! Prayers are needed, and appreciated!
@nofx210817 ай бұрын
The newest slayer max 12.5 model as the spring blade rudder. I also believe the seat is on tracks and I believe there are also some more upgrades made to the newer version that make it a much better vessel if you ask me. I’m just a biased native owner.
@TheKayakWarrior7 ай бұрын
I was too, until I got the Old Town
@Bummer450 Жыл бұрын
Very good comparison video from an owner's perspective kudos to you well done sir 👏 btw you forgot to mention another mayor selling point to go for the Old Town their pedal drive Floats!! if accidentally falls in the water gives you enough time to recover it instead of sinking to the bottom 👍
@TheKayakWarrior Жыл бұрын
The Native Slayer Max is the same, my wife flipped hers and it stayed high in the water.
@krsone15856 күн бұрын
Good vid man.
@TheKayakWarrior6 күн бұрын
@@krsone1585 thank you sir
@Letizia4813 Жыл бұрын
Looking for my first pedal drive kayak, very informative and thorough video, thanks!
@chunlimon786215 күн бұрын
Love this video so much❤
@EMS-do5bb Жыл бұрын
Great video. Love your honest comparison, and very informative.
@TheKayakWarrior Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@krb04616 ай бұрын
Great comparison video and I'm still torn. I would love a super smooth drive but the Old Town has so many upsides, too.
@TheKayakWarrior6 ай бұрын
The Old Town is smooth and I’m really loving it
@txmexnittro2 ай бұрын
Awesome comparison on 2 kayaks I've been looking at! I'm new and have never own a kayak, so I'm looking and doing research!! I also love all the awesome rails Native has to offer, but don't mind adding to the OT PDL!!! The OT PDL looks BIGGER & THICKER, but which one performs better in the water??
@TheKayakWarrior2 ай бұрын
I’m definitely happier with the OT, dryer and more stable ride, especially in rougher water.
@d-money5976 Жыл бұрын
Thanks.....think the Slayer is the way to go..... Now just need to figure color
@jessehoward52085 ай бұрын
Great comparison video!
@TheKayakWarrior5 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@MISANTHROPE19642 ай бұрын
Thanks, great review.
@TheKayakWarrior2 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@Steady_Stick Жыл бұрын
Nice job on the comparison video!
@TheKayakWarrior Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@RadReelingFishing Жыл бұрын
I like this type of comparison video. It's good to see the small differences that might make a difference to the angler choosing their kayak. I think you said your wife flipped the Old Town Sportsman, but your hand is on the Native Slayer. Wasn't it the slayer she flipped?
@TheKayakWarrior Жыл бұрын
You are correct JC! Thanks for catching that!
@seanthompson75924 ай бұрын
Great review!!!!
@TheKayakWarrior4 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@AlfredMorganOutdoors Жыл бұрын
CNY people selling old towns for like 1500 with pdl its kinda nice.
@albertharden16284 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comparison video I’m researching to find a stable kayak have a injured knee and foot
@TheKayakWarrior4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Either one are great kayaks, I am loving my Old Town a little better though.
@jonathonloehr8575 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@TheKayakWarrior Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@medeiros36103 ай бұрын
Great video. Thank you 👍
@TheKayakWarrior3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@thehonfleur3 ай бұрын
Great review
@TheKayakWarrior3 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@toolsnthings5539 Жыл бұрын
good review next time show some on the water footage of each
@moreesetaylor8722 ай бұрын
"Believe it or not that 2 inches makes a difference!!!"...Too easy!!....Giggity!!
@jerryfaircloth6 ай бұрын
Does the slayer pedal drive float like the old town ones in case you drop it in or it disconnects during a capsizing event? I've only capsized once, and that was my dogs fault, in my sportsman and it did not disconnect but its reassuring to know it would float just in case. Nice review you did, hopefully it helps a lot of folks decide.
@TheKayakWarrior6 ай бұрын
It floats the same as the Old Town. My wife tipped hers over, but was able to continue fishing the rest of the day
@luisspearhead6 ай бұрын
great video comparison.... How about the Speed ...on choppy waters ....is there one faster than the other....????
@TheKayakWarrior6 ай бұрын
I think the Native Slayer cuts through the waves faster, but the Old Town is slightly better in rough waves when not moving.
@dwag30310 ай бұрын
Hey great video sir! Do either of the pedal drives offer a slot to hook your net into , for easy access ??
@TheKayakWarrior10 ай бұрын
Not natively, but I added a YakAttack RotoGrip Paddle Holder (amzn.to/3ME1r5B) to my Native drive. Thank you for watching!
@BERTRAND85O4 ай бұрын
Would love to collab with you one day man
@TheKayakWarrior4 ай бұрын
Let’s do it!
@BERTRAND85O4 ай бұрын
@@TheKayakWarrior what part of Florida?
@TheKayakWarrior4 ай бұрын
@@BERTRAND85O Tampa
@BERTRAND85O4 ай бұрын
Not too far. I’m in Panama City
@TheKayakWarrior4 ай бұрын
@@BERTRAND85O I’ve always wanted to fish in the Panhandle
@JZReeling Жыл бұрын
Love it 👍
@chuck9490Ай бұрын
If you were to get caught out in bad weather, which kayak would you prefer to be in?
@TheKayakWarriorАй бұрын
@@chuck9490 the Old Town Sportsman for sure
@chuck9490Ай бұрын
@@TheKayakWarrior Hey thanks appreciate you sharing this comparison :)
@jasonogle66022 ай бұрын
Which one do you think would do better going down a shallow river with the pedal drive removed completely.
@TheKayakWarrior2 ай бұрын
In my opinion, the Old Town Sportsman. The deployment and removing the drive is much easier and less cumbersome than the Native. Thanks for watching!
@miamiwax55045 ай бұрын
The warranty with the drive is the biggest issue if you buy a used kayak
@Baccarat80912 ай бұрын
Thank you for your videos I have a question I am new to kayaking I am from Miami My question is can I kayak everywhere or only in permitted places
@TheKayakWarrior2 ай бұрын
Pretty much anywhere except places that say no fishing. Keep in mind the limitations of your kayak and your experience level. I don’t recommend going offshore or fast moving water until you’re comfortable with your kayak.
@Baccarat80912 ай бұрын
@@TheKayakWarrior thanks u
@TheKayakWarrior2 ай бұрын
@@Baccarat8091 you’re welcome
@runnikee6986 Жыл бұрын
I’m considering a Sportsman 120 PDL. I’ll be using it 50/50 for casually cruising our rivers for exercise and for fishing. What is the shallowest water you would say it can go in before needing to raise the drive? How difficulty is it to paddle if I were to need to paddle through shallow areas of the river?
@TheKayakWarrior Жыл бұрын
I have to raise mine up at 1.3 feet (on my fish finder) and it’s not difficult at all to paddle.
@runnikee6986 Жыл бұрын
@@TheKayakWarrior Thank you for the information and fast reply! I’ve enjoyed your videos and they’re helping me make a decision. I’ve looked at used kayaks and the Hobies just seem to get rough as time goes on but I’ve heard the Old Town PDL systems are bulletproof.
@TheKayakWarrior Жыл бұрын
@@runnikee6986 I hope you find the right one!
@runnikee6986 Жыл бұрын
@@TheKayakWarrior That makes two of us.
@mkoic1110 ай бұрын
@The Kayak Warrior if you had to get rid of one of those two, which one would you keep?
@TheKayakWarrior10 ай бұрын
I kept the Old Town Sportsman and sold the Native Slayer.
@BK-rq2zt Жыл бұрын
Rigability is totally a word!😂
@topolos123 Жыл бұрын
I thought the rudder in the slayer max springs down.
@TheKayakWarrior Жыл бұрын
Not that model
@rooster8633 Жыл бұрын
which one is faster ?
@TheKayakWarrior Жыл бұрын
The Native Slayer seems to be slightly faster
@jujubeans2002 Жыл бұрын
which one is faster???
@TheKayakWarrior Жыл бұрын
The Slayer Max, but only slightly
@manny4491 Жыл бұрын
This is a new model! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i8WnotCVyq6do5s.html
@OutdoorMishaps Жыл бұрын
No way would I buy that. If I spend that kind of dough I'm getting an AP120... spot lock and the whole 9.