I've been concerned about trying 914 because it might not wipe off as clean as ONR, which I use on windows and nearly everything. Did you have these troubles with 914 at the standard dilution?

@@willoverkill8461 yes, it was the recommended dilution per the instructions.

@@willoverkill8461 914 has a paint prep dilution. It leaves absolutely nothing on the paint.

And as far as I know ONR is still the only one that can be put into a steamer, used for interior detailing, throw it in your mop bucket to clean kitchen or shop floor etc.

Aaarghh matey….a shill ye shall be….

I have n-914....it sits on the shelf while ONR is the preferred product.

Sounds like he’s saying using a non-Optimum product after ONR might not bond well w/o an ipa wipe down . Are you having good luck with the longevity of non-Optimum products?

@@tommyholt3465 The polymers left behind from ONR do not affect at all so you can use whatever product you want and doesn’t affect longevity. Using Turtle Wax Sealant at the moment.

I hope they don't. That complicates things. What I like about Rag Company is they keep their chemicals simple. With Chemical Guys, I get so confused I end up with choice paralysis.

@@ShelterDogs what you said it’s relatable for many, I had not thought of it that way, imagine for the person that just started learning and getting into detailing their car. I would just recommend a kit at that point.

Unless you are following up with an Optimum paint protection product it's best to use a panel prep after ONR to get the best bond. If you are using a wax you have to reapply so often it most likely doesn't matter.

Some people use ONR to soak the dry car before starting anything else.

Not at the moment.

I lease trade-in detail and use onr when there is an existing dressing with minimal issues

If you haven't already, try leaving a warm ONR-soaked microfiber on it for a few minutes before wiping.

I’m curious how you use ONR as a glass cleaner and what dilution you use. Thanks!

@@cynthiaenglish2736 2 cap fulls in a 32oz bottle of distilled water. Use a little more on the glass that a normal glass cleaner. Use one microfiber to clean and a second to buff dry.

@@cynthiaenglish2736 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bJiRmbJ3tbW3ips.html. 3:13 of this video.

@@sccarguy do you use it on window tint too?

@@AztecPyramid yes its tint safe.

I used it on a Black BMW X2 and many other cars, no issues. How did you use it?

Best method (from Yvan Lacroix himself) for a rinseless is a pre spray of the panels [you decide if you wanna use it at QD, standard, or waterless dilution] then use the pressure washer to knock loose hard dirt. Grab a cheap pump sprayer from Lowe’s and soak down those panels. Then pre rinse with pressure washer.

@@stephen1503 Kinda defeats the whole "no rinse" aspect of it.

@@nsw72 no rinse is just a hard to understand name imo. All it means is you don’t have to rinse after words to get the “soap” off. But you could also treat it like a completely rinse free soap if you want. I wash my car with it without rinsing from time to time and see no new scratches. It’s just modified to your prefer

@@stephen1503 "Rinseless" wash. It's marketed as a product that does not need rinsing. If you want to rinse then that is your choice. And yes, ONR has multiple uses. If one has limited or no water access at the spot the car is being cleaned, for example inside a garage with no taps or drainage, then ONR (or any other rinseless wash) is a fantastic solution. If you have access to water however, and want to use a pressure washer why not do the whole shampoo/handwash dance? I know that Yvan pushed the rinseless method as being the modern version of a car wash but in that case he's just selling the product that his company marketed.

@@nsw72 because then the whole idea is that the polymers lift the dirt off the surface safer than soap surfactants do. And one pressure washer, heck even a hose, and a bucket of ONR that can clean a whole car is still less products and mixing than the whole soap thing. Shoot, you could even do the wheels with ONR and a microfiber if you’re willing to use some elbow grease. All personal preference I guess

Intriguing. What’s the mixture?

@@2old4allthis I use 1:32 but the biggest game changer for me was using a magic eraser. Just be sure not to use it on tint

@@2old4allthis Sorry for the delay; I take a small plastic container, fill with distilled water and just under an ounce of ONR and mix. That is all. No exact measure, just a mix. Clean the inside of the glass with a magic eraser soaked in the mix, wipe dry with a couple of glass specific microfibers. No streaking!

@@b374mxg Thanks

Exactly, I like how these Reps keep dodging the question by answering a totally different question. No one is complaining that the media is dirty upon wiping dirt off a panel, no duh, of course it should be dirty! The real question is: Why is my mitt still looking filthy no matter how many times I dunk it in ONR bucket to rinse and even grind it against grit guard washboard. Other products will truly release dirt into tue bucket and leave you with a clean wash mitt before putting back onto the next panel. I took a microfiber wash pad that was filthy from using it with ONR, rinsed it thoroughly and barely any improvement, went ahead and dumped it into a bucket of Mckee's Rinseless and the mitt cleaned up significantly after letting it dwell in there for a few hrs. So what's the deal?

AND if you get a "sticky" product, you are either stuck with it or have to call and try to get it replaced for another beta. I LOVE ONR, but I don't think this is the right spin on their process. "OMG" i just got a bunch of marring. Then what? They will replace my bottle?

Yeah this is such a sketchy way of doing things. Let's go ahead and release this experimental formula and still sell it at full price. I think it's BS and something's off because their last formula before they slapped the sticker on there, was still different than when they did and I had purchased a bottle of that "Beta" formula like 1 month prior to them making the announcement official.

Yeah this made no sense 🙄

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No. ONR is a rinseless WASH friend. So I suppose you could apply rinseless, then lightly sprits wet coat, then wash it all off

Thats the new version

He actually retired over a year or so ago and did some ambassador things with McKee’s and Lake Country, but he’s mostly been traveling and leading training classes in between retirement.

It's pretty dang good!

We don’t count calories on Keto!

What do you mean? Lol you got me confused!

@@henryfreeman6113 256:1 is the dilution that optimum recommends but they are crazy because the user experience is so much better at one ounce per gallon. Better cleaning ability and much slicker.

@@weaverdetails4747 Hmmm, will try that, Optimum always had me convinced that more isn't better. How about smearing on windows?

@@rheijne95 no smearing, and with ONR one ounce per gallon is better without a doubt.

@@weaverdetails4747 better in what way?

As mentioned in the video there’s a new formula sticker on the bottle.

Easily WG

As far as I know, Yvan left the company because he retired. He's now free to do whatever he wants.

Dr. G never left OPT, he's still at the helm and developing new products and formulations

I also herd he had retired, and at that mustache stage I believe it, so I too am curious if he had worries of a company direction with that level of retirement facial hair

I retired, no dispute in any way. It was simply time for me to move on. Now I’m concentrating on training, coaching, and enjoying life to the fullest. Dr Ghodussi is still doing his thing, making great detailing products.

@@Detailers-Business-Academy well, we miss ya! Best wishes on all current and future endeavors. Thanks for such great video training content when you worked with ONR. It’s a staple in our business and personal use. Cheers!

I'm sure he knows this is what people mean, he's just dodging the question insulting our intelligence. Either that or he really does have poor reading comprehension.

Its not as good as onr

Its better but you wont crack these guys.

@@Jeeper1378 Better in what way? I've heard slickness when wiping off but also heard it streaks more like when using it on glass, interested to hear thoughts if you've tried both

I prefer N914 as well.

@@willoverkill8461 i havnt had a chance to play with the new formula much. N-914 just cleaned better and left the wash media cleaner. Levi mentioned this but has the wrong idea on what it means. The way he describe it.. the wash media staying cleaner leaving dirt on the car. We are talking about staining after use. N-914 cleaned the wash media better and/or prevent it from becoming stained.

Curious, what color is your vehicle, I have been sticking to soap with the whites

I never had a issue but seems with soap it rinses some if the crud off the car. Look at a wash mitt or towel wiping after soap and then a RW. The media and bucket is a lot dirtier using a RW.

Are you using distilled water? That is the only water I use and the results are excellent. Try using multiple microfiber wash mitts also.

Another Weekend Warrior. I have been using ONR for just shy of 10 years now and it never disappoints. I used the multiple MF wash clothes method - aka Gary Dean Method. I have 3 cars atm, all are machined polished with some form of coating on them, albeit only consumer grade coatings. They come up so nicely when they get their routine ONR maintenance wash. Very little evidence of swirling on each of the cars. I do always use the Optimum QD as a drying aid - maybe you should try something like this. Good Luck

Hey there! We’re happy to answer this and hope you can pass this info along. During an ONR wash, the wash media WILL become dirty. Especially using a Microfiber towel or Mitt. Keep in mind, the media is removing more than just light dust from the surface of a vehicle. It’s removing oils from the road, bug splatters, bird droppings etc. So while the media is completely capable of releasing dust particles in ONR, it’s the greasier stuff that may not fully release from the microfiber in one dip. After all, microfibers job is to provide a deeper clean and pull contaminates deep into the fibers. Now, does this worry us about taking that same media back to the paint? Not at all. ONR does a fantastic job of keeping the dirt away from the paint regardless of the media. Hence why the UBS or BRS works so well. BUT WHY DO OTHER RINSELESS WASHES WASH CLEAN RIGHT?! Well that comes down to the fact that other rinseless washes are not full removing the grime from the vehicle. The chemical nature of those will “push” dirt around more than absorb them. Think of it as a high diluted quick Detailer that doesn’t necessarily have the cleaning power but more the lubrication. ONR is a cleaner. That what it does. If it didn’t pull dirt into the wash media, that would be more of a concern because if it’s not in the mitt or towel, it’s still on the panel correct? So now you’re drying more dirt into the paint. So how do you fix dirty wash media? We recommend spraying it down with a APC and performing a normal wash with something like R2R. We have yet to see a ONR dirt stain last up to that combo. Hope that helps!

@@TheRagCompanyFAQ thank you for the detailed reply. I recently got a bottle of R2R and am gonna try that combo cause only soaking in R2R did not work and media still looks stained.

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It's a shame they wanna wait until the market is flooded and other products became more popular before giving us an improved formulation. Before, it was the whole "if it ain't broke don't fix it" responses and now all of a sudden, they're always being improved upon 😕.

@@theoneders2056 exactly. They also need to change their labeling. ONR has its place but as you said the market is flooded with rinseless washes and there are far superior products now but still has it place for the price point.