Olympus E-M1X or E-M1 MKIII - [WHICH One to get?]

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@denniszupan9359 3 жыл бұрын

This is fun. Seeing you go through the same endless yammering that each of us goes through when it comes time to upgrade. I have the E-M1MkII and bought the E-M1X. I shoot mostly birds, but keep trying to branch out to other subjects. At first, i thought the X was too heavy to drag around everywhere in the field, but the more i used it, the more i came to enjoy the ergonomics of it over the MkII. Now that bird AI is finally here, i am glad i have adjusted to the size in the field. When the X was introduced, i thought - no way, misses the point of smaller and lighter, but i admit, i really like it.

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

I had the same thoughts about X when it was released. I did have a chance to test it again in November and I liked it. That is why I started to think about this.

@ridealongwithrandy 3 жыл бұрын

love my X www.rsdunphyphotography.com/mammals

@krashdown5814 Ай бұрын

@@ForsgardPeter I need a camera for my Zhiyun Weebill 2 Pro+ Gimbal, the Mk ii and the Mk iii are both compatible with my gimbal, I suspect the X is too. Chasing people outdoors I would consider wildlife photography. Anybody out there with any input ? Thanks for your efforts Peter 😁 ps I buy 2nd hand with low shutter counts, clearly owned by, and looked after, a genuine photographer.

@ockie50 3 жыл бұрын

The ergonomics of the E-M1x is fantastic !! Best I have ever experienced.

@gregs4163 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@djbuknard 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely agree, I also use a Sony A9 and ergonomically the EM1X is superior (also to my old em1.2)

@cornishblue58 3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. The grip and feel makes for a great handling experience. I did wonder if it was too big, but now find my FF camera less comfortable to hold when compared with the EM1X

@djbuknard 3 жыл бұрын

For me it’s the E-M1X, it’s a superb all weather wildlife camera. Top notch.

@borderlands6606 3 жыл бұрын

The E-M1X has one role, to make the most of compact telephoto lenses in micro four thirds format photography. For more modest focal lengths, you may as well go for a full frame camera which will be no bigger, or enjoy the compactness of the E-M1 MkIII. The 1X is a wildlife camera.

@gregs4163 3 жыл бұрын

Go for the E-M1X , for the times you want a smaller camera you still have the MK II I'm guessing.

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I will keep the E-M1 MKII.

@ulflundh5813 3 жыл бұрын

I love the bigger viewfinder on 1X 👌

@petersteinsberg258 3 жыл бұрын

All the differences you have mentioned are important. For me there are some other points also very interesting. I think the photo qualitiy with the 1/3 is better, and in low light situations the noise is less and it is more easy to reduce the noise (I think this is a advantage of the new processor in the 1/3. You said, the focus-system in the 1X is more modern and I add, that the focus-system in the 1/X is much faster, a big point when photographically hunting birds. Another advantage I experienced, when I took photos of Neowise the comet. I could not see it with my eye, but when I activated starry-focus on my 1/3 I got a magnifecent view of Neowise and made a lot of photos...... and also a point is the weight, since I am not so young anymore, I get tired when shooting with the more heavy 1/X. Wish you all Happy Hollydays and much more important a lot of health!!!!! Best wishes Peter from Vienna, Austria

@faezsj1360 3 жыл бұрын

For me E-M1X the best..

@aroundomaha Жыл бұрын

I appreciate the realness of the review. Now two years after this review I’m looking at the M1X as it is a steal. It replaces a Panasonic G9 that has been the best camera I’ve owned. Looking forward to the even more robust M1X

@davidblack2632 3 жыл бұрын

Good video summarizing the differences between to two great cameras. I am lucky enough to own both. I love the ergonomics and the larger magnification of the EVF on the E-M1X. I do photograph birds a lot and for this type of photography I use the E-M1X. I love the Starry Sky and the Face/eye detection plus the smaller camera size in the E-M1 MkIII. It is a real tough choice. I am lucky enough to own both.

@jeroensbbq620 3 жыл бұрын

I am using the E-M1 mkiii perfect camera, i use 80% for nature birds photography. Yess every one will say use em1x better with last firmware. But EM1X is too big to heavy. E-M1 mkiii with 300mmf4 perfect very very fast.

@wayneemery5709 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Peter I just upgraded from the EM1 mark 2 to the M1 X because of the bird recognition software however what I did like about the em1 mk2 was that when I went birding I will have the grip on to give me that extra Stability with the f4 lens. However when I was just photographing on holiday or doing landscapes then the grip come off and I liked the small portability of the em1 mk2 camera this I miss. I have now been out with the new camera to photograph birds and So far I haven’t really noticed that much difference between the two cameras even with a new recognition software I think I just need more time on the camera?

@Hashbrown37 3 жыл бұрын

I always want to know if my other equipment, like a remote controller, will work with the new camera.

@ramon-photo-austria4838 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks once more Peter, I have tried 4 days several moths ago the EM1 MkIII for free from Germany. I like very much.

@christianjohannesepple9181 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter. I waiting for my em1x . Merry Christmas

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas.

@charne911 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Peter -- this last week I purchased an E-M1x body -- but not at the original price -- I got a very clean second hand body, under 16,000 shutter clicks, for around 1/3 the original price. For that, for me, as an enthusiast, not not a pro, I could justify the purchase. So far, very pleased with it. Please keep up the great work! Your videos are very informative and topics are very timely. And we are so happy to see Finland deciding to join NATO!

@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks and congrats! E-M1X is a marvelous camera. About the other thing 👍!

@luzr6613 5 ай бұрын

Funny... i'm just buying a 1x body and i'm really happy to see Finland in NATO too, and that Orban has finally been bought out by the Swedes as well.

@falkgottschalk 3 жыл бұрын

I had the choice between M1-II and M1-X (when the X has been 1000 EUR more expensive) and took the X, just because it feels so much better in the hands, has a portrait-shutter, and 2 joysticks. Even the m1-III with battery grip does not provide the 2nd joystick. In my opinion, M1-X is the better option. I love my M1X.

@falkgottschalk 3 жыл бұрын

Addon-Remark: The EVF from the M1-X is a little bit larger, might be useful für people who need eye-glasses.

@macpaddy6943 3 жыл бұрын

I have the EM1 Mark III with adding grip and the 100-400mm and the teleconverter MC 20 wich is really great for birds photography. This camera is also great for night sky photography and for birds photography it is really easy to do nice shoots that is why I do not need the EM1X. I think the EM1 Mark III is the best compromise between the 2 camera.

@olympus2OM 3 жыл бұрын

I'm planning to buy M1 mkIII because of the smaller size. But not now, i hope for a cheaper prize 2021 or 2022. I'am no pro and no birdshooter so i don't need the big E-M1X. I like my 5 Mark II and don't want to upgrade to the 5 Mark III. Why i wan't a E-M1 MKIII over my 5 Mark II? Because of the handheld High Res Shot, the better image stabilisation, and the ND filter. Again the E-M1X is too big an heavy for me. And Peter. You will choose the right one.

@shermanhenzel8505 3 жыл бұрын

I have both the EM1 Mark III and the E-MX1. I got the Mark III first and really like all of its features, the size and how easy it is to carry in my hand even with the 100mm-400mm lens attached. I had no intention of getting the E-MX1. But when Olympus dropped the price by $1000 and gave an extra $300 for just requesting a quote on selling old Olympus gear, I decided to get the E-M1X (add to that the Payboo card from B&H saving the tax). I find the E-M1X a great camera to handle, While I can shoot with the E-MX1 hand held it is bulkier and heavier than the Mark III so walking around with it is not as comfortable carry in my hand. I solved this by using the PD Slide strap. Since I often shoot birds on my trail walks the Bird Tracking is excellent. I found it will even find the eye of a deer, I have pre-ordered the 150-400mm lens and that should be a perfect for the E-MX1.

@stephencopland1053 3 жыл бұрын

I bought the m3 for bird photography in may this year and now wishing I got the m1x because of the bird firmware. From this experience I have learned to go for the flagship model if you can afford it. I suspect the m1x maybe more likely to get upgraded face recognition and starry sky than the m3 is to get bird recognition

@cornishblue58 3 жыл бұрын

I did the same. Have recently got the EM1X in the Black Friday deals because of the new firmware.

@HolisticWithin 3 жыл бұрын

I am very used to the size and feeling of my GH5 with a battery grip, so now I am having a hard time getting used to how small the Em1 mark iii is. I think I would have loved the ergonomics of the EM1X

@AKwildphoto 3 жыл бұрын

I rented both EM1X the em1 iii to test the waters when I was thinking of jumping ship from Nikon after over 25 years. I loved them both but ultimately bought the EM1X because I like the way it felt better in my (large) hands. After the firmware upgrade the only thing I feel I’m lacking is the starry AF from the 1 iii as I am a landscape and Astro photographer more than I am a portrait photographer. I hope they add that in a firmware update in the future or make a mark ii of the EM1X that has it all. I’ve since sold off almost all my Nikon gear but will be selling that off soon too now that I’ve gotten more used to the OM-D system and to help finance the new 150-400 coming out next month for my wildlife photography

@StephenStrangways 3 жыл бұрын

I had an E-M5 II with the two-part vertical grip, and there was some flex between all those connections when it was on a tripod. I switched to the E-M1 II and the single-piece grip was fewer connections so it was more stable. The E-M1X would be perfect! I also like that it gives you a joystick in the vertical position, that the E-M1 III doesn't have because it re-uses the E-M1 II grip.

@alistairmcturk4085 3 жыл бұрын

I wanted the E-M1X for the subject detection (bird AF). However, I found the size of the body was the thing that made me choose the E-M1 MKIII. I have to work a little harder when photographing birds, but I can live with that. I also enjoy the Starry Sky AF, which, as you say, is a lot of fun. As you say your professional work involves a lot of portrait work, I would have thought the better AF in the MKIII would be a decision maker for you. But you also say you prefer the ergonomics of the M1X. All in all, I'm very happy with my MKIII. It does everything I need (and a whole lot more), but it's down to personal preference. From your video, I think that the ease of use of the M1X with the dual joysticks may make that the one you end up buying. Either way, you will have a superb tool for your work and leisure.

@mjsworkshop 3 жыл бұрын

I have the MK3 and LOVE it! I mainly shoot studio stuff--product/furniture with it. But I recently started doing some bird photography and that bird AF on the EM1-X looks amazing! So of course, now I'm wishing I had the EM1-X. I wonder if there is any chance of bird AF coming to the MK3? BTW, loved your review of the 150-400. Thanks for all the great content and stay safe!

@daviddexter3831 Жыл бұрын

how can I use the Hi Rez mode and a shutter delay. I have a EM5 Mark 11 Thanks

@ForsgardPeter Жыл бұрын

I am not sure if you can do that. If I remember correctly there is only a setting for flash delay between shots.

@lesreed6230 3 жыл бұрын

I have the EM1X with the updated software for Bird AF . This also seems to recognise other animals as well and focuses on their eye .

@joetag5429 3 жыл бұрын

I recently went through the same thought process and got the mark III. Features, weight and need guided my decision, just as you suggest. Be well and Happy Holidays.

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Happy Holidays to you too!

@tatrat4d 3 жыл бұрын

I was exactly in the same situation, finally I opted for the X, mainly because I will keep the EM5 for it.a modularity. The AI functions are for me more inviting than the face detection. Honestly, as the only camera, I would also go for the Mark III

@kevinl1492 Ай бұрын

This video is 3 years old but still relavent to me because I recently bought both of these cameras. I got two bodies because when I am working, I usually carry two bodies with different lenses mounted. I really like the EM1X. Even if I move on from M4/3 for work, the EM1X would be a keeper just for fun shooting. But results have been very good, so far. However, even though the EM1.3 is a good tool, I just cannot warm up to it.

@dennisng4627 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Peter, as a casual photographer, I’d go for 📷 with emotional appeals (4 Fuji X series 📷 & 4 Olympus Pen series 📷). Each just beckons me to go out to 📸 & each yields a different emotive 📸 experience. You as a Pro, would need a workhorse that’s most suited for your bread earnings. There’s just too many choices than 💵 available. Have a safe & wonderful holidays.

@samson40a 3 жыл бұрын

Off topic question but would you consider the OMD EM1 mkii as a worthwhile purchase? I am looking to possibly move from another mirrorless camera. Thanks

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

It certainly is. I will be still using it even though I most likely get a E-M1 MKIII or the X.

@velvetvideo Ай бұрын

2024...is the starry AF or face detection added yet? How does this still stack up to g9ii and xt5?

@ForsgardPeter Ай бұрын

Not that I know of. Haven't used G9II or XT-5 so cannot really say. I can say that XT-5 is meant for a bit different type of photography that E-M1X for example. Those two cameras cannot really be compared.

@k4zzt 3 жыл бұрын

for me I always like the vertical grip even though it is bigger and heavier , so I'm going to end up with the em1x

@royjenkins-packer173 3 жыл бұрын

In October, thinking of upgrading from EM5 mk 3. Doing research on EM1X and EM1 MK3. I have always added the grip to cameras, so I was looking at Em1x, but would I like to have the grip all the time. With the price, EM1 mk 3 would be higher in price with the grip. About £150 different. I was given a wispa that Em1x was on the November black friday list. So waited to see what price drop would come. The price did drop by £150 pounds. So I did get the Em1x and am very happy with it, still learning the system, got help with the 650 plus page maunel. I am more into animals and landscape photography, with a little into portrait. Peter have a lovely holiday season with family and stay safe.

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

The price of the grip is a good point. I do have a grip for E-M1 MKII and I could use that with E-M1 MKIII.

@jackwestcott4469 3 жыл бұрын

Among the several Olympus bodies that I am fortunate enough to possess, I have the original Em1 w/ a battery grip. I absolutely love it because the ergonomics are just so fun and based on that, I decided to try the Em1X thinking it’d be about the same size...no, sir. It is massive, it made me feel like I was back to using my Nikon D800E so I went with the Em1 Mark III and I am absolutely ecstatic that I did. I was a bit fussy when Bird AF was not introduced in the 1.3 but the AF is still good enough that I have no complaints. Em1 Mark III is just a fun little devil which has virtually all the capabilities of the Em1X and then some.

@peteedmondson4678 3 жыл бұрын

Just for the ergonomics alone I would go for the Em1x. I love mine but I will prob also buy the em1 mk3 for the face and eye detect unless they add a firmware update to the Em1x

@dust4427 3 жыл бұрын

As everything in life you can’t get it all, For a person with big Hands the em1x is fantastic and very comfortable. I’ve got my emx1 and I’m very happy with it.

@PB2N 3 жыл бұрын

Hello Peter, Is it possible to program a minimum release speed in mode A ? It is not possible on EM1 mk1, but is it possible on Em1 mk3 or X ? Pascal (France)

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

No it is not.

@PB2N 3 жыл бұрын

@@ForsgardPeter Thank you for your response.It's a shame about street photography; A mode, minimum shooting speed and auto ISO are ideal.

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

I agree that it would be a good feature.

@johnwhiteaway2795 3 жыл бұрын

I have both the EM1x and the EM1 mk3 and quite simply for me it is to do with what I am wanting to photograph on the day as to what I carry. For general walkaround daily camera I use the Mk3 with the 12-100mm F4 pro. For all wildlife and especially Bird photography I use the 1x with the 300mm F4 pro + 1.4x tele. Most day's I have both setups in the bag in the bag to cover everything but I found the balance on the mk3 with the 300mm and 1.4x to be front heavy the 1x is actually very well balanced with this combo. Also the twin battery built in grip is brilliant on the 1x as I usually have the camera on more when doing wildlife. Also the 2 x UHS2 card slots is also an advantage for fast shooting on the 1x.

@stevebonn3463 3 жыл бұрын

I went with the III earlier this year, and have benefitted from the handheld hi-res (also in the X) and starry sky autofocus. Technically, it is probably possible for either camera to get the features of the other one via firmware upgrades. Whether or not it will happen, and when, is another matter. Thomas Stirr's blog raves about the advantages of Bird AI.

@morrisbagnall2690 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter, interesting insight on the recent changes.

@morrisbagnall2690 3 жыл бұрын

If I was looking to upgrade from my EM1 MkII and could keep the II then I would get the EM1X. When I absolutely needed a lightweight rig I would take the II with me and when I didn't I would use the X. The X may yet get the Face Recognition upgrade but is it REALLY necessary? I find the FR on the MkII to be pretty damn good.

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. A good point.

@jubourdin 3 жыл бұрын

If your usual photo bag can allow for the bigger one or not is part of the answer. For others, package offered (12-40 as kit at a faire price) can make the difference also. But, if you're OK with your mark2, maybe wait a little bit of time to see the next firmware wave and see what differences are then (and prices would be lower then)

@eduardolibby1394 3 жыл бұрын

The EM1-3 can do birds in flight about as well as the EM1-x (Matthieu’s mirrorlessons review) and with practice I am sure you will do well enough with perched birds. I don’t feel bird detection is a deal breaker. Being a good birder might be!

@rinusworldzm Жыл бұрын

I'm loving your videos. Between the Em-1 Mkiii and the m-1x, for video work priority, which would you pick?

@ForsgardPeter Жыл бұрын

I would choose E-M1 Mark III.

@DaveParizek 3 жыл бұрын

Will the M1X get the better face recognition? It is surprising and distressing to me that Olympus has gone and given the Mark III important critical features that the M1X does not have when M1X is supposed to be the professional flagship. Also bites that M1X did not get the Starry AF star/astro photography features the MIII got.... where does the differentiation make sense when the M1X should be getting ALL the features as pro flagship?

@kamilrakowski23 3 жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree with you. That's why I sold m1x and bought m1mkiii

@Smoothblue90 3 жыл бұрын

My go to camera for work and for out and about is my Olympus M1 Mark II with my Lumix 12-35mm 2.8 lens. I don't need any more features.

@petedraper5185 3 жыл бұрын

I'm fortunate to own one of each: I use my EM1X for birds and mammals and my EM1 mark III for macro - generally speaking. The EM1X is certainly more comfortable to hold in combination with my 300mm f4, but the EM1.3 is fine with my PL 200mm f2.8 and great with my 14 - 150mm f3.5 - 5.6 II and 60mm f2.8 macro. I certainly consider my EM1X to be my primary camera, but my EM1.3 is better for the occasional informal portraits I take of my family at parties - especially when used with my Meike 320P minispeedlite.

@evenhandedcommentor6102 3 жыл бұрын

Had a similar dilemma, but GetOlympus helped when they put a 20% discount on the E-M1x refurbished on cyber Monday. I like using the battery holder on my E-M1 Mk2. I still have the E-M1 original...and have the battery holder on that. The problem with these battery holders is that the battery inside the camera is not easily accessible. You have to remove the holder. Yeah, it's not that hard, but still. I much prefer the battery holder on the E-M1x. I prefer the better weather sealing on the E-M1x. I like the bird detection on the E-M1x. The lens I most use is the 300mm f/4 Pro. Often I use it with the TC20 or TC14. The balance is better with a heavier camera and that lens. For you...maybe a tough call. For me...not so much. I actually like the feel of the E-M1x better than the E-M1 mk2 with battery holder. I haven't tried the mk3 with battery holder, but I'm guessing the E-M1x would win that battle too.

@alantuttphotography 3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you would enjoy the E-M1x more, and if the price is that close, I'd go that direction.

@berntlie6799 3 жыл бұрын

I bought the E-M1.iii this spring: my main reason at that time was (i) the price (the E-M1x was considerably more expensive then), and (ii) the size (I walk long trips, like 30-40 km carrying the gear). In general, I think there should be a marked improvement in order to upgrade. I'm quite happy with the E-M1.iii, in particular wrt. a slight improvement in IBIS, and the face/eye detection. But the camera is slightly small -- my pinkie slides off the grip. Although I'm not in the market for the 150-400, I think the E-M1x would be "necessary" to take full advantage of that lens. -- For professionals who mainly transport their gear by car, the size of the E-M1x is no big deal. You have longer battery time with two batteries. The only downside may be the lack of face/eye detection. But if that was not a huge problem on the E-M1.ii, then I think the E-M1x would be fine.

@bradw7084 3 жыл бұрын

Size & price would convince me significantly, given that performance is pretty similar. EM1iii for me on that basis. If you shoot the longest lenses, handling may tip the balance the other way.

@thatsentertainment5602 6 ай бұрын

Excellent video comparison between both cameras. Portrait photography is important for me so I would go with the EM 1 Mark 3.

@ForsgardPeter 6 ай бұрын

Thanks. Glad it was helpful.

@birdingbilly 3 жыл бұрын

I have the same dilemma as you - I am a keen bird photographer so the X appeals but then the main reason I moved to Oly from Canon was to downsize and loose weight so in that respect the III appeals - it's a tough choice especially now the price is so similar

@ridealongwithrandy 3 жыл бұрын

It was was easy for me. I rented the X, and fell in love with it. it was mostly for the ergonomics and how it felt in my hands. I also shoot critters and birds in the wild and wanted a tough camera. Also, the dual batteries was important as I have always gripped my cameras, and the dual battery setup is very accessible. Using the X with big lenses is also important to me.

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

Good points.

@MALBACHinc Жыл бұрын

Im in exact dilemma. Thank you for this episode. Im years late when this came out. 1 would go for 1x for endurance or 1iii for newer processor.

@lyonesse9083 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Peter, I’ve been an. Olympus fan for Years - going back to Om4 and before. I bought E-M1MKll and enjoyed using it. However, some times when out and about and trying to get those “In the moment,” shots I got hung up on the controls. Maybe I’m clumsy! But of course I loved the compactness. Although battery charging minus USB was a hassle. When the E-M1X came along I went also to have a look - the moment I picked it up it fitted like a glove! Sure, it’s a bit heavier, ( And I miss the compactness) but it works for me. Battery life good, charge on the hoof, whatever the lens or whatever the shot, portrait or landscape, it’s there. I wouldn’t be surprised if face priority becomes available. After all, both models are unique in their own way? For me the X is better overall -

@qphase49 3 жыл бұрын

I like my M1X enough that I bought a second one. With My large hands the M1X's work better for me than my MK II/III did.

@ppalumbo_ca 3 жыл бұрын

I am considering buying another em1ii. There are still some left at amazing prices. It is enough camera for me.

@softtubefun 3 жыл бұрын

Size was a big factor for me, but you have the EM1mk2. However you seem to want the face detection more than bird af?

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

Face Priority is the one I need for work. Thats why it is quite important. On the other hand I have managed ok so far with E-M1 MKII.

@Izya001 3 жыл бұрын

Dear Peter. I have many cameras - Sony, Fuji, Samsung, and Panasonic GX85. It turns out that I get the best videos from my low-cost Lumix GX85 in 4K and/or 12-35 2.4 or Lumix/Leica 15 mm/1.7. Even Sony's a7S full-frame does not come close. OIS, 4K, and/or MFT or something else makes the video and colors special. I realize that Lumix GX85 is an old and inexpensive camera with 16 MB sensor. Is there anything in Olympus line (not professional - I use it to take videos of my grandkids) that MAY improve upon GX85. May be 20 MB new sensors, num-cropped 4K ? Better OIS?. Thanks

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

the IBIS is very good in E-M5 MKIII for video. That could be an option.

@AlpacoFilms 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve had my em1 mark iii for a little over a month and I LOVE IT! There’s actually more of a usable difference compared to em1 mark II than I thought!

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

There ares ome good improvments in E-M1 MKIII. I like the joystick, what is our favorite?

@AlpacoFilms 3 жыл бұрын

@@ForsgardPeter yes the joystick is a fantastic addition! I love that there’s a dedicated ISO button a well. It changes how I use the camera to a way I prefer. I also really love My Menu to quickly access other features without having to dig!

@glsracer 3 жыл бұрын

The EM1-X seems like it is targeted at a niche group of M43 photogs so I'd go with the G9. If I had to get an Olympus then I'd have an EM1-III

@mauriceb9558 3 жыл бұрын

I think you should go with what you need which is Omd M1 Mark III. I have also the EM1MarkII and like you I find the EM1X too big. I think the next firmware update will bring some of its features to the EM1MARKIII.

@frederickbelin 3 жыл бұрын

I went through the same process before I bought the em1 mkIII with the optional grip. Because I don’t have a spare camera, I wanted something smaller if I needed it. The grip is a good compromise for bigger lens to make the camera more balanced. If I had a spare, I might have gone for the m1x. Just to get the best of both worlds. I found the mkIII with grip a little too big for quick urban shooting with small lens. I’m sure I’d get used to the m1x at some point. It’s a tough decision but it’s fun to shop for a new camera. Enjoy the process and Merry Christmas.

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Merry Christmas

@markbray3038 3 жыл бұрын

If you use a grip for the MK11, then the 1X would be the one I would go for. Both cameras can be fun. Its down to any extra cost latter.

@rjakiel73 Жыл бұрын

The Em1 mk3 and Em1x are pretty much the same price now and I went through the same decision process. I ended up with the EM1X. The slightly larger size worked better in my large hands and when out and about in the field the extra battery was another deciding factor. Lastly the bird AF was more useful than I thought it would be particularly for those tiny little buggers.

@carolarchdale5625 3 жыл бұрын

I have both and I prefer the EM1X and funnily enough it is because it is heavier. It is much better to hold and the bird AF is very good.

@cornishblue58 3 жыл бұрын

Same here Carol, and totally agree

@didian12 3 жыл бұрын

hi Peter. any rumor about new model of pen series?

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

I have not heard anything new about a possible Pen-F MkII. There are rumors, but no official info about it.

@joerghummerjohann4854 3 жыл бұрын

Welcome to club, Peter :-) I went out of the "must have the newest gear" circle - because of YOUR videos. :-) less bodies - more lenses! I bought instead the 300mm/f4 lens and a second Em1ii body. My goal is to master the body blindfold to do animal and model shootings. This already payed off. Yes, I love birds! But the nicest bird shoots were depending more on the moment and the light, less on gear performance. For me, a new body has to wait until the next generation of sensors. (My ideas but finally no answer for doubts of choice)

@pauliilomaki5302 3 жыл бұрын

I chose E-M1 III because of the smaller size and weight. That was in spite of the bird AF and I do like bird photographing.

@lynnecameron9976 3 жыл бұрын

Does the image stabilisation in the new 150 - 400 lens work with the mark I camera?

@palamj2 3 жыл бұрын

If cameras are similar, size and versatility should be your deciding factor. With the Mkiii you have the option of battery grip or not for size and if you use large lenses you can put the grip on. This option you don’t have with the Em1x.

@photohounds 3 жыл бұрын

I love these comparisons. As you say, mk2 is excellent. Maybe, I "need" a mk3 and an X .. LOL, lotto win first. Merry Christmas 🎅

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Merry Christmas.

@christoffeldeckx8011 3 жыл бұрын

I took the EM1X over the EM1mk3. But after the update I lost the peaking setting in the Button menu B. For the rest I ame happy with the EM1

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

Really? Peaking settings gone?

@christoffeldeckx8011 3 жыл бұрын

@@ForsgardPeter Hello Peter Afer the upgrade to version 2 the peaking as gone . Solved after a complete reset.

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear.

@Forthejoyofphotography 3 жыл бұрын

Form factor versus features......features that you will actually use, regularly. In a camera such as the EM1x you cannot remove the battery grip. With a camera like the EM1 MkII. You can add a grip.

@anatolpan 3 жыл бұрын

Asked myself the same question (own an e-M1MkII too (currently under overhaul shortly before end of extended warranty) - and went for the E-M1X, as you mentioned the price is more reasonable now, and 'Black Week' offers gave me an additional discount of 10%, so this camera for EUR 1,800 was a 'bargain' taking into consideration the features (and dual-processor performance - although the 'old one') - and hoping that the additional face detection feature currently only in the 1MkIII will be implemented in firmare for the E-M1X one day soon ... ;-)

@ChristianStettlerWalensee 3 жыл бұрын

For me, the EM1 MIIIand size was the choice , I am travelling a lot, so the weight and size are for me the point.s After 6 month, I think it was the right choice for me

@ramon-photo-austria4838 3 жыл бұрын

Being honest Peter, a better or more expensive camera does not make a better Photographer. I guess just see how is my Budget and what i need from the camera and also of course the most important, If I buy one or another as a professional must be realistic and If my job will pay the camera itself. I find it very important. All the best Peter.

@cwl1354 3 жыл бұрын

I was hesitating between these two. After reading through those comments below I am more firm to go for EM1x.

@CarolyneMacMillan 3 жыл бұрын

I'm a list maker because it helps me to sort my thoughts out better. I list what I subjects I shoot the most right now, what I want to try shooting for fun and what I might need that I don't have for that new subject. I also list if there are any things that might help me shoot my current subjects easier/better. When I've sorted out what I need I then look at what's around to fill those needs. Then if I can, I try to get a hands on feel in a shop. That's the most important step really. It doesn't matter what it looks like on paper. If it feels like crap in my hands I won't buy it. At the end of the day, people shoot great images with every camera brand out there, with all different sensor sizes and mp amounts, so the spec part really doesn't matter once you sort out the basic specs you need. After that you can buy any brand that feels comfortable to use. Ergonomics rule in the end.

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

Good points.

@tomweis1194 3 жыл бұрын

The E-M1 MKIII and the E-M1 MKII share the same battery grip (and thus the same battery) so for me the E-M1 MKIII was a no-brainer. So happy I didn’t have to buy a new/different battery grip! I wanted the smaller body anyway (i.e. the grip is removable when desired). Face/Eye detection on the E-M1 MKIII is definitely better - it’s more sensitive (will grab a face when it’s small in the frame) and stickier than the E-M1 MKII. My only complaint is the AF joystick which I don’t need, and the addition of it caused the INFO and MENU buttons to move so I have to remember which camera I’m holding now - I can’t rely on muscle memory to find the INFO button. I got mine for $1399US also. Just need the 8mm fisheye now... gear acquisition never ends.

@technomama1 3 жыл бұрын

why not pen-f? Because E-(), Mk and simillar represent of itself just a bit smaller slr's. Or little smaller than full or half frame cameras.

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

Pen-F has been in my mind for a long time. More that once have I "decided" to get a Pen-F. Still might if I can find a good one with a reasonable price.

@technomama1 3 жыл бұрын

@@ForsgardPeter thank you very much for your classes and replays. I'm looking for good Pen F too! - mostly for it has eye visor, which my EP-1 doesn't and which othervice works great.

@catherinetremerryn 3 жыл бұрын

Shall be interested to see which one you choose. I would probably go for the 3, due to the weight. Mind you I would love the bird AF. What a lovely position to be in. Have a fantastic Christmas Peter.

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks you! You too Merry Christmas.

@Yduok 3 жыл бұрын

The E-M1 MK III was an easy choice for me. I switched from Canon. The perfect camera for my needs. Professional device that has great features, it's small and light, great ergonomics and adjustable buttons, good price. The only reason it's not the best is that it doesn't have a new feature called "bird detection", which is sad, but I understand Olympus policy. I believe the E-M1X is an excellent camera, the same in many ways, but I personally don't like the size. You don't make a mistake with any of them, it's more about personal needs and small differences.

@Bakin 3 жыл бұрын

Peter; many Olympus users switched to Micro 4//3s because of size advantage and the convenience of reduced weight. Based on that there is a significant advantage of the Em1 Mark III in both. Carrying around the extra weight of the E-M1X with its extended camera bulk and required extra battery may not provide you much other than the potential of being able to take pictures of fast birds now and then. Last I checked birds are not paying customers. If it was me I would select the EM1 Mark III. Of course your selection must be on your needs and wants.

@johnbelli9390 3 жыл бұрын

EM-1 or EM-1X is not really a question I need to ask myself right now, but I did just upgrade my EM-10 Ⅲ to an E-M10 Ⅳ, and I got more megapixels and the ability to use the electronic shutter in more than a single SCN mode setting.

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

If you have the possibility to upgrade, do it. E-M10 MKIV is a better camera than E-M10 MKIII.

@Lordvader330 3 жыл бұрын

I recently purchased the X at $1800 reconditioned from Olympus. I take more wildlife and environmental portraiture. The X is perfect for that. I also take a lot astrophotography shots. I always use manual focus mostly with the 8 mm fisheye. So the Starry AF is useless for me. But that’s my shooting preferences. I still use my E-M 1 Mark II as well.

@louismanna5147 3 жыл бұрын

Greetings from southern Indiana, USA! I had the em 5 mk ii with grip and power pack as a backup. I never really liked the power pack. I don't take that many portrait shots that the power pack is beneficial. I didn't like the weight. Eventually, I got rid of the em5 and upgraded to an em1 mk2 (or 3 - never can keep those numbers straight!) But now the newer camera and backup use the same batteries, so it is one less charger to use. And bringing along an extra battery in my bag is very light. For me to stop and replace a battery isn't that big a deal. YOUR photography, however, may be more demanding where you don't want to change batteries while on the job.

@robb8773 3 жыл бұрын

I would buy the EM1 Mark III with the battery grip, this way you have a small camera and if you use large lenses and do portrait work you can install the grip.

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

That is a good point.

@robb8773 3 жыл бұрын

@@ForsgardPeter Thanks. I just upgraded from the EM1 Mark II to Mark III. I notice the improvements in AF and I like having the dedicated ISO button and joystick. Now looking to get the grip so it becomes and EM1X with the grip and stays EM1 without the grip! I hope OM Digital puts a better sensor (maybe the Sony 37Mp) in future cameras, I love the Oly system!

@glennsak 3 жыл бұрын

Good gawd, the E-M1X is massive for a micro 4/3 sensor camera

@chetanunindracusin664 3 жыл бұрын

I have them both but for pro work I think for brid (flying) caf.better than brid af for stationary brid brid af if you not outdoor shooter get em1 mark 3 ps. You might got more usr out of it good luck peter

@sigbjoernrevheim2125 3 жыл бұрын

I’m shooting RAW to both card slots, and then the E-M1X is still useful when the buffer is full since it still have a high frame rate while the E-M1 halts when the buffer is full because of the slow second card slot. So if you use both card slots and shoot bursts that exceeds the buffer, then E-M1X is the only choise. Nothing is as painful as waiting for the buffer to clear while action is happening and you should be taking pictures.

@zenjitsuman 3 жыл бұрын

Peter, while we both have almost all the M43 focal lengths we need if I wanted a bigger camera I would be looking at an APSc or small FF like the Sony A7riii, they are somewhere in size between the Mkiii and the EM1x, but the FF sensor would be good for subject isolation and high ISO also the sensor resolution is higher so cropping in for you portrait work would be an advantage. Buying a new camera is always a tuff decision.

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

It is a very hard decission.

@Planedude60 3 жыл бұрын

Buy a M1X, sell your Mark II, and when you can, buy the Mark III. Or buy the M1X, and keep the Mark II. I have both for the reasons you say. I bought the M1X first, and used it for 4 months. Then, I bought the Mark III, and I find the ergonomics on the M1X superb. I've had the high-end Nikons, and yet for all of M4/3's supposed drawbacks, the M1X is the best camera I've ever had and used in my 48 years of advanced/pro photography. The Bird AI just made photography fun for me again! It's been a long time since I've had so much fun. Starry Sky, is nice, but meh... I find the switchology on the Mark III cramped, and yet if you're used to the Mark II, maybe the Mark III would be better. Humungous to extra-large hands works well with the M1X. Large hands work better with the Mark III. I'm a retired fighter pilot, and no men have "small hands," except for women. Its Large, Extra-Large, and Humungous sizing. Same as with condoms. Both is the best, but I do understand personal budgeting. Look at Thomas Stirr's blog about the M1X. It'll help you make the decision: smallsensorphotography.com/ Also look at Espen Hellend's KZfaqs: kzfaq.info/love/KGLNC3RJIpqdaPN5S1d_9Q Not to plug someone else's KZfaq, but he also had the same questions you do.

@furiobisotti8150 3 жыл бұрын

I am planning to buy M1 mkIII. I am an amateur, not clicking during pandemic, so not in a hurry. Just want to see how Olympus brand develops. I prefer M1 mark III because I like travel photography, a device close to my current M1 mark II is much more comfortable. I love 12-40 mm f2. 8

@teto55055 3 жыл бұрын

i think the next x2 next year will be very strong camera

@leonardodavinci5779 3 жыл бұрын

In the beginning you said that you changed for 4/3 because of the size and the weight...

@ForsgardPeter 3 жыл бұрын

Yes I did. E-M1X is still quite small compared to other brands.

@davex142 3 жыл бұрын

As they both are great cameras with their own respective strenghts, I am afraid there is only one way to solve this problem - get both of them :D

@FairwayHRH-wr8lj 3 ай бұрын

This is the struggle I am currently facing. Right now they are blowing out new M1x's on the website for $1500, The used market has these priced similarly. Not sure what to do, but I doubt I would regret either. I currently use an old school em-5, which I love, but it is a little more sensitive in the dark and a little low on the resolution.