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OM617 Performance Series: Injection Pump & Fuel Filter Modification, Idle Adjust, ALDA, & Fuel Lines
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Күн бұрынFor injection pump upgrades, there is only one viable option: dieselmeken.se
dieselmeken@msn.com
I DO NOT recommend getting a pump from their vendors or anyone else.
Need a turbo to go along with your modified pump? Need a turbo for your stock pump? I offer the best turbo options for this engine: www.doomsdaydi...
ALDA Delete Instructions: • OM617 Performance Seri...
ALDA Explanation Correction: The MW Pump's ALDA begins to add fuel at 0.3 BAR, and fully opens by 0.7 BAR. With the 7.5mm pump, you'll have enough fuel at 0.7 BAR for 1.5 BAR's worth of boost. This means you should plan to run a turbo with a wastegate set no lower than 1.5 BAR so you can burn all of the fuel.
Loctite 542 would be best suited for the fuel filter adapter, but 243 also works.
This video is LOADED with info! Save yourself the hours of research that it takes to find all this info by watching this 50 minute video. I give insights to the 7.5mm injection pump that I gained from Dieselmeken, themselves.
ALDA Delete: www.doomsdaydi...
Fuel Filter Adapter: www.doomsdaydi...
Cohline Line available here: www.doomsdaydi...
Fuel filter bolt o-rings: 003-997-58-48-INT
000-997-00-48-M22
0:00 Intro
1:44 Pump Options
2:32 Pump Differences
3:06 Modification-Shop Options
6:45 Idle Adjustment
8:05 ALDA Explanation (see below for correction)
10:50 Pump Removal
14:25 Shipping a Pump
23:38 Making Cohline Fuel Lines
31:49 Fuel Filter O-Rings
33:57 Fuel Filter Donaldson/CAT Adapter Installation
35:58 Pump Installation
43:38 Pump Timing (Drip Timing)
47:39 ALDA Adjustment
@doomsdaydiesel Жыл бұрын
Oof... was making a joke at the beg. of video about Ian Johnson back in 2020, but then my hair looks like the new XOR host after that 😅🤣 What are the chances!?!?
@doomsdaydiesel 3 жыл бұрын
FINALLY figured out the time stamp table! You have to start with 0:00 otherwise it doesn't register. It also appears to need the time on the left side and the description on the right. Notice the red time bar now has the intervals shown and labeled!
@dieselbenzrevive6820 4 жыл бұрын
WOW this video format is great! thank you
@dondaughtrey7537 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for sharing this, helped me complete my parts list. I live on the outer Island of Hawaii- I try to have as complete a list of parts as possible before I begin, otherwise, I can end up waiting a month for a part to come in!
@nutragardens6632 3 жыл бұрын
I have one that works with Vegetable oil
@willvan9072 4 жыл бұрын
11:48 That serpentine belt setup!
@rlr240sc 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. I’m going to get one now!!! And yes mine has 85whp stock
@rlr240sc 3 жыл бұрын
I purchased the upgrade from benz force, sent in a used pump I had and they performed the upgrade. Wow 🤩 the new pump is bad ass. This thing rolls out now. I had to adjust the Mercedes automatic transmission to firm up the shifts. I need to put it on the rolling road now.
@Ajme-kb4os 2 жыл бұрын
@@rlr240sc did it liven it up? I’m getting ready to send mine in. My Toyota is super sluggish even with good compression and valve adjustment.
@rlr240sc 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ajme-kb4os yes it’s like a completely different engine. Worth every penny
@Bodeesafa 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks Joe
@brian3911 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome information! Thank you.
@MrJustinWheeler 9 ай бұрын
Great video! Appreciate all the info.
@guntherdrawert2041 2 жыл бұрын
Very well explain very good videos you got thank you for sharing your knolege very profesional keep the good job
@nutragardens6632 3 ай бұрын
Just got the Alda delete
@michalmuszynski6942 Жыл бұрын
thank you for great manual
@coachgeo 10 ай бұрын
alda line at 4mmx 21"... assume that is 4mm ID?? But since how assuming is spelled.... am asking. thanks in advance
@RAZORCANITRUNCRYSIS 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@Stevenn2186 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure if you or anyone else would know this but I was wondering what ball park 0-60 time I could expect with your 220whp figure on a w123 or w126 chassis? Amazing content and channel BTW!
@doomsdaydiesel 4 жыл бұрын
My R&D truck went from 26s to
@countlesshobbiesmk2273 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome content. Thank you for this video! I’ve been looking for IP timing instructions. Will try to my 190D with OM602.961. Do you know how similar it will be? Also, considering getting fuel filter adapter you were showing. What are the advantages of changing stock fuel filter?
@doomsdaydiesel 3 жыл бұрын
I really don't know anything about the 602. You'd be better off contacting dieselmeken.se I'm sure the fuel filter setup is different. The 603 & 606 are completely different and my adapter won't work for them. The advantage is longer service intervals and finer filtration. More readily available filters, and cheaper, too. You can also add water separation to the Donaldson.
@nollidredins6257 Жыл бұрын
Just read the description went on your site to look at a turbo and sadly out of stock. Sad days
@doomsdaydiesel Жыл бұрын
I'm not out of stock. I have an entire room full of turbo's.
@nollidredins6257 Жыл бұрын
@@doomsdaydiesel oh sorry I looked last night and it showed most out of stock like the 60mm. But I just checked and see there are turbos in stock for my om617 which is perfect
@beeeeeeezy 2 жыл бұрын
What is the best way to drain fluids from the pump? I am rebuilding my OM617 after bearing damage, and although I'm not planning on sending the injection pump to anyone, I don't want any potential metal shavings left in there. Should I just put it on its end and let the fluid drip out?
@doomsdaydiesel 2 жыл бұрын
Good question. I'd pull the back cover off and the plugs on the side and hit it with parts cleaner thoroughly.
@freddurst7181 3 жыл бұрын
I need help.bad so glad I found ur channel lol
@freddurst7181 3 жыл бұрын
Ready learned some things in this video ur knowledge of these motors and way u explain it is top notch guy from mercedes source just confused me lol
@nutragardens6632 3 ай бұрын
I can get you pumps like this from Albania my friend
@HumCoNelsons 2 жыл бұрын
So with your comment under the video, are you NOT recommending BenzForce for my injection pump upgrade, and send it straight to DieselMeken?
@doomsdaydiesel 2 жыл бұрын
Correct
@coachgeo 10 ай бұрын
if one came up with a way to do it? would there be any value to being able to vary the IP timing (rotate it to/away from block) on the fly? Like is the IP timing position one that is MB recommended as a bit of a happy spot that tends to handle a wide range of conditions (idle to load) where if one could do varying IP under more specific conditions, would such be more advantageous theoretically? If the load condition variability not much value..... what about ability to vary for when using different light oils as a fuel on a weekly or so basses. One's that combust at a different pressure/heat point than diesel or the fuel used prior to new fill up? Just wrapping my head around stuff.
@doomsdaydiesel 10 ай бұрын
The multifuel in the deuces had what you're talking about
@coachgeo 10 ай бұрын
@@doomsdaydiesel did those adjust IP timing mostly? hmm.. will have to look that up
@doomsdaydiesel 10 ай бұрын
@@coachgeo yes
@ImpalamansGarage 4 жыл бұрын
I get 25 mpg on the hwy at interstate speeds with the AC on. If I install one of these upgraded pumps, what effect will it have on mileage?
@doomsdaydiesel 4 жыл бұрын
Negligible. It may vary +/- 1mpg if you keep your foot out of it.
@ImpalamansGarage 4 жыл бұрын
@@doomsdaydiesel I appreciate your responsiveness to comments and questions.
@inphiknit Жыл бұрын
How to make new fuel lines 23:17
@cerwin21 2 жыл бұрын
I changed out my rack dampening bolt and about a 1/4 quart of oil came out. Should I refill pump itselg or does it feed oil from the engine oil system? 83' 300sd
@doomsdaydiesel 2 жыл бұрын
It fills itself. Priming is just required when it's dry
@cerwin21 2 жыл бұрын
@@doomsdaydiesel thanks man. Thats what I was thinking as it has that black oil feed tube. Just seen the plugs on the side and wasnt sure. Setups running great in my 90 4runner, dont miss that 3.slow at all
@Ajme-kb4os 2 жыл бұрын
Is it really as easy as setting the engine to 24 btdc and pulling the pump? I’m trying to send mine in and don’t wanna mess it up . I am struggling finding the info on these.
@doomsdaydiesel 2 жыл бұрын
Yup
@Ajme-kb4os 2 жыл бұрын
@@doomsdaydiesel ok great, I was getting mixed up with a locking pin and what others were doing but it seems that was with the m pump.
@sugarmoonlight8582 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 300cd 1982 om617 I need to make a lot of hp. What do I. We’d to make 300hp
@doomsdaydiesel 3 жыл бұрын
Get in touch with dieselmeken
@ILivethepositiveway 3 жыл бұрын
why not just use rubber fuel line and hose clamps, instead of cohline?
@doomsdaydiesel 3 жыл бұрын
The life of the cohline line is much longer. And I'm guessing the pressure rating of the cohline is higher. It's certainly less prone to leaking.
@ILivethepositiveway 3 жыл бұрын
makes sense. the ones on my engine are old as dirt an still sealed up, they're just ugly. haha
@ImpalamansGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Why are OM617 swaps popular in the U.S. ?
@randominformation1566 3 жыл бұрын
Not many other options.
@Ajme-kb4os 2 жыл бұрын
No computer, the cars are really cheap to buy as donors right now. Easy to work on. Really simple engine . It’s not a power monster but has good fuel mileage with big tires when compared to a stock gasser. There’s pros and cons to everything though. The valves need to be adjusted every 7k miles. They are fun to tinker on though .
@ImpalamansGarage 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ajme-kb4os So maybe look at my youtube channel and then give me a better answer. Why would anyone put a 120hp engine into a 4x4? Devil's advocate here.
@williamsnyder7439 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the long post....I am getting ready to adjust the timing on my injection pump. I know to adjust the missing tooth with the notch (or top left bolt) on the ip. My question is, can you turn the ip gear any direction, cw or ccw, to line it up with the notch? And i didnt see you use a locking pin to keep the ip from rotating as you put it in the engine, is it not that critical? I also will try to put the engine at 25 btdc and allow adjustment down to 24 if needed, i am using stock pump with about 150k miles on the engine. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Awesome video by the way!
@doomsdaydiesel 3 жыл бұрын
Set it at 26. You'll be much happier. Drip tool is for those wanting to adjust the pump without removing it. So I've never purchased the pin since a lot of the pumps I adjust don't come off.
@williamsnyder7439 3 жыл бұрын
I had my engine looked at by a diesel shop and they said my timing was at 7 btdc and that i had to take the pump off to correct it. So after the engine is set to where you want it, its as simple as turning the ip gear to line up with the notch (does it matter if you rotate it clockwise or counterclockwise? ) then trying to put the ip in the center of the adjustment area without turning the ip gear? Is there anything else critical to watch out for?
@doomsdaydiesel 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamsnyder7439 if it slides in and you don't have to rotate it to slide it in, it should be set
@williamsnyder7439 3 жыл бұрын
One last question...maybe haha. How does the ip work? Meaning how does it know which cylinder to deliver fuel to. Does a revolution of the ip gear feed a specific cylinder? Can you adjust the ip gear any direction, clockwise or counterclockwise? Can i turn the engine to 26° btdc then remove the ip, align the ip gear properly then reinstall it having kept the engine at 26° ?
@doomsdaydiesel 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamsnyder7439 you'd be better off talking to Dieselmeken with tech questions. I don't build pumps.
@MrMattyV 4 жыл бұрын
What diameters do we need for the COHLINE lines?
@doomsdaydiesel 4 жыл бұрын
I believe 4mm for the oil and 6mm for the rest (ID)
@davemunoz7732 2 жыл бұрын
I would like 175 HP and the ability to outrun a semi truck in Arizona
@mikedeyoung7219 2 ай бұрын
I like his hair. If he had long hair he would look like a 👧
@rayjones463 21 күн бұрын
the tranny module you speak of is it electronic or vacum or what....im going to look at a 617 turbo in the morning but i have no ideal what year it is.....
@doomsdaydiesel 21 күн бұрын
@@rayjones463 vacuum
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