master G I totally agree! And I’m exactly the same way I usually go for blue because I wear a ton of blue but the black was a no brainer here it’s so much more timeless!

Josh James Hi, did you actually get hands on with the new seamaster?? I cant find an AD here in the UK that has any untill october, i felt the same as you about the wave pattern at first, but its grown on me, i need to see it in person to know for sure, be interested on your thoughts.

Edward Allars Hi! Sorry for the delay in my response. I did see it at an Omega boutique when I was traveling! It’s really nice but it’s not for me. The waves on the face are a real dealbreaker no matter how good the movement and the other additional changes. There’s something that’s so much more timeless about this one than the new one. Also, the new one is substantially larger even though there’s only a 1 or 1.5mm difference. The 41mm case width is perfect for me. Anything larger is just too large and heavy on my wrist. It’s a great watch though and if it appeals to you I would definitely not hesitate on purchasing!

Matt Musial I’m with you 100% on all of the above and I hope you have a wonderful time at the boutique! I really think it’s the way to go. There were a bunch of crappy comments about why I would waste my money on this when the new one just came out. And for me, the wave pattern and the size increase were dealbreakers. Congrats and hope you love it!

CheeseDiary thank you so much! I am so sorry about the delayed response, I saw your comment right away and thought I responded then. I hope you’re loving every day with your new Seamaster!

Hi Paul! Totally agree. I went in looking at both the 36.5 and the 41 -- the 41 is ever so slightly large on my wrist but the 36 was just way too small. Really happy with it, hope you're enjoying yours!!!

Stephanie Marie Thanks!!!! I’m so stoked. I still need to find a good Shinola too!

johnpaavo Congratulations, John!!! SO excited for you. It’s a fantastic watch, mine hasn’t left my wrist since I got it. If you’re into NATO straps they make a really nice white and blue nato that matches your watch PERFECTLY.

Shipmate its a fantastic watch! If you see it for under $4,000 here in the US, do some research into its pedigree to make sure you’re still getting the Omega warranty and not a grey market piece - just because of required servicing in the future.

Grey Market still provides it with an official Omega certification card and number (same red card you have in your box). You also get a 2-yrs warranty through Assurion, which is a great warranty company... used them before with an item I bought at the Navy Exchange (NEX). You can buy this watch in the grey market for ~$2800 USD.

Shipmate wow you got a really great price on it! I didn’t mean any judgment or untoward sentiment - I think it’s a great piece regardless of where you got it! Totally fine if you don’t want to answer but could I ask where you purchased yours? A few friends have asked about it but don’t want to pay retail like I did, and are aware of the differences between GM and AD.

I haven't purchased the Seamaster yet. Plan to next month. But I did buy my Speedmaster through the grey market... would definitely recommend it.

@@shipmate3577 Note: This vague reply does not answer OPs question. "Grey market," doesn't tell him where does it? BSer

Alan Giles Congrats! I bought mine just shy of 25 so we’re definitely in the same boat! And like you I had my eye on both - I bought mine after the new one was announced, which as I’m sure you can see in the other comments didn’t make sense to some. But while the movement of the newer one is definitely superior The waves on the face are/were a dealbreaker for me. I just didn’t think it was as timeless and I don’t regret my decision one bit! I’m about a year in (to the day) and am planning to do a 1-year follow up video so stay tuned for that!!!

Yeah the new waves just arent as nice as the original waves. The real deal breaker for me at the moment though is the new HE valve design. And the size. If i'm totally honest the only thing the keeps me coming back is the new movement which is an insane upgrade. If they done the new one in a smaller, sleeker size. Then i'd be all over it.

I bought mine after seeing the new version from Baselworld. Personally I prefer this one over the new one. I don't like the decorated dial -- that was the dealbreaker for me. I would look down at it every day and be annoyed by it. I'm also not 100% sure but I don''t think the 8800 cal is a direct replacement for this model, this one will slot in below it in price. You could probably sell the one you picked up and invest in the newer one if you do end up regretting your decision, though!

Josh James I completely agree with you! The new SMP at Basel 2018 is so ugly! The dial looks so busy, it almost looks tacky! The watch has gained an mm on the case size, and about the same for thickness . I believe it just wears larger than this model. As far as the cal 8800 is concerned, it’s a beautiful movement, but is it really that much better than the 2500? I don’t know . They’ve crammed in that movement into everything now . The overall improvement is too minor to warrant a serious consideration . But that caseback is something I might still want .. Also thanks for the reassurance ! I feel I have others who agree with me and my purchase was a good one.! What other watches do you have in your collection? I’m looking at getting a Datejust 41, fluted bezel, blue dial, jubilee bracelet next !

Exactly. I could get onboard with the waves if it was on something like a Tissot diver or a Rado or something else from the Swatch family but not an Omega. I'm personally also more of a fan of the seahorse and waves on this model. And that's a really good point about it wearing larger, I didn't notice that in the press release but at least for me, 42mm is pushing it on my wrist. The 41 in this video is about as big as I can go before it's too large in proportion. And as for the movement, in my life and wear of the watch, I'm NEVER going to see a realistic benefit between the 2500 Chronometer and the 8800 MAAASSSSTEERRRR Chronometer, you know? So I'm perfectly happy with it. Anyone who says otherwise has too much time on their hands to watch how quickly the seconds go by on their watch. This is actually my first high-end watch. I've got a bunch of more affordable watches that I love just as much, but this is the first watch that's in the real "high-end" watch realm. BUT, like you, my next will also be a Datejust 41 with the fluted bezel and jubilee bracelet, I'm on the fence about color, I feel like i can't pull off the silver/gold combo so I'll probably just go with the white gold and I'm really digging the anthracite/titanium grey face. I didn't like it until I went into the Rolex boutique and saw it in person. I also want the Seamaster that the Bond Spectre watch is based on, but I want the vintage model from the sixties. Saw one in great condition on Tourneau's site but it had sold by the time I went back to buy.

Josh James I’ve done some extensive research on getting my first Rolex .. here are a few things that will come in handy- 1) prices are negotiable up to 10% (call it a price reconsideration and not a discount aka fancy wording) for most Rolexes ! Unless your AD is being a pricy prick . 2) Datejust 41 wears like a 40 and has a lug length of 47mm end to end with a 21mm lug width, so if you put it on leather, make sure it’s a high quality Hirsch strap, as it looks beautiful on hand even on smaller wrists . Mine is 6.4 inches . 3) its easier to pull off the rose gold and silver combo as it’s less jarring to the eye and looks far classier than regular gold in real life . 4) I personally prefer batons as they’re more useful as they have lume . It’s worth getting one Rolex with lume, and your first one can definitely be the one ! 5) Silver is like a sunburst white and “rhodium” is a darker silver, which actually looks silver . Ofcourse it’s different if you want a blue like me, but consider the lighter silver as well, if you want a supremely versatile time piece you can wear with leather and a bracelet. If TT then yellow gets champagne and Rose gold gets Matt white 6) Try Try Try! Take millions of pictures , come back again and again to your AD, and don’t settle for anything less than what you dreamt of. No Rolex is a bad buy. It’s a purchase of a lifetime to be passed down, and not flipped ! Make sure it stands out and you’re in love with the piece . It should come at you and tug at your heart strings . I’m not a bond fan. I understand your fascination with the particular one you have in mind though. Have you ever considered a Nomos for a dress watch ? Orion or the Tangente ? Lovely lovely time pieces, perfectly sized, great movements, decently priced for sure !

Arman Talwar Thanks so much for all the info!!! And TRUST ME, I’ve done the try try try. To the irritation of MANY Rolex SA’s I’m sure. Hahahaha. But yeah that’s been my holy grail watch for as long as I can remember. That’s my “I’ve made it” watch. 😜😜 And yeah absolutely - my plan for the Rolex is to make it a trip to get it in Switzerland. If you buy there in cash you can often get way more than 10% off. I was initially going to do that with this Omega but it wasn’t expensive enough to warrant that. But for the Rolex I want every discount I can get and would love to not pay tax. I’m eyeing a new car in the next few years and will probably do overseas delivery again and it would be amazing if I could line those two purchases up together and have the airfare paid by the automaker. 😜😜 Meanwhile yeah you know I’m not a Bond fan either, which is kind of why I want the vintage version from long before it ever appeared in a Bond movie. The design is classic but I’m not into it when watch makers reissue things. If I’m going to have something vintage-looking why not have the actual vintage.

Fahad Fitness Thank you so much for saying so. I know there are other opinions out there, and they’re not wrong. But I really do prefer to buy direct from the boutique.

Usman Hasan I absolutely agree with you. For me, the cost of the item wasn’t an issue. It’s just that this was/is my first true high-end watch and buying from the boutique was special for me because I’ve worked for the high end brands selling watches to put myself through college. So for me it was sort of finally being on the other side of the counter. That being said - as I build my collection there will definitely be vintage, pre-owned, and grey market pieces in my future. I hope you enjoy yours immensely and thanks SOOOO much for taking the time to watch my video and comment, it really does mean so much to me that you did. :)

Josh James I can understand that. Good luck with your channel and enjoy the SMPc!

Reginald Bejerano Hi Reginald! Thanks so much for writing and watching, I ALWAYS make the time to reply. I just feel like if someone takes the time to watch and write me I owe it to you to reply. In regard to your question, unfortunately I’m afraid I don’t have a great answer. With the exception of the NATO strap, everything that came with the watch is what comes with it new. For the bracelet, you can call the Omega parts department and order a new bracelet. I know they sell replacement parts. You may be able to just get the links you’re looking for. If you bought yours new last year, you might want to go into Omega if you have a boutique near to you and see if they can give them to you, as I don’t think anything has changed from last year to this year. As far as NATOs go, take a look at the video I posted yesterday, I go into detail on NATO straps because a lot of people had questions on them. I like my Omega NATO but I don’t think I’d pay for it. I really like NATO straps from a company called Blu Shark and in the follow up video to this one I compare them side by side. Thanks again!

+Josh James Thanks much for the quick reply, unfortunately the boutique I purchased my Omega SMP is taking sometime with regard to the Micro Adjustment clasp, I ordered from them last Feb. 2018 and till now it's no where near my grasp. As regards the NATO straps, the boutique has none. I made some researches and the price ranges from $160 to $180. Will check out the store you gave here. Thanks much again.

Reginald Bejerano Wow I’m sorry that you’re going through that, that’s terrible that it’s been months and no follow up. I would recommend that you contact another boutique. Since you bought new from a boutique, you should be in their system. I bought mine from the San Antonio boutique, ask for their associate manager or store manager and explain your issue. I have nothing but good things to say about the staff there. I honestly don’t even live there but I drive from Austin because they’re that great. Hope this helps!

+Josh James Yeah, I actually did that just last week, I asked help from a friend to check out if an Omega boutique is available where she works, there is and hoping a positive outcome anytime this month. Thanks much again!

1911nutt Hi! Sorry for the delay in response, KZfaq doesn’t always tell me when a new comment gets posted (or I might just be missing it). Anyway, yes absolutely!!! It’s crazy how much attention to detail was put into the presentation of what realistically is a relatively affordable watch!!! Congrats on yours as well I really had to think about the color because I wear mostly blue! The boutique had both too. If I’d had the money I would have bought both in a heartbeat! Hahaha!

Hi Simon! Thanks for subscribing, welcome aboard! More than happy to do a movement video, I'll try to get around to it -- but to make sure I address what you're interested in, are you specifically interested in the Co-Axial movement or automatic movements in general?

Josh James - I am interested in the new Omega Seamaster 300 with the 8800 cal.

Li Wynn Hi there! Unfortunately I’m not sure I can help here - I had mine fully prepped and delivered at the boutique so I think they may have done that for me. Hopefully someone else can help out here!

Ashton Kee Just my personal opinion but I think the new one is really nice but the face kills it for me with the wave texture - I actually bought mine after seeing the new one for fear that it may be discontinued, and I’m really happy with it. I think mine is just a little more minimal and timeless. And I’m not obsessed with having the newest and the best just for the sake of having the newest and the best. This watch and the movement inside is more than enough for me!

One more point - I have small wrists and the new one is just a touch larger, and with how my 41mm wears I think the new one would be slightly large on me.

I got the new version but this just looks way more elegant to me. Call me crazy, but I am planning to flip it for the 2017 model.

Josh James I felt I was in a minority of one who prefers the outgoing SM. 🙂

RENE SNIPER Hi. Any 20mm strap will fit the watch - Omega has a really nice leather nato strap for around $350 that I really like.

is there any link of the omega leather strap ?

Kaidan Staskowski Super hard to answer that without specific models in mind. For example I would buy a Seamaster over a Submariner but I’d also have a Datejust over an Omega dress watch any day.

Eric Viola I completely agree. I’m not sure that the new 8800 cal replaces this one (as opposed to supplementing the SMP with a higher-end model with the sapphire caseback and new movement) but I’ll still have this one over it any day. The waves on the face is a dealbreaker for me.

Josh James The model featured in this video, but w/ the master co-axial in house movement in the new model would be the best. I'm waiting patiently for something like that.

Bullshit.... Once you try the new one ... You will see how much better it looks and feels... And it is superior in the build quality.... The new is a must for any serous seamaster buyer..... A work of art that lifts it away from the tired old look

Th new one needs to be seen in person to appreciate it. It’s awesome. Bracelet is much nicer.

Fahad Fitness Hi there! I paid retail on it which is $4,400 USD and then tax where I live is 8.25% so around $4,700 all in. :)

@@joshswatches So if I have an AD that can get 20% off on this watch, that is a good deal to not pass up?

zackow2 This is the previous generation (pre-2018) 41mm.

babak jamali Priced at $4,400 USD in the boutique. With tax, I paid $4,650 I think.

Got my seamaster (exactly like yours - Black/ceramic/2500D) a couple of days ago for $1500! Pre-owned but bought from a collector who hardly (probably never) wore it as it still had the plastic film on the case back and latch - so practically new. No scratches/marks whatsoever. With the wooden box and warranty/spec cards, travel pouch etc. Took it to the AD where he purchased it from for verification and it all checks out fine. Cant believe my luck! Enjoy your piece dude!

jamesccart She was very attractive and very intelligent and my partner John and I discussed her then-upcoming honeymoon with her new wife over champagne while the watch was being sized!

@@joshswatches ???? Strange things.