On Analogy and narcissism

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Ryan's Science

22 күн бұрын

While I was reading Foucault I discovered this interesting connection between Analogy and narcissism. So here it is.

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@alexzicker
@alexzicker 20 күн бұрын
God is to you like your father is to you. Thoughts are like birds.
@Ryans_Science
@Ryans_Science 20 күн бұрын
my father died when I was 14, but in spirit i agree
@SuLLyDiGi7aL
@SuLLyDiGi7aL 20 күн бұрын
Nice to see you didn't end the channel. I'm a big fan of Foucault!
@Ryans_Science
@Ryans_Science 20 күн бұрын
thanks. Yea, sometimes its hard defending Foucault, but his insights are too clear to deny imo
@BreezeTalk
@BreezeTalk 20 күн бұрын
It is good for me to see that you are back. I am happy to listen to you.
@Ryans_Science
@Ryans_Science 19 күн бұрын
hey thanks, appreciate it greatly :)
@TheSagemeister
@TheSagemeister 11 күн бұрын
Yes! It’s people internalising objects.. giving people a sense of entitlement
@Ryans_Science
@Ryans_Science 11 күн бұрын
interesting. i remember entitlement being a thing in Christopher Lasch's book as well
@TheSagemeister
@TheSagemeister 11 күн бұрын
@@Ryans_Science it’s the false self. When object relations fails in drastic ways. The child compensates by creating a “false self” eventually it gets larger than the true self. Swallowing the true self and now becoming pathological. It’s here they create the image that regulates the inner child (hidden, never to be seen again. Unless revealed) this superiority creates a grandiose and entitled world view within themselves. In this type of child’s world view. It owns everything, therefore can control to his liking or discard. Due to the object relations failure, is a state of introject permanency & a lack of object constancy. So the external is replaceable & the internal is permanent. Such a fascinating area of psychological complexity. You should check out Allan Schore: The development of the right brain over a life span. YT page is Per Christian Dahl Barn 2017. Absolutely mind blowing stuff!
@nand3kudasai
@nand3kudasai 17 күн бұрын
"good and short, two times good" (as ppl say in argentina) interesthing though, thanks for sharing.
@Ryans_Science
@Ryans_Science 17 күн бұрын
haha thanks, I was worried I spent too much time giving examples that I might've lost many people by the end (which in my opinion was where the important part happened)🙂
@SuLLyDiGi7aL
@SuLLyDiGi7aL 20 күн бұрын
Check out Umberto Eco and his ideas if you haven't. Feel like you'd like him.
@Ryans_Science
@Ryans_Science 20 күн бұрын
cool. I've never checked him out, but i see his books everywhere. I definitely will look into them now that you've recommended him
@TheSagemeister
@TheSagemeister 20 күн бұрын
Yep. It’s a cult of 1!
@Ryans_Science
@Ryans_Science 20 күн бұрын
interesting how that works, you would think one would get lonely or something...
@TheSagemeister
@TheSagemeister 20 күн бұрын
@@Ryans_Science narcissistic libido… self supply. 🤯
@TheSagemeister
@TheSagemeister 19 күн бұрын
@@Ryans_Science “narcissistic libido” they can self supply. They can manipulate people to gain both “narcissistic & sadistic supply”.. be that at work, through friends and family etc. The “shared” fantasy is used with anyone they want to invite into it. This is where the 4 S’s come in. The economy of the narcissist. Sex, Supply (N or S), Services (gifts, nights out, money, any type of gain) & safety (a place to be themselves & be passive aggressive etc and get away with it) that’s all they’re looking for.. very predatory behaviours 🤯
@jacobscrackers98
@jacobscrackers98 18 күн бұрын
But what if the analogy is actually false? Is it still narcissism then?
@Ryans_Science
@Ryans_Science 18 күн бұрын
the analogy cannot be false unless the thing is not human. I am to my emotions as you are to yours. We all stand in the same relation as humans towards our own emotions. It would only be false if one added my emotions "towards" x are as your emotions are "towards" x or y, maybe that's what you were thinking of idk
@jacobscrackers98
@jacobscrackers98 18 күн бұрын
@@Ryans_Science I thought you were saying that any denial of an analogy was narcissism.
@Ryans_Science
@Ryans_Science 18 күн бұрын
@@jacobscrackers98 o sorry, maybe i didnt make it clear. I meant only, a denial of the analogy of me to my possessions is to you and your possession, of which I considered feelings to be a kind of possession. Kind of like how celebrities are kind of presented to us as being of a different breed. that kind of thing
@jacobscrackers98
@jacobscrackers98 14 күн бұрын
@@Ryans_Science Okay. That makes sense now.
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