On Writing: how to foreshadow [Stranger Things l LotR l Harry Potter l Game of Thrones]

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Hello Future Me

Hello Future Me

6 жыл бұрын

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@HelloFutureMe
@HelloFutureMe 6 жыл бұрын
Hey everyone! This video was hell to write, but I got there in the end, QotD: how did YOU foreshadow something creatively? Let me know down below. GET ON WRITING AND WORLDBUILDING VOL II (the book with ALL the discussions we've had + tons of extra depth and detail) I linktr.ee/timhickson Stay nerdy! TIm
@shapecrafterstudios
@shapecrafterstudios 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Future Me Foreshadowing has never been my strong suit. It's always just appeared as "good writing" to me. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I can't identify it very well... unless it's a marval movie, then I can identify it.
@Sinsystems
@Sinsystems 6 жыл бұрын
Well I'm still in the planning stages of a Modern Fantasy story I want to one day right. But basically I plan on introducing about 4 main characters to form my main cast at the beginning of the story, only with one of them getting murdered at the beginning of act 2 as the main impetus for events of the narrative. I plan on foreshadowing this by first having an early scene where the main character is eating breakfast while watching the morning news, which will include a brief description of a serial killer on the loose mixed in with a bunch of other problems like protests, economic issues and the like. Then throughout act 1 I plan on having what is essentially a clock ticking down. With things like the characters agree to meet at 6, one of them being 5 minutes late and so on. Then once the subtle clock hits zero (probably with a character remarking how they are out of time to finish something) the murder will occur thus kicking off the main plot.
@cmgriffith
@cmgriffith 6 жыл бұрын
I'd love a video on Deus ex Machina.
@marnunnvaldr8620
@marnunnvaldr8620 6 жыл бұрын
I sometimes used prophecies as a way to foreshadow events in the pen and paper adventures I wrote. These prophecies would normally be about the 'main storyline' of the world in which the pen and paper takes place. Certain entities or factions would be represented by symbols/animals etc. It was fun creating them like little riddles so that the players could figure out what they meant after they spent enough time and gained the right informations, without being too much of a spoiler. After that I started writing short stories about various events taking place in far away parts of the world so I could create a more lively environment and a different kind of foreshadowing. These story would lack important parts like the name of the place at which they happened and who exactly their protagonist's were. So the players only knew that, for example a rebellion was happening somewhere. PS: I found your channel when I started writing my first book. Thanks for the inspiration through videos like these. I love the On Writing and Elder Scrolls series. Hope you keep up the excellent work. Greetings from germany :)
@williamherring1201
@williamherring1201 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Future Me Thanks for all the great content, I have my exams coming up so these are amazing for revision.
@vicenteortegarubilar9418
@vicenteortegarubilar9418 6 жыл бұрын
I hope nothing happens to Anakin's leg and arm.
@Poisonedblade
@Poisonedblade 6 жыл бұрын
If he stays on the high ground, he should be fine.
@whosaidthat84
@whosaidthat84 4 жыл бұрын
If something does happen, I blame sand.
@ladytalksalot4097
@ladytalksalot4097 3 жыл бұрын
Clearly a red herring.
@shirshobanerjee7751
@shirshobanerjee7751 3 жыл бұрын
“I swear Anakin, one of these days you’re going to be the death of me” - Obi-wan Kenobi
@totallynameless8861
@totallynameless8861 Жыл бұрын
But who cares about the rest of him. I doubt it's important.
@youtubeuniversity3638
@youtubeuniversity3638 6 жыл бұрын
Imagine a story where it's made clear early that A Wizard Did It... but the plot is figuring out which one and why.
@HelloFutureMe
@HelloFutureMe 6 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a Terry Pratchett novel. ~ Tim
@youtubeuniversity3638
@youtubeuniversity3638 6 жыл бұрын
I might have to look more into that soon.
@rodrickhatton3664
@rodrickhatton3664 6 жыл бұрын
...Sorcery!
@smeagolpotato9865
@smeagolpotato9865 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds like half of the Dresden Files books
@edwardness7497
@edwardness7497 6 жыл бұрын
could argue that's human existence, it was all god... but we're figuring out science :)
@sarasamaletdin4574
@sarasamaletdin4574 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of people misunderstand Chekov’s guns as if you have a gun introduced you must fire it, when it is about if you are planning using a gun you should introduce it first. It is theatre prop advice. So people often criticize works based on speculations not happening when some introduced elements are not used. But that is a different issue.
@eugenideddis
@eugenideddis 6 жыл бұрын
Having unused elements is especially great for a mystery, as it can hint one character did it, but in truth being so innocuous as to not even be pointed out later.
@emilromin9863
@emilromin9863 6 жыл бұрын
It can still feel unsatisfying when an element introduced is not used. Or if a mystery has only red herrings and no clues.
@HelloFutureMe
@HelloFutureMe 6 жыл бұрын
Right on point. ~ Tim
@AscendantStoic
@AscendantStoic 6 жыл бұрын
It could work both ways, but intentionally introducing an item or a character who turn out not to be important at all i think is a case of a red herring, meant to divert the readers attention away from the real important item/characrer (which are also introduced early on but maybe not given as much attention as the red herring).
@christinew1644
@christinew1644 6 жыл бұрын
Yes! This is so true. It's not about using what you've established, it's about establishing what you're going to use.
@VoidicHerald
@VoidicHerald 6 жыл бұрын
Tim, you cause me great anguish. I have many a time intended to cry "a wizard did it!" or "hail Mishka!" only to be interrupted by visions of my friends perplexed reactions. Please become mainstream so I don't feel alone
@The_Rising_Dragon
@The_Rising_Dragon 6 жыл бұрын
+
@AnoopVargheese
@AnoopVargheese 6 жыл бұрын
HAIL MISHKA!
@mateusmartinsjunior6506
@mateusmartinsjunior6506 5 жыл бұрын
ALL HAIL MISHKA
@fullmetaltheorist
@fullmetaltheorist 3 жыл бұрын
A wizard did it!!!
@youtubeuniversity3638
@youtubeuniversity3638 6 жыл бұрын
"Putin arriving with an army of bears" sounds like it has repetition potential.
@theblancmange1265
@theblancmange1265 5 жыл бұрын
Red Alert 3 has soviet bear paratroopers.
@ggcalyx3565
@ggcalyx3565 6 жыл бұрын
Have to smile every time "A WIZARD DID IT!" appears :'D
@williamreturner3001
@williamreturner3001 6 жыл бұрын
I can't get enough of Gandalf Jazz.
@joelharrison4654
@joelharrison4654 5 жыл бұрын
1 hour version perhaps someone?
@theboxygenie
@theboxygenie Жыл бұрын
@@joelharrison4654 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bNGkodV8rJ7ZoWg.html
@terragthegreat175
@terragthegreat175 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck, dude, I never realized the 'peace in our time' quote was a WW2 thing. Steve must've known the reference, having grown up in the '30s and fought in the war, so that totally adds to why he's distrustful of Tony's actions. He's seen what the 'peace in our time' mentality has led to.
@the_senate8050
@the_senate8050 Жыл бұрын
F*ck appeasement, all my Czechoslovak homies hate appeasement.
@leeking6939
@leeking6939 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention all the trauma he had to go through in winter soldier. Its normal he didn't want to trust anyone
@DarkMaguini
@DarkMaguini 6 жыл бұрын
I swear your "A WIZARD DID IT" joke gets me every time, even when I'm expecting it it makes me laugh XD Love watching these sorts of videos, you're very interesting and entertaining to listen to!
@antonartemenko2927
@antonartemenko2927 6 жыл бұрын
Chekhov's name is Anton. Pavlovitch is patronymic, meaning his father's name is Pavel.
@johannageisel5390
@johannageisel5390 5 жыл бұрын
So you're telling me... He's the son of Pavel Chekhov? Ensign on the Enterprise under Captain Kirk?
@user-eo1qe7ob3y
@user-eo1qe7ob3y 3 жыл бұрын
@@johannageisel5390 well yes, but actually no It is vice-versa i guess
@fakjbf3129
@fakjbf3129 6 жыл бұрын
Tolkien also had a problem with how Shakespeare handled the prophecy of that MacBeth wouldn't be vanquished until Birnham wood would come to Dunsidane castle. In MacBeth a bunch of soldiers tied tree banches to themselves as camouflage. So when Tolkien was writing The Two Towers he had the Ents conquer Isengard as a way to one up the Bard. And when GRRM was writing A Feast for Crows he had one of the characters talk about mythological talking trees, right before a bunch of Northmen wearing tree branches for camouflage ambushed them.
@JC111414
@JC111414 5 жыл бұрын
Fakjbf ...
@samwallaceart288
@samwallaceart288 5 жыл бұрын
So are sentient trees going in and out of hoax-dom officially a literary meme?
@harrisont2004
@harrisont2004 5 жыл бұрын
In fairness I don’t think it would have worked if shakespeare introduced sentient trees 😂
@dusanbanovic5085
@dusanbanovic5085 4 жыл бұрын
There is also the prophecy of "No man can kill me" about Macbeth and the Witch-King. Tolkien also disliked how McDuff was "not born of woman" due to Caesarian section. Tolkien thus had Eowyn and Merry killing his Macbeth.
@np8139
@np8139 4 жыл бұрын
Other playwrights who knew Shakespeare said that he rarely ever edited what he wrote. Writing was a job for him, which is why he released things as quickly as he could. This is also why his plays have so many useless characters and contrivances. In my opinion, he is the most overrated writer of all time.
@Pedro.Soares
@Pedro.Soares 5 жыл бұрын
The dead direwolf at the beginning of GoT can be seen as the "death" of the old generation and the direwolf pups represent the young generations potential.
@thatoneguywhokeepsquestion5997
@thatoneguywhokeepsquestion5997 6 жыл бұрын
*a wizard did it*
@dbrokensoul
@dbrokensoul 6 жыл бұрын
*gandalf appears for one second*
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 6 жыл бұрын
But why?
@lukeskywalkerthe2nd773
@lukeskywalkerthe2nd773 6 жыл бұрын
Foreshadowing is honestly one of my most favorite things in Storytelling! Thanks for this amazing video explaining it, Tim! :)
@SingingSealRiana
@SingingSealRiana 4 жыл бұрын
Spies are Forever has some of the best foreshadowing I have ever seen in my life!!! It plays so geniusly with the watchers tendency to disregard told things as just told for the effect but not ment . . .
@Vekcrazah
@Vekcrazah Жыл бұрын
@@SingingSealRiana i did NOT expect a mention of a starkid affiliated show in this random corner of youtube.
@13KuriMaster
@13KuriMaster 6 жыл бұрын
Let me just say, those have a second tangent screens are brilliant.... they force me to pause and go back in hopes of reading them out of curiosity.... when people do that you KNOW they are interested in what you say.
@Asram5
@Asram5 6 жыл бұрын
*LIFE IS STRANGE SPOILERS AHEAD* A really interesting foreshadowing I like in Life is Strange is during Mr Jefferson's class at the start. He says "I could frame any one of you in a dark corner, and capture you in a moment of desperation," which perfectly sets up what is revealed about him later on. Plus small details like his vulnerable model photos hung around the school, and then later on with his mysterious relationship with Kate.
@redgeoblaze3752
@redgeoblaze3752 6 жыл бұрын
Can someone help me find my jaw? I think I dropped it.
@kukuki5000
@kukuki5000 4 жыл бұрын
I like how Chloe's disability was foreshadowed by her car parked on 2 parking spots for disabled people and her trying to steal money from disabled fund. Serves her right.
@assassintwinat8
@assassintwinat8 4 жыл бұрын
I really like that line particularly because not only is it foreshadowing what Jefferson does to Max (and did to others), it's Jefferson _bragging._ Though technically not one, Jefferson acts like a text-book serial killer. He's charming, charismatic, hypnotic, and arrogant. He has victims, he has a "type" (victimology), he has a modus operandi, and most importantly, he has trophies. Heck, he even had a protege.
@justafaniv1097
@justafaniv1097 6 жыл бұрын
I was really hoping for a Russian themed twist at the end! You set it up so well with the offhand prophecy of dying watching Russian propaganda and the theme returning with Putin riding his bear army.
@johannageisel5390
@johannageisel5390 5 жыл бұрын
Anton Chekhov was russian too!
@johannageisel5390
@johannageisel5390 5 жыл бұрын
But: It wasn't Russian propaganda, it was communist propaganda.
@deahalis7933
@deahalis7933 3 жыл бұрын
talk about set-up and no payoff ... jk, tim is awesome
@VersusThem
@VersusThem 2 жыл бұрын
The twist is happening right now
@assassintwinat8
@assassintwinat8 4 жыл бұрын
Probably my favorite instance of foreshadowing I've ever read was in _Fever 1793._ It's extremely subtle, since not only does it happen in the first two pages of the book, it's never explained in the story itself. The story begins right away with the main character-- Mattie, a teenage girl living in Washington-era Philadelphia-- being rudely woken up by a mosquito buzzing around her and hitting her head when she jumps from it biting her. Special attention is given to this in the line: "I sat back down, wide awake now, my noggin sporting two lumps-- one from the ceiling, one from the mosquito." The bite is significant, of course, because yellow fever is/was spread by mosquitoes, and Mattie contracted yellow fever and nearly died. It's brilliantly subtle, however, because at no point in the story is it _explained_ that yellow fever was spread through mosquitoes. Everyone thought it was spread through the air or from drinking bad water. At no point in the story is there a breakthrough discovery of how or why someone gets yellow fever; the breakthrough is simply that fevers broke and the epidemic ended when the frost arrived. Nowhere is the cause of yellow fever given until the very last pages of the book, and in the appendix rather than the book itself. Without outside knowledge of how yellow fever is contracted before reading the book, the reader gets a good sense of the same mystery and panic as many characters in the book, since no one knew where this epidemic was coming from, how people were catching it, why it was happening, and especially not how to treat it. Anyone could get sick-- parents, doctors, even small children-- and die from it at any time. And if you _do_ know how yellow fever spreads before reading the book and _do_ notice and remember Mattie's mosquito bite in the very beginning, it still gives you an immense amount of tension because, despite caring for sick family members throughout the entire book, Mattie is one of the last people to get sick. You'll spend the whole book waiting for Mattie to get sick, and in that time, you watch countless others around her get sick and die, not only increasing the impact but upping the stakes. Though maybe I just have good memories of this particular piece of foreshadowing, since I was the only one to ever notice or point it out to my 8th grade English teacher after she'd been doing lessons on this book for years and got a whole lotta praise for it.
@herrnein4164
@herrnein4164 6 жыл бұрын
"Putin arriving with an army of bears." This sounds like the single best idea for the macguffin final battle ending. Someone do this.
@jellybeanzilla4971
@jellybeanzilla4971 5 жыл бұрын
Dude I just found your channel and I cannot even begin to tell you how helpful this is for me to flesh out my ideas. I have many ideas and putting them together in words rather than visuals is a struggle, but you are informative and well spoken. I very much appreciate everything you have put out so far and cannot wait for more. Also, "A wizard did it" is my new life motto Thank you
@moopara7991
@moopara7991 6 жыл бұрын
A smal critic I have.. is that the author's name is Anton Pavlovich Chekov.. or just Anton Chekov. Pavlovich means he's the son of Pavel. Aside from that, it really bothers me whenever I see a writer or a film takes the time to show a trope or let's say a tool or weapon that can solve the conflict. Then ignores it.
@omegagilgamesh
@omegagilgamesh 6 жыл бұрын
"And lo and behold, the next episode: *Fish Giant Karate-Chop!!!*" That was hilarious, maybe more for me than many others, because I studied traditional Chinese Kung Fu for many years, and we had several inside jokes about us secretly being a Ninja school and others involving Karate-chops.
@Poisonedblade
@Poisonedblade 6 жыл бұрын
"You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain." This line is more about... (Spoiler Alert!) Batman. At the end of the movie he is framed for crimes he didn't commit, so he willingly becomes the common enemy of Gotham in order to unite its people.
@Entertekken
@Entertekken 5 жыл бұрын
Well, it also relates to Harvey Dent, since, due to Batman saving his life, he ends up becoming the villain. Then later he dies and becomes a hero in the eyes of the people. The quote actually sets up a pretty cool duality that surrounds the two heroes.
@shadenox8164
@shadenox8164 5 жыл бұрын
It can be two things.
@ImOutsideTheBox
@ImOutsideTheBox 5 жыл бұрын
@@Entertekken Harvey became a villain within himself, Batman became a villain publicly, the phrase applies to both.
@Fionixx1
@Fionixx1 5 жыл бұрын
It's a beautiful play on words...foreshadowing both and at the same time illustrating both ways that may happen--an internal shift a la Dent and an external shift in which you 'see yourself' becoming the villain (in the eyes of others) but are not actually the villain--the perfect motif to embody the theme of 'two face'/two sides of the same coin.
@karenstrong6734
@karenstrong6734 4 жыл бұрын
I actually love that quote in that movie, because it kind of ironically foreshadow of Harvey dent’s descent into villainy.
@sleepycryptid8275
@sleepycryptid8275 3 жыл бұрын
I remember listening to Johnny Sims talked about how he didn't like Chekhov's gun as a requirement. From what I remember, he said something along the lines of "If you don't use the gun, how it's described can describe the character that owns that gun. Is it a new hunting rifle? A pistol?" And I like that idea. Environment of a character can foreshadow something in a way similar to Chekhov's gun. Idk, just a neat little thing I remembered.
@crumpscrumbs
@crumpscrumbs Жыл бұрын
That feels more like a “No shit Sherlock” fact. A character’s possessions describe who they are. Well, duh. Forget fiction, you could probably get a very good idea of a total stranger’s character by looking at their room.
@natetso3307
@natetso3307 6 жыл бұрын
I write a lot, but it’s more cooperative fanfiction with some other people than actual, structured story so I haven’t really foreshadowed ever
@rmsgrey
@rmsgrey 6 жыл бұрын
You can still foreshadow in a co-op fic - you just have to be prepared for it to not go where you expected. Foreshadowing in a first draft is always tentative and/or conditional - it's one of those things that's much easier to get right in a rewrite/edit pass.
@natetso3307
@natetso3307 6 жыл бұрын
I’m aware that it’s possible, I just mean that I’ve never really tried to implement it simply because the story is so chaotic it’s almost impossible to predict anything. It’s more fun that way too
@caesurios949
@caesurios949 6 жыл бұрын
...whether it be tonal shifts, plot twists, THE ULTIMATE CHANGE CHANGES, or climatic resultions.
@nirast2561
@nirast2561 6 жыл бұрын
yeah, i saw that too
@zachryder3150
@zachryder3150 6 жыл бұрын
A great example of foreshadowing is in Fantastic Four where Doom says humanity should go extinct and later when he gets his powers he uses them to end the human race... That is what I call "Fantastic Fourshadowing" okay I'll go now.......
@ComissarYarrick
@ComissarYarrick 5 жыл бұрын
This pun is better than the whole movie ^^
@rmsgrey
@rmsgrey 6 жыл бұрын
I can't help feeling there was something Strange about some of the clips in this video. Oh well, I guess that's just how Life Is...
@rmsgrey
@rmsgrey 6 жыл бұрын
Less time than it took to type.
@FaisalKhan-iw6tw
@FaisalKhan-iw6tw 5 жыл бұрын
@rmsgrey maybe but honestly I have seen stranger things
@gabrielleparker4029
@gabrielleparker4029 5 жыл бұрын
I’m writing a story where, in the whole first chapter and half of the second chapter, the aristocratic protagonist is hiding a lower-class boy in his attic until he heals of his wounds. In one scene, I make sure to emphasize the closing of the trapdoor to clue the reader in to the fact that it will be left open for someone to find the attic later.
@crumpscrumbs
@crumpscrumbs Жыл бұрын
That’s the kind of thing a reader can realistically realize on a first watch and say “damn, I hope nobody forgets to close that.”
@TheLPRnetwork
@TheLPRnetwork 6 жыл бұрын
i foreshadow though relationships (Note: i'm writing a military mystery thriller) people's wants, and believes foreshadows their other selves aka the identity of the civilian should closely match the identity of the man behind the gun. The civilian life should impact or influence the war life. and vise versa
@alexmiddleton9390
@alexmiddleton9390 6 жыл бұрын
Mystery and military have never been genres I’ve really been into, but that sounds really intriguing
@casimiriii5941
@casimiriii5941 6 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, are you familiar with Django Wexler's THE THOUSAND NAMES series?
@kyryzard
@kyryzard 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting...
@SingingSealRiana
@SingingSealRiana 4 жыл бұрын
I love symbolism and forshadowing by how people see eachother. Statements directed to someone actualy ment for someone else. Meaningful red herrings, names beeing important.
@edwardvandermeer7455
@edwardvandermeer7455 6 жыл бұрын
One piece (by oda) is otherworldly in foreshadowing
@myrajae6343
@myrajae6343 4 жыл бұрын
Throughout the whole video all I kept thinking how Oda has mastered foreshadowing and subtly dropping details.
@LeBingeDoctor
@LeBingeDoctor 3 жыл бұрын
Perfectly on point. Each aspiring writer should watch your "on writing" videos, they are so great and filled to the brim with vital tips. Thanks a lot, Tim!
@guyclykos
@guyclykos 6 жыл бұрын
I used foreshadowing without knowing it. I'm writing a story about a murderer who comes off at first, to be cold blooded but he saves someone who showed him compassion despite the danger. In the later parts of the story, it's about him struggling between morality and logic. Either to save others despite the risk that poses to his own survival or let them die as planned to survive. (spoilers: He saves them)
@yaqootemankhizar6113
@yaqootemankhizar6113 4 жыл бұрын
Where can I read this story???
@carlost.9233
@carlost.9233 6 жыл бұрын
Hello again, Tim, Great video! Though I’m not a writer, I always enjoy these videos and find them extremely educational. As for a time I used foreshadowing, I don’t have an example from writing, but I do have a rather humorous example of foreshadowing/irony from real life... While applying to colleges, I once joked around with my friends about this one college with the highest suicide rate in the nation that was actually built on top of cliff... I am now attending that college, and I’ve been laughing at myself ever since.
@lilypond5158
@lilypond5158 2 жыл бұрын
For shadowing has got to be the best part about writing, it's so fun to put little clues throughout the story.
@josephburhan6777
@josephburhan6777 5 жыл бұрын
I spent the last 2 days finishing LotR so I could follow your videos more Totally worth it
@sachitechless
@sachitechless 6 жыл бұрын
I've been listening to the prequel novellas to GoT that are set during the Tagarien (IDK how to write that name) rule. I think one of the best foreshadowing dreams was in the first story, where one of the Targariens who is known to have prophetic dreams sees a Dragon slain on top of the main character. There are five Targariens in the story at that point but we are only paying attention to three of them, mainly because two of them are on the main character's side. It makes you realise the more it goes on that something is very wrong that the dream hasn't come through and the payoff is brilliant.
@petervishneski8917
@petervishneski8917 6 жыл бұрын
Writing a fantasy here, and foreshadowing is my favorite tool. I love describing scenes and new places and slipping a totally important item or something used to solve a problem in there for use in later chapters
@kerricaine
@kerricaine 6 жыл бұрын
i'm not sure if this would really count as foreshadowing or just general tension building, but if in a story, you repeatedly have your hero struggle with something, like a particular skill or item, only to have them pull through with using it at the crucial "do or die" moment, that can be really powerful if done right (and not like how every shonen anime seems to use it more like handing out new powerups)
@wildlynervousdaze9243
@wildlynervousdaze9243 6 жыл бұрын
About Harvey Dent's foreshadowing, I think more than a foreshadowing that we were supposed not to know but we knew all the same, it also worked as an easter egg for those who knew what was going to happen to go " I understand that reference". It works as a foreshadowing to people who didn´t know, and as easter egg to those who do. Which is kinda cool.
@professorpankakes889
@professorpankakes889 5 жыл бұрын
Foreshadowing is one of my favorite tools. Like seriously, I love it, and it helps me see an end to a story that I'm writing and gives me motivation to tie the ends together
@DIdirectors
@DIdirectors 6 жыл бұрын
Writing a semi post apocalyptic comic for personal enjoyment and one of my favorite foreshadowing moments was when I first introduced an army earlier on in the first story that didn’t seem that big because that group wasn’t with their main group, but turns out that in the second that there an entire military industrial complex and that their a huge factor in the second comic, another I’ve been enjoying is planting a vauge hint in the first that one character likes the other but not following up on that beat until the third comic
@rasunfrmqns653
@rasunfrmqns653 5 жыл бұрын
I will be most certainly giving you guys credit when my book is done... you put so much that i intrinsically knew into perspective. I now feel more capable of properly structure the work in a more professional manner
@rjeromef939
@rjeromef939 3 ай бұрын
One of my favorite examples of “irregular action” is in Warbreaker, when the normally gruff and blunt Vasher starts talking about the World’s magic system like a scientist (or scholar), foreshadowing that he’s much more than he seems.
@dama2545
@dama2545 2 ай бұрын
I’m writing a prologue in which the protagonist is watching a play. The play is both a Chekhov’s gun and a prophecy, as any play written by the playwright Oracle tends to manifest itself in some way.
@masterofmythology
@masterofmythology 3 жыл бұрын
Rowling did very well in foreshadowing events in later books with a single line, such as "a heavy lidded locket that no one could open" in OOtP, and Dumbledore being described as having a momentary look of victory in GoF after being told Voldemort took Harry's blood.
@TalecraftTavern
@TalecraftTavern 6 жыл бұрын
Anytime I have trouble figuring out how to write anything in any context, this is the channel I come to. There's always a quality video telling me how to foreshadow a fight scene at the end of a chapter that will leave the reader wanting the finale they'll never get because it's a cliff-hanger to be resolved in book two when the chosen one rocks up on the scene 😂😂😂. Seriously though, thanks for all the awesome and thorough analysis and tutorials on some of the best parts of writing! You're the best.
@TheCyberGoblin
@TheCyberGoblin 6 жыл бұрын
Personally, my favourite example of foreshadowing is Lucky Number Slevin. It starts feeling like a parody of crime films but half way through shifts tones just before the plot twist begins to be revealed.
@sevynwarr
@sevynwarr 6 жыл бұрын
Foreshadowing I've used: In a story I wrote, once upon a time, I had a guy watching one army getting wiped out by another, but still keep charging on, even though it was hopeless, and say to himself, "wow, what could possibly possess someone to do that." And then he found himself in a position later on where he had to do that, and busted up laughing over it as he was charging enemy bullets. In that same story I had characters talking about an extra moon that used to be there hundreds of years ago, but disappeared, and no one knew why. It turns out later that the moon was crushed down to the size of an electron to create an artificial black hole, that was, indirectly, the main cause of basically everything in the story.
@whitneysmith9771
@whitneysmith9771 6 жыл бұрын
I love your on writing videos so much. I would LOVE for you to make an on writing video about Christopher Nolan movies/his screenwriting techniques. His movies are so unique and complex that I bet you would have a fun time dissecting them. Memento, Inception, The Prestige, etc... !
@mariefuentes325
@mariefuentes325 6 жыл бұрын
I'm writing a book and until now I couldn't figure out how to foreshadow some important things without being too obvious, so this video was REALLY helpful. Actually, all your On Writing videos have been helping me a lot, I can't thank you enough. I promise that when my book is published you will have an especial section in the acknowledgments. -Greetings from Mexico. Ps. I'm also a great fan of your Avatar TLA and LOK videos. You're amazing.
@Sinsystems
@Sinsystems 6 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video as usual, really explains foreshadowing in a easily digested manner.
@SteampunkTigerlily18
@SteampunkTigerlily18 6 жыл бұрын
Oh yes, I'm glad you mentioned The Prestige. I feel like it's great on all fronts when it comes to foreshadowing, and all in the first 10 minutes (the birds, the hats, the water tank, etc).
@marscaleb
@marscaleb 6 жыл бұрын
I need to like this video three times at least. I've always struggled with foreshadowing. In my writing, in identifying it on other works, and in following it properly. I am very grateful for how you have clearly explained what foreshadowing does to the story.
@TheMusicscotty
@TheMusicscotty 4 жыл бұрын
Tim, love your work, mate!
@KimberlyByrdV
@KimberlyByrdV 5 жыл бұрын
Loving your channel and all of your well spoken, informative, fun content!
@MidnightSt
@MidnightSt 6 жыл бұрын
3:49 the "something much heavier hit the floor" is not only in the sound, but also in how the ring moves/settles down. too quickly, no bounce, almost immediately still. it is a beautiful moment, yes, it's literally the ring weighing at least 10 kilos (and I believe it was not supposed to be just a metaphor, I believe the intention was "the ring literally changed itself to weigh that much, to settle at the precise spot where Bilbo released it, affixed itself to the ground to be there in the case Bilbo's resolve breaks and he returns to get it), and it is one of the most beautiful examples of subtle/invisible/subconscious VFX that I know of, because I damn well bet you it WAS an sfx, and they spent at least 1 manday thinking about how it should look and how to achieve that look. And then 1 to 2 more mandays to actually achieve it, just tweaking values back and forth by fractions (not including making the model for the ring, which they already had because of the previous scenes).
@kitkatcoz
@kitkatcoz Жыл бұрын
Excellent. Great information that's presented well.
@joaomelo7538
@joaomelo7538 6 жыл бұрын
These are the videos that made me subscribe to this channel, you explain writing in an awesome way, I really like how you make it very clear what you are talking about by giving the little summary in the beginning, it makes everything clearer. Keep up the good work
@nahheio
@nahheio 6 жыл бұрын
I love the on writing videos
@Krlytz
@Krlytz 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Your "On writing" series is becoming my favorite :) All hail Mishka!
@allisynhoward217
@allisynhoward217 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! Literally got an idea for what was missing from a scene in my novel half way through this video!
@3rat2catgirl
@3rat2catgirl 6 жыл бұрын
I remember when we were all so excited because you were at 15k. Congrats on 175k!
@saintbellistrad4304
@saintbellistrad4304 5 жыл бұрын
Hello! Love your videos. When it came to foreshadowing especially in the first chapter, I used my main character cleaning their house and chasing lesser spirits out of it, showing the problems magic and strange beings will have in the story to come and how knowledgeable the people are of it. At the same time, I had my protagonist use magic to help cook showing it will also be helpful throughout the rest of the series.
@jillpigott7959
@jillpigott7959 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I stumbled upon this video. It helped me realize why certain plot twists have irritated me in the past, it was because of a lack of foreshadowing - even subtle foreshadowing. First example that comes to mind is Hans turning villain in Frozen, there was zero foreshadowing for that event. In fact, there was what appeared to be foreshadowing of other events that never happened; the picture of an evil troll in the king's book feels like an unfired Chekov gun.
@siljapeters2836
@siljapeters2836 4 жыл бұрын
I feel that the “the bigger the event, the more foreshadowing” actually made a lot of sense. Take the Red Wedding in the ASOIAF books. Man, upon a reread there are soooooo many signs😂
@prawdziwaChAD
@prawdziwaChAD 5 жыл бұрын
We need 'A WIZARD DID IT' on T-shirts.
@phenaxdk5857
@phenaxdk5857 4 жыл бұрын
I dont write or read, but for some reason i am addicted to these videos.
@davidbergfors6820
@davidbergfors6820 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you my wise teacher!
@sarun4ikP
@sarun4ikP 6 жыл бұрын
Anton Chekhov! "Pavlovich" is a patronymic.
@starnutter448
@starnutter448 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, it is honestly better than my entire english lesson on it. 😊
@lucas_h
@lucas_h 3 жыл бұрын
"You kind of left her hanging this morning, you know?" Gotta love DDLC
@Felenari
@Felenari 6 жыл бұрын
Good watch thank you. I've got a few thousand years of story arc planned with some very long lived characters (not elves) and this will be a very fun way to write that I'll need to incorporate.
@NoArtisticLimitation
@NoArtisticLimitation 5 жыл бұрын
Speaking of foreshadowing, I’ve forshadowed a few things in my series. Thus far, very few things have come out, but one such thing that isn’t a major spoiler is where a character makes robotic bugs with stingers. Later on, it’s revealed that the bugs were taking DNA from our heroes in order for the villain to make clones. ... *spoiler ahead.* This is brought up again when you find that another character uses the same method... There’s more on that which would help it make sense, but that would mean a huge exposition dump, and no one wants to read those XD
@StarBoundFables
@StarBoundFables 3 ай бұрын
Awesome video on craft writing advice, cheers! I've recently read your 1st 'On Writing & Worldbuilding' book, & it was great too (highlighted lots, and will take notes soon)
@MidnightSt
@MidnightSt 6 жыл бұрын
oh, those first 18 seconds of this video are flawless. made me literally laugh out loud. nice one :) also the inception hornpunch at the end was a nice touch.
@christinew1644
@christinew1644 6 жыл бұрын
Right now I'm working on a story with a strange cosmology, which I was going to reveal in a prologue, but I changed my mind and instead it's going to be a crazy plot twist near the end. I'm working really hard to foreshadow it hard, but without giving it away. I just hope I can pull it off!
@StepBaum
@StepBaum 6 жыл бұрын
Great video once again, I especially liked the way you broke down every little detail about foreshadowing. I forshadowed by letting a character, unknown, show up and give a throw away line that implies that he knows the capabilities of the MC, aka he bets all his money on him. The MC himself doesn't know that (Writing a vigilante story, that section i mentioned rn is a Fight Club-ish tournament with bets on the participants)
@alexmiddleton9390
@alexmiddleton9390 6 жыл бұрын
I hadn’t actually thought about how I was going to use foreshadowing before, as I’d planned on getting the basic main themeline mapped out before focusing on specific techniques, but my current primary WIP is centred on character encounters, so I’ll try and have some characters cropping up multiple times unexpectedly. Also one of my mc quartet has a brother who doesn’t go on the adventure with them bc he can’t walk and wants to set up a career as a merchant, but I think I’m going to have him crop up somewhere in Act2 to get them out of trouble with the Granite Empire
@mrandisg
@mrandisg 6 жыл бұрын
In my current WIP, my main protagonist has the power to control the natural elements and the weather. In one of the opening scenes of the book, he stops a storm from brewing over an outdoor car show that he and his best friend are attending. This foreshadows the events of the final battle, during which he actually loses control of his powers and ends up creating a storm himself--inside the building where the battle is taking place. It also foreshadows the "storm" of events to follow and the fact that he will be the one to bring that storm to an end.
@NormalGayBro
@NormalGayBro 6 жыл бұрын
Pre scenes always fly right over my head.
@toritherobyn
@toritherobyn 6 жыл бұрын
Dude. I'm teaching Macbeth to my students this term, and I am DEFINITELY using this video to discuss foreshadowing in more detail (obviously, it will be at the end of the unit - spoiillllllleeerrrrrrrrrsssss!!). Thanks SO MUCH for all the amazing content you post! You're definitely one of my favourite channels out there.
@HelloFutureMe
@HelloFutureMe 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Honestly, these sorts of comments are the highest of praise. I hope they help your students in some fashion. ~ Tim
@TeeSmashedPotatoes
@TeeSmashedPotatoes 6 жыл бұрын
In a D&D campaign I run the party met the four chosen ones who protect the city, and described how they had silver bands tattooed on their arm. When these heroes died, there were silver ribbons that shot out of them and found the players to signify that they were the new chosen ones
@super-weirdo5219
@super-weirdo5219 6 жыл бұрын
Yay! I love foreshadowing! ALL HAIL MISHKA!!!!
@henrique88t
@henrique88t 6 жыл бұрын
I used to interpret the heavy sound of the Ring hitting ground as Bilbo doing it against the will of the Ring.
@vazak11
@vazak11 5 жыл бұрын
Insightful!
@diannaparis
@diannaparis 5 жыл бұрын
Great video
@kayceeisonfire
@kayceeisonfire 2 жыл бұрын
"Foreshadowing is a dramatic device in which an important plot point is mentioned early in the story to return later in a more significant way" name that quote
@pokedoctor2087
@pokedoctor2087 6 жыл бұрын
You should read Brandon Sanderson, he is a master of Foreshadowing and Plot Twists
@zidaryn
@zidaryn 6 жыл бұрын
Lost about I'm pretty sure he has. He talks a lot about Brandon Sanderson during his vids on writing a hard/soft magic system.
@bubbl3guy213
@bubbl3guy213 5 жыл бұрын
True that, the motto for Mistborn is basically there’s always another secret
@JakubWojciechowski933
@JakubWojciechowski933 5 жыл бұрын
I just love how try to said Czechow.
@taynamarinifontanela5106
@taynamarinifontanela5106 6 жыл бұрын
I remember pre-scene foreshadowing in the beginning of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, the first book.
@BelieveinBeauty13
@BelieveinBeauty13 2 жыл бұрын
The foreshadowing of Hereditary is one of the best examples of the method I can think of, it is amazing.
@emexdizzy
@emexdizzy 6 жыл бұрын
"Or a nuclear war" I see what you did there, sir. I see what you did.
@marshmallowvampire8503
@marshmallowvampire8503 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. This was great.❤ One way I chose to foreshadow is that my character will be a top tier inventor and trapper (in monster hunting) by the time he's grown up. So in chapter two, he is revealed to be a wood carver that creates squirl traps and the first clock to set up or foreshadow his strengths.
@SingingSealRiana
@SingingSealRiana 4 жыл бұрын
I like to intreduce the idea of a mechanic or event happening through myths or let it happen befor on a lesser scale. Two characters merge to resolve the final conflict it can just Happen. First objects merge, the idea of people and objects merging is intruduced, but gets argued about, later one already knowen character is revieled to consist of two seperat ones so how it works and what rules it folowes is well flashed out befor the final twist happens and therefor it is prevented to feel like deus ex machina
@Trekkie46
@Trekkie46 6 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed. Hoping your videos help me to understand the wiring process better so i don't keep writing aimlessly and realize i don't know where the story is going.
@namesarefortheweak
@namesarefortheweak 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Mishka, Tim did a pretty good job with this episode, perhaps give him a promotion to your senior advisor, or even a substantial pay raise. I of course can’t command you, it was just an idea.
@eatingacakeyay
@eatingacakeyay 6 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video. Can I just say that the peaceful, soft music works really well with all the information you managed to put in this video? Made it balanced. Had you chosen upbeat, fast paced music I would have had a harder time consuming all of the information because my brain would have been too busy also consuming the music!
@HelloFutureMe
@HelloFutureMe 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I get a lot of good feedback about the music. It's Music for Manatees by Kevin McLeod. ~ Tim
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