Heyy ✌️I'm the creator the Heavy Ordnance batteries thank you for featuring me, the models look absolutely amazing :D

This is the kind of video I missed so far in the 3d printing wargaming sphere! Everybody prints and paints, but with the interviews and the technical aspects... this video is giving me "value" beyond entertainment. Keep it up.

This went from a wacky “stick it to GW” video to an extremely interesting technical analysis and discussion around 3D printing

Pausing the video now to say I love the interviews you're having with these creators. I love that you always shine a spotlight on creators. I think it's interesting how they both respond to the issue of sharing their models because it is a sort of gray area. It's interesting the mix of "attempting to copy 1 to 1" and "these are based on models but with our own spin on them". I don't know if there is a great/correct answer for whether if it's bad or good to to create these models, whether or not to charge for them, or if people are right to buy/print these models out. However, I think this discussion is important and is one that people should be having. Your rpints and models looks great also! cool paintjob! Appreciate all the work you do for your videos!

That interview about differences in settings and resin properties were REALLY insightful!

As others have said, the interviews with designers/modelers makes these episodes incredibly insightful, and I honestly find them to be the cream of the crop of resin 3d printing videos. I love learning more than a basic 'look at this product' or a 'how to' featuring a surface-level 101 understanding regarding a single setting. Look forward to more in the future!

Ty is a legend he literally sat down with me for over an hour going through settings with me I learnt so much

Fantastic video. To weigh in on the piracy aspect, and whether it hurts GW... My own opinion is that I think it hurts them far less than they think it will. For someone like myself who is a fringe player of 40k, I've owned several thousand points worth of 40k armies in the past (which has all been sold now), I have no desire to get back into the hobby as the models are cost prohibitive for me. However, I do own a 3d printer and if I could make my own armies for a fraction of the price and play again, or get into the modelling side of the hobby too, I may well do that. If I choose to go down that route, GW will be net positive from me as I'll be buying bits and pieces here and there, paints, rulebooks etc. etc., so without piracy they no longer have me as a customer, and with it, they have a customer that they otherwise would not.

I love all the value you provide us, all with a fun video too. Thanks for all the projects you take on to help 3d printing become more reliable.

WOW! Thanks especially for the interview with the cones guy. It's already obvious that the cones are kind of support test around 0.3mm but have him talk about it plus the resin examples with zmud and tenacious is gold! Oh yes and btw, good paint job!

the little sound effects added during painting and basing are great e.g. the texta writing scratching sound, the water sound for the glue, the dirt being moved around for the basing mix being added. Small effects but have a big impact. Great work man

Dude, phenomenal video ! So educational, loved those interviews. Honestly, you're the king of 3D printing videos, slick visuals, buttery audio, and interesting topics. Keep doing what you're doing, it's always a pleasure to see what you come out with - like I genuinely look forward to watching it ! :D

hey, thanks for featuring my work on this video! (I'm the maker of the sentinel model) love the result, seing the process and all those insights is really nice

Excellent video. Hearing the people behind these designs was a rare treat. 3d printing tends to be such a taboo subject but hearing what this community has to offer is pretty awesome. Keep up the amazing work man.

I have to say, after 15 years I'm looking at getting back into Warhammer, been doing piles of reading and watching video's. Stumbled across your channel while looking into 3D printers, which I didn't know existed. I really love all the video's you do, went through your whole back-log as well. Made a follower of me for sure! Keep up the fantastic work, and who knows, maybe I will get back into the hobby again.

happy to support mate :D my name on a guardsmen with a plasma gun heck yeah @38:18 Yes it is a great time, can I stop smiling now :O

This video fills me with hope for the hobby. About 11 months ago I developed RSI on the job working for GW, and they treated me awfully. I used to warn my manager about the incoming affect 3d printing was bound to have on the business and he used to snub me and tell me it'll never be as good. Screw that company, they're 100% the biggest problem in the hobbyspace. Just like any other creative innovation, their models have always been iterations of models and ideas that came before them. I don't believe they are going to be able to protect their IP because the truth on all that is out and spread wide. The models you've printed look amazing, and having seen the 3d sculpting myself from inside HQ, probably of a higher detail and quality.

GW need to release affordable 3d options and get in on the action 😂

Excellent video. Did a ton of resin testing and settled on using "8K" resin on my 4K printers. I like the detail I get from 8K resin. I use Phrozen's 8K resin mixed with 10% Tenacious. Calibrated with the Cones of Calibration and I can print minis reliably. With the money saved on not buying physical mini's, I invest that into good resin.

Interesting to hear the sculpters talk about why they make what they make, I don't see much off the 40k printing scene, but it looks huge, interesting to see 2 totally different POV's here

Just got a photon mono x 6 k and I'm printing the sentinel for my first print. Love the channel thank you for all the support. Looking forward to the next video.

Great discussion with Ty from Tableflip - calibrating one of my printers at the moment and ran into the same scenario that I felt the Cones were giving me over-exposed settings. The guys on the Tableflip discord are really helpful. Looking forward to your vid on this.

Cones part is pretty interesting. My feeling is the story only holds up is there is 1 proper standard how models are pre-supported (thickness etc.). But in the end the assumption is, as long as you keep overexposing more and more, in the end you won't get a misprint. But yeah... you sacrifce dimensional accuracy. If you don't care about dimensional accuracy then, apart from maybe bigger build plates and a faster printer you don't need the expensive 4K/8K stuff. You throw it away anyway, to a certain degree. Other way around would be more interesting --> if you dial in your printer for dimensional accuracy --> then print the cones --> they teach you what kind of supports would work --> that way you can make sure your own supports are OK. Of course at the sacrifice that you need to put some work in yourself instead of click and print. So it's a different approach aiming for a different goal. But still not sure given pre-supported model support variations how universal it actually is.

A ultrasonic waterbath does an amazing job at cleaning resin prints. Even better than a 'wash & cure station'.

Don't stop making content ever!! love your approach and production value!!!!

16:26 Yes that sound is normal. It is the bottom spinny part of the machine hitting against a piece of a printed mini. Just make sure no small parts are sticking through the bars at the bottom and the sound will go away.

the cones guy had so much helpful insight. nailed the "how do guys"

Super stoked that you gave the Conjure Sculpt resin a shot!

That interview with Ty was fascinating and I'm glad you decided to keep the whole segment instead of cutting it.

Amazing video - especially the interwiew about the resin and cones of calibration. Just adding 2cents from anycubic wash and cure machine side (the small one, coming with photon mono 4k). The machine comes with an underlying reflecting/mirror foil disc (like a really thin cd) which does help with curing from the bottom, pretty ingenious.

Great video; really good stuff. Loved the " 'ow do guys" impression too :D

Also thanks for supporting the sentinel! Most appreciated ❤

Dude this video was so good. thanks for the super indepth process. I started something similar trying to make a imperial knights christmas box.

17:14 with some TUP in the background, what a real man

His walker looks as close to GW's walker as GW's walker does to a Star Wars AT-ST, if you get my meaning.

Honestly, i realy like the paint job. I don't know but it gives me like a grimdark comic style vibe. Love ur vids, keep up the good work!

Got to say this vid has been in my recommended for a while, but I've been putting it off because I assumed it would be one of those long, drab, poorly edited walkthroughs of 3D printing. How sorely mistaken I was. Even though I don't yet 3D print in the hobby, this was one of the best introductions technically about the science and art balance of it I've seen. Every minute kept my attention even though the bulk of what I came to watch was in the last 10 minutes or so. Aces all round

This was by far the most beneficial video I've watched since joining the 3d printing universe. Thank you for taking the time to interview the experts. I really think you have a good thing going and should make a show doing the interviews. Keep up the great work by man!😊

Came for the guard proxies, stayed for the calibration lecture :) Im a design engineer and one of the things we balance in a design is the needed strength for a part to keep the stresses within acceptable values :) so often we have to adjust the design so the part would be strong enough for its intended use

Holy shit, this was an educational video. These interviews and questions are incredible. Even after years of printing so much clicked for me in this video.

Wow! this video is absolutely awsome! Its the most detailed and well themed video i've seen for 3D printing content. Please keep up the great work! :D

Subbed because of those interviews. Taking the time to get in contact made all the difference to this video.

Came for what I thought was going to be a funny video, stayed to learn.

This is f**king good video, all the cameos made it 10/10

One of the big reasons why stl files come with errors is that they get corrupted during upload stage. I had bit of a back and forth with one creator on MMF where I basically checked their files for them as a customer and they kept reuploading the files and I kept finding errors such as straight up just holes in them that you can't fix with stuff like lychee because lychee doesn't think they're broken. According to them the files were always fine on their end, so what they ended up having to do was download the files through MMF, then repair those and upload those and then they eventually stopped getting corrupted on upload.

One of the most genuinely informative videos I've seen on 3d printing in a while, all wrapped up in my favorite hobby Amazing video

Nice to hear an Aussie voice discussing 3D printing.

This is quite a stellar channel to find. I came expecting to see neat warhammer prints. Instead, I got some genuinely amazing knowledge on printing and troubleshooting, alongside the way these prints are made. Well done. I'm shocked you kept it so engaging, too.

I recomend taking off the support of the big things before putting into the wash and cure, you will have better cleaning results!, nice challenge btw!

Those interviews were really great and insightful. Great video that didn't feel long at all

218 dollars is all it will cost me to get into resin printing right now, everything included. What a time to be alive.

One HUGE THANK YOU for all your effort and sharing!

I´m 15 minutes in and dunno if you say anything later; but I had to stop and give you the best tip I got over ther year printing. Get a First IPA bucket. You get off most of the resin in that one in a couple of minutes and than you use the washing and cure machine to do the second cleaning. I never had any resin left over on my minins after that . Also use a cheap hairdryer to remove the supports. Its more enviroment friendly and you can hit just the supports, avoiding bending other parts as with hot water. Finally an IPA distiller (I use a water distiller) from Vevor is gonna save you so much money in the long run that is insane. Good luck with your channel.

Regarding: "there is no such thing as a 'consistent rating' because every printer/resin combo has so many variables up in the air, so Minirater is a bit waffley." I think Minirater is still an important project, because there are plenty of elements to these model patreons/shops/kickstarters than just 'does my first print succeed with minimal calibration'. Customer service, file organization, if files are corrupted or have lots of topology errors, islands, etc. And even when only referring to the 'printability' of files and presupports, having a community average score is an excellent resource, even if you feel it necessary to put a big asterisk next to those specific scores say YMMV.

Ty is absolutely spot on in what he says. I see the Cones getting a lot of flak for being a "poor" test, but in my experience its a fantastic quick 'n' dirty test for giving you an accurate ballpark to work around. The trouble with the likes of the AmeraLabs or Siraya Tech tests is that people aim for perfection within the confines of that particular test. Its like trying to determine if your PC can run a particular game by running a benchmark. Some games are well optimised, some are just poor ports. One thing that Ty didn't pick up on is the difference between different batches of resin. I run a 3D printing business and my machines run 24/7 and drink a lot of resin. I can categorically say that resin quality/properties varies from batch to batch. I usually buy my resin in 100L at a time, and I will check the dates on each bottle, grouping them by date before they're used. I'll run calibration tests between batches as there is a noticeable difference between them. We're talking a +/- 1 second difference in exposure time in some cases. Don't assume that because you're buying the same resin from the same manufacturer that your settings remain the same; they won't. Not if you want consistent quality anyway. You don't have to calibrate from one bottle to the next, but I would advise checking the dates on those bottles. If there is month or more between the one you're using and the empty one you've just thrown away, run a calibration test. The results may surprise you. One piece of advice I can give is to pick a resin and stick to it. Learn it's shortcomings and adapt to them. Even the most dogshit of resins out there can be made serviceable with the right settings. It won't take you long to realise how much these materials can be pushed before you hit the ceiling of what they're capable of achieving. Too many people flit from one manufacturer or variant to another when they have a rash of failures. Learning the limits of the materials you're using is just as important as learning the mechanics of 3D printing.

Hey man great video! I'm the pre-supporter for Atlan Forge and i've shared this with all our people on discord, very informative! I also shared the mini-rater site and urged people to contribute ;)

Holy shit, I'm glad I found this video even though I tend to skip over anything focusing on GW stuff. Super insightful stuff on resin calibration, really helpful!

This was great! The interviews really gripped me in particular, and looking forward to more minis content :3

Just discovered your channel and omg your video are so interesting, the advice on making and supporting files, 3D printing tips&tricks and even the painting "guide" parts of the video, ALL of this is really well thought, It's just seems so easy to follow and understand. Keep up the good works !

i love this video. so refreshing from all the print and paint vids. keep up the good work!

ProTip : get 2nd wash container for wash station keep 1st for initial wash and then put basket in second "cleaner" IPA. i tend to keep 10 min each.

Awesome video! I've found that if I put the uncured bits in a small tub of water and cure them while they're suspended in water then it helps a lot. IDK if that occurs due to refraction aiding UV light hitting any little hidden parts or if the water helps in some other way. Might be worth testing though!

I think it's really great to have learned a lot about resin printing.

Thank you for the amazing content as always, I have actually bought a 3D Printer, and wash/ cure station for this very reason and your ability to give lots of info while keeping it fun and well edited and commentated so thank you again.

so glad youre making this video, I've been thinking of making this but I don't have any filming set up or the time to learn to edit videos. But yeah you could have done this with the last army they released too the leagues of voltan. Keep up the series!

Great video, shame the upgrade to the old printer had some issues, but it's encouraging to hear about 4k retrofits in the pipeline; I had good results upgrading to a mono screen on my Creality LD-002R.

As someone who just got into wh40k near the end of 8th edition with Imperial Guard, I don't really have a problem with 3d printing and attempting to recreate models that gw themselves are putting out. The sheer fact of the matter is that GW has some of the highest profit margins of any company, their products are remarkably cheap to create, and they sell them for some of the highest prices in the industry. That combined with their routine decisions to rather make the game worse than to allow other companies to make models for older units and options that were still in the rules but not made by gw anymore, as well as recent decisions regarding raising their prices for retailers and local game stores to acquire their products makes me not really worried if 3d printing is hurting GW anymore since they themselves seem so focused on improving their margins while providing none of those savings to their customers at all.

GW should look at the 3D artists as a shot across their bow. Their exorbitant prices had to be endured because they had the monopoly but not now. They should be really getting around the table with the shareholders and having a grown up conversation about the prices they are charging. The artillery is a version of the nebelwerfer so GW are nicking ideas from history too.

By far one of the best 3D printing and miniature channels on KZfaq, no idea why you don't have more subscribers yet!

You place the build plate in the wash cure machine then take the models off after washing. Chucking them in loose is only for large models that don’t fit. Otherwise one of those little bits will fall through as happened

IMO 3D printing absolutely is a threat to GW and that's a good thing!

Love how thorough you are covering this stuff. If I may make a suggestion, I use SUNLU ABS like resin. That has been my go to resin for a good while now. Other than air bubbles in flat areas, I’d consider it the best resin I have ever used.

Just stumbled here and tripped on a subscription. Great video mate. Haven't seen many great Aussie producers but this is a really good watch so far (~10m). Howdy from QLD.

As a newbie the huuuge technical know how, tweaking of that printer, the time, effort before, during n after is why I'll be sticking with GW models

the conversation on calibrating for tension strength or dimensional accuracy was very enlightening, for minis I will aim for tension strength calibration with the cones

I was fairly appalled when I saw the new Guard army set, couple of squads, command team, a sentinel and 3 field guns, the old set 2 squads, a command team, a heavy weapons squad a russ and a chimera.... The field guns are equal to two separate vehicle kits... really! This is the reason my current Guard army is being built from 3rd party models.

I've seen other KZfaqrs use geek gaming scenics for boards but this video is the one that convinced me to give it a go. Those bases are cool

had the necrons void dragon printed and painted and brought it to a game at a warhammer store before it was available for sale

you can totally tell they took peoples feedback to heart because if you look at the screen change process on their M series printers. its way way way way easier

I enjoy these 3d army printing videos more then I should 😂 love it man

I bought the bigger anycubic wash and cure machine and its been brilliant. They have a mirrored sheet that goes down under the turn table aswell as the strip that has the UV lights has an arm that can turn up to 55° from memory so it's definitely made curing way way better

Another bang-up video! Definitely going to continue being subbed and look forward to your extensive comparison of resins in the coming year. it will be useful when I finally start 3d printing crispy minis.... and will then be updating your tier list!

Let's get real - the howitzer is bog-standard. It looks a LOT like a US 105mm howitzer. The Sentinel is straight out of Star Wars, so GW can't make too much of a claim.

I've been am avid 3d printer for years and I gotta say this was an amazing video! Especially when you talked with the cones guy! I've been printing for years and I still learned a good amount! You easily earned my subscription

It's so sweet to see you guys crushing GW face I just can't stop celebrating

I think 'derivative' 3d model/3d printing works should be perfectly fine, morally and (hopefully?) legally. The artist had no access to 3d tools or assets that GW directly creates, so everything is still their original work, even if it was heavily inspired by something else. Back in the day in engineering, this process, *reverse engineering*, was incredibly important for big companies who needed to create competing products. The only way the 3d modelling could be done 'more proper' by that old method would be having them model the figures off of a text description of the GW version, instead of a picture. Ultimately, I'd say if GW was doing their job right, they wouldn't have to worry about being harmed by 3d printing in the first place. Movies didn't die because of VCRs, despite what companies claimed. Music didn't die from digital downloads, live tv didn't die from tivos/DVRs, etc. If they learn to ride the wave and embrace it instead of running themselves into the ground, they'll come back.

3D printing warhammer is good cause it makes warhammer much much MUCH more accessible to people who can’t drop hundreds on minis and paints and books

the ciuty is a multi use terst, pin holes for over exposure, and towers for udner exposure and also liftign speed tests

Is 3d printing a threat to GW? Yes. Is that a bad thing? No.

i printed off the sentinel a day before finding this video - supported files worked great, thank you both

That was a phenomenal watch, I learned a lot! A couple points of interest - 1. Try out Siraya Tech Fast Resin, it's what i've been using of late and I've had no issues using their default print settings on my Photon Mono. (Just don't leave it in the vat long term because it'll make for a hell of a clean-up) 2. I don't have an Elegoo Wash and Cure, but I do have the Anycubic Wash & Cure 2.0 and that one doesn't have led's in the bottom but it does have a reflective sheet that you place below the tray, You might be able to rig something similar up for the elegoo.

YESSSSSS I'M SO EXCITED FOR THE NEW YEAR VIDEO

You are doing gods work, keep putting out awesome content - I am here for all of it. Very excited for the video comparing different resins!

Clicked the Video because of the clickbait title, left with a channel subscribtion because this was extremely insightful. Thanks PS: I also got the chitu Photon s upgrade. Its worth disassembling the plastics for easier Installation as far as i recall correctly altough they dont show it. For me the upgrade was well worth it

What an amazing video. I still have a lot of questions but I think I'm a bit more prepared to start my 3D printing journey. Thank you!

My view: Warhammer has had proxies since last Century, and ultimately it has enabled more people to play these games than if there were "official only". It all started in the old days, when the Wahammer Fantasy Army lists included units that there were no models for, such as Skaven spider riders, which strongly promoted other-company minatures or combinations, such as a GW skaven on a Ral Patha giant spider.

hey mate, what a great video, I like how much you displayed all the steps in your endeavor, it's quite unique and comforting when engaging in a task myself, as it gives a good playbook to tackling these technical/creative issues as they arise.

I started out on Vallejo for airbrush priming. It's not bad but adhesion could be better. I've heard good things about stynlrez, and then a ton of bad things due to freezing in storage/shipping. I passed them over for Pro Acryl prime from a reputable local store.

Another variable to consider is your wash times and bath temp. Note I use the water washable stuff now, but letting it sit for a little longer will soften the supports right up when you find they are a little tough - I sometimes see this if I don't pull them from the build plate right away. Also for the cure station the basket is typical of most of the models out there and small bits can fall out or ends stick out but your solution is the typical one to just find some mesh. For the curing bit, anycubics ones have a relective plate that goes in under the tray - you could probably just put some mylar or tinfoil with a hole cut out to reflect underneith.

Also, yeah, having a wash&cure station is a total gamechanger. I got the big one from anycubic to go with my Mono X, because it just lets me chuck in the build plate completely (which, nicely, also cleans off the plate itself). Post processing was never easier than this. It also cures better, has this little part on top that angles down, and a reflective sheet that goes under the turntable to reflect the UV light back up and under the parts.