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12 жыл бұрын

A SPAD in Scotland

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@neilburns8869
@neilburns8869 2 жыл бұрын
It's good to see how the driver manager interacts with the driver, he's got a good attitude and treats his staff with the sort of care and respect that you would want from someone in that position.👏👍🤝
@HampshireBrony
@HampshireBrony 11 жыл бұрын
I think you can work on the assumption that every one of these videos is narrated by Paul Tyreman, unless told otherwise
@operatormook1623
@operatormook1623 4 жыл бұрын
I like paul
@TheArkamedBat
@TheArkamedBat 3 жыл бұрын
@@operatormook1623 You'll be going nowhere
@juliustrenton4836
@juliustrenton4836 2 жыл бұрын
sorry to be so off topic but does any of you know of a way to log back into an instagram account..? I was dumb forgot the password. I would appreciate any tricks you can give me!
@mikechristelow944
@mikechristelow944 2 жыл бұрын
This one isn't. It's narrated by Paul Press, as stated in the closing credits.
@straightpipediesel
@straightpipediesel Жыл бұрын
@Andy B His full name is Paul Press Tyreman, you can look him up. I agree it's probably for union reasons.
@ep03546
@ep03546 10 жыл бұрын
Spa films made this many other films like it. Paul Tyreman is the presenter and voiceover of many of their films.
@venomlily1651
@venomlily1651 Жыл бұрын
The most telling of the heroics here is the fact that no one was injured because everybody involved did the best they could to avoid calamity . Well done, sirs !
@megandunnett7900
@megandunnett7900 3 жыл бұрын
You know what else has poor adhesion? The lip sync on this video😂. But serious, I’m glad the emergency services weren’t so stupid as to park on the level crossing/tracks as I’ve heard of some of them doing (in a rail maintenance depot at that).
@ChoppingtonOtter
@ChoppingtonOtter 7 жыл бұрын
Luckily there's a recorder on those or they'd have blamed it on the poor driver.
@vincitveritas3872
@vincitveritas3872 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. It's always is unless he can prove otherwise
@MrWhite-pn7ui
@MrWhite-pn7ui 7 жыл бұрын
16:06 This is the shit nightmares are made of.
@brendanhart5838
@brendanhart5838 4 жыл бұрын
Had a similar incident at the Ferry with a 158 and no emergency services, trying to make a station stop in the early 90's. Was only doing 40mph due to a speed restriction, but still stopped well past the station by over a mile. Didn't fan the brake either. Recognise the Traction Inspector, or whatever they are called now. Pretty sure he trained me for HST's.
@brendanhart5838
@brendanhart5838 10 ай бұрын
@@user-ub2hn3tm6m unfortunately in leaf fall season they couldn't stop on a dime. I was still sliding at South Ferry with no noticeable drop in speed. We had no sanders or scrubbers on the 158's then. In comparison the HST's were fitted with scrubber blocks on the power cars which made them perform far better in those conditions. The braking instructions of the time didn't help either.
@coshiro1
@coshiro1 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else said "jesus" at around 4:25 when he said it RIP
@markemanuele1929
@markemanuele1929 8 жыл бұрын
The whole video is out of sync with the audio!!!
@haddockman30
@haddockman30 8 жыл бұрын
+Mark Emanuele So not just me then.
@MTrains
@MTrains 7 жыл бұрын
Noticed that too!
@FerroequinologistofColorado
@FerroequinologistofColorado 4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I’m not the only one. I thought I was loosing my mind
@74HC138
@74HC138 4 жыл бұрын
I love the old iMac
@thegeforce6625
@thegeforce6625 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a 20” Apple Cinema Display, it connects using Apple Display Connector, probably hooked up to a PowerMac G4 or G5.
@edwardmortimer2150
@edwardmortimer2150 3 жыл бұрын
Random
@7carter579
@7carter579 3 жыл бұрын
Nooooo not the precious gritty boy 1:00
@isleofwighttransport
@isleofwighttransport 2 жыл бұрын
Another Paul tyremam train guide🤣🤣👍
@EdwardMason9000
@EdwardMason9000 7 жыл бұрын
Happy 13 Year Anniversary!
@MarkPentler
@MarkPentler 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of poor adhesion it looks like the Wiltshire crash may have been caused by similar issues
@smudgycat6750
@smudgycat6750 2 ай бұрын
Salisbury tunnel? It was. They're increasing RHTT apparently
@3ktone685
@3ktone685 6 жыл бұрын
De-interlace= Did not get turned on
@scottym1139
@scottym1139 9 жыл бұрын
I'm curious why no horn was used, surely once the driver realised the situation he was in , why no train in distress. ? Everyone would have heard a warning horn and realised a train was coming through.
@DOCTORDROTT
@DOCTORDROTT 7 жыл бұрын
Spot on, should have made continous burst of the horn till clear of danger
@ssbohio
@ssbohio 6 жыл бұрын
The other side of that coin is that it's possible, in a situation of great stress, to become fixated on one thing and not think of other issues. A similar thing happens in aviation. There was an Eastern Air Lines flight that crashed in the Florida Everglades because all three crewmembers became so fixated on a possible problem with the landing gear that they didn't notice the airliner slowly descending until it was too late.
@fetchstixRHD
@fetchstixRHD 5 жыл бұрын
From 5:05 responds to that. The driver seemed focused on the train not stopping, and considering he wasn't thinking about the level crossing or people outside of the train it isn't that surprising that he didn't use the train in distress warning. Bearing in mind that it's easier to think about what should have been done after the fact, this is one of the things that if you haven't been trained for, you probably won't know how you'd react to. As per @@ssbohio's comment, there are many air accidents where pilots have reacted in a poor manner to incidents which made them worse, and that's one of the weaknesses of humans.
@rapman5363
@rapman5363 3 жыл бұрын
@@ssbohio Apples and oranges mate. The Eastern airlines crash unfolded over a matter of 30 minutes. This particular incident was over a lot quicker so reaction time was a lot shorter.
@ssbohio
@ssbohio 3 жыл бұрын
@@rapman5363 I agree completely. However, the principle is the same: Fixation on one problem leads to a degradation in performance in other areas. The ability to divide attention diminishes as stress increases.
@StuAnderson90
@StuAnderson90 11 жыл бұрын
Paul Tyreman
@TheArkamedBat
@TheArkamedBat 3 жыл бұрын
SPaD and you'll be going nowhere
@SpeedbirdA320FO
@SpeedbirdA320FO 11 жыл бұрын
Who narrates these videos? Are there any more? Pretty interesting! Thanks for the upload.
@PottersVideos2
@PottersVideos2 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's Paul Press Tyreman.
@TheArkamedBat
@TheArkamedBat 3 жыл бұрын
@@PottersVideos2 The YOU'LL BE GOING NOWHERE man
@TheThecyclist
@TheThecyclist 11 жыл бұрын
parts of this video the lips are out of sync with whats being said
@TheArkamedBat
@TheArkamedBat 2 жыл бұрын
SPAD=P45. SPAD=You'll be going nowhere.
@harry1144
@harry1144 4 жыл бұрын
Driver is probably thinking he’s gonna gonna pass it with out even put the break on it he knew it wasn’t going to stop and there was no way he was going to
@Wenlocktvdx
@Wenlocktvdx Жыл бұрын
Yikes. Not as bad as this but Portuguese Millipedes have been known to cause poor adhesion on Victorian railways, particularly on the Ballarat line. I can recall hearing some lengthy wheelspin from the DE loco while starting from several stations.
@West_Coast_Gang
@West_Coast_Gang Жыл бұрын
1b47 spadded
@CMooreVideos
@CMooreVideos 2 ай бұрын
What's the tool used by the MOM at 14.08?
@itzsamplayz6046
@itzsamplayz6046 3 жыл бұрын
12:39 shoking
@rjlewis9999
@rjlewis9999 7 жыл бұрын
If you encounter some type of unexpected emergency you should use the radio to contact the driver instead of relying exclusively on the signaling system.
@johnpflit
@johnpflit 6 жыл бұрын
2003. Probably no cab secure radio or GSM-R at that time on that line.
@ssbohio
@ssbohio 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not familiar with the radio system in use prior to CSR & GSM-R. Would it not have been possible for a signaller to call a train by radio then?
@stumpypetros2685
@stumpypetros2685 5 жыл бұрын
RJ Just a point: You say "use the radio to contact the driver" ie the Signalman. The train had to go past the Red STOP to make a SPAD before it was an Emergency. In normal conditions the brake application on the yellow CAUTION would have allowed the train to stop. If the signaller was watching the train, they would not have reacted on the yellow. I do not believe the signals check speed past it. IF you are instead meaning Driver use the radio to contact the Signaller, then that would make more sense, as the driver knew the train was slipping and no one else, and because the signaller is removed from the situation they could have made some call to the fire brigade, or better, reminded the driver to hit the horn.
@straightpipediesel
@straightpipediesel 5 жыл бұрын
@@stumpypetros2685 The emergency started with the report of the fire at the station. The signaler didn't treat it as an emergency, missing out a chance to avoid the SPAD. He could have asked the prior signalbox to put the signal back at danger (2:20). This would have started emergency braking earlier. He could have also called the train on the radio promptly and told the driver about the put back, explaining the fire activity.
@Edsbar
@Edsbar 3 жыл бұрын
Considering the signalling system is designed to give drivers the time/distance they need to stop and no poor adhesion had been reported the use of the radio was not an appropriate action. This was a freak occurrence with no blame or fault, with lessons to be learnt and actions to prevent future incidents.
@TheBVE
@TheBVE Жыл бұрын
Are drivers legally required to remain inside the cab even if the train is on a potential collision course? Sending out a general stop alert and moving everyone towards the rear of the train would seem more logical
@stumpypetros2685
@stumpypetros2685 5 жыл бұрын
FYI en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhesion_railway "For steel on steel, the coefficient of friction can be as high as 0.78, under laboratory conditions, but typically on railways it is between 0.35 and 0.5,[4] whilst under extreme conditions it can fall to as low as 0.05. Thus a 100-tonne locomotive could have a tractive effort of 350 kilonewtons, under the ideal conditions (assuming sufficient force can be produced by the engine), falling to a 50 kilonewtons under the worst conditions. " This is just off my memory and of course I cannot find the article in Google, but, LOCO wheels turn roughly 15% faster than the speed of the train. It scrubs steel which builds up behind the contact point providing 'starting blocks' /all the time. A bit like Rockets in space use the spent gas to push against with the fresh gas to provide forward force. The 0.05 was equivalent of a Car trying to brake on Ice. The AWS senses the wheelslip and immediately attempts to reduce power to the motors to recreate traction again. A person would not be even able to sence the slipping let alone react to it. I'm having AWS installed on my model 5" gauge LOCO. To me this is a good, invention, and I do not have a problem with it, but I understand that point of when does the human make a decision. To me theres too many bloody controls. So instead of Good / Having an Issue / Its screwed, and letting the driver decide what to do next, by the time they try to read all the dials, they've gone over the cliff as it were.
@Muttleytech
@Muttleytech 9 жыл бұрын
Doggie Hill or Jay Leno?
@GreatWestern-yp8mq
@GreatWestern-yp8mq 8 жыл бұрын
+Mutleytech Dougie Hill.
@MM0SDK
@MM0SDK 8 жыл бұрын
+GreatWestern 43125 He looks familiar, I'm sure I've seen him about in Perth.
@boothplaysmcc
@boothplaysmcc 8 жыл бұрын
what is the concquence of a spad
@railsceneireland8770
@railsceneireland8770 8 жыл бұрын
there could be a huge accident its like if a car runs a red light
@boothplaysmcc
@boothplaysmcc 8 жыл бұрын
what happens to the driver I mean like how much dissaplin
@railsceneireland8770
@railsceneireland8770 8 жыл бұрын
+boothplaysmc if they do it purposely theyd get sacked dunno about accidentally
@boothplaysmcc
@boothplaysmcc 8 жыл бұрын
oh right ok thankyou
@railsceneireland8770
@railsceneireland8770 8 жыл бұрын
+boothplaysmc yw :))
@MrHotSpice100
@MrHotSpice100 Жыл бұрын
Hope driver sounded his horn at least Just saw that he didn’t damn .. good he wasn’t blamed but if there was a casualty at the crossing he 100% would get the blame and possibly jail
@CosgroveNotts
@CosgroveNotts 8 жыл бұрын
so who is the guilty party if any?
@FrankyLon
@FrankyLon 8 жыл бұрын
No guilty party here, of course all parties could have done things differently as they explain in the video, but nobody did anything wrong the spad was a result of circuimstances and primarily poor rail adhesion.
@paulanderson79
@paulanderson79 4 жыл бұрын
AV sync is miles out.
@PottersVideos2
@PottersVideos2 5 жыл бұрын
3:15 Big mistake. You do NOT fan the brake controller on a WSP fitted train when you need to stop in an emergency. Just put it into the emergency stage and leave it there.
@skyem123
@skyem123 4 жыл бұрын
I may be completely misunderstanding it, but maybe he didn't realise it was an emergency for those 17 seconds?
@oliverbrelsford5472
@oliverbrelsford5472 4 жыл бұрын
But he didn't know the rails were struggling with low adhesion? Also, drivers shouldn't be using the emergency brake in normal service unless they REALLY have to, and it is very unlikely he would have known the nature of the emergency.
@marcuspotter5590
@marcuspotter5590 4 жыл бұрын
@@oliverbrelsford5472 That's true, but I thought that there was a reason for him fanning the break controller. In any event he should've just placed the break controller into step 3 and left it there.
@martinclarke8094
@martinclarke8094 3 жыл бұрын
The video and sound go out of sync on this video
@timratnett4243
@timratnett4243 3 жыл бұрын
WSP can over react to slight adhesion. I have known trains to over run platforms when there is only damp rails. The WSP equipment will off load brake applications to a dangerous degree. I used to teach my trainees not mess about if their train was approaching a potential collision. on a 375 cross the cab kick the plastic cover off and open the air cock. Bypassing the electrical braking. By dumping the air at least you have the parking brake. I looked at many downloads where the WSP was not applying any brake at all.
@itzsamplayz6046
@itzsamplayz6046 3 жыл бұрын
:/
@chrispayne7204
@chrispayne7204 2 жыл бұрын
9:39 "With the benefit of 2020 hindsight" What the actual f***
@Trainman10715
@Trainman10715 Жыл бұрын
As in 20-20 vision, he's saying "clear hindsight" basically
@tcc300892
@tcc300892 Ай бұрын
What do you mean? What's wrong with that statement?
@883mondo
@883mondo 3 жыл бұрын
He was shit,.... put train in full EM, EM on the radio, continuous horn,
@isaacroebuck9514
@isaacroebuck9514 5 жыл бұрын
Seriously? "Disaster"? Absolutely not. The derailment of ICE train 884 in Eschede was a disaster, 9/11 was a disaster. This was a minor rail traffic incident.
@fetchstixRHD
@fetchstixRHD 5 жыл бұрын
"Near disaster" (9:40). Change the circumstances and timing just slightly, and you could very well have a train colliding with a fire engine at 70 miles/hour, the fire crew/train driver/passengers getting hurt or killed, and then two sets of fires, the one the fire engine was called for and one resulting from the collision. Don't forget that Paddington was a result of passing a signal at danger.
@bakedbeanishdragon
@bakedbeanishdragon 2 жыл бұрын
9/11 was an inside job
@cjmillsnun
@cjmillsnun 2 жыл бұрын
A very similar "incident" happened last week, only it resulted in 2 wrecked trains and a driver with life changing injuries. It was lucky it wasn't more than that.
@Saucy-ws6jc
@Saucy-ws6jc 2 жыл бұрын
The fire crew could have been killed by the train. They clearly state "near disaster" you imbecile
@riverhuntingdon6659
@riverhuntingdon6659 8 жыл бұрын
Nasty computer-driven train that was at the start. Disc brakes never were any good on trains, why on earth they never gave us sand boxes and a sand pedal instead of all this "Automatic Wheelslip Detection" rubbish I'll never know. A similar, though electrically - powered train, overshot Stonegate Station a few years back. They've taken most of the control away from the driver now. It's all done by computer so it must be good they bleat. Glad I'm now retired and don't use trains.
@Coolerics2011
@Coolerics2011 8 жыл бұрын
+River Huntingdon WSP also initiates the train's sander system.
@QwertyScream
@QwertyScream 4 жыл бұрын
The train was not and is not computer-driven.
@RWL2012
@RWL2012 3 жыл бұрын
@@QwertyScream "microprocessor controlled"
@Saucy-ws6jc
@Saucy-ws6jc 2 жыл бұрын
More people died with 19th century trains without this technology than in the 21 century with it. More people die on roads and road vehicles lack a system like ATP to enforce signals and speed limits
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