learning that Pirate used to not be unique now has me picturing a scenario where a Pirate accidently targets another Pirate and i feel robbed somehow

1:43 An argument there is that Witch actually managed to find the gun, Solving the issue lol

FUN FACT: Trickster is the highest skill role in the game. Perishing against a Trickster is a clear skill issue, and a sign that your brain was simply not big enough to prevent them from outplaying you.

Vigi being unable to shoot because they lost their gun sounds like a level of silliness that I’d be able to pull off every night, never mind just the first one 😭

Four side notes: Lookout is one of two town roles that are astral, the other being Admirer. The Veteran silhouette has long since been scrapped since it just didn't look good and was too similar to pirate There are only 4 coven roles that have unique necronomicon mechanics, them being Coven Leader, Necromancer, Hex Master, and Potion Master (with Potion Master being the only bookholder that can perform non-killing visits to a non-coven target). ToS2 Coven Leader essentially functions like ToS1 book Medusa with a visiting powerful attack, the main difference is that instead of having a stoning visit, they have roleblock immunity.

6:20 I was actually part of the Alpha, and I remember the discussion we had about Pirate. Pirate has ALWAYS been Unique in Town of Salem 2, even during Alpha. At one point though, us testers asked the devs if Pirate was the only Unique Neutral role that wasn't a Neutral Apocalypse. That sparked a discussion of whether or not Pirate SHOULD be Unique or not, but it was eventually decided that Pirate wouldn't really work if it wasn't Unique due to how the game would handle 2 pirates dueling the same player or if two pirates dueled each other. Because of that discussion, the devs added that to the changelog to make it clear that Pirate was going to be a Unique role. So no, there was never any Multi-Pirate games. It was simply in the changelog to make it clear that Pirate was going to stay Unique going forward, and that it was officially classified as a Unique role.

The werewolf dance... I miss it. I hope modders will save that beauty.

6:30 I'm firmly in the opinion that the red background from the arso bug should be used when a horseman pops out (or hell make intentional since after a fire there's a lot of redness and smoke)

All this time i tought im the only person who actually knew anything about TIS other than the fact that it existed.

The name Shadowwalker was commonly used on the ToS forums’ Forum Mafia. In fact when I saw that Shroud was in the game my first thought was “oh they implemented shadowwalker”. You can probably find some old FM games with Shadowwalker among some other roles exclusive to FM (Marshal, Phantom/Shade, Prankster, Kleptomaniac, and more).

Crusader’s helmet blinking gave me an extra lifespan of 5 years

4:36 ToS 2 Witch is basically ToS 1 Witch, but as a Coven role. The idea seems to be to make the Witch its own role again and use Coven Leader for the new role that the Coven centers around, like before. They separated the CL’s ability to do a generic kill out into the Necronomicon. Now that the book is always in play and every Coven kills in addition to using their ability when they have it, the Witch’s effects look a lot more like a normal Coven role and don’t give it much reason to be called the leader.

The potion master remaining Nikki is weird since they mainly switched over to pun names for role skins. The only pun I know involving "Nikki" and potions is Nicole Mimi Tithel from Mana Khemia 1. ...and if they're going there, Jess is better for PM :P

I thought that the Wildling's art pulled inspiration from SCP-939 which would have been an odd choice. I feel more solace recognizing that it's supposed to be a demonic Gollum instead.

Remember to always Spam who your coven is when you get Illu it gives you a better purpose.

0:42 this was brought up when working on Better TOS 2!! The Marshal role was also originally incorrectly called Marshall, but this got brought up when making the icon for it loooool

I REMEMBER PIRATE NOT BEING UNIQUE! THE PIRATE CLAN HAD EACH OTHERS BACKS NO MATTER WHAT!

Fun Cleric fact: I don't know if the bug still exists, but back when I played in august, there was a bug where if you had a custom list with only town roles, with a TT as the only evil, then a cleric would be forced to spawn in the game, even if cleric is banned, if there are no TP slots in the game, or if there are already 6 clerics in the game (meaning you would spawn with 7 clerics). It would spawn instead of a townie in any town slot that is some sort of RT (like TI or TS, or just RT). Roles preset in the list like Jailor are not affected. Also, a Potion Master fact: This has since been patched, but using the same bug as the Retributionist, it was possible to use your potions on targets you cannot normally use them on. This means you could use an attack potion on your own coven.

3:17 haha I yoinked that screenshot from dms since it was the easiest source to confirm that fact 😄

The splatoon shade thrown is crazy

Always love the content! Top notch! Can't wait for more of your role insight videos!

I wish that they didnt take out the dancing warewolf Is better than looking at your screen and hoping that you dont die to trickter But whit the ww dancing when your finish doing what you want to do you just see the ww dancing and thinking to your self "look at this moves" I gona miss the dancing ww

I had this in the replies to another comment, and I doubt it would gain much traction rn, but here are 20 facts about the game's skins! 1. Macy is the only skin to have a cutscene-unique animation (which is for being shot by a deputy). 2. Martha was the first NPC to be added to traitors (not counting Elizabeth/Sister Mercy who was used as a placeholder for all the other npcs) 3. Most of the character's eyes fade to black towards the top, but for some reason this doesn't apply to Petra and Shinrin, who both have a more orangey color instead. 4. Speaking of traitors, it seems that the skins were initially supposed to reuse their names from traitors (see 3:03). For some reason this doesn't apply to Jackie. The other skins listed are now known in-game as Rosemary, Tomas, Shinrin, Gerald, and Grim. 5. Nevermore actually keeps his crow in his ghost animations unlike his base skin, Avery. 6. The vampire winscreen is the only time the ghost idle animation can be seen without the effects. 7. Liric and Sabrina use their second idle animation on loop for other animations (Sabrina for her victory animation, Liric for his trial animation). 8. Black Widow seems to have about six eyes (you have to look closely to see) 9. Out of all the skins in salem 1 to be redesigned for salem 2; Firebug has the least changes to his design while Kande has the most. 10. John, Blyte, and Jackie are the most frequently used skins. Shadow Wolf and Grim are the least frequently used skins. 11. As of current, the head icon for Shinrin's battlepass variant skin is off-centered. Probably due to removing the original fox ears. 12. Glinda's wand and scroll come from one of the game's microtransactions. Specifically the one to change your account name. 13. Nevermore and Coven Leader are the only variant skins that have animations unique to them, that being their trial animation (maybe also Van Hellsing w/ her victory animation but I'm not sure if she's actually a Macy variant). 14. Summer transforming into a butterfly is a reference to ToS1 Nikki, who turns into a moth. This is also where her other variant gets its name, as in traitors it's called "DustyMoth". 15. In the TiS Alpha, there was a placeholder minigame timer that featured an older, slightly different version of the current artstyle. This included older versions of the current characters, and featured a Beta design of Rosemary. 16. Kande's battlepass variant is a reference to ToS1 Kande. It has the same pants and markings under the eyes. 17. Headless Horseman loses his pumpkin head in his ghost idle. 18. Out of all female skins, Sabrina and Rosemary are the only two that have skirts that don't go all the way down to the knees. 19. Liric's asset in the Skin Select screen does not have any eye shading. 20. Catherine seems to be a redesign of Sister Mercy, an NPC in traitors. They have the same dress.

Now that explains why so many horseman icons They were showing in our faces all this time!! And we were clueless (at least i was)

The reason the vet doesn’t have a silhouette is they plan to redesign it

Unanswered tos2 question: Why do Vigi, Pros, and Dep face the Hangman's wrath when they mess up, but the Jailor only gets fired?

real talk though, they should've left the ww dancing, it's funny af and gives it something to do besides looking depressed

2:25 I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think that Cleric is ALSO able to cure Poison on revealed Mayors, unlike in TOS 1. I feel like I remember it happening when Early Access first came out.

Pipe said the werewolf is going nuts when he first saw it LOL

Can't help but feel like that unused Enchanter icon was meant to be a Blade Runner reference, which is pretty cool.

I remember seeing a Pipe vid with the WW rolecard bug. That shit was the equivalent of having Subway Surfers playing to the side of the game, lmao

Deputy is actualy from the CardGame originaly where it was the next sherrif (aka when sheriff dies the Deputy gets promotet to sherrif), he was just redone in ToS2 making him actually usefull

Unfortunately, and I should care to repeat this, that Disguiser and Illusionist are separate roles, since both happen to exist in TiS, which apparently takes place in between the two main games. Neither is the same role, although Illusionist seems to have ursurped Disguiser's mechanics. Also, claiming that Psychic uses RNG and not pseudoRNG is a bit difficult to substantiate, as true RNG is nearly impossible to perform. Hex Bomb was originally called Final Hex.

I love how alpha rit was so strong that BMG buffed it.

Coroner best role right?

3:56 Of course, Jinx would be trolling if she started building Morello... oh wait, wrong game.

In my opinion the Werewolf dance should be immortalized as an easter egg because it is amazing, maybe a version of the role's win screen that only appears if it was a multi WW game and they all survive?

I miss the werewolf dance

I thought this said a fanfic about every role :skull:

2:02 You know it sounds stupid when you're getting called out by people who play social deception games.

Ah yes, our old Veteran Deputy Sheriff Marshall 2:30 oh I hate it

WEREWOLF KILLIN IT BRO 🔥🔥🔥🔥 LOOK AT HIM GO

I feel like I should be concerned that I knew most of these.

2:28 I will do my best to suppress this knowledge I gained today. It is somewhat cute and kinda cursed.

So. . . Who wants to get jester and then proceed to say something on day 2 along the lines of: "wow, the character really does dance when i mouse over the role card" and then vest then next night in case of a vigi, sk, or coven attack

This video is missing the one Curtis fact that he takes Ls every day. common curt L

Adagia posted??!!!!

Wait,if tracker was remained unchanged mechanically. Wasn't arsonist also mechanically unchanged?

FACT bears eat beets. Bears, beets, "Battlestar Galactica."

Psychic evil visions use RNG on evil visions, not so much in good visions. If you suspect someone is evil and you select them in your good vision and it gives you a confirmed town, that person who you selected is guaranteed evil, the only way it gives a town is if you selected an evil (yes both can be good but it is very very unlikely), the games code tries to make the result true and selects a town member at random. If it is a confirmed seer/Lookout/any other non revealed roles. Psychic results also cannot give revealed roles, so if a mayor reveals psychic cannot get them in their rng results.

The jailor went full weeb and cut off his ponytail with the sword to show that he is a changed man.

everyone reading this requires an additional cat

1:46 JAILOR HAS A PONYTAIL? THEY'RE EVEN HOTTER THAN I THOUGHT. i mean. what? who said that. guilty this

Petition to bring back WW rave

i miss the WW dance

4:20 (Nice) - This isn't actually confirmed to be the first instance of this as far as I'm aware, as afaik, the Town Power alignment could've been made first. In the original Town of Salem, players would use Town Power as a made-up alignment for the most powerful, usually unique Town roles. These were the guys who got the TP/LO on them and voted Innocent when someone was suspected of being a Jester. Think of roles like the Jailor and the Mayor. This way of thinking still carries over to Town of Salem 2, and is also an instance of the developers embracing the terms the community has come up with. Just a fun fact I thought I'd share with you. Oh, and here's a fun fact about the two new roles! -The Socialite's ability is the first instance across Town of Salem and Town of Salem 2 of Townies being able to talk in night chat without being *directly* targeted by a player's ability. -The Marshal is the first role to share their role's name with the name of a different role's achievement. It is also the only Town Power role to not have originally existed in a previous game of the series (Jailor and Mayor come from ToS1, whereas Prosecutor and Monarch come from TiS) Edit 11/02/2024 - Here's another fun fact - did you know? Every skin has flavourtext, even the default ones. Through this text, you can deduce the alignment of a little over half of the available skins. I'll put the list in the replies to this comment, since it's a very long list of 49 characters. Edit 29/06/2024 - So, they updated the Socialite and now my fact is inaccurate, so here's a new one: The Socialite is the only role capable of entirely blocking the visits of *every other role* (save for non-visiting roles and roles that visit dead players) AND gaining info from who they block. Their current button for their Guest List ability is also recycled from the Admirer.

4:48 I thought the devs said this wasn’t true? Iirc one of the devs said in the discord that it’s random and not based on player order or anything like that

where is this ritri nerf doc if it still exists?

Is it just me or did jailor's earrings used to be yellow in sillhoute or am i just tripping

Oh I somehow still thought Pirate wasn’t unique. Do you know why the Sheoud is called the Shroud? Where does the idea come from? What’s it a reference to?

Coroner, most buffed role in ToS history, still so useless it's best played as reverse Jester trying to bait Conj/Rit

Coroner got 4 buffs still really trash and A meatsheild

I still kinda wonder why jinx gets book the last. Is it too strong with it or the exact opposite?

Question: What video was the one mentioned for the retri fact?

Personally, I think they should re-implement the old neutral roles into TOS 2. As a later thing, because obviously it's not that important, but being able to add old neutral amnes/GAs/etc, even survivors to my custom games would be a heck of a lot of fun. Also add vampire and cursed soul to customs. And let us add pairs of lovers like the tos 1 lovers mode. But do more important things first.

should i play town of Salem again?

I like your vids

Nice❤

Common Curtis L

Admirer is the worst role in the game. Why not make it Guardian Angel, but town ability ONLY. Why make it lover's mode where two get killed? I would rather be a framer in TOS1 with a role list that includes ZERO TI than be admirer in TOS2. If I wanted to play lovers mode, I would play lovers mode so that 1/2 the lobby are playing with the same rules. Placing a bad rule on myself and one other team mate is just horrible and the negatives of it are worse than the positives on the class even accounting for the confirming yourself to another towny. Guardian Angel... not Guardian Angel + Lover's Mode.

the necromancer and retri thing is higher on the list priority not lower LMFAO SPREADING MISINFORMATION

Everything has to be gender neutral, thanks deep cut splatfest