One in a Minion - Two in a Minion

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2 жыл бұрын

Part two of a two part series looking at Minions in their natural habitat.
Storyteller for this game: Ben Burns
One in a Minion character sheet here: imgur.com/7S5NRdB
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Find out more at bloodontheclocktower.com/
Intro visuals created by Jon from Luke & Dad Productions / @vfx_jon
Intro music - Private Reflection Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0
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Other music by Karl Casey ‪@WhiteBatAudio‬

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@brandonvangieson8087 2 жыл бұрын

Man after hearing the idea, I really want to see a game with that amnesiac character swap ability. I feel that would be gloriously chaotic.

@EdsonR13 2 жыл бұрын

22:30 I think if the recluse shot in the dark actually chose the damsel I might give the win to evil, but if the recluse missed the damsel I would not count it against evil as their one shot

@aquietdarkness Жыл бұрын

Ben you forgot to congratulate the evil politician Patterz!

@Talkie_Toaster 10 ай бұрын

"evil are up against the wall here" 3 evil alive 2 good alive "We want this to look like a viga game" *doesn't kill any minions then lets evils have nomminating power where the demon "may kill" (if a sailor can drunk a useful townsfolk or a mayor that doesn't bounce then a demon that "may kill" should be used harshly in equal measurement) Rooting for good team wins is so difficult when the ST is still backing evil plays when they're in a strong position... just bums me out Still addicted to watching this game though, whether Ben, Skillz, Avery or Aggie is the ST, its always something that keeps me wanting to see another game

@boencao6553 5 ай бұрын

Totally agreed

@kyleb8117 2 жыл бұрын

Ben: I'm with you on the tepid tea. I'm such a space cadet, I often forget it and just figure "Sure, I'll drink it." and I'm really never mad. Tea's just great. Hot or cold or tepid. What a crazy script. I love it. This game was so crazy. Well played on both sides.

@BloodontheClocktower 2 жыл бұрын

I do love me some tepid tea. These past few summers I've also been experimenting with ice tea as well. - Ben

@kyleb8117 2 жыл бұрын

@@BloodontheClocktower I went to an event for food that gave me packs of tea that were supposedly amazing for iced tea (and the samples were great) but I haven't made them yet. I really should do iced teas more. If you have any experiments that worked out well, I'd be interested. My first thought is maybe trying to make an iced peach tea and add fresh mint to it?

@rasmusforchhammer9557 2 жыл бұрын

Loved Grolen claiming goblin. It really increased mistrust of information

@rasmusforchhammer9557 2 жыл бұрын

I really feel like good is working very hard to not just win

@bogardeth 2 жыл бұрын

Hey! My script (again) lol

@miracleweathers8612 11 ай бұрын

Wonderful script everyone should play it once

@killuasbetter3247 Жыл бұрын

A year late and around 50 full sessions of BOTC binged so far, but I gotta say this is by far the best round of BOTC I’ve ever seen!

@Nuclear_Gandhi 11 ай бұрын

Who would win: the town putting Lil Monsta on the block or one slithery boy

@skruffytiger2002 Жыл бұрын

Farmer should not be in games without people who can choose to kill them at night, that sucks XD

@shotosynthesis312 11 ай бұрын

But if you put them in, they may think it is a game with something that can choose to kill them, though that doesn't apply since the assassin can choose to kill

@q-tuber7034 2 жыл бұрын

So good!

@evenruder 2 жыл бұрын

It is fun to cheer for evil being that they are the underdogs at the beginning of the game. But this game had two good players actively helping the evil team from the very beginning. Basically the good team were heavily handicapped purposefully by two of their members, meaning the good team was against the wall the entire time.

@Correr-jf6ig 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly my thoughts. Patters was essentially playing evil the entire game especially wasting that 6th vote on Navean when 5 was more than enough.

@Ellie-rx3jt Жыл бұрын

Also Ben always says that the power of the farmer is that it can be used to confirm good players, but here he not only intentionally didn't kill Nadine in the early game, but he specifically justified killing her in the late game by saying that he *didn't* think it would improve trust among the good team. So the good team was -2 players and had one player with essentially no ability whatsoever. Edit: oh and having another good player with the worst possible minion ability. DA is basically only ever a handicap to a good player, since it only protects from execution, not death by night.

@meathir4921 2 жыл бұрын

1:06:00 I have no clue what good team were doing here not voting on Nicky; he’s mechanically proven from Aiden’s perspective and anyone who trusts Aiden has every reason to believe him. Even if not, he has already proven a DA is in play; the likelihood of the DA not being Nicky and instead Nicky being the Boomdandy here is extremely slim. The same thing happened with Grolen, where the good team have just lost track of the fact that there mechanically has to be an Assassin and can’t be a Fearmonger, and there’s strong indication of Poisoner.

@BloodontheClocktower 2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes you just want to execute people*. *Nicky

@aidenpearce6624 2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm. Considering the Amnesiac ability it would have been fantastic, if patters and aggie where swapped. Perfect symetry of red tokens.

@ribbonquest 3 ай бұрын

Lesson learned: Navean is the best babysitter ever!

@AlexH274 2 жыл бұрын

2 deaths doesnt sim Vigor if Amne saw poisoner + boomdandy if you prove Assassin is in play.

@q-tuber7034 2 жыл бұрын

Unless Amne was poisoned when they learned Boomdandy (or Amne is lying)?

@commander-fox-q7573 Жыл бұрын

Why doesn’t Alejo die when he gambles Nicky as the Alchemist when he is actually the drunk? Wouldn’t that be an incorrect gamble?

@commander-fox-q7573 Жыл бұрын

Nvm apparently he wasn’t the drunk, the alchemist token just looks really similar to it at this resolution

@DakotaAvery23 Жыл бұрын

Alejos pronouns are they them

@commander-fox-q7573 Жыл бұрын

@@DakotaAvery23 my bad, good catch. KZfaq isn’t letting me edit the comment rn rip. I usually just say they for everyone by default so idk what I was thinking when typing this lol

@giola6628 20 күн бұрын

This is the first game I am disappointed after watching about Ben’s choices as a ST. I feel like there was too much of backing up the evil team especially leaving two minions alive.

@Centrifuze 2 жыл бұрын

Navean blatantly CHEATING with the "Suuuuuure" and "Not me" during babysitting selections...

@Ericshadowblade 2 жыл бұрын

I press for a name even if it doesnt matter as story teller. The ability calls for a name you give me a name

@MrFitzomega 2 жыл бұрын

also saying they were playing good when wasting poison pretty much everywhere. they mostly played good because ST gave them kill on the most importants informations even if they were at least a bit hidden.

@darbyl3872 Жыл бұрын

Maybe shaking your head, or saying "not me" is allowed before choosing. Otherwise they would be woken separately, and notified separately. I don't have an almanac entry for Lil' Monsta, so I'm not sure.

@skruffytiger2002 Жыл бұрын

@@MrFitzomega Ben seemed a bit rushed this game, I believe he was just killing off players so he wouldn't have to visit them in the night ;)

@mikepictor Жыл бұрын

If poisoner targets goon, shouldn’t they be poisoned and thus NOT change alignment?

@verdiss7487 Жыл бұрын

It's dependent on order of operations -- if the goon's ability fires first, then the poisoner becomes poisoned and thus does not poison the goon, so the goon becomes evil. If the poisoner's ability fires first, then the goon becomes poisoned, does not have an ability, and thus does not change alignments or poison the poisoner. When it comes to the goon, it seems clear to me that they ought always come first, and should always poison the chooser before the chooser's ability has any effect, but it might be something that some storytellers would run differently.

@darbyl3872 Жыл бұрын

The Goon ability overrides other abilities (and they still become evil before dying to the Assassin).

@Lunaraia Жыл бұрын

@@verdiss7487 The Assassin will get drunk if he picks the goon first, but the Assassins' ability says, "They die, even if for some reason they could not." Because the Assassin becoming drunk upon selection is a reason the Goon wouldn't die, that drunkenness is ignored utterly, and the Assassin still kills the Goon. The Assassin still counts as drunk, though.

@rp2741 2 жыл бұрын

I went to that bitly link and chrome told me it could be harmful and has been reported as such (VC channel name at 11:15). I am dying of curiosity if that link is actually a rick roll and not at all dangerous 😅

@Centrifuze 2 жыл бұрын

Well hope you didn't die in these 4 months from all the curiosity, but it definitely leads to the KZfaq version of Never Gonna Give You Up.

@shotosynthesis312 11 ай бұрын

Buy a cheap computer and try it

@leothehuman1558 11 ай бұрын

Painful to see Patters throw so hard after everything

@seantodd8875 8 ай бұрын

I have judged you. Kindly.

@sammmmmy195 2 жыл бұрын

**SPOILERS FOR THIS GAME** The wiki for Lil' Monsta says "To keep the game fair, the Storyteller should never allow more than one alive Minion on a final day - plan for that process!" Ben goes against this ruling in this game (though I don't think it mattered in this particular scenario). Ben - or anyone else that's part of TPI - do you disagree with the wiki (which states this scenario should NEVER occur), or could it be argued that the wrong decision made in this game? In my personal view, if the good team had failed to execute ANY evil players, then leaving two evil players alive on the final day is maaaaybe a fair punishment for the good team playing poorly. In this scenario though, I think Ben probably should have killed a minion on the final night. A 50:50 guess with no real potential for deduction feels like not a very fun way to end the game. Having said all that - great game! So excited to play some expansion scripts IRL.

@ThatOnePurpleFox 2 жыл бұрын

It says should. This is more of a recommendation then the actual rules

@TheLastSane1 2 жыл бұрын

That mechanic should be removed then 100%. You should never punish a player who is doing well. If the Evil team is playing very well and the ST then kills off their team because mechanically they have to that removes all fun from the game and incentive to play well. It is a very poor game that mechanically requires a ST to kneecap their players who are doing well.

@sammmmmy195 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastSane1 I strongly disagree. Killing off minions to 1) give good a CHANCE to win, and 2) not making their final execution a random guess, is not "kneecapping" the evil team. It's not about punishing evil, it's about giving good a possibility to redeem themselves. The storyteller can (and generally should) make this possibility slim, by trying to leave the least suspicious minion alive, along with the most suspicious good players, to help/reward evil. You still have incentive to play well, because when evil play well it leaves the good team with less information they're confident about. I just think that in a Lil' Monsta game particularly, "playing well" doesn't equate to "keep all minions alive as long as possible", as most are likely destined to die at some point anyway. You need to think about the arc of the game a bit differently than in other scripts.

@ThatOnePurpleFox 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastSane1 there are points in time where you kill off their team that is beneficial to them such as helping with bluffs or helping them sell worlds where other people are the evil team. It isn't kneecapping them because they still have the vote there and the player isn't fully out. And just removing the fact that the story teller can kill them would make the story teller picks completely useless. I find that it's actually a balanced mechanic and I think that it should be fine.

@BloodontheClocktower 2 жыл бұрын

I don't disagree that you should generally be finishing the game with two goodies and one evil in a Lil' Monsta set-up. There are many little half-rules like this that a good ST will generally abide by. For example, you wouldn't normally put all four starting info roles in a game of Trouble Brewing, as that's not a balanced, steady flow of info for the good team. But it's important to note that if you always do something, your players will notice it and assume it as a given fact. Sometimes you have to do something a little non-standard in order for the game to remain fun and full of surprises. - Ben

@DannyJutten 2 жыл бұрын

This was fun to watch, but in good’s defense, it’s hard to win when one good player just decides to play for evil. Patters’ behavior wasn’t in the spirit of the game imo.

@TheLastSane1 2 жыл бұрын

Nah, Patters behavior is 100% in the spirit of the game. Snakecharmer can become evil at any time. Honestly Patters played more for the good team by being openly evil. Imagine if he had picked Aggie or Navean and became the Boomdandy or Poisoner. He was basically outed evil and it means that if he did switch he is an easy lay up.

@midgesmoot1739 2 жыл бұрын

*two good players But it’s totally in the spirit of both characters.

@LifeUntilLove 2 жыл бұрын

It may be in the spirit of the game, but I would never play with a player like Patters. I hate people who play chaos for chaos' sake because they always sink their team for their own amusement. It might be an okay strategy for a snake charmer, but it make it feels like good players should want good to win. With this group, people all want to jump to evil or play as chaotically as possible.

@Correr-jf6ig 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastSane1 sure that's a fair play when Patters was alive. But burning the dead vote when good already had enough votes to execute Navean is a politician win. Every execution in the night was evil's best kill too. Good had no chance. Aiden got the ability early and was rewarded by being immediately killed.

@secondcityr7331 9 ай бұрын

Patters really messed up the game today. Worst game

@AlexH274 2 жыл бұрын

Poisoned damsel does not inform evils they are in play. but to balance the game, maybe kill them first so Navean doesn't just insta win day 2? right?

@RoderickEtheria 2 жыл бұрын

Damsel being in the game is pregame information. It comes into play even before the poisoner acts. The minions should always be aware if a damsel is in the game. If it were intended as N1 information for the Evil team, it would stated, "On N1, all minions are informed a damsel is in play."