What a load of bullshit! There’s no such thing as “the Individual” - it’s an abstraction from the real human situation which is: people living together in society. You cannot consider human beings in vacuo - we are social creatures by nature, something Peterson and his followers do not seem to comprehend.

Roger Gillion, if you skipped, then you missed.

@@syourke3 When & how exactly has Peterson (and/or others like him) ever said anything that even remotely implies that we are not social beings who are born that way innately as individuals who are all a part of a much larger society whether we/they like It or not??? Please enlighten me because I'm completely oblivious in regards to the statement that you're referring to in your commment. Thank you.

@@KRIS-sh8wp the story of Jordans life, so many things that he never says or even implies, he's said and implied

@@syourke3 We cannot be social creatures by nature if we are not an individual first.

Lol

Visit the library. They have things there called books that you might like too.

@@JohnLee-fr6pi that's true, and thanks to technology we can also gain a lot of information from things called videos too, you might like them.

And thanks to KZfaq in particular.

kgonepostl hush hush now

Yes, you must accept suffering as it enters, and let it go as it leaves. I know from experience ;)

In greek we call it Phygoponos or the fear of pain that makes you avoid it.

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

Thank you.

It is not possible to act in the moment when you orientate yourself to the highest good you can imagine. Let's say the highest good for me is well-being for all of humanity, including myself. That means, I want me and others to be happy. So, what if I'm not? I will create more suffering than necessary in order to motivate me to get happy, because mentally I'm comparing my actual situation to a possible situation in the future. Any goal, any orientation regarding the future or the past will ultimately lead to not being in the moment and therefore to suffering.

Tbh, teaching people how to be more valuable members of society and how to better their lives shouldnt come at a premium, because then those that are stuck at 0 cannot change for the positive as easily, which isnt what you want.

he is an amazing human being.

Ack, you said it out loud.

We are so lucky to be around for this. Can you imagine being 16 yrs old and the thing that consumes your thoughts is not nuclear war in itself. It’s the realization that not everyone else was also.

Amen brother! This stuff is masters level wisdom and understanding into us! Know they self? This guy knows us! He has gone into the darkness and come out with the light. Amazing understanding of the mystery we all live each and every day.

Right!? Ah such amazing advice.

There was a South Asian thinker who said something like that human beings can't reach perfection but the process of trying to achieve perfection makes us human. (I'm sorry I read that in 9th or 10th grade so I can't remember exactly but it always stays in the back of my mind).

@@anisatajy9445 Possibly Confucius or Lao Tzu. Either of those ring a bell?

Amen. Has God called him to preach yet? Because he's been speaking truth for decades....

Yes, yes, love this. He has another one. Something like "act in a manner to that creates order out of chaos." I feel lucky and grateful to have stumbled across this man.

I've already watched all his lectures in full twice 3 years ago. Now I'm revisiting during the quarantine. I'm always learning something new. It's like reading a Dostoevsky novel.

I officially support you. Unofficially, good for you!

@@astrojeet been listening to him for years as well - amongst other giants of the intellectual world !

Yep. I'm a psychology and Bible expert now lol

@@astrojeet you need to read for yourself. It's good to hear a others interpretation but maybe you have deeper insights that we could benefit from.

Matthew Bedford best comment ever.

@Alexander Supertramp bitter

inner engineering

RSD Tyleeerrrrrr

Whatever you own, you need to ask yourself, do I serve it or does it serve me?

Deep, very deep. Unfathomably deep.

And sticking feathers up your butt doesn't make you a chicken. ;-)

I'd take it a step further, if we're talking about a physical posession. I'd say that things you don't own but want to end up owning you. It's like you create your own value for each physical thing you want to own and then it starts to mean that much to you. The danger here is to be sure that what you want truly comes from you, and it is not in fact someone else's desire.

...at a significant time in my life.

No. Dr. Peterson's lectures are invaluable in this regard, but he is not the one changed you. You must recognize YOU are ultimately the one who made the choice to change. You alone have the power to change and better your life. Congratulations on your embarkation on this journey! I wish you the best.

@@okami3271 Perfectly said, Okami! We must own everything in our lives, good & bad. Cheers :)

I think GOD did😕👉He let You'r soul be😎.

@@nazwaffen9219 There is no reason to believe in such fairytales

You are not alone on this one. Lots of us are vengeful to our own hurt. Touching my own nose.

Who were you set out to be?

My brother!

People often perceive the Bible as being nothing more than a fairy tale; however, even if you're not a religious individual, the sermons it contains are tremendous lessons toward living a fulfilling life. As long as, of course, they're not taken out of context. If you need proof, just look around you. North America is an absolute mess. It's lost.

Men age like wine, women age like milk

Awareness? Alertness implies potential hypervigilance.

Once upon a "now" time, I was being harassed by a demon-fem, among other things, shouting I was a wannabee - trying to get reaction of entanglement - my only reply was: "You are right, I am a wannabee " they waited with snickering stances for a low consciousness comeback of entanglement . . . . I continued with "I want to be mindful each time it's now and it's now right now" They blanked out I turned and walked away. Being present is quite different than "living in the moment" be well in heart mind.

I think he’s quite mindful of presence and being in the moment. Living in the moment without a general purpose or direction in life leads to depression in my experience. Process orientation paradoxically needs a goal to direct the processes towards.

@@NassifKazan Alertness implies vigilance. But you are totally correct. Focusing intently on the present moment, like you're trying to pin it down with your eyes, generates a lot of beta waves which are closely associated with this attachment/suffering stuff. You really do have to "just kinda be there".

Being alert is good, but it's also good to be mindless sometimes.

Amajor Seven that's pretty much what have existed for centuries. Of cause you have to announce your moral superiority with your myopical claim

jamie 711711 - we are here to explore and to offer up our insights and maybe putting egos and weaknesses aside, come down to your own beliefs (which can and do change with time). Why are you here? I’m not superior but I aim to understand more.Its not about moral myopathy as you call it. It’s vices that prevent your growth and evolution and attachment to them truncates your development.

jamie 711711 interesting that you see Amajor Sevens comments as moral superiority. I don’t see it that way but rather someone just adding some good points to help others.

Amajor Seven The most core attachment I have found to be holding myself back recently is that to my ego, or likely more correctly, to my external and internal self images. From being able to admit the things I have done to seeing my own responsibility in causing my percieved suffering, my ego habitually fears exposing these truths to others and accepting them within. Its all too easy sometimes to ignore the elephant in the room or to offload blame.

Maximilian Lembo - you are so aware then. So, then the question is how do you draw the line between these two points. It sounds like you are coming soon ready to shed your skin, to step into the next level of your evolvement as a being. If fear holds you back, it may be that you are holding on to the past (but in a romantic nostalgic way). Forgive yourself because there is no thing that is perfect. Just knowing what you already know, means you can see it. Make the transference or shift internally, and then with time, the outer persona will do what’s needed. You won’t need to do the thinking. It will automatically do it by itself because your body knows how to. Thanks so much for sharing your story with me!!💕best wishes!

And suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not disappoint us. -Romans 5:3-5

Peace is a lie,There is only passion. through passion I gain strength. through strength I gain power. Through power I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken. *the sith code*

Thank you

Wish i knew. So true. I HATE so much after financial failure and loss of my dream.

thanks man

Did JP say something smart in this lecture? What was it?

The Molecule FX boulder you clearly wouldn’t understand .

@@natalieboult4726 Try me. Point to one smart thing JP has said in this or any other lecture.

I couldnt have worded that better. But same! For damn sure! He's one of the greatest thinkers and speakers out there

@@joerudd7914 Are you implying that Peterson said something smart somewhere? What was it?

He’s saved 287,832,673 lives thus far….

That's beautiful!

thats very beautiful

Wonderful

wow I felt so great reading this. thank you.

Deep wisdom

clever

Snaggle Toothed “Four bucks” says the hot dog vendor. The Dalai Lama hands him a $5 bill and waits but the vendor does nothing. “Where’s my change?” the Dalai Lama asks. The vendor replies, “change comes only from within”

that joke SUCKS ..!!! get it ?

Ba dum tzzzzz

A Buddhist goes into Pizza Express and says. “Make me one with everything.”😁

It's necessary to read Ayn Rand's non fictional works to really understand her philosophy. And to get an easier concept of her sense of life 'Anthem' is the fastest tool. Roughly speaking: evil is impotent against good because her metaphysics start with the axiom that existence exists, ie it starts with a positive; the light is stronger than the darkness. As far as my understanding goes all of the comments in this thread are a misrepresentation of her ideas.

@D. E. Considering how late this response is and my general ignorance of Ayne Rand this comment might be inappropriate. I apologize if it is. I am however very curious as to how Ayne Rand is considered a Nazi. I'm absolutely no expert of Ayne Rand and I don't fully trust Wikipedia which is the only source I've glanced at for this. But judging by this quote (From Wikipedia) "she condemned the initiation of force as immoral[3] and opposed collectivism and statism as well as anarchism, instead supporting laissez-faire capitalism, which she defined as the system based on recognizing individual rights, including property rights." (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayn_Rand) Specifically, the Opposing Statism part of that leads me to believe she was not a facist, let alone a Nazi. Considering Facist doctrine to my knowledge runs off the basic doctrine (All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.) - Benito Mussolini How could she be a Nazi if she was against State power and regulation? If you have some information that I don't or just more knowledge, in general, I would love to know more (:

@D. E. Thanks for the honesty (: It just really annoys me when people call everyone who they disagree with a Nazi. Not to say that that's what you were doing. You clearly had at least a reason behind the statement. I am also a Christian and also won't pretend to be one of the best, or even doing the best that I can. We all have our problems. Thanks for being open to conversation (:

@D. E. hear yee, hear yee. You are so right. Today's Easter, i hope people are actually reading their Bible.

D. E. I wouldn’t try to read Atlas Shrugged as literature, but more as an intro to objectivism. That being said, do read it, as you have to know what Objectivism is in order agree or disagree with it.

Word! That was really good to hear. I was always confused by that one too. When I lived in Cali, it was usually brought up and talked about in order to justify casual sex with someone. It repulsed me! But I thought it was because I was wasnt "getting" something. ...I am now a recovering New Age participant. lol

Biggest lie sold to GenX.

@@amyrenee1361 Thanks for that passage, I like it. I need to read more of that book! "Knowledge without wisdom", well said. There are gifts, ideas and even truths that can be found. But it is all cherry picked. I read once that we are treating other cultures and traditions like a shopping mall and its only the packaging we want, really. The book suggested that it is due to US culture being so young. We are humans evolved from tradition, but it takes much longer than a mere 200 years to develop that, so we are latching onto whatever we can find to fill a deep void within. I thought that was an interesting prospective.

Periodt!!!!

He has a whole long list on his website ;-)

@@hanswoast7 can u give link

formusiconly1 Congratulations friend! I have just been watching his lectures for a year or so, and it has enforced my way of thinking so much ! It is is difficult, however to absorb all of this wisdom. He has an amaze mind and thought process doesn’t he ? I admire the way he slowly and methodically considers any question before answering. He isn’t an egotistical blow hard or condescending. This world needs THIS man at THIS time !

@@jasjones6556 Agreed Jas! We can tell he is not afraid of facing the depths. Would you recommend his books?

Yeah that "live in the moment" idea can kick back, and kick back so hard you will struggle to recover.

LOL!!!

She rarely misses any classes

she's so studious! I love it!

She has a long way to go if she's still wearing it.

Hahaha I always notice her. And the blonde girl is late again.

Do you think love is opposite of attachment?

@@SubliminAL-ql7go Read what I actually said then do some serious thinking about how you interpreted it.

compassion is not unconditional.

Too bad BS isn't forbidden.

This is disgusting in the best way possible.

@Bas Wenmakers Jordan Peterson addressed that in the video with the reference to Nietzsche. Sure, if somebody is scared of an action but would do it if there were no rules, then they aren't moral, just cowards. However, that does not mean all morality is cowardice. Square is a rectangle but not vice versa. True morality is believing there is something intrinsically wrong with a certain action and refusing to do that due to inner strength and belief rather than fear of outer punishment. Basically, you're right about some people. Its just that you wrongly extrapolate those cases to all morality.

@@newgenleaders5536 absolutely

I think there is one. Somewhere.

@@Noor-jw2tn I wish. Dont give false expectations my friend!

@@FastAkira excuse me I saw something yesterday. Im just looking for it now, unless it was click bait.

@@FastAkira and I'll have you not include me as your friend...thanks.

That's exactly it.

Buddhism strays away from the extremes of nihilism and eternalism. It is called the Middle Way. Great lecture but this point is wrong.

There are the Lesser, Greater, and Diamond Vehicles of Buddhism. Myanmar follows the first vehicle which focuses on personal liberation as opposed to the altruistic motivation to liberate and enlighten all sentient beings. How many Buddhists meditate daily? How many Christians pray daily? A very small percentage of any population who claims to have a religion are actually followers. The flaming monk was a protest as the then government tried to impose Catholicism with one brother the head of government and the other brother the head of church. The Americans actually interfered to help the Buddhists with all the consequent events. I am not sure about the purity of the motives of the American government, but it is a strange one if not a sincere one. I think it was sincere.

??????@Snaggle Toothed

This video is a short clip of a video from this playlist: kzfaq.info/sun/PL22J3VaeABQAT-0aSPq-OKOpQlHyR4k5h But I don't know which one of those videos this clip was taken from. It's a lot of material to look through.

@@ape1821 You are correct that Buddhism exalts the middle way, but it seems to couch actions in extremes in the translations I have read. Regarding suffering, both Jordan and Buddhism seem to see it as inescapable although we have some say in the details.

So is Buddhism.

@@stephenlacher5460 Or maybe there is deep wisdom and meaning embedded in the universe that another teaching will spawn to show human kind how to live properly.

@@Morafak nah. We already got that laid out by Christ and his Church.

Wait.... It didn't mean a sewing needle? I know sewing needles weren't trending in biblical times but those needleholes are tiny

TWX Established it makes more sense with andres claim. Because if the camel had a hard time entering the eye of the needle it would require the camel to be able, with difficulty, to do so. But the way I’ve always imagined it as a sewing needle made it so that it was impossible for the camel to enter the eye of the needle and therefore impossible for the rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Nice insight.

Brent Carroll The position of the camel would have to be one of humility... head hanging low, crawling on his knees. Likewise it is possible for a rich person to come to heaven, but it requires the same degree of humility the camel displays.

@@kevinpeach8129 By King James's time, when the first non-latin translation of the bible was made, there were in existence sewing needles.

The eye of the needle was a "single wide" entrance usually for after dark, beside the main gate, so travellers could come and go but attacks wouldn't be effective. A camel could shuffle through after *removing its burdensome bags of valuables*. So you can enter as a rich man, but not with all the riches which make you too BIG to accomplish the "strait and narrow".

Uilium Powell true

Uilium Powell, I like yer beard, it makes you look wise.

Do tell

If your idea of enlightenment was going to enlighten you it would have done so already

There is no attachment To enlightenment.

spiralsone yup couldn’t agree more. Might as well binge-watch Disney versions of fairytales. There’s way more substance.

I love her fictional works, but it helps if you see her characters as archetypical. The stories then take on a mythological epic kind of quality that I find very enjoyable.

Read 'Anthem' first and you'll see how you will not want 'Atlas Shrugged' to ever end.

Funposting was a necessary experience.

meme culture shrinks your brain

Unfortunately, yet actually fortunately, yes

Or just control it a way it has meaning

@Revolvin Goatt one year later I agree with you I didn't bro I doubled down on it lnfao

2 days today! Im close to three days clean in a couple hours.

@@jamesgang4433 awesome!!! Just take it one day at a time...remember it's all OK as long as you just_ don't _drink_! You don't have to do 'it' perfectly. Please know that you are Loved ♡♡♡♡

If it’s God will and we follow it!

@Vorname Nachname that quote about God helping those who help themselves is not in the Bible. Scriptures says God helps those who trust in Him.

MrChiliburger pick one

@MrChiliburger There is only one God with a capital "G" !