I'm a Massey Ferguson guy. Wes you nailed it. Pure an simple. AGCO bought out Massey Hesston & a slew of others. Now look at original equipment vs AGCO equipment. World's apart. Thick metal vs tin can. Appreciate your input and your honest opinion Wes.

Thank you for offering REAL reviews of farm equipment - we need more of these honest reviews, than the company/dealer sponsored videos showing only the "good parts" of equipment that are taking over on KZfaq.

Man... That's what I like about OLF, not afraid to tell it like it is. No need to worry about sugar coating. lol.

Only place your equipment recommendations go off the rails is in application. Other farmers can have wildly different applications, budgets, field conditions, customer demands, etc that make the equipment you would generally recommend very wrong for someone else. These is no single piece of equipment that's right for everyone. Absolutely appreciate your extremely opinionated perspective though. Not all of it I'd agree with, but its way better to have an opinion and put it out there than have nothing to say.

its nice to hear some one with a honest opinion

I believe that the old non DPF equipment will be problem free longer because they get rid of all that heat vs. holding it on the engine.

I sell farm equipment myself as a career, and also represent some of the manufacturers you showcase on your channel. If I don't hear about what problems you or other farmers have with gear, either if they are minor gripes, or full blown POS's, I will not know what to tell the manufacturers and tell them "i lost the deal because of...". So again, Wes, thanks for keeping us all informed. too many people now a days react on feelings, rather than facts or personal opinions.

Wes,I enjoy your opinion,spot on as far as I'm concerned. If people don't like it,they can piss up a rope.

tell it like it is .... even if you are paid .. honesty is the best way

The information you provide is important to farmers. Demand dictates change...go get em. May the rain fall right on plan. Good luck on 2nd crop.

Love the snow scene ! Tell it like it is, THATS why I watch your videos!!!!!!!!!

that is exactly one of the big reasons I like your channel wes you speak your mind and don't sugar coat a thing please KEEP IT UP.....

I had no idea that anybody made hay with snow on it. Unthinkable here in Indiana.

these videos are always excellent talking about everyone else's feeling

Tell it like it is Wes. thumbs up.

another great video Wes and congrats on reaching 80k subscribers...that silver play button is almost there!

Could you do a video of all your mowers mowing the same field at the same time? That would be a pretty awesome sight to see I would think, not sure how practical it would be. You'd know better than me. Awesome video as always.

Would you buy another 2008 case or nh if you found one with low hours?

Wes I have been following your videos since you came over to England and met The Legend and George and your videos are brilliant and you say it as it is,keep em coming.

I used to work for an agco dealer and had many custom operators running the 9870 Massey swathers and had very few problems with them would out perform the Deere or new Holland swathers running in alfalfa, crp grass,forage sorghum that was 15ft tall and very thick running 7-10mph in that stuff. Now I'm not saying the machines you have are crap in any way and very one has there own opinion on things I fully understand that but you don't know the true test to a swather until you run one in 15ft tall and thick forage sorghum. and by the way I fully support you in what you do👍👍

G'day Wes, love your videos keep up the great work.

nice vid Wes keep em coming

thats why your one of the best farming related youtubers out there you tell it as you you see it great video thanks wes

John Deere does to give you something! A monthly bill!

The only Massey product I care for is the model 275 and 1155 tractor from the 70's that my grandfather farmed with. Those were good tractors. Tough as a tank. I remember working many hours on the 275 raking hay. When it came to harvest the 1155 would pull an old versatile pull type combine. Even the 275 could pull that combine no problem. They just don't make good stuff like they used to Wes.

Chucke2009 gave you a nice plug in today's video Keep the videos coming

My New Holland disk mower was actually made by a French company called "Kuhn." I can get parts for it at the Case dealer or the JD dealer, because many of their disc mowers were made by Kuhn also (or if I want to get really creative, I can get parts at a Kuhn dealer). One of my CASE tractors was made by David Brown, who started out in partnership with Harry Ferguson (It was Ferguson Brown long before it was Massey Ferguson). Parts for it are common to CASE, DB and Massey Ferguson. Thing is, these relationships change every few years, so in order to figure out who actually made what, you have to know what year it was made and track it through the supply line. That's one of the things that make the red vs blue vs green vs orange tractor rivalry so amusing.

How many properties do you mow, and how do you keep track of them, and the finances of it all?

Great video Wes

I enjoy your videos very much. You are right on. You made many good points pro and con about the MF mower. You are partial to John Deere and I to CaseIH. So be it, I respect your opinions. You have to select equipment that will meet your farming operation and expectations that will increase profitablility. Obviously the MF mower doesn't. Keep up the good work and I hope you have a successful and profitable hay crop in 2017.

pull types also start to hurt your neck after a while because you are constantly looking back. Also great video.

I could care less if you were payed for endorsements. I feel that you tell things like they are regardless of any benefit to you. I enjoy your videos and the opinions expressed. I would like to see longer videos but beggars can't be choosy. Best to you and your family.

5000 acres is the equivalent of cutting a 1 meter wide strip of grass from the north pole to the south pole ,

it boils down to this its your money you buy what you want or can afford i personly like john deere i have grown up with deere but i do have a couple differnt machines other than deere it was convient to get at the time when needed

Wes I love Massey Ferguson. I also like living. I also like Deere. I never operated a piece of agriculture equipment from the twenty first century of any brand. I'm not butt hurt over your comment about the Massey mower. I'm grateful for your insights in a industry I maybe going into I'm still gonna buy Massey tractors but definitely not mowers (before your revise came out I heard bad things about it just didn't know how bad it was) anyway thanks for all you do your a lendgend in your time

At the start of the video you said it perfectly,thanks for making my day.

great video Wes have a great day

Do people still not realize CNH is all one company?

Enjoyed your video as always Wes.

love your vids keep up the work

In 1927, IH became the first company to offer swathers for sale.

i enjoy all your videos, you tell it like it is.

Every brand has their good and bad points. Doesn't matter if it's JD vs. CNH vs. AGCO or Ford vs. GM vs. Ram. Whatever you're looking at, here will be pros and cons. Sometimes they really get it right, other times you get a real dud and it all depends on your application and expectations. Doesn't matter if you're talking farm equipment, trucks, washing machines, stamping presses, or cordless power tools.

Good on you buddy. Hope you have a nice day too😀

Your opinions are appreciated by the hard working folks that rarely get the chance to comment. All machines have their good and bad points and certainly there are always lemons produced by all manufacturers.

You're videos are amazing haha :D

1:00 yep. if they start at once they are painted bleu, and red if it takes longer to go.

will you ever replace the bale wagon or the 7410 as needed??????????

I like that John Deere windrower but I would love to own that case W2303 windrower if I was into hay production.

Okay Wes tell us how you really feel! Your operation is of a nature that pushes the limits of the equipment, not that you're abusing it but you're definitely finding what limits are and sometimes the manufacturers are finding out the limits aren't where they thought they were. It would appear some manufacturers have decided that if they can make a piece of equipment that stands up in your operation they know they have a production ready equipment. I have watched your relationship with Khrone/Messick's with interest, I think both organizations learned a lot quickly. In the long run your video documentation of the performance of your Khrone baler is something of value to Khrone. It would appear that if they keep your baler running well they are getting more advertising than what they could buy, but some of that value also comes with some worts as you are also showing ny weak spots in the equipment.

I have a International and a Long and love them both, I had a John deer and it was in the shop more than in the field, I hated it and damn near gave it away to get it off my farm!

Everyone is aloud an option and I like case ih but it doesn't mean I wouldn't go with other brands because the all have the place this has nothing to do with tractor brands but I found cheap silver line drill bits can be better then some Milwaukee bits you haft to shop around you will be suppressed sometimes.

No need to defend yourself. That's why I subscribed to your channel, Honest opinion, no punches pulled.

In my dealings with NH they only care about their equipment 'til the warranty is up.

nice one wes you tell them ,,,,,,,,,,,,, i love your vids keep them coming

I am a big massey fan and I love them, what you said about the heston massey was true when you compaired it to the jd it was much better layout!!!

Thumbs up bro

i enjoy your viedoes

most people dont realize Case Owns Newholland when i pay for my equipment its made out to CIH love the videos brother and i agree with everything you said

everyone has their own opinion on any equipment it's just the way it is wes.... keep up the great videos...

Anyone that doesn't think that Case and New Holland are the same should go to the Case/New Holland Manufacturing plant in Fargo, ND!

Wes have you still got the Cat loader?

You can use your drone to scout new acreage for hazards.

You work with these pieces of equipment all day all week so you know about them far more than us armchair bandits . Keep on farming my friend .

You should check out the MacDon windrowers John Deere actually gets them to build it for them the model M155 is nice you can turn the cab around to go 30 miles an hour to travel to the next field

Wes what the name of the video of u talking about Massy frug......

This is how it works I'm a mechanic. The same lines you see large name vehicles come from are the same as every other vehicle maker just large plots of shit. Some metal is better than others. Some metal rots less some rots more. Don't be surprised by the building line making the same product because they THE "ENGINEERS" BUILDER will chose AND NOT EVEN THE DESIGNER CHOOSES THE CHEAPEST LINE REGARDLESS OF THE PROPER WAY BEST WAY TO BUILD/ FABRICATE ITEMS.. IT WILL ALWAYS BE THE CHEAPEST EASIER WAY OUT. The USA has been sold..

Do ya still have the case?

pull type ARE more reliable than self propelled because less things that can go wrong, you can see things that are in the way etc. Sure self propelled are faster and more comfortable.

Companies need to spend time with people that use equipment and design it from there. Then after realeasing the new model take it to farmers and have them quality test it like Pequay. Get it right with real people and not a computer.

How about an OLF approval label for equipment that passes the test?

Love the snow

I used a Craftsman to cut my grass. Lasted near 20 years. That Case got nothing on Craftsman.

Don't worry about what the haters say, they never go away. Any update on the Cat 955?

One thing that most folks don't realize is what your showing on KZfaq in your videos is what you want folks to see and hopefully learn from. All these others that are having issues probably aren't going to show all the issues that they are having.

Please no more snow videos before December! Keep up the good work, minus the snow.

You can not understand the HEAT that comes off DEF systems till you are close to one in zero weather it can get hot hedge burning.

Case/IH and New Holland are both made by CNH Industry.

As a mechanic I see a lot of shit stuffed into a machine I just see major headaches.

Give em heck!

My question is: why do people have to be jerk neighbors and start conflicts? I had one from 1996 to 2003. Guy kept truss passing in our fenced yard, opened our shed more then once and looked inside. It was because of him we had to start locking or doors. from 1980 till 1996 we never locked our doors unless going out of town. Not even at night.

oh wait i am always first lol

I am more an AGCO guy than a CNH guy but I 99.99% agree with that review. AGCO shouldnt get butthurt about this.

CNH=CASE NEW HOLLAND. Hell go to Fargo,ND. You will see where they (CNH) build the articulated tractor's ie quad track's.

5500 acres. I don't think I've seen him in a field bigger than 50 acres so that's 100 different fields at a minimum. You would have to live in 1 baler to cover that ground

This is why I prefer the older equipment vs the new. They were a better design all the way around.

Thanks for great rant! That was an awesome piece about the snowflakes. LOL! At least I know why you aren't using a pull type mower. Vermeer is pushing their pull mowers very hard right now as the cure to end all ills.

You tell en chromedome , way to go

When you pay today's prices for equipment you have a right to bitch about short comings.

I am sick after looking at this snow hopefully that dosent come soon

did we forget about the 955

I never thought anything but.

still cant get over how the case works beder than the new Holland but a case with a new Holland header is way beder

So why don't you use triple mowers because they can mow at like 15 miles an hour and cut around 30 feet at a time

Wes you have Experience before opinion the best by far ! The offended dongs darn opinionated new guys have very little experience never got any good advise out of a sales brochure or a dong .

he gets a kick back from Napa. lol!

Sounds like if MF really wants to prove you wrong they need to get you their unit and let you run it this Year. If I was confident in my product and someone talked it down it would be a great chance to show how good mine really is. My Dad was a Logger many Years ago, at that time the options in Chain Saws was limited. He always ran the best Homelite or McColuch that they had to offer. Ran into a sales guy at a logging show and a Month later received a brand new Jonsereds to use free of charge for a Year to see what he thought of it. At the end of the Year he could return it or buy it at a reduced cost. We ended up being a dealer for them! Granted the cost of these mowers is much higher but if MF really is upset they should give you the chance to run theirs and prove you wrong!

that's the same people that think gm and chevy are not the the same. lol

Also, just like both you and Ryan said, YOU show US what you want. Ryan was saying yesterday that he had other things that he was doing that will NEVER be on here.....

Hay old new holland hay bine has cracked welds