Do we need Islam to be moral? | Hamza Tzortzis
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Күн бұрынA new episode of Destroying Doubts featuring Hamza Andreas Tzortzis.
What are your morals? A key contention against Islam is the seeming misalignment between the morals of Islam and the modern day. This stretches from the 'hudud' laws, Islam's rulings for women and it’s intolerance towards homosexuality.
Is Islam immoral and out of touch with modernity? More fundamentally, how do we, as a society, form morals? Why should one moral claim be taken over another conflicting moral claim? This is at the heart of today’s conversations between the religious and the secular world.
To help us assess this, we are joined by Hamza Tzortzis who is the founder of Sapience Institute which aspires to elevate Islamic discourse through deep intellectual engagement with foundational values of compassion, truth and tolerance. He is a writer, researcher, public speaker and is currently completing his PhD in Philosophy.
00:00 - Introduction
01:44 - What is Ethics?
03:35 - What is the relevance of Ethics today?
11:57 - Is Islam Ethical?
23:35 - Which ethical theory is mainstream in the west?
42:39 - How do these theories compare with Islam?
51:20 - What role does God play in the discussion of Ethics?
56:00 - Is something good because God commands it or vice versa
1:06:00 - Does legal and moral reasoning differ in Islam
1:24:00 - How is Islamic law morally superior?
1:32:37 - How was the Prophet's marriage to Aisha moral?
1:50:00 - Conclusion
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@OnePathNetwork Жыл бұрын
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@halden658 Жыл бұрын
Add subtitles please
@Dark.eveything Жыл бұрын
Can we use part of your clips in making yt videos?
@shamsheerg7519 Жыл бұрын
Is it ethical to own slaves? Other human beings.
@Lisa-rn9tp 7 ай бұрын
I'm not watching all that.
@RsZ789 Жыл бұрын
I love you brothers for Allah's sake!
@mrdipu9092 Жыл бұрын
Ohh! Hamza Tzorzis here in One Path Network - Australia? I have not watch the full podcast yet; But definitely it gonna increase my Iman 🕋❤️
@shamsheerg7519 Жыл бұрын
Is it ethical to own slaves? Other human beings.
@fayhaeelmarrakchi Жыл бұрын
Masha'allah...a very catching discussion
@hibatuadam2777 Жыл бұрын
I love Hamza for the sake of Allah 😊may Allah bless this team and him for this lovely episode
@shamsheerg7519 Жыл бұрын
Is it ethical to own slaves? Other human beings.
@abdemouaouia8396 8 ай бұрын
@@shamsheerg7519If you treat them like human beings and give them what they need like Islam says it's indeed ethical slavery in Islam is not like that of France or the United Kingdom(former British Empire) and Belgium with Leopold II go learn about the religion first Peace ✌️
@shamsheerg7519 8 ай бұрын
@@abdemouaouia8396 is cutting the testes of a man off ethical?? Islam is a failure all around the world. I bet you are living in the west?
@shamsheerg7519 8 ай бұрын
@@abdemouaouia8396 is forced intercourse with your slaves ethical???
@shamsheerg7519 8 ай бұрын
@@abdemouaouia8396 islam continúes slavery… Islam is a giant failure all over the world. Just look! Islam has produced rotten fruit for 1400 years.
@arakibhosen434 Жыл бұрын
ALHAMDULILLAH FOR ISLAM ❤️ Allah bless you all ❤️ JAJAKALLA KHIRAN ❤️
@MuslimHomeschoolersUnite Жыл бұрын
Yes, we need religion. A moral people is the goal and religion is the best support for morality.
@enlightenedvagabond3556 Жыл бұрын
Kill apostates? Like your pedo prophet said
@indophobichunter8108 Жыл бұрын
There are relegions better than islam
@sajid279 Жыл бұрын
@@indophobichunter8108 Mention please...
@indophobichunter8108 Жыл бұрын
@@sajid279 Christianity, Buddhism, atheism(not a relegion),deism
@sajid279 Жыл бұрын
@@indophobichunter8108 Buddhism too is athiesm... If you think buddha was right go to a mountain and decay there because according to him there is no purpose of life..its better to sit motionless to not kill germs and bacteria... Its that foolish.. At the other hand islam says everything was created for humans as resource for luxury but to show gratitude to Allah at the same time..and use those resources to help those in need... If everyone went on the path of Buddha and became chaste entire life ..human race will end.. Its islam where ascetism(hijab, beard,modest clothes) and strict discipline along with accepting other human basic desires under a bounded law exists.. This is the only way bro.. And christianity and athiesm..😂😂😂😚😚🤣🤣
@RealElites Жыл бұрын
Proud of Hamza being our brother, May Allah protect him and keep him firm and continually benefiting the Ummah
@shamsheerg7519 Жыл бұрын
Is it ethical to own slaves? Other human beings.
@MuslimMama Жыл бұрын
MashAllah. Jazakum Allah khair
@MuslimXSempai Жыл бұрын
OOOF didn't notice this was uploaded. Weekends just ended and now I have to wait for next weekends -___-
@IbnThabitVerlag Жыл бұрын
Allahumma barik never been so early!!! So excited for this! Barakallahu feekum
@mohamedali2858 Жыл бұрын
Surrendering over to revelation is not a disruption of the mind, but an exaltation to the Creator of the mind. The mind maker knows what he has done, and how many minds choose for themselves at the beginning of their life what they regret at the end.
@haywardjeblomey6505 Жыл бұрын
No, it's accepting a lie at face value because you were forced to. You were never given the choice to believe if Allah is a real god, you were commanded to have that belief at the pain of certain death. A real god wouldn't need people to superstitiously believe he exists. A real person is present in the universe wherever they happen to be standing. An imaginary friend can't stand anywhere, so nobody can ever see him.
@mohamedali2858 Жыл бұрын
@@haywardjeblomey6505 I was born a Muslim, thank God, and I grew up with friends of several religions, and even I met an athist, I couldn't find a better conviction than what I was born in. The Creator did not create us and leave us in this world to divide between theories, doubts and opinions. Rather, he showed us the basic outlines and rules and set us absolute truths on which to base our worship, understanding, and behavior. If you see things confused and you don’t see the universe and religion as absolute facts that’s your problem. The truth & religion exists and therefore it will be held accountable. Even the phrase there is no absolute right destroys itself. If you think there is no absolute right, then your belief - the absence of an absolute right - comes out of being an absolute right that you invoke us to be just an opinion that you cannot oblige anyone to! It's like arguing that a white sofa is better than black! Just an opinion and a taste that requires no one else!
@haywardjeblomey6505 Жыл бұрын
@@mohamedali2858 Allah is an imaginary character. He is not responsible for anything. The man who invented him or repurposed him for Arabs was a mass murderer and a child r***ist. There is no morality from someone like that, only oppression. The lies that Mohammed told continue to dominate the innocent and reduce the rights of humans worldwide. It is a growing threat to peace and stability, and can not lead us into the future. It commands you to accept a lie from the ancient past, so it is not a real authority on anything. Your imaginary friend is so powerless that I can call him imaginary and he can't lift a finger to argue otherwise. Imaginary friends can't do things that real people can do, such as typing a sentence. I can type anything I want, and your imaginary friend can't do anything about it. I can call Allah a half-breed ninja turtle, and he will always remain silent and absent.
@mohamedali2858 Жыл бұрын
@@haywardjeblomey6505 “dominate the innocent and reduce the rights of humans worldwide. It is a growing threat to peace and stability, & same time its imaginary friend…..what a superpower imaginary friend Please make your argument more credible and rational, don't be a moron. Most studies in the 21st century show that in terms of percentage and global reach, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world…… This is a fact that you accept or you have to die angry and sad.
@haywardjeblomey6505 Жыл бұрын
@@mohamedali2858 I don't care if it spreads quickly, it does so with threats of violence, which means none of it is worth listening to. You have an imaginary friend, which is a very big problem for you and the society you live in. You need to outgrow the childish nonsense and act like a real man. You have never known what it is to be a man because someone abused you into complying with child rape. That's unacceptable, and you know better. Don't defend beliefs that are not based in reality, and don't defend murdering rapists.
@idk22283 Жыл бұрын
Jazhallah khair this removed some doubts I had, and it educated me more ❤❤❤
@DOPEFURNITURE Жыл бұрын
Beautiful content Manshallah 😍
@mohammadsaadnadeem5924 Жыл бұрын
Yes we need Religion
@muhammadh7874 Жыл бұрын
very true Mohammad
@haywardjeblomey6505 Жыл бұрын
We don't need any kind of religion for anything. Religion, especially Islam, is fraud. In the case of this religion, it is brainwashing at the tip of a sword. You are dominated by the clergy and taught that your "prophet" can do no wrong, when in reality he harmed a child in the worst possible way, making him the opposite of a role model. Your beliefs don't come from a supernatural being, they are the lies of a desert cave bum who didn't know right from wrong. He was a mass murderer, and a grown man should know better than to listen to anything he has to say.
@muhammadh7874 Жыл бұрын
@@haywardjeblomey6505 cope.
@haywardjeblomey6505 Жыл бұрын
@@muhammadh7874 You are the delusional one. You literally believe in the same magic that a 6 year old makes up. You don't have magical powers or magical body parts. You are a delusional human with regular human abilities. Your imaginary friend doesn't empower you, it hinders your ability to see reality on reality's terms.
@super9ova Жыл бұрын
Really love Hamza Tzortis's development. His entire approach, thought process, conveying of message has really developed.
@youneverknew_me Жыл бұрын
What a gem!
@kashifjp Жыл бұрын
As always the logical answer by brother Hamza Tzortzis
@shamsheerg7519 Жыл бұрын
Is it ethical to own slaves? Other human beings.
@Bulloo_beat Жыл бұрын
MashaAllah brothers in Islam. Even though the terminologies that was used in your discussion is beyond my understanding. But hey alhamdulillah I think I loved it all. 😊
@shamsheerg7519 Жыл бұрын
Is it ethical to own slaves? Other human beings.
@sword-master Жыл бұрын
MashAllah great podcast
@_f_ Жыл бұрын
thank you
@shamsbangash2090 Жыл бұрын
جزاك اللهُ خیر
@shamsheerg7519 Жыл бұрын
Is it ethical to own slaves? Other human beings.
@hasanimtiyaz2511 Жыл бұрын
On 14:27 timelapse why was Hamza saying the Allah swt is lord and we are master i am kinda confused but mashallah a really informative video
@mickokadic Жыл бұрын
Barakallahu feek
@_f_ Жыл бұрын
Ma Shah Allah
@LatheefDubai Жыл бұрын
Only Islam will save us
@MuhammadHassan200 Жыл бұрын
ASSALAMUALAIKUM brother, a well needed clip as I was struggling to answer this to some people.
@shamsheerg7519 Жыл бұрын
Is it ethical to own slaves? Other human beings.
@MuhammadHassan200 Жыл бұрын
@@shamsheerg7519 why is it not ?
@shamsheerg7519 Жыл бұрын
@@MuhammadHassan200 the owning of human beings is an affront to God. If all people are born Muslims, then you are justifying the enslavement of Muslims. Also, if I need to make any point to the depravity of slavery then YOU are morally bankrupt and your cult is from the devil.
@shamsheerg7519 Жыл бұрын
@@MuhammadHassan200 why the Jews in Israel kicked Arab asses? You cannot even fight the zionists. Allah is a dog.
@shamsheerg7519 Жыл бұрын
@@MuhammadHassan200 so Muslims like you think that owning other people is a good thing. Islam is a backward cult and you are proof.
@halden658 Жыл бұрын
Please add subtitles
@iyibros7770 Жыл бұрын
1:03:00 subhanallah
@differentangle7666 Жыл бұрын
This video should have subtitle
@RayOfHope8 Жыл бұрын
Where are you watching From?
@MohammedSham Жыл бұрын
❤
@shamsheerg7519 Жыл бұрын
Is it ethical to own slaves? Other human beings.
@schoeneswort Жыл бұрын
BarakAllahu feek from Austria not Australia😄
@Abul_kutub Жыл бұрын
Platos dilemma 56:00
@rafayshakeel4812 Жыл бұрын
Short answer: _YES._ Objective morality can only come from Allah (سبحانه و تعالى).
@haywardjeblomey6505 Жыл бұрын
Allah is an imaginary character. Morality cannot be objective, and it never has. It depends entirely on which society you belong to. You are not allowed to marry a child in USA, but in Islamic countries, it's totally ok because Mohammed did it. The belief that a child destroyer can do no wrong is a dangerous superstition that gives you permission to wreak havoc on others.
@sajid279 Жыл бұрын
Legislation belongs only to Allah
@haywardjeblomey6505 Жыл бұрын
@@sajid279 Allah is imaginary. Legislation should be made by elected representatives in a secular manner. Islam is a fraud, and you are one of its many victims. It is a threat to freedom on every front. Laws shouldn't come from a liar, they should be voted on by the entire society.
@sajid279 Жыл бұрын
@@haywardjeblomey6505 If the majority in society tomorrow starts enjoying a wrong activity such as incest and they make laws making it legal..because they think its okay with consent to have physical relation with mothers and daughters and sisters... Addiction and emotions can cause serious biases in human decision... Humans can be manupulated to take a decision by bulllionaires and govts by media and entertainment industries just because their interest in power or money.. Then thats hell ..live on earth... Allah is the truth.. May you understand
@sajid279 Жыл бұрын
@@haywardjeblomey6505 The truth is no can ever be honest to you about right and wrong other than God... As everyone has biases due to emotions, addictions etc by which they lie to themselves about a wrong thing to be right so as to feel comfirtable and silence an internal conflict
@abidtusher5521 Жыл бұрын
Wa Alaikumus Salam wa Rahmatullah wa barakatuhu SubahanAllah Alhamdulillah la ilaha illallahu Allahu Akbar JajakAllah
@RR-us2kp Жыл бұрын
Do we need religion? Simple answer. Nope. We don't need any religion. All it does is separate people. Never unite.
@10857 Жыл бұрын
Practical answer is No
@albm706 Жыл бұрын
Dear Brother, We see that the Sunnis, Shias, Salafis, Sufis etc include the name 'muhammad' in their shahada, in the adzaan (call to prayer) and they also place the name muhammad on the wall inside their home and inside their masjid or mosque. The Shia people also include the name of Ali in their incantations. I have a question. But first please refer these two verses from the Quran: Surah al Zumar verse 45 "And when Allah alone is mentioned, the hearts of those who do not believe in the hereafter shrink, and when those besides Him are mentioned, lo! they are joyful." Surah al Jinn verse 18 "And that the mosques belong to Allah, therefore do not call upon any one with Allah" In Surah az Zumar verse 45 it says "zik-krillahi wahdahu" which means 'Allah alone is mentioned / remembered'. In surah Jinn verse 18 it says "laa tad'u ma' allah ahadan" which means "do not call upon anyone with Allah" From these two verses it is very clear that Muslims should not call upon or mention anyone other than Allah, especially in the masjid or mosques. You may say that you mention the name 'muhammad' in the shahada and in the adzaan or call to prayer not as an act of worship but just out of respect, regard and love for the Rasul. But at the same time if you do not mention the name 'muhammad' in the adzaan and in the Shahada then your worship to Allah swt becomes null and void. The worship of Allah swt is therefore dependent on you mentioning names other than Allah (like muhammad) in your shahada and adzaan. Your heart may shrink with aversion when you hear that you should not mention muhammad in the shahada and in the adzaan. Your heart may become joyful if you hear that it is alright to mention the name muhammad in the shahada, in the adzaan and to place the name muhammad beside Allah in your homes and masjids. May I get your comment. Thank you and salam.
@shamsheerg7519 Жыл бұрын
Is it ethical to own slaves? Other human beings.
@albm706 Жыл бұрын
@@shamsheerg7519 There is absolutely no slavery in the Quran and hence in Islam. All the Rasuls wer sent to free humans from slavery. The biggest example is Musa or Moses who was sent to free the Bani Israel from the slavery of Firaun or Pharaoh. Each time slaves (raqab) are mentioned in the Quran the words "free the slaves" are also mentioned. 4:92 This one verse alone mentions freeing the slaves three times: i. atone by freeing a believing slave ii. atone by freeing a believing slave and iii. freeing a believing slave. 5:89 atone by freeing a slave 58:3 atone by freeing a slave 90:13 The freeing of slaves. Slavery is a Biblical idea which the mullahs have stolen from the Jewish and Christian teachings. [Lev 25:46.20] You may bequeath them to your sons after you, to inherit as apossession for ever; you may make slaves of them, but over your brethren the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another, with harshness. This is not unlike Malik’s suggestion in his book the Al Muwatta. The Bible also has more suggestions on what to do with slaves [Lev 25:44.18] As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are round about you. There is no slavery in the Quran. But there is plenty of slavery in the hadith which are not only all false but they are plagiarised from the Jewish and christian Bibles.
@alphae9712 Жыл бұрын
Life without Islam is no life.
@enlightenedvagabond3556 Жыл бұрын
Life with Islam is no life
@sajid279 Жыл бұрын
@@enlightenedvagabond3556 😂😂says a blind victim of consumerism ....each day eat and sleep no greater purpose of life just to serve the industrialists/billionaires and die...
@enlightenedvagabond3556 Жыл бұрын
@@sajid279 you gave no idea what you are talking about. I am far above such dunyism. In fact, your Islam is part of the dunya. You have no higher purpose then slaving away for your made up god so you can receive infinite hedonism in heaven. Pathetic
@sajid279 Жыл бұрын
@@enlightenedvagabond3556 So you desire in this world pleasure..we restrain our evil desires for reward in next life...thats more better...you can keep lying yourself...
@enlightenedvagabond3556 Жыл бұрын
@@sajid279 you want pleasure, you do all your “good deeds” in order to be rewarded, like a child. Altruism doesn’t exist in Islam, it is not truly good. Pathetic.
@RayOfHope8 Жыл бұрын
❤️❤️❤️🌹🌹🌹🌹
@rakindhali4840 Жыл бұрын
Please take care of Bangladeshi community and add bangla caption. Allah reward u so big insahallah❤️❤️❤️🇧🇩🇧🇩🇧🇩
@JohnnieWalkerGreen Жыл бұрын
1:17:08 -- Are you sure? This issue needs more elaboration. First, never assume that seniors would like to live with their children! What if they prefer to be let alone? What if they "think" that they can take care of themselves? See also "The Iron Lady" movie. Second, they might need a "professional" listener whose sole job is to listen again and again to the same stories. Last, the solution is not to send them to an "Auschwitz" nursing home, obviously!
@steveford1070 Жыл бұрын
Everywhere Islam permeates turns to hell on earth
@zariftahmid9854 Жыл бұрын
That's not true. Look at stats bro. One of the peaceful community is the Muslim community. Btw im an atheist so i don’t gonna lie about Muslims
@Rog5446 Жыл бұрын
I've heard one of these so called scholars say the sun revolves around the Earth. Just like most religions, this modesty thing is all about sexual repression. Read Freud.
@HAltaf96 Жыл бұрын
What is bad about sexual repression? "This fitness thing is all about eating repression".... Think
@Rog5446 Жыл бұрын
@@HAltaf96 It's unnatural, that's what's bad about it. Don't understand your fitness comment???
@broskibros1229 Жыл бұрын
You do know that we don't know that the earth revolves around the sun right? It's a theory and it's not proven to be true just like what causes gravity. I don't ascribe to geocentrism but I'm not saying it's completely false either. Read on the philosophy of science it's really interesting actually
@Rog5446 Жыл бұрын
@@broskibros1229 We don't know? It's just a theory? So all those astronomers, astrophysicists and cosmologists that teach in the top universities in the world don't know? Then how did such professors get their PhDs and Nobel laureates? You do know that there have been hundreds of unmanned space programmes such as the current James Webb telescope that could not have worked if the solar system was not Heliocentric?
@broskibros1229 Жыл бұрын
@@Rog5446 read about the philosophy of science. for example, the geocentric model was just as good at the heliocentric model at predicting where planets will be. But why did we choose the heliocentric model over the geocentric? Because we used Occams Razor. This could also go into the discussion of realism vs instrumentalism in the philosophy of science but basically it's impossible to prove that this solar system is heliocentric. The astronomers that teach the heliocentric model haven't studied the philosophy of science. Trust me, I used to believe just like you that science gave us truth but after reading books on the philosophy of science, I learned that we are very unsure about how our universe works and all these 'natural laws' are not 'laws' but they are patterns that we have observed and we don't know why they happen but we have theories, however we will never be able to find the true cause. Like for example, we will never know what causes gravity .
@gracehunter6279 Жыл бұрын
John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life Romans 10:9 “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved
@shamsheerg7519 Жыл бұрын
Is it ethical to own slaves? Other human beings.
@shamsheerg7519 Жыл бұрын
You bring up the slavery movement in USA... Is slavery inherently wrong? Human chattel slavery.
@atlaslion.5869 Жыл бұрын
Too complcliated i got tired after 5 min.
@sasdoku4291 Жыл бұрын
Islam for moral!? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👌 Good joke!!!👏👏👏🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@sajid279 Жыл бұрын
Where do you derive your morality...that dont change according to your emotions and desires
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