Does it have display out?

Giztop has better price, and no customs duties.

​@@digitbuyno giztop sucks i bought xiaomi 14 pro it was defective i need to to send it back payed 65 euros for sending back and only received a partial refund on the device i basically lost around 170 euros. Because of receiving a faulty product giztop has no responsibility and dont do the things they say they would on their website like refund shipping cost if received a defective device receive a full device refund. I got to pay out of my own pocket because of them. If nothing goes wrong than its great i guess but if something goes wrong and you are located in europe i recommend tradingshenzhen they have repair center in germany poland and austria

wondamobile for pretty much the same you can get 16gb/512gb , Im waiting till global release so these start selling them with Oxygen rom : )

wondamobile even better :) ​@@digitbuy

Same, it's a fantastic phone!

Great smartphone, 3 years later and still work almost like brand new. It's a shame that software support ends this year.

Do we get android 14? Has it been announced?

7t pro here still 😅

@@MrBarbuneIce7 Pro here! heheh

Still what I use to this day.

Me too, OnePlus 7 Pro all the way!

Hahaha the one of the best phones. HTC Desire HD. HTC M7. Oneplus 2 5 7pro. Huawei mate 7 8 9 P9 P10 LG G3 Sony Xperia Z Nexus I9250 Samsung Note Edge Note 4 Note 5 9 Xiaomi 11 Ultra 12 Pro 13 Ultra

If you see i have stopped using oneplus since 7pro (of course I did buy 8pro 9pro. But everyone knows).. I have switched to xiaomi since then. Hopefully my next phone could be oneplus flagship 13.

@@imroronoazoro meanwhile im switching away from xiaomi because all my xiaomi's break in 2 years

Sorry I forgot that in the video

Much appreciated

Great point, I often meantion to others to also look at 2 year old flagships in good condition is a very nice option. As you have stated here they offer almost the same not much has changed.

The whole deal with older phones is to get them used. Why pay... full price for an old phone? X2 is ancient. Oppo still can't really do processing, and back then were barely above Xiaomi. S20 Ultra was available in good condition for 300 eur for at least a year. I helped a person buy P40 Pro in perfect condition for 200 eur just recently. For 400+eur I could've hunted for S22 Ultra at this point, because S21 Ultra even 256GB models were around 400 eur for the last year. And that's for a relatively podunk place(Naples, Italy). Any big city would have a much better used phone selection. Even though phones have indeed somewhat stagnated since 2020(realistically after the camera trifecta revolution of 2019, but 2020 cemented it) - the processing power(especially if you use the phone the right way - with power saving on), the camera hardware and software, RAM and storage - have all improved. Heck, it's not like you are talking about an SD card(which S20 Ultra still had) or SD+headphone jack(that would require a 2019 phone). It is your money and your choice, and 865-870 was indeed the last optimal Snapdragon in terms of performance and power efficiency and manufacturing. However, it is ancient. Even if modern chips throttle by 20% at minimum(it's not like 865 was throttle free entirely) - they are more than twice as fast in almost every regard. From CPU performance that covers EIS and camera processing(better encoding, less judder) to GPU that is approaching PS4 Pro levels of performance to any NPU\AI acceleration that is only going to be more useful as software pool grows. There's a reason why apple is advertising straight up Death Stranding and the likes, with RT to boot - on a PHONE. Though I have to admit that your choice is still better than my friend's who was really adamant about getting Poco F5 just for its SD7g2+ and global ROM. Even though he had it for 300 eur. At least you are getting SOME cameras.

Thanks for taking the time to share your perspective. You make solid arguments, for sure. However, in response to each; I did not pay full price for my Find X2 Pro (€330 to be exact) and it is brand new (12+256)! The full price at its time was €1200. The S20 series was definitely on my radar, however, I could not get any model in a new condition (which was a big deal for me). Regarding the improvements that u mentioned. I briefly used the S21 & 22 & 23 & OnePlus 11, & I believe the S20 series & Find 2 series wipe the flour with the newer models in terms of build and sturdiness & even design in my opinion. As for Software, I most certainly choose Oppo in no small part for the software coherence and features like external Icon pack support & more mature-looking essential apps (phone, messages, … etc). Regarding the remaining hardware, you mentioned. I genuinely challenge you to do a speed test between an 865 phone and an 870/888/8-gen1/ 8+ gen1 & heck even the mighty 8-gen2. Let me know If you can find any differences, to attribute to RAM being LPDDR4 instead of LPDDR4X or storage being UFS 3.0 rather than 3.1. I run G-Impact at 60+ fps for hours on end, with no throttling whatsoever, let's see the 8-gen1 take it for just an hour. I wouldn't dispute your point regarding cameras. However, as I have mentioned, with an appropriate Google camera app and add-ons you would get very solid results with any decent lens system. I don't see any game developer utilizing this so-called PS4-like graphics power, and If you watch Geekerwan's processor analysis video, you would conclude that Android games are mostly CPU-heavy games, and not much has changed since the Adreno 630(SD-845). Apple Silicon is a different game altogether, and I believe they can reach the heights they claim. Also, Xiaomi can never touch any of the BBK electronics brands. OnePlus, on its worst day, would destroy Xiaomi. Although, they did a good job with the 13/14 series to be completely fair. @@WirxawTanev

Challenge accepted. Red Magic 8 Pro demolishes the 865 by miles in intensive and gaming tasks no matter what phone uses it including previous of the same brand.

@@DivineSword1 I assumed that 500$ was mentioned for a reason. That is - that the price was 450 or so. My bad. And by full price I meant retail\clearance price. I won't dispute any software or icon or whatever, I don't customize. And I gave up on Genshin about 2 years ago. I can only compare results of, for example, 3DMark WildLife Extreme, if that one is free. I'll do mine in power saving mode, naturally, you can do yours in any mode, and we can compare the GPU result with my S22. Yes, it's synthetic, but it's representative, unlike Antutu. Otherwise... I'm glad that you enjoy the phone. For all intents and purposes, for 330$ that is definitely not a bad choice, even compared to the newest budget phones.

Thank you for the support over the years!

I hope so they have about a month to get it really for end of Jan global launch. Funny that after posting this review we got a new patch today!

Do we know if this will work properly on Verizon in the US? I know there's been issues with various networks in the past.

​@kyerbrandon if it's like the open it should work fine. Verizon is my main carrier.

Then they shouldn't advertise a brightness they aren't going to actually offer.

Thanks. As for the OnePlus 12R and the Redmi K70 no plans to buy those sorry.

@@Techtablets Never mind. Btw The Poco F6 is the same thing, Hope to see u do that. GL

It has to be something like this a tiny spot with HDR on but it's not something we can test it seems. Still main thing is I can see it in sunlight.

And that's the most important thing, not numbers. Thanks for another great video. @@Techtablets

Which is why I try not to get too caught up in the marketing stuff of max nits it's a silly game brands are playing now which does annoy me.

No Android auto, doesn't work for me even if you install it. Everything else is okay give it permissions and auto start. I recommend the X100 Pro over this phone. However, this is cheaper. IQOO 12 is also a very good option with better cameras than this OP12.

Thank you for the reply and happy new year! Thank you the recommendation, I was leaning towards getting the Vivo x100 pro as well for the better camera set up and I have been using the Vivo Nex 3 + the design is arguably nicer for the x100 pro vs the iqoo12. Thanks for the heads up regarding Android Auto, as the global launch event is on 03 Jan, I presume waiting for the global version would probably be the best option given android auto should work with that? Lastly, any idea on whether the screen for the x100 pro is Gorilla Glass Victus?

White balance turned out to be the most accurate between the S23 Ultra and Vivo X100 Pro in my camera comparison.

​@Techtablets as a oneplus fanboy (please no hate😅), would It be advisable to trade in or sell my S22 Ultra for a Oneplus 12?

Nice well that a big upgrade for you.

Excellent deal, amazing phone!!

@@Kwistenbiebel200 Consumer Law is worth having in the UK as we get 2 years warranty and six years of support for parts that fail within that time that shouldn't. I would not exchange the cost to lose these advantages and better support.

Love to you all the way from India 🇮🇳

Thank you so much 😀

Let's hope the global version is better than this version, otherwise I will be keeping my oneplus 10 pro!

If possible get a vivo x100 or iqoo 12/12 pro its far better in most ways

Not sure sorry.

@@Techtablets I just found out from from OnePlus Australia that the white version is for China only sadly... Want to sell yours? 🤣

The new Honor Magic 6 Pro and nice out should also be very interesting. So far one of my favorites is the IQOO 12 it has better cameras than this but mine is on the front camera with video. And it throttles a lot like this OP12.

The Rog 8 is great besides the Android updates.. you'll get two if you're lucky an they'll be super slow to update,months after google,samsung or oneplus..and the cameras are always subpar on gaming phones also if you're an avid photographer..but its still a beast of none of that matters.

No, two SIM cards

OP12 should have a better camera setup. The main sensor is a new Sony that I think places right behind the 1 Inch sensors, the Zoom Camera should be the same on all 3 devices(not sure about X100. Can't tell you about the ultra wide angle. Since IQ12 is the cheapest by far it should have the worst hardware even tho software could be better on vivo than OP.

you should also be aware that the Iqoo 12 selfie camera does not support 4K video recording. Also Iqoo is still using USB 2.0.

@@davidc.4779 I think the Vivo X100 Pro uses 1080p as well and has an amazing front camera. There are several comparison videos. I don't know about the iqoo 12 but doesn't mean it's bad.

I'm not seeing that with my unit, maybe I got lucky?

You can flash oxygen os on it

I don't have any of those issues with my unit at least not yet.

Nice price!

@@TechtabletsThanks ! BTW: I do not like the green one. Already got the Nillkin cover case black with camera protection for my OnePlus 11. Good luck with your channel !

Yeah not good the green? At least you have slap a case on it thanks for the comments.

​@@glenn1964Was it because it's slippery? Mine (OP10pro) feels like it would slip off anytime without a case. A sandstone shell case gave it the grip it needed with a minimal bit of protection.

Coming today in a few hours S24U Vs OnePlus 12 throttling test.

I prefer this build and design I think it's better. So far with the current throttling the performance isn't really better.

Я се скрий бе палячо! Аман от такива тикви като теб. Хиаоми 13 т про с 1 терабайт памет си си купил за 400€.Нов при това. Ходи ги разправяй на баба си тия лъжи. Тоя ми прави реклама на телефона. А същевременно е с самсунг 23 ултра. Поне да беше с Кйтайска марка. Телефона Оне 12 не е лош телефон добър е. Дори превъзхожда самсунг 24 ултра, и айфон 15 про. И най важното е с 500€ под тяхната цена.

It would seem so or not much cooper in there for cooling that hot SD8GEN3.

💯 haven't found a replacement yet and like you, my OnePlus 7 Pro is working as good as The day I bought it 4 1/2 years ago. I do miss wireless charging.

I just asked this from OnePlus support. Nobody answer on chat and email. 4500 nits lol... they can't do even the half of them.

All marketing BS! Next one of these brands Oppo or Xiaomi will claim 7,000 nits. Maybe Oppo will say the Find X7 Pro when released can do 7,000 nits lol. Yet nobody will prove it or be able to reproduce it, what a joke!

ColorOS/Oxygen is great

Right now it's about $600 in China which is a very good price. But the GT5 Pro I haven't tested that model.

Thanks Does wallet work? I bought Vivo X100 pro and it came with vivo wallet installed and interferes with the google wallet

50W wireless yes. I think global it will be around 800. A huge mark up over the Chinese price. But later I can see this import version being around 600-650 euros.

We have 20% VAT so start with that and add in for extra bands, EU paperwork and safety, IP testing, etc. It all adds up. There is no rip-off, just the West has higher costs of entry versus China.

700 euros and no tax on arrive from TSZ.

3dmaek crashing has now been fixed but still throttling the same

Yes it's a very nice phone.

1) You get the normal gboard voice to text with it if you install it. Doesn't work great with my NZ accent. 2) Yes this CN ROM allows for call recording. I can't cover every little thing people ask for. Reviews are long enough as they are without trying to factor in call record. Chinese roms have it normally, global ones do not at least EU roms .

If you live somewhere in Europe, voice recording then becomes illegal.

@techtablets there's many KZfaqrs that cover phones, if you want a bigger slice of the market you should cover things like this user said. Even so though, you are very active in the comments which makes up for it but might be a bit more hassle and time for you. Great work man thanks for answering our questions!

how do you find the Honor M 5 pro?! is it good?

@@soheiladam7510 the best phone I've had yet. I replaced the s23u for it and I don't regret it at all. Reminds me how cool Huawei was as a brand before the restrictions

Magic5 Pro is a great phone I'm looking forward to the next model so much. The 5 Pro is such a good phone for the price.

2 septs forwards and 1 step back.

Me too!

Big long this one I got carried away lol. But thank you for the support.

@@Techtablets i bought a OnePlus open buth i was to scared for it to break because its my first foldable phone, so i returned it and got back a OnePlus 11 should i upgrade to the 12 or stay with the 11, because i mis the periscope lens, buth if the 12 overheats that much, it would not be great for battery life

The OP Open looks stunning, a shame Oneplus has never send me anything and seems to hate me oh well. The overheating they are working on from todays new patch now lets 3Dmark run without using my fridge to cool it haha. But it still throttles like crazy to 54%

​@Techtablets Chris, nice review as always, just one question these stress tests you put the phones through what does it achieve? nobody runs apps on their phones to the point where they crash at such a level, I've always wondered why you actually do these tests

​@@Denny-G26 you really returned a phone because you were afraid of breaking it? I have had a foldable for over a year now and dropped it many time on the concrete floor where I work not a single crack on either screen only a few chips on the paint never once put a case or screen protector on

Realme : cheaper, likely better ui experience ( bbk has been focusing more on oppo/realme's ui more ). Oneplus: better camera ( overall ), better accessory availability In my opinions, just buy the one that has better support/availability/accessories in your country. ( You may want to replace the screen or the battery in the future, or maybe buy a new case/charger )

White is very clean with the silver accents I think it's a big step up from the pervious models.

My unit I haven't experienced any off those issues so this is why it's not mentioned. But the throttling is my main issue. New patch stopped 3DMark stress test from crashing but it still throttles like crazy far too much.

@@Techtablets thank you very much bro for the reply.