I have not heard of Quadral, but I'll keep an eye out!

Hello,i have also Onkyo A-9010 with Quadral Argentum 390LSP..i can confirm..great sound no matther classical,rock,alternative or relax music(Vivaldi sound great by the way).

@@ratkomartinovic6528 9010 with Wharfedale Dentons also plays Vivaldi great, would like a bit "faster" sound though.

Thank you. I was not able to compare it side by side with the CXA60, but I have heard the CXA60 multiple times and is not better than the CXA80 (no matter what Whathifi says). Also, I would just like to clarify that the Onkyo 9150 is a different beast altogether from the A9110, and A9130; this is a much better amp than those. As for the AXA, it might be something I would review in the future.

@@TheAudiofool hello, thank for work, if I understand you consider that the Onkyo 9150 is ""really much better than Onkyo 9130". I'm surprised because I contacted some shops in France and Spain and all adviced me to get 9130 ( for them the 9130 has better amplifer. As to the sound no différenciés in both, however, considering prices the 9130 seems to be more interesting .( Don't forget that 9130 and 9150 can be used in bypass adding a home cinema amplifer. So fo you, you obtain better sound from the 9150 compared to the 9130‽ Can you listen easy with your ears‽ Thank you

What speakers are you using? I'm not really impressed with the PM8006 and would suggest getting a DAC for the Onkyo instead. Or probably get a Schiit Ragnarok 2 or higher if you can push it....

@@TheAudiofool My speaker is Simulation A5 (Taiwan handmade brand), it is a handmade speaker with good sound quality. In fact, I have an external DAC with dual PCM1794. I wonder if I can improve the sound quality after changing to PM8006.

The Ragnarok is more neutral and more in control. How big is your room?

Hi, what is your budget and what type of music do you like listening to? Do you have a preferred sound signature (e.g. neutral, warm, v shaped)? At the cheapest level, i'm quite happy with a cheap class D from topping or smsl and some elac db6.2s, but let me know your budget. As for A9110 vs A9150, the difference in price corresponds to a difference in sound quality as well, the PMA600NE is not a bad performer but i'd rather save up for an a9150, or cheap out, get the class d i mentioned and pour everything else on the speaker.

​@@TheAudiofool ​ The Audiofool Thank you for your response ! I listen to various kinds of music fro classical, acoustic, jazz to blues, funk, rock and some electronics. My room is around 15m2. I am musician myself so I expect from my stereo to sound natural, with details and good representation of all frequencies but not sounding artificial and thin. My old Acoustic Energy Aegis One which are decent pair of monitors need upgrade anyway... Prices in Poland are very different but approx. I have up to 700$ to spend on amp and speakers (plus DAC if needed). I did research and have some setups on my mind but I would be grateful to hear hints and suggestions from you:) AMPS up to 350$ - Onkyo 9110, Denon PMA600, maybe old good NAD C326BEE, Yamaha A-S501 or pricier to 500$ Marantz PM6006, Rotel A10, Onkyo 9150. SPEAKERS - Wharfedale 225, Monitor Audio Bronze 2 (a bit nasal sound?) Heco Aurora 300, Mission QX-2, Kef Q150, Elac B6.2 (I heard that Elacs need to play loud to sound good, is it true ?) a bit pricier Dali Zensor 3, Dynaudio Emit 10, B&W 607 ? Or other you could suggest and match with appropriate amp ? is it reasonable to invest more in speakers and spend less on Topping MX3/SMSL AD18 (BTW which is better option?) or :) last question, I promise! I was surprised how well considering the price (440$!) Edifiers S2000 mkIII active speakers sounded. I know, too lots of things... but I hope to hear from you soon! have a great day!

@@KonradSkowronski If you liked the Edifiers, then there's no need to look for something else, just make sure you listen to the Edifiers for a while to make sure you really like them. If you really want to go down the route of separates, most of the time, you should spend the most on the speakers then the amp, then DAC, especially with your budget where the speaker will have the greatest influence on the sound. then if you still want, you can upgrade your amp eventually. Of the speakers you mentioned, I like the Elac and Dali the most, though I've not heard the Heco yet. Have you heard any of these speakers and did you like them? As for mx3 vs ad18, i would go for the topping mx3.

@@TheAudiofool Thanks! I appreciate a lot your approach, that you honestly share your experience with your audience. I have not heard these speakers in person yet, only via internet, including your channel:) So far I think I like Elac 6.2 most (in this price range) but I read they need to be played loud to show skills and demand a lot of current, is that true ? My friend has some Klipsches but I didn't like it. Sounded very bright and thin, maybe bad amp match. You are right, I will put more $ in speakers, buy some temporary amp and upgrade later. I just need to compare in person Elac 6.2 with let's say more expensive Kef 350/150, B&W 607/606 or others rivals and decide. Apart from that what is your fav pair of standmounters in this budget territory? (I know you probably answered that questions many times, but I havn't red all you comments yet ;) )

​@@KonradSkowronski How loud is loud? 75db at the listening position would be okay for them to shine. Obviously, the better the amp, the better the sound, but that is true for all speakers; but I've used them with 7498e (topping chip) and they still sound enjoyable for me. My reference speakers for below $500 - Elac DB6.2, $1000 - Elac Reference DBR62, $2000 - Tekton Impact Monitor

You're welcome haha

If you like the AUdiolab better, than it doesn't matter what other people think. We all have our preference, and we need to get the gears that make us happy.

@@TheAudiofool thx ^^

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Onkyo 9150 with Kawai tuning and spectra modules sounds outstanding good in the price range up to 1000€, much more better than a Denon 800 or Yamaha 701 ...my opinion ✨👍🏼

Rudi Knaus I have been reading about the kawai &Onkyo It seems impressive. I got my Yamaha 801(used) and was not that impressed so I returned it and ordered the 9150 I run a craft beer shop where I play high quality music and am trying to get 4. Speakers going. I tried 2 amps fed from one source with no pioneer Andrew Jones. But no great results so I got the Wharfedale 10.1 on order we’ll wait and see

I would go for the 9150 if your budget allows it. It's significantly much better.

@@TheAudiofool thanks for the reply. Found one new for $368

Which one you like better

Thanks for watching. Not a hard decision for my tastes, I'm all for Onkyo at this price range over Marantz, Denon, Rega, Cambridge, Emotiva.

@@TheAudiofool Thanks for the reply! Are you sure? I heard the 6007 is really good and it's just 499€ in my country

@@floshi6519 If you can, try to audition, but for me yes, unless the marantz is like super cheaper than the onkyo, in which case get that and add the extra to speakers.

Why use the pre-amp at all, if you already have the integrated anyway? I say that though, as I'm not really a big NAD fad. In any case, if you still want to, the Main In, is a selectable input source so you just need to switch it to Main in, similar to switching to Phono, D1, CD, etc.

@@TheAudiofool Ok I was wondering about that since the Main In doesn't have an input LED on the front, as far as I can see, so how does it show its activated? I'd prefer to use my pre amp, since I like its sound, it has got an excellent dedicated headphone amp and a great phono input stage. Also it uses the same power supply as is used in NADs high-end M Series Pre Amps and a lot of the same circuitry and is built rock solid. It also cost twice as much as the whole Onkyo integrated, so, without having the opportunity to try it in direct comparison yet, I'd assume the NAD dedicated Pre Amp will do a better job than the integrated pre amp of the Onkyo at its price point. I believe you benefit more from an expensive pre amp than an expensive power amp, since distortions are more noticeable when they affect the signal while it's still at a low voltage and are then amplified. Also I got the NAD with the intention of separating pre and power amplification for the flexibility it gives you in system matching, so going back to an integrated would defeat that purpose. Thanks for the review and the answer to my question.

@@39mdg92 No problem, let me know how it turns out for you. As for the Main In indicator, there's a small LED just to the left of the Volume knob. It also says Main in in tiny lettering.

That's a hard one, the Brio is a nice fun sounding amp. The Onkyo will sound great with the LS50, as long as you have a better DAC. How big is your room? 30w is not a lot and to be honest, I'd rather get the Brio so that I'd have a little bit of headroom.

Same sound signature in the sense that an Elac Debut 6.2 has the same sound signature as the Debut Reference DBR62, they have the same house sound. But the A9150 is just so much better.

thanks for the reply man!a9150 is so much better in terms of what sir? i cant decide which one is better, im planning to buy a9110 plus a good quality external dac and external phone stage or buy a9150 plus a good quality external dac and external phone stage..cost effective wise and sound quality which of the 2 choices?

@@saltwater007 If it's still available, I'd go with the a9150 if you don't need the wattage. Bass is more controlled and deeper, treble is more refined, and tone is better overall.

thanks for the inputs! highly appreciated!

@@TheAudiofool Good evening I have a Yamaha with b & w 602 s3. I'm thinking of changing it to onkyo. I am listening to Rock music, mainly metal. Vinyl and cds. Is it worth? Would i see a significant difference in sound?

I also have an M504; I haven't tried to use the Onkyo as a pre-amp yet, but so far the best results I had came from the P304 and direct to my bluesound node. I do prefer the Node, and sold my P304 as a result. If you don't need a lot of inputs and remote control, you might want to try the Schiit Sys, otherwise, you can go for the Schiit Saga which is on closeout right now for USD 299.

@@TheAudiofool i have the p304 but i want remote control, i think this amp will work fine as a pre amp

I'm not sure if you are talking about the a9150 as it's in a higher class than the axa35 and I even like it better than the cxa80 as mentioned in the video. If you are getting it much discounted than there's no contest for me and the a9150 is my preference.

@@TheAudiofool I was thinking more of the Onkyo a-9110 or a-9130 - which are the cheaper version of the a-9150, in comparison with the Cambridge....

@@EmilianoLoconsolo I see. I'd still take the Onkyo over CA as it is more detailed and slightly more neutral, but if you want a slighlty more exciting sound then you might like the CA.

@@TheAudiofool thank you!

I honestly think the 9150 is one of the better amps and you should go for something twice the price to get a considerable improvement. That said the Rotel KI tribute looks like quite interesting if you like the Rotel and KI sound sig.

@@TheAudiofool Yeah I agree it's really good for the money is the 9150. I've got about £1000 to spend on a upgrade and I don't mind spending a little more. Do you have any suggestions around that price? Thank you for your help it's much appreciated 🙂

If I don't need more than 30w for my room, I'd go for the Onkyo.

Eli Reyes are u joking? The Kawai tuned 9159 is a new standard in the range up to 1000€ ... !!

That is exactly right. But if you've never heard a proper amp, you should be fine with the 8140 or similar home theater receiver.

@@TheAudiofool hey thanks for replying! - just wanted to clear any doubt if getting just an amp for the price of a receiver wasnt just a corporate scam, I mean if an expert say there is noticeable difference I go for it. I already have a quality Yamaha DAC so I do not need the processing unit of a receiver - said so, I also dont want to be taken by a fool. Thanks again!

Currently using Zu Audio Event, Mission, and some DIY SPC power cords, but honestly, they don't really make a difference in my room. I suppose the power is relatively clean already.

If you need the power, then go for the yammie. If not, i still personally prefer the meatier sound of the onkyo.

@@TheAudiofool Thanks a lot for the answer! So even if I found the Yamaha for only € 390 and the Onkyo for € 290? (considering that normally the Yamaha s701 is about 700 €, while the onkyo 9150 is at almost half at 400 €) and no, I don't need that much power, already with a 30w amplifier I don't go beyond half volume because it is too high

@@mattiamanfredi6570 That does sound tempting. I don't know your tastes, so if you can, try to audition both, but for me, I'll stick with the Onkyo... unless it's for Magnepans or something as insensitive.

@@TheAudiofool Unfortunately I can only buy one. I mostly listen to EDM, pop, hip hop, rock, and no, I wouldn't use it for loudspeakers as big and powerful as Magnepans, I would use it with Bookshelf speakers or Tower speakers. I also thought, if instead I could save those 100 € and take the Onkyo (290 €) and spend the remaining 100€ for a good DAC, the performance would be better with onkyo + external dac than the Yamaha alone (So going to spend about 400 € in both cases)?

@@TheAudiofool I would be really grateful if you could answer, I have to order it as soon as possible, as the offer has a limited duration. It is very important for me to have an opinion from an expert like you. Thanks again 😅

If you mean the DAC, it stands for Digital to Analog Converter. It's what converts the digital signals from Tidal/Spotify/CDs/Flacs into an Analog form that the amplifier will then send to the speakers.

hi, what do you mean by burn my speakers? 12oclock is like only halfway through the available volume. How big is your room? The SMSL dac is okay but for MQA, i think you need an MQA capable streamer as well. You may want to try the bluesound node which has a decent DAC as well as being MQA certified. That said, I personally dont like the sound of MQA as it sounds fake to me, but feel free to experiment around.

@@TheAudiofool the room is 27m2 and burn both bass unit on one speaker maybe it was 1 o clock I think.Anyway I ordet blusound node 2i today and will see if I got any improvement over chromecast.

@@TheAudiofool So I got node 2i and it is huge improvment over the chromecast audio.The hights,mids and bas is better there stage is more wide,the sound is more involving than before.I put node at fixed volume at 90% of power so the onkyo can have less work on amp the signal.I think I burn my speakers as I was changing the source signal all the time and not the one in amp.Now with this seting my amp is on 11 o clock.

If you don't have a large room, I would go for the Onkyo A9150; otherwise the Denon then the Marantz.

@@TheAudiofool Thank you for answer. I see CXA 60 in good price due black friday. Almost te same as Denon or Onkyo. CXA 60 would be the best choice? I've 18m2 room, and I dont listen music too loud.

@@bebbop If you don't have an external DAC or will use the built in, you can go with the CXA60. But if you have an external DAC or use analog connections (turntable), I'd still go with the Onkyo.

@@TheAudiofool DAC in CXA 60 is so much better than in Onkyo? I don't have external DAC, but I need amplifier with DAC to connect TV and Chromecast Audio by toslink.

@@bebbop Yes, in the review I mentioned the CXA80+ on board DAC is better than the Onkyo+ on board DAC.

I haven't heard it, but based on measurements, Topping is better

Ragnarok -> Onkyo -> CXA80

its 30w 8 ohms and 60w 4 ohms

@@TheAudiofoolHie, thank you for your answer. I have jsut eceived the onkyo A-9130. Im really really impressed. I did not expect such a real quality. I Compared ti to another expensive amplifier at home , three more expensive and We preferred the the Onkyo. I would really like to test the onkyo a-9150 but according some revues and shops I contacted , they adviced me to stay on the Onkyo A-9130. Some reviewers , tests, agreed on the fact that the Onkyo a-9150 should be over the ONkyo A-9130 but they found none differencies in quality sound, only in the dac and connectivity but comparing prices the Onkyo 9130 is really more interesting. For you, did you find a real difference in quality sound in favor of the Onkyo A-9150?

What do you mean? I like the cheaper Onkyo much more than the CXA80. If you mean vs the Rag, it's a comparison against a reference amp.

@@TheAudiofool How can you like the Onkyo better if the CXA80 sounds better? Explain. Also, I currently use CXA80 to drive ATC SCM-11 speakers, what amp do you think I should use? I'm thinking maybe Hegel H90.

@@Taffy84 If you use the built-in DACs, the CXA80 will sound marginally better than the Onkyo A9150. However, if you use an external DAC, the Onkyo sounds much better than the CXA80, plus it costs less; less enough to be able to buy the Onkyo AND a better DAC, that would make it better than the CXA80. As for your ATC, what do you want to improve? But yes, the Hegel H90 is a good all around clean sounding amp.

@@TheAudiofool I just want to improve the overall SQ but the amp has to also contain a decent DAC, which the Hegel does.

@@Taffy84 Then the Hegel should be a good choice. Great bass and very clean sound, though with the ATC they're going to sound very neutral, which will give you a lot of microdetails but at the cost losing a bit of excitement compared to the CXA.