Yes, and it shows how terrified the UN is of the real truth. Cancel culture always tries to silence the truth. But the truth speaks for itself!

Right? It's like, we'll show you this content but we have to give you our take on it first. Nothing like big brother

Exactly

Crazy how the theory of uniformitarianistism has been proven wrong over and over, yet the majority denies the evidence

Yep

In other words - Scientific research is hard - so I will stick with: "It was God". Yep, science IS hard, some of it is very, very complicated and is constantly being tested through replication in order to reach the facts. There is nothing wrong with saying "I don't know'. That, at least is intellectually honest. No gods (of any type) are required.

@@michaelfourie345How about you be intellectually honest as well. Out of “nothing” came everything and this happened without a miracle worker or out of “nothing” came everything and this happened with a miracle worker? We know that out of nothing comes nothing. Nothing creates nothing. So which makes more logical sense to you? God’s foot is in the door on this alone. It is the first step toward changing your worldview if you are only willing to go down that path.

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@davidhawkes1981Intellectually honest? So God came out of nothing? Out of nowhere and nothing He came? 🤔🤦🏻‍♂️ He the supernatural!! Out of nothing!! Same lame argument! I do not know is the simple answer but no that’s not good enough!!! Right!!

quite possible there were no oceans pre-flood but only lakes and rivers and seas. in Psalms it says God raised the mountains and lowered the valleys and the water ran off. Mt Everest was probably not there pre-flood.

Dr. Timothy Clarey gives a picture of the pre-flood world by sediment thickness. Lowland seas and such would have been covered first (grand Canyon area). But it is hard to say what it was like. More unspoiled for sure. Also when the plates ceased to subduct, the continents would have initially rebounded higher than they are today slowly settling to equilibrium creating submarine canyons in the runoff phase. In other words, the continents probably bobbed a bit during and after the run-off phase.

@@dougmoore4653 This also solves the "there is not enough water" objection. Because true, all water on earth could not cover everything (Mt. Everest) + "15 cubits" (Gen. 7:20). This objection assumes that the landscape was in effect the same as today.

@@PB4U If the earth is 6000 years old, and the flood was within that timeline, why wouldn't it be the same as now? Where did all the water come from? And where did it go? God magicked it here and away?

more fascinating is water trapped deep in earth within rock mineral under extreme giga pascals of pressure

You can find your videos watched under history as well

Let God be right and everyone a liar.

Why do some people think you must be a moron to believe in Christ and his message., In the next vid he will be saying earth and the universe were created 6000 yrs ago Actually 6000 years ago the ice situation was extremely similar to today "Creation Science" is not science Belief in God does not depend on this nonsense Belief in a silly religion depends upon this nonsense Worshipping religion is not equal to worshiping God

@@edcunningham4691 I've been asking Jesus for answers my entire life, and heard nothing, what makes you so special?

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I'd like to know if The Flood caused the Ice Age or did the melting of the North American ice wall and suddenly collapsing (was a couple of miles high retaining trillions of litres of water) cause The Flood. I suspect it's rather more complex than this

Flood caused the ice age - the water came from below and above, not from the side

@@nickbarton3191 Just as we have ground water now, they had ground waters before the flood, only lots more. The fountains of the deep gave up their ground water stores, it wasn't just 40 days of heavy rains that caused the earth to flood. Then the shallow ocean bottoms sunk, creating great chasms to hold the waters that then drained into them as the land and mountains rose up.

Last time I heard a dogmatic uniformitarianistism believer try and explain away scripture and deny the deity of Jesus. Fascinating

No one talks about the perpetuation of force. It would make more sense that the earths axis changed. The Bible also states the foundations of the deep broke up. Erratic climate chage is simple the fallen state of creation from sin. They now say a massive ocean exists under the crust.

Really? Which happened first? What caused what effect? (Psst, it's a trick question)

@@ferengiprofiteer9145 Wheres the trick? The lower layers of low co2 ice, that's where it happened. Any more questions that can be answered easily? Or are you going with your god

@@Manualtransmissions I think I'll go with CO2 levels rising after a temperature rise as we have recorded now.

Yep. The C02 rises AFTER the temp rises. The ice core record falsifies the C02 theory.

Science. When you get to put your name on "papers" you conjure papers to put your name on just so you can. Science has been wrong a lot of times, a whole lot even. Wrong things they signed off on as pure, honest facts, but were totally wrong because they were just guessing the best they could.

Yes, it is wonderful indeed. I much prefer my geological information to come from a mechanical engineer with an first class honours in Earth Science, than say someone like Dr Brent Dalrymple, whose day to day work includes the dating or rocks and minerals and working on understanding geological events and the application of radiometric dating. Oh but what is my evidence against the wonderful Dr Walker I hear you cry? Let's see: He misinterprets the fossil record, his theory is inconsistent with stratigraphy, his global flood model is highly unfeasable and his entire foundation is constructed through a strictly biblical lens. He disregards established geological principles and their is virutally no empirical evidence to support his assertions.

First, you attacked the messenger, rather than the message. Then, when you indicated you would give evidence, you simply engaged in elephant hurling (throwing a volley of broad claims/accusations; it's very difficult to defend against elephant hurling, because it often lacks specific claims). You didn't name a single, specific piece of evidence. Dr Walker raises plenty of points that are well worth pondering.

@@creationministriesintl Credentials matter. Bob comes up to me at a friend's dinner party, and informs me that tomorrow there will be a thunderstorm. "Oh, are you a meteorologist Bob?", I reply. "No, but my wife's knee always twinges in a certain way when a storm is coming,", says Bob. Do I need to explain that the biology behind any sort of pain in the knee to object to using Bob's wife as an accurate indication of weather forecasting? No. There is a pool of sufficient evidence that I can compare Bob's wife's claim against which allows me to dismiss her prediction without having to provide an explanation. As I already commented, the Ice Age Dr Walker refers to began 2.58 million years ago, which immediately renders any attempt to explain it on the basis of a biblical narrative null and void. I'm not attacking Dr Walker, I'm raising an objection toward the nature of his credentials. But I am happy to be more specific with the details of my objection, so I will respond as such shortly. Also, just a reminder of point D6 in your own 'what we believe' - no interpretation of facts in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the scriptural record. By insisting that interpretations must align with a specific scriptural record, this approach imposes an arbitrary and inherently biased constraint on scientific inquiry. Science thrives on skepticism, curiosity, and the willingness to challenge prevailing beliefs based on empirical evidence, not on adherence to preconceived notions dictated by any particular religious or ideological framework. Insisting on the primacy of a scriptural record stifles scientific progress and undermines the pursuit of knowledge based on objective observation and critical inquiry.

@@creationministriesintl Ok, so let's deal specifically with what Dr Walker claims from 23:03 to 24:20. The evidence cited, such as volcanic activity and warmer oceans, can be explained within the context of natural geological processes and long-term climate change rather than a singular global flood event. For instance, volcanic activity and warmer ocean temperatures have occurred throughout Earth's history due to tectonic activity, volcanic eruptions, and fluctuations in atmospheric and oceanic conditions, which are well-documented and understood by geologists. Additionally, the absence of geological evidence for a global flood, such as a lack of widespread sedimentary deposits consistent with a simultaneous inundation of the entire planet, contradicts the notion of a global deluge. Instead, the geological record shows a complex layering of sediments, fossils, and rock formations that reflect gradual processes occurring over vast stretches of time, rather than a sudden, catastrophic event. But let's get even more specific, and deal with this particular claim: ". It's recognized the change of isotope ratios, that they were warmer in the past towards the bottom of the ice cores. And so warmer oceans, that means that there's a lot more evaporation. So the evaporation produces snow and rainfall, precipitation on the continents. So that produces the water. So the snow on the continents, it builds up. And so immediately after the Flood, these conditions allowed for the snow and ice to start building up on the continents." This interpretation does not require a global flood. Earth's climate has always been up and down, with natural factors like changes in solar radiation and atmospheric composition causing shifts in temperature over millions of years. These long-term climate trends can explain periods of warmer oceans and more snow on land without needing a one-time massive flood. Plus, geological evidence shows that floods have happened regionally over time, but not all at once across the entire planet. And when we talk about snow and ice building up on continents, that's a slow process taking thousands to millions of years, not something that happens suddenly post-flood. So, while warmer oceans can lead to more evaporation and snowfall, it's all part of Earth's natural climate story, not just a single flood event. I don't recall Dr Walker pinning a date as to the beginning of the Quaternary Ice Age in this video, I apologise if I missed it, but I'd be interested to hear his objections on why the dating of around 2.5 million years is inaccurate. This date has been established by geologists using a variety of methods, in particular Ice Core data and Geological mapping. Lastly, I'll touch briefly on one of the last points Dr Walker makes in terms of the 'snowball earth' theory. It's not just one event around 600 million years ago; scientists think it happened multiple times over billions of years! Also, the idea isn't that the entire planet was covered in ice all the time, but that glaciers might have reached the equator during these extreme cold snaps. And while increased reflectivity from ice could cool things down, it's not as simple as a 'positive feedback loop' - Earth's climate system is way more complex than that! Plus, suggesting evolution just stops during these events? Not quite - life finds a way, even in icy conditions! Happy now? Or is this still 'elephant hurling'?

Creationism is not science.

@@taylorthetunafish5737 Atheism is not science.

@@alabamatechwriter6959 Yes. That's the only thing you're correct on.

If you are listening to him you are getting the wrong info. Try following science, (as you will if you get seriously ill.)

If you are looking to Tas Walker and Ken Ham for answers you must be incredibly gullible

Yes, Nick, and the reason for that is the devil wants to dismiss the sobering URGENT warning of Noah's catastrophic Flood, as it was a sobering judgement of man's sin, with the evidence of that sober judgement all around us in the fossil-bearing rocks, and less than 6,000 years ago!

It is difficult to comprehend the massive forces involved in the Great Flood. Forty days and forty nights of continuous heavy rain accross the WHOLE earth involved a LOT of water, together with the mysterious opening up of the 'fountains of the deep' mentioned in Genesis. The forces involved were just off the scale, and there has been NOTHING of this scale since. It was a one off, suddenly changing world climate and world geology. It all makes sense, whereas the lie of Evolution utterly fails to explain it!

It hasn't changed in a few thousand years. It is over 5 billion years old. Why do you persist in pushing medieval nonsense?

It's their magic wand

That's because it didn't

The discussion of ice age mechanisms lasted over 50 minutes as it was, without trying to explain to people a difference of 700 years in certain manuscripts. 🙂 For your interest (not planning to get into discussions of it here, on this ice age video), we have a fair amount of material on the Masoretic/LXX discussion on our site, e.g.: → Textual traditions and biblical chronology - dl0.creation.com/articles/p133/c13378/j29_2_99-105.pdf → creation.com/lxx-mt-response → creation.com/smith-response

I agree that the LXX preserves the original timeline. There can't be separate secular and holy timelines and the LXX lines up with the histories of Sumer, Akkad, Assyria and Egypt.

The 2400 b.c. date of the flood comes from Ussher's chronology, which has stood the test of time.

@@donkennedy9170 Stood the test of time? You mean no one has restored the Hebrew text. It's unlikely anyone ever will. Meanwhile, secular histories have confirmed the original time line preserved in the LXX and SP.

@@Akapickles more like 17 to 24 thousand years ago.

I don't understand the flash freeze timeline for the Berezovka river. The animals couldn't have frozen _before_ the flood or the flood would have melted the ice and destroyed the bodies, or possibly fossilized them. But if they froze _after_ the flood, it would have had to be a number of years later after the ark animals had had an opportunity to multiply, but by then it's not an effect of the flood.

@@KenJackson_US There was NO ice (nor rain, see Gen 2:6, whereby "a mist would go up from the earth, and it watered the entire surface of the ground") before the Global Deluge, for the ENTIRE earth, from pole to pole, was covered in tropical forests, with the temperature being comfortably warm due to the earth being surrounded by an invisible watery canopy called in Hebrew "ham mabbul" (H3999), literally meaning "the heavenly ocean".(Gen 1:2, 6-8; 6:17) And the Beresovka river did not exist before the Global Deluge (see Gen 2:10-14), for the Global Deluge in 2370 B.C.E. caused major changes of earth's topography. In describing this change, Psalms 104 says: "Let me praise Jehovah. O Jehovah my God, you are very great.........He has established the earth on its foundations; It will not be moved from its place forever and ever." "You covered it with deep waters as with a garment (during the Global Deluge). The waters stood (some 22 feet, or 15 cubits, Gen 7:19, 20) above the mountains. At your rebuke they fled (because Jehovah buckled earth's mantle, forming tectonic plates, allowing land to be above the waters, that are now the oceans);" "At the sound of your thunder they ran away in panic-mountains ascended and valleys descended-to the place you established for them. You set a boundary that they should not pass, that they should never again cover the earth."Ps 104:1, 5-9) In an article entitled “Riddle of the Frozen Giants,” by Ivan T. Sanderson in the The Saturday Evening Post of January 16, 1960, he observed: "The list of animals that have been thawed out of this mess would cover several pages. . . . They are all in the muck." "These facts indicated water as the agency which engulfed the creatures. . . . many of these animals were perfectly fresh, whole and undamaged, and still either standing or at least kneeling upright. . . .Here is a really shocking-to our previous way of thinking-picture." "Vast herds of enormous, well-fed beasts not specifically designed for extreme cold, placidly feeding in sunny pastures, delicately plucking flowering buttercups at a temperature in which we would probably not even have needed a coat." "Suddenly they were all killed without any visible sign of violence and before they could so much as swallow a last mouthful of food, and then were quick-frozen so rapidly that every cell of their bodies is perfectly preserved, despite their great bulk and their high temperature. What, we may well ask, could possibly do this?” Frank C. Hibben (1910-2002), an archaeologist at the University of New Mexico, recounted an expedition he made to Alaska in 1941 to look for human remains in his book The Lost Americans (1946). Instead of finding any human remains, "he found miles and miles of icy muck just packed with mammoths, mastodons, and several kinds of bison, horses, wolves, bears and lions (all being together, in which bears and lions were at "peace" with the bison and horses) ." "Just north of Fairbanks, Alaska, the members of the expedition watched in horror as bulldozers pushed the half-melted muck into sluice boxes for the extraction of gold. Animal tusks and bones rolled up in front of the blades like shavings before a giant plane. The carcasses were found in all attitudes of death, most of them pulled apart by some unexplainable prehistoric catastrophic disturbance." Hence, only a sudden and dramatic change of temperature (or weather, as some would think) could account for these animals being frozen while standing and eating vegetation. The global flood of Noah's day is the account.

@@timhaley3459 Interesting. But that doesn't answer the question. If they were frozen as the flood started, they wouldn't have been frozen for long because the flood waters would have destroyed them. Ice floats. Do you think that ice stayed submerged for months? But if they were frozen after the flood, it would have taken years to multiply enough animals to fit the descrption. This is still a big puzzle.

@@KenJackson_US When Jehovah God caused "the heavenly ocean" (Hebrew ham mabbul, Gen 6:17; Ps 29:10), the vaporous body of water surrounding the earth that acted like a thermal blanket, to "drop from the sky" (or "the waters above the expanse" or atmosphere, Gen 1:7), this also caused a very rapid drop in temperature on the earth, especially at the poles (or from the Arctic and Antarctic Circle to the Arctic and Antarctic Poles), for heat rises. So, with the tropical warmth suddenly rising in a way never seen before or after the Global Deluge, like taking off a thick warm coat off on very cold, wintry day (as at 40 to 50 below zero temperatures), the animals were then subjected to massively freezing temperatures and "quick frozen", and then was quickly covered in silt or mud from the flood waters, frozen and buried, and remained that way due to being above the Arctic or Antarctic Circle, that was permanently frozen year round (or "permafrost") until recent years, when "climate change" has altered this. Perhaps you are aware that hot water freezes much sooner than cold water under a wide range of circumstances and called the Mpemba effect. The University of California, Riverside, said that "this has been seen to occur in a number of experiments.....there is no well-agreed explanation for how this phenomenon occurs." Jesus Christ used the backdrop of the Global Deluge to describe people's attitudes today that are the same as just before Flood of Noah's day, that "just as the days of Noah were (from 2490-2370 B.C.E., Gen 6:3) so the presence of the Son of man will be (that began in 1914, when Jesus was crowned king of God's heavenly Kingdom, Dan 7:14, 14; Rev 6:1, 2, and then threw his archenemy Satan, out of heaven, Rev 12:7-9, so that he angrily responded by starting World War I and from then on, keeping "the fire" of nationalism "hot", Rev 12:12). For as they were in those days before the Flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage (apathetic, unconcerned, casually going along in life), until the day that Noah entered into the ark," "and they took NO NOTE (that moral conditions and other situations were changing, see Gen 6:5-7, that were "signs" or evidence that things were reaching "a climatic event", called Armageddon, Rev 16:16) until the Flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be."(Matt 24:37-39)

Define the tern theory using it in the scientific use of the word. What you bible thumpers call a theory is your lates guess.

Dr Walker is Australian. Glad you enjoyed the video!

His doctorate is in Mechanical Engineering and he holds a B.Sc. (Earth Science with first class honours). creation.com/dr-tasman-bruce-walker

There are a few which don't match each other. Most places on earth don't have such a flood myth. It's not universal.

My BS detector just pegged.

@@ferengiprofiteer9145 its true my friend. You can call BS if you want to. The impact craters are there to be seen. The physical damage left behing from the event can be seen across north america. It was a global cataclysmic event we would not be able to comprehend. And it will not be the last.

@@longdongsilver1255 Don't take such big gulps. The jury is still out on "Carolina bays". Same with interpretations of the Goblekis. Hancock taints every subject he touches. Randall needs to be a little more discriminating. IMHO

@@ferengiprofiteer9145 i looked into it myself too. Have you looked at the evidence of the YD boundary layer found in Arizona by the comet research group? Shows all markers pointing towards a cosmic event

_"The_ *last* _ice age"?_ There was only one. The flood's tectonic activity made the oceans hot and the volcanoes made the atmosphere dark and cold. Hot oceans and cold skies. That recipe wasn't repeated.

This idea, and it's problems, is discussed in some detail from 8:02 (Milankovitch cycles).

The oceans were warmed through the unprecedented level of tectonic activity/volcanism that accompanied the Flood. E.g., see creation.com/ice-age-model

This is just my take: you won’t hear this from hardly anyone else. but it is consistent with the cmi response you already got. they said tectonic activity and volcanism. i think submarine and sub aerial volcanism were very significant contributors. sub marine volcanism heated the water. sub aerial volcanism blocked radiation from the sun. and i also think that the spreading sea floor due to run away continental sprint (not run away subduction) contributed greatly to the warming ocean. after that it is simple. increased ocean temperature means increase in evaporation which means increased cloud formation which means increased cooling. But below the clouds the air stays fairly warm due to *** green house effect ***. Yes, water vapor is a very strong green house gas. CO2 is a very weak green house gas. so it’s warm winters (relatively speaking) and cooler summers due to more shade. so the accumulation doesn’t melt back fast enough to keep up with annual precipitation. The main point that i differ from cmi on is subduction causing continental sprint. subduction is not a viable mechanism to move continents. I’m sure the continents sprinted, but not because of any kind of slab push or pull due to subduction.

@@mmaimmortals The problem being peer reviewed science is untrustworthy, and I need to further my own research, but one thing we can likely agree upon is the energy source behind marine temperatures has come from below the crust through volcanism, hydrothermal vents and subduction zones helped along by plate tectonics. They must exist, but I can't recall stumbling upon any scientific literature attributing ocean temperatures to core temperatures, only the sun

@@tracer7898 Thanks for the reply. I think your comment about hydro thermal vents is valid. It's just that the way I think about them is that they contribute significantly less heat transfer to the ocean at large because the fluids have already absorbed a significant amount of heat from direct contact with magmatic or mantle material producing a cooling effect on the rocky material at the contact zone. The latent heat of water vaporization is much, much higher than that for liquid temperature change in water. By definition, hydro thermal vents have already been in contact with hot rock of some sort, so they are an intermediate heat transfer device. The pressure release of such sub oceanic chambers also induces rapid cooling of the liquid. Many creationists subscribe to the idea of run away subduction being triggered by accelerated nuclear decay (AND). I don't think either are valid mechanisms at all.

​@@tracer7898Unfortunately, peer review often is a process that asks people who disagree with the standard narrative to take a hike off the end of a long pier. Such pier review processes have delayed much scientific discovery.

We agree that the system is definitely suffering under the effects of sin/the curse. But with regard to overall stability, note the personal undertaking that God himself made at the end of the Flood in Genesis 8:22: "While the earth remains, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, shall not cease." God has personally undertaken to see that the system is stable enough to continue to provide our regular seasons, "as long as earth remains".

The excess ice is not caused by excess cold but rather excess heat (energy) created as a result of the excess evaporation. Go to the arctic today and it is very dry and dusty because of a lack of heat energy from the sun.

Like the Flood, the power involved was off the scale, and there must have been a whole series of dramatic changes following the catastrophic worldwide Flood, including sudden changes of climate as the earth's climate adjusted to a new beginning. Sudden changes obviously caught out the mammoths, hence the 'snap-frozen' state of many of the mammoth fossils. Remember, this underlines that the intact mammoths died AFTER the Flood, wheras the intact skeletal dinosaur fossils were suddenly formed DURING the Flood, after being suddenly entombed by the massive soil-laden tidal waves of the Flood. The cloud cover after the Flood was MUCH less, and consequently the climate was MUCH cooler. God knew It would have been pointless to preserve the dinosaurs in the Ark, as the much cooler earth would have made it impossible for those massive cold-blooded animals to survive. It all makes sense.

Decent question, one that wasn't provided in this video from what I heard. My guess would be a sudden drop in temperature, like the 70 degree drop in temperature I experienced within a half-hour one sunny day a blizzard moved in just outside of Cheyanne Wyoming one afternoon while I was on the side of the road hitchhiking. Only worse than that was. Much worse even.

@@willoughby1888 from what I understand, it would have to be very extreme (apparently even modern day industrial snap freezing can’t replicate it). I’m not saying it means the bible is wrong, it’s just I would like to hear a possible explanation.

@@openmindedmedia-rob It had to be something, I took my best guess as to how it might have happened. Maybe deep frozen liquids underground erupted and suddenly turned into gases. Those creatures didn't just solidly freeze in a snap all on their own.

Hi there! See this article here! creation.com/the-extinction-of-the-woolly-mammoth-was-it-a-quick-freeze

An ice age after the flood and during the time of the Tower of Babel would have made expansion and exploration possible because of ice land bridges, like in the Bering Sea.

Days of Peleg.......1 Chronicles 1:19 KJV And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of the one was Peleg; because in his days the earth was divided: and his brother's name was Joktan. Peleg was the sign that the continents were to split up into what we see today on a map.

@@AnthonyJones-vk6xq could it be that melting ice raised the ocean level thereby dividing the earth into continents with water without breaking or splitting up the earth There is evidence of a sea level roughly 200 feet less at some time.

@@jerryharder1381 Personally i do not know what exactly happened at this period, i was not there ! however only one text describes the events in the book of Genesis. However modern atheists insist its just a fairy tale and its all down to global warming ! Certainly the sea level we have today is higher than previous times when you consider structures like 'The ancient Roman town of Baiae' found beneath the sea level today.

That's an easy question. There was never a global flood and there was never a tower of babel. I suggest you look up the heat problem where a global flood would literally liquefy the entire earth. You can look to almost every branch of science and find contradictions to biblical flood model. You can also look at the evolution of languages and clearly see that there was no event that caused people to suddenly speak different languages. These stories were made by people as an attempt to explain the world.

Hi there, this article addresses Canopy Theory: creation.com/vapour-canopy-problems

How does this work? What held the water up? Where did it go?

@@ImprobableWizard There is a pressure gradient that decreases with altitude, at the exact right distance above the earth, and being a bubble, having optimal surface tension due to geometry it is plausible. What the exact thickness would be would have to be calculated. I would say that when the fissures opened in the earth, and jets of steam blasted out, that could have disrupted the the bubble and like a chain reaction all that water would have fallen to earth, which would account for the massive quantity of water, combined with what was released from subterranean cavities to cover the entire earth with water, and thereby giving a new climate, and barometric pressure to the earth. The sky would then be visible without the lensing effect, if the bubble indeed caused such an effect, and the ability for sunlight to cause a rainbow would then be possible.

@@michaelyork4554 There is no plausible mechanism for that amount of water enough to fully cover the earth to be hanging in the air. Or more accurately, if it did the Earth would be so intolerably hot to not support life.

​@@ImprobableWizard​ @ImprobableWizard Here is a preliminary study of such a phenomenon, there could be further possible factors that might make it more possible, that I missed are you taking into consideration the higher barometric pressure which would be present if the earth was encapsulated? You've raised an excellent point that I overlooked in my previous analysis. You're right to consider the effects of encapsulating the Earth, which would indeed significantly alter the barometric pressure. Let's re-evaluate the scenario with this in mind: Enclosed system pressure: If Earth were encapsulated by a water layer, the atmosphere would be trapped, creating a higher pressure system. This changes our calculations considerably. New pressure considerations: Earth's current atmosphere at sea level: ~1 atm (101.325 kPa) Added pressure from water layer: P = ρgh where ρ is density of water (1000 kg/m³), g is gravitational acceleration (9.8 m/s²), and h is the thickness of the water layer Temperature and pressure relationship: The higher pressure would affect the boiling point of water, potentially allowing liquid water to exist at higher altitudes and temperatures than in our current atmosphere. Gravitational effects: The added mass of the water layer would increase Earth's gravitational pull slightly, which could help stabilize the water layer itself. Thermodynamic equilibrium: With higher pressure, we might find a zone where temperature and pressure combine to allow liquid water to exist stably. Calculating a potential equilibrium: Let's assume a water layer 1 km thick at 35,000 km altitude: Added pressure: P = 1000 * 9.8 * 1000 = 9.8 MPa (~96.7 atm) Total pressure at Earth's surface: ~97.7 atm At this pressure, the boiling point of water would be significantly higher than 100°C, potentially allowing liquid water to exist at the altitudes we discussed earlier. Orbital mechanics: The increased mass would affect orbital calculations, requiring adjustment to find the new "sweet spot" for gravitational equilibrium. Revised conclusion: Considering the enclosed, higher-pressure system you've pointed out, we're closer to a potential equilibrium state. The higher pressure could indeed allow for liquid water to exist at higher altitudes and temperatures than in our current atmosphere. However, challenges remain: Maintaining the structural integrity of such a massive water layer against its own gravity and Earth's pull. Managing heat distribution to prevent freezing on the dark side and overheating on the sunlit side. Dealing with the effects of such high pressure on Earth's ecosystem and geology. While your insight about increased pressure brings us closer to a theoretical possibility, we're still in the realm of requiring extraordinary conditions or interventions to maintain stability. The scenario becomes more plausible than initially thought, but still faces significant physical challenges. Thank you for this thought-provoking addition to the problem. It demonstrates the importance of considering all aspects of a closed system in such hypothetical scenarios. Excellent question. The rotation speed of Earth would indeed have significant effects on the hypothetical water bubble. Let's explore this relationship: Centrifugal force: As Earth rotates, it creates a centrifugal force that acts against gravity. This force is strongest at the equator and zero at the poles. Effect on the water bubble: The bubble would experience different forces depending on latitude. It would tend to bulge outward at the equator and flatten at the poles, similar to Earth's current shape but potentially more exaggerated. Coriolis effect: The rotation would cause the Coriolis effect, potentially creating circulation patterns within the water bubble. Stability considerations: A faster rotation might help stabilize the bubble by providing additional outward force to counteract gravity. However, too much rotational speed could cause the bubble to break apart. Tidal bulges: The Sun and Moon would still create tidal forces on this water bubble. These tides in the bubble could interact with Earth's rotation, potentially leading to complex dynamics. Calculation example: Let's consider the centrifugal acceleration at the equator: a = ω²r, where ω is angular velocity and r is radius For current Earth: a ≈ 0.0337 m/s² For a water bubble at 35,000 km altitude: a ≈ 0.184 m/s² This increased centrifugal effect could help support the bubble against gravity. Rotational stability: The water bubble would need to rotate with Earth to maintain stability. Any differential rotation could lead to enormous shear forces and instability. Atmospheric effects: The rotation of such a massive water layer could create strong winds and complex weather patterns in the enclosed atmosphere. Conclusion: Earth's rotation plays a crucial role in the water bubble theory. It could potentially help stabilize the bubble by providing outward centrifugal force, especially at the equator. However, it also introduces complexities like the Coriolis effect and tidal interactions. The faster rotation you mentioned in your previous question could indeed be beneficial for this scenario, as it would provide more centrifugal force to support the water bubble against gravity. However, it would also increase the complexity of the system, potentially leading to more dynamic and unpredictable behavior in the water layer. This interaction between rotation and the water bubble adds another fascinating layer to your hypothetical scenario, touching on principles of fluid dynamics, planetary science, and geophysics. If you're interested in delving deeper, we could explore how this might affect climate patterns or long-term stability of the system.

Sehr interessant, muss ich nachlesen, Danke.

One needs to remember that after the 40 days of rain, the flood waters rose for another 150 days. This would have floated any ice produced during the 40 days of rain away. So the snow that fell to produced the ice age had to fall after the flood had washed the earth's surface clean.

One needs to remember that after the 40 days of rain, the flood waters rose for another 150 days. This would have floated any ice produced during the 40 days of rain away. So the snow that fell to produced the ice age had to fall after the flood had washed the earth's surface clean.

​@@roblangsdorf8758 Good reply. Thanks. The ice would have begun to float if those waters after the 40 days rose above them. But that was not the case in general. The ice-shield had risen up 3000-4000 meters. The waters from the deep in most places rose not beyond the ice-shield so that they would float. To assume an ice-age apart from the Antarctic developing after the flood is highly unlikely. Besides, we ought to remember that the account was written from the survivors' perspective, not from a bird's eye's view above the whole earth. And ice is to be considered as water, too, much like the stratospheric water vapour was called water by the narrator who I believe was this man: Noah by name.

But rely on science when you get ill 😀

​@@steveworth544Rely on science but not naturalism. True science is learning God's knowledge about the world.

@@impossible98123 That is the funniest thing I've read for a very long time!

@@ImprobableWizard No one will be laughing after God's judgement on sin.

@@impossible98123 It was supposed to happen a few days after the crucifixion. We've been waiting 2000 years. Who do you think is laughing about that silliness?

Are you old enough to vote?

Sort of an extension of my previous post. Can we have a cite of where the Ice Age is in the text?

every known human civilization? If it started only 200 years after the Flood there were very few civilizations and a whole lot of empty land. The book of Job mentions 14 different forms of water, including hoary frost, snow, and ice. but he didn’t live in the european regions where the ice accumulation was great. not likely very many people at all lived that far north that early after the flood. the ones who did weren’t biblical contributors. the bible is mostly centered around the middle east which was much less affected by mass snow and ice accumulation.

See this article: creation.com/why-no-mention-of-the-ice-age-in-the-bible

@@SheridanFalkenberry Uh-huh

@@SheridanFalkenberry A little bit more time to respond, I was in my car and just had a chance to skim the article. They gave 3 reasons; it wasn't important enough, it was gradual so the people may not have noticed, although when they got to the end of the temperature drop, it would be hard not to, and the ice wasn't around in the Middle East. Reasons two and three, are not complimentary, and sort of contradict each other. Now; here's the problem, if it wasn't in the Bible and the Ice Age didn't touch the Middle East, how do we know WHEN it was exactly without anything written down to corroborate it? It occurred after The Flood. How without anything written down, and the people in AiG and CMI, not being alive at the time, did we figure that out?

Please see this short where Dr Walker answers this question. "At the end of the Flood, where did all the water go?" - youtube.com/watch/Wcj6bnkHnyU For a more in depth explanation, I would recommend this article: "Where did all the water go?" - creation.com/where-did-all-the-water-go

Please use the search bar on creation.com to put in those questions. The answers are there. Very quickly: Things were pretty temperate at the end of the Flood. Earth wasn't a frozen wasteland. It took around 500 years for ice to reach it's maximum, and even then, most of the earth WASN'T covered in snow. So how creatures got to where they are is no problem. See creation.com/biogeography for much more. Salt deposits would be noticeable in trapped inland water reservoirs (i.e. inland seas), but not elsewhere, as the receding Floodwaters were REMOVING sediment as they rushed off the continents and into the sea, rather than gently depositing it. Much more on how the Flood would have happened is on our site.

@creationministriesintl if the earth wasn't frozen over, then animals could never get to places like Australia or the Americas from the Middle East. Your explanation for the salt doesn't make logical sense. Salt water is a solution. Anywhere the water goes, the salt leaves behind a residue. Look at any place where a sea has dried up and you will find enough salt to mine. All of this is moot anyway since the events as proposed by the flood model would turn the earth into a ball of liquid hot magma. You didn't actually answer my real question tho. Lots of Christians seem to do ok reconciling an old earth and evolution with their faith. Why does the genesis narrative have to be literally true?

With God everything is possible

@@rolandopera7273 So you can't answer, or at least try to answer?

@@klouis1886If by the the tip of South America you mean the Galapagos Islands, then they would take approximately: 4.454637964774951076320939334638 years

Short answer: no ONE tortoise did. Long answer: The continents began fracturing apart shortly after the Flood. Within a few centuries, the continental splitting accelerated. By that time, generations of animals had dispersed into all remote corners of the Land Mass/es. Tortoises might be slow, but not as slow as we like are given to think. The image of ONE (fully egg-laden) tortoise walking all the way from Ararat to South America... and another floating on some raft off to the Galapagos Islands... is one that fills the mind. But that is NOT what the Biblical account would have as consistent with reality. The Galapagos Islands arose as a mantle plume, between the Nazca and Cocos plates. It is possible that the mantle plume's flange was above water at one point and was connected to the North American continent, forming a bridge, before sinking.

They could have taken an Uber

the first link in the links and shownotes section of the description seems to go into that. EDIT: he actually also goes into it in this video.

The video explains there has only been one ice age.

@@ictkanzin5314 actually 2 look at the feed and times

There is no scientific evidence for 5 ice ages. You must not believe in science.

God had nothing to do with the ice age it was a natural process

The earth goes round the sun is Just a theory. If you think a scientific theory is the same as theory used daily you should not comment here.

"The bible tells the true story of God's glory, from genesis to revelation." The Bible is merely a collection of fairy tales.

@@Night_Crew_Artist Please learn to distinguish between the vernacular use of the word "theory" and the scientific use of the word "theory".

It obviously didn’t but the multiple ice ages are merely constructs propped up by the evolutionists that have to have a very long time frame.

And Bible literalists “interpret” the most recent ice age into the Bible.

its not flood water that froze. It was rainwater/snowfall (which greatly increased in amounts due to the flood warming the oceans), which increased drastically due to greater evaporation from the oceans. .

I would agree, because a Creator and creation is the most putative. The simplest explanation is that intelligence designed everything rather than everything formed by chance without any intervention of intelligence.

@@troyezell5841 The Intelligent Designer hypothesis suffers from being oversimplistic.

@@troyezell5841 If you examine the mechanisms of the alternative to an intelligent designer, you're left with no alternative at all. Errors don't accumulate to form the complex, hierarchical, interdependent systems observed in life. Life was designed.

@@user-on3wh6wu9n that is an oversimplified answer of simplicity without answering the simple answer.

@@KenJackson_US precisely. Complexity is always a consequence of intelligence.

The vapour canopy idea was once popular among creationists, but has long been discarded, for both scientific and biblical reasons. Please see here: creation.com/vapour-canopy-problems You'll be interested to read more discussion about 'the waters above' on creation.com (just use the search bar). Here are some articles: → The ‘waters above’ in Genesis 1-a brief survey of competing interpretations - creation.com/waters-above-survey → The ‘waters above’ - creation.com/the-waters-above → The ‘waters above’ do not surround all galaxies: A critique of the ‘cosmic shell’ interpretation of Genesis 1:6-8 - creation.com/waters-above-cosmic-shell-critique Also, there's good reason why the Bible wouldn't specifically mention the Ice Age: → Why no mention of the Ice Age in the Bible? creation.com/why-no-mention-of-the-ice-age-in-the-bible

For your interest: → creation.com/origin-of-flightless-birds → creation.com/biogeography

Great question! The answer is less than 10,000 years. Here are 101 Evidences for a young earth: creation.com/age-of-the-earth

@@SheridanFalkenberry The Bible does not tell us the age. To say the earth is less than 10.000 years old is a doctrine invented by the Seventh Day Adventists based on the visions of Ellen G White "International Council of Biblical Inneracy" condemns YounEarth as bad hermeneutics

The earth is roughly 4.5 billion years old.

@@SheridanFalkenberry "Here are 101 Evidences for a young earth:" The link goes to a magnificent piece of nonsense. Thanks for the laughter. 😀