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Ontario Rat 2 vs Spyderco Delica 4

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@krumbers
@krumbers 7 жыл бұрын
I keep my rat 2 with my nice knife collection. It has more than earned its place among my pm2, 940, griptilian, and my ultratech
@cocabandi
@cocabandi 6 жыл бұрын
The Rat 2 scales are made of nylon 6, which I believe is what's used in Glock handles.
@sopwithcamelus
@sopwithcamelus 3 жыл бұрын
I like both very much, particularly since I picked up the D2 version of the RAT 2.
@03_austindrake88
@03_austindrake88 4 жыл бұрын
I love the Delica 4 (and Spyderco in general) but as far as value, theirs nothing even close to the Ontario Rat 2. I just finally bought a Rat 2 within the last year and I absolutely love it. It's a $30 knife (AUS-8 version) that competes and compares to knives 2-3 times the price. And that's with the AUS-8. The D2 is even better and brings even more value.
@13irishsailors
@13irishsailors 6 жыл бұрын
Do you still feel that the Delica is worth a $100 ish more then the rat now that you can get it in D2?
@ReticentSparrow
@ReticentSparrow 8 жыл бұрын
"Gadget factor." Great term. I might have to steal that one.
@jimyocum9556
@jimyocum9556 7 жыл бұрын
I find myself in agreement if I could get a pinky more of purchase on the rat 2 it would be golden,I love that crisp fast blade deployment as well..my delica4 has been around a long time the closest knife I have to replacing it is my native 5 lightweight it's really hard to decide between those two..
@bryanstone654
@bryanstone654 7 жыл бұрын
Since the Zancudo is currently available in D2 steel and the Rat 2 isn't, how about a comparison between the $35 D2 Zancudo and the $66 Delica 4?
@adamcarrell
@adamcarrell 7 жыл бұрын
The rat handle is not g-10.
@Joe-jj3oh
@Joe-jj3oh 5 жыл бұрын
adamcarrell What is it then
@lionelf3216
@lionelf3216 2 жыл бұрын
@@Joe-jj3oh frn
@bryanstone654
@bryanstone654 7 жыл бұрын
Esee Zancudo is now (Feb 2017) available with D2 steel and carbon fiber G10 handle for $48 American. D2 steel and FRN handle scale for $35.Just sayin'
@ozyrob1
@ozyrob1 6 жыл бұрын
Now that the RAT 2 is available in D2 (after this vid was made), the Rat 2 slaughters the Delica for edge holding and overall value. If the Delica doesn't get a steel upgrade soon, I reckon it's days are numbered. Way overpriced for what it is in todays market. Excellent comparison.
@caremorelikechrist5020
@caremorelikechrist5020 6 жыл бұрын
Rat 1>Endura Rat 2>Delica Fight me.
@CedricAda
@CedricAda 6 жыл бұрын
+cc913 I think Rat 1 does > Endura now its in D2 for sure. The Rat 2 is little cramped in my hand, so I think the Delica still > the rat 2
@caremorelikechrist5020
@caremorelikechrist5020 6 жыл бұрын
Cedric & Ada Gear and Outdoors Fair point, tbh Im a little partial towards the Rats seeing they are my first good folding knives hehe. Been torn between the delica and the mini grip for my next edc knife.
@Frip36
@Frip36 6 жыл бұрын
Holding out for the G-10 MiniGrip till they have it in something other than boring gray.
@Joe-jj3oh
@Joe-jj3oh 5 жыл бұрын
I’ll fight you bitch
@ScottieG59
@ScottieG59 7 жыл бұрын
It seems this size knife costs more than it should, maybe due to the demand. I have found Enduras on sale cheaper than Delucas, which never seems to be on sale. The Delica is a bit better in materials and design than the RAT II, but the RAT series hits above its weight, to use a boxing term. I do maintenance on my knives, so rust has not been an issue for me. I wonder if the Delica liners are as corrosive resistant as the VG10 blade.
@DamasKriss
@DamasKriss 8 жыл бұрын
i have the rat 1 and it's a pretty hefty blade. i want a delica now. hopefuly your country will ease up on the gun laws as well.
@Samcity275
@Samcity275 8 жыл бұрын
Nice review mate! I have a Kershaw Dimension and I love that knife heaps but the delica 4 is my edc... so reliable in every task I do daily... always cool to hear of other knife nutz here in Australia... keep up the good work. 😊
@pericodelospalotes5738
@pericodelospalotes5738 4 жыл бұрын
Which has a better edge retention, the Spyderco VG-10 or the improved Ontario Rat D2? My edc is a Delica 4 in ZDP-189 because I was dissappointed with an Endura full serrated in VG-10, too soft in my opinion but I have never had a plain edge in that steel, definitly not enough for keeping sharp the dentations. Maybe a full serrated CPM S30V blade could be right.
@skylerbond56
@skylerbond56 2 жыл бұрын
The D2 but the vg 10 takes a finer razor edge easier, and is more rust resistant but not prone to rolling. Both are good steels though.
@georgemorley1029
@georgemorley1029 2 жыл бұрын
So that was “extra, extra tiny gloves”, right? Like, really very, very small indeed. I think that was what you said?
@dalecarpenter8359
@dalecarpenter8359 6 жыл бұрын
I feel a little bias toward spyderco in this review . A liner lock compared with a back lock ?the back lock is stronger .the liner locks tend to pop off under spine wack sort of pressure . If the rat 2 had the g lock like the g727 it would be stronger than the back lock ! The blade shape of the rat 2 is slightly more useable ( the blade fits into smaller places ) The g10 is better handle material ( frn being bendy ) So the only thing better about the spyderco is the lock So the rat 2 is a higher value knife at a lower price than the spyderco ?
@theitalianrobot
@theitalianrobot 2 жыл бұрын
where can i buy a delica 4 in australia?
@michiganedge4770
@michiganedge4770 8 жыл бұрын
nice comparison! I have a rat 1 and endura. delica on the way! I like the spyder better for edc. but the rat 1 I think is better suited for a belt/sheath knife. both great for sure tho! thanks!
@CedricAda
@CedricAda 8 жыл бұрын
+Michigan edge they certainly are both great hitters in the 3.5 inch category. I'd probably go the endura myself!
@patrickjohnston8474
@patrickjohnston8474 7 жыл бұрын
Zt
@danielwilson1419
@danielwilson1419 7 жыл бұрын
the fact that the rat 2 (27 American dollars) is often compared to the delicate 4 (66 American dollars) should tell you something. I own both and think the rat 2 crushes the delica in every category besides blade steel. The fact that I can buy 2 rat 2s and a days lunch for the price of a delica is just icing on the cake. btw I wear XL gloves, to quote Steve Jobs, lmao, (I hate apple) ur holding it wrong.
@danielwilson1419
@danielwilson1419 7 жыл бұрын
also no hate the delica is a fantastic knife and I enjoy your videos. especially your steel tests
@CedricAda
@CedricAda 7 жыл бұрын
Daniel Wilson no worries man! Yeah i think once they put some D2 in the Rat2 they'll crush the market. I find my hand fits the delica a bit better as the handle tapers away, but they are both awesome, to be sure
@DapperDanLovesYou
@DapperDanLovesYou 6 жыл бұрын
Liner-locks knives are basically "white collar" knives. They're fine for cutting tasks that don't require a lot of force or pressure. But really, it's never recommended that you use _any_ folding knife for a fixed knife job.
@stgeorge6947
@stgeorge6947 6 жыл бұрын
Dapper Dan if you don't trust liner locks look at the rat 1 video hathcocked made, his buddy's rat 1 held up ok in Afghanistan so I'm pretty sure they are fine for you. You have to be really fat to break a good liner lock..
@stgeorge6947
@stgeorge6947 6 жыл бұрын
Dapper Dan People seem to want one knife for all tasks these days. They won't find it in a folder or a fixed blade
@vsxlr-_-3734
@vsxlr-_-3734 8 жыл бұрын
Great Aussie review mate!!
@Samcity275
@Samcity275 7 жыл бұрын
cool vid bro...I have the same color delica4 and a Rat1 I love them both but my favorite edc is the spyderco delica by far 👌
@EDKG
@EDKG 8 жыл бұрын
Good comparison, thanks. I just wish you'd told us how large your hands are (or even your glove size would have been helpful) so that the viewer can get a better idea of the scale of the knives. Thumbs down.
@CedricAda
@CedricAda 8 жыл бұрын
+EveryDay Knife Guy - GIVEAWAY OPEN This comment made my large size brain implode
@DapperDanLovesYou
@DapperDanLovesYou 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah. It'd be nice to know what glove size he wears.
@stgeorge6947
@stgeorge6947 6 жыл бұрын
EveryDay Knife Guy knob
@swolf4444
@swolf4444 6 жыл бұрын
He did, watch the video
@kleinbottled79
@kleinbottled79 8 жыл бұрын
For the same price as the Rat 2 you can get a Byrd Meadowlark 2. Which is even better ergos than the Delica (imho), same blade shape, lesser steel. Having bought several Byrd's and a couple Ontarios, the Ontarios have pretty much the best build quality available in that price range. The Byrds have the best ergos. Pick which is more important too you. Or, like me, buy both and still not know which is king of cheap EDC knives. --Oh edit to add. If your hands are medium or smaller the ergos on the Rat 2 are quite good, maybe 8/10 to the meadowlarks 9.5/10
@Frip36
@Frip36 6 жыл бұрын
You're suggesting people buy a knife with a super cheap feeling handle.
@stgeorge6947
@stgeorge6947 6 жыл бұрын
Captain Sunday because it cost £20. Good recommendation if u ask me hence why alot of people compare the Byrd and spydercos knives. The delica costs about £90 here in UK fuck that
@atatkfighter
@atatkfighter 6 жыл бұрын
kleinbottled79 That Meadowlark 2 is so underrated. I rotate between a Delica 4 saber grind w/ FRN handle and a Meadowlark Full Flat Grind w/ G10 handle as part of my EDC and I love both.
@prepared2thrive101
@prepared2thrive101 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mate. 👍🏻😁👍🏻
@dade4537
@dade4537 Жыл бұрын
You don't want your knife to close easily as to chop your fingers, bud. I have a double lock on my crkt m16.
@myvenusinuranus
@myvenusinuranus 6 жыл бұрын
Aussie dollar is pretty close to the Canadian dollar
@TheGamerGuy1981
@TheGamerGuy1981 3 жыл бұрын
Once the Rat 2 was in D2 it wasn't even a close contest anymore, and if you're going to pay more for a sprint run of the delica the Chaparral is a better option in build, steel and price. The delica just really dated and feels cheap for its price even when this video was made, now in 2020? The delica however is basically what I use as a loaner knife now.
@dizocilpine
@dizocilpine 5 жыл бұрын
rat 1 in d2 for 38$
@Aspirek2
@Aspirek2 7 жыл бұрын
The rat 2 does not run IKBS
@desertfoxxx98
@desertfoxxx98 6 жыл бұрын
Daniel Cosgrove well no, what do you expect for a $30 knife.
@grizzlycountry1030
@grizzlycountry1030 7 жыл бұрын
I love the rat 2. Spyderco just always seems bulky in the pocket and fragile. Had many spyderco knives break a tip while in the pocket. If I had to choose one for edc I'd go with the rat 2.
@Frip36
@Frip36 6 жыл бұрын
No offense, but that's hard to believe.
@desertfoxxx98
@desertfoxxx98 6 жыл бұрын
Grizzly Country how the fuck do you break a knife tip while it's folded up in your pocket!? Sorry but i also find that hard to believe.
@grizzlycountry1030
@grizzlycountry1030 6 жыл бұрын
Simply by bending and actually working hard for a living. Many times I reached in my pocket at the end of the day to get the change out and grabbed the sharp tip that was mixed in.
@NoNo-uy2bq
@NoNo-uy2bq 2 жыл бұрын
@@grizzlycountry1030 how do you catch the tip when it’s closed?
@GorillaBikeRider
@GorillaBikeRider 11 ай бұрын
@@NoNo-uy2bq six years later and this still makes no sense.
@carlocruz4814
@carlocruz4814 8 жыл бұрын
Both are frnThe rat is not g10.
@CedricAda
@CedricAda 8 жыл бұрын
Duly noted! Explains the sheen!
@carlocruz4814
@carlocruz4814 8 жыл бұрын
I dont know exactly but yesterday My rat 2 fell in the sand and the sand grains nicked the scales..
@desertfoxxx98
@desertfoxxx98 6 жыл бұрын
Daniel Laing glock doesn't use nylon6.
@robertb.3651
@robertb.3651 5 жыл бұрын
Ridiculous pricing i go with Ganzo !
@sputumtube
@sputumtube 7 жыл бұрын
Did you say the Delica is $100 more than the Rat 2.....? And did you say the Rat 2 has G10 scales...?
@Frip36
@Frip36 6 жыл бұрын
Yes. Yes he did. Professional reviewer, so just trust him.
@desertfoxxx98
@desertfoxxx98 6 жыл бұрын
Captain Sunday it's not g10, it's nilon6.
@nopponboonmakul4308
@nopponboonmakul4308 7 жыл бұрын
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@markcastro476
@markcastro476 7 жыл бұрын
Rat 2 liner is weak. Sad
@Frip36
@Frip36 6 жыл бұрын
What is your basis for saying this?
@desertfoxxx98
@desertfoxxx98 6 жыл бұрын
Mark castro no it isn't.
@blazerdude89
@blazerdude89 3 жыл бұрын
Why would you make this video? The rat is literally a fraction of the price. These knives aren't even remotely comparable.
@CedricAda
@CedricAda 3 жыл бұрын
So I should delete it then because there is no possible way it served anyone any benefit - even as general entertainment. Also, its about half the price. I guess 1/2 is a fraction though so I guess you’ve got me there.
@donaldcho21
@donaldcho21 7 жыл бұрын
liner locks suck. go with the delica
@desertfoxxx98
@desertfoxxx98 6 жыл бұрын
Donald Cho you don't know anything about knives do you? Liner lock's are fine, i carry slip joints i have no problem's.
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