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Passing red signals isn’t part of a train operators job. On the mainline this driver wouldn’t be allowed back out driving after two signals passed at danger in 2 years. The mainline railway is far more stringent. Her attitude is completely wrong

​@@stevesje71 this is why I've always had the opinion women should never be Train Drivers or Bus Drivers, their poor backwards attitude. "it's part of the job to hit a car" or "it's part of the having SPAD's". I mean see where she's coming from I think she means it can happen, but having that thought will stress you out. It's not too hard to adhere to signals, most important part of the job after passenger safety.

Her attitude is absolutely abysmal. She should have been fired.

I’d imagine she hasn’t lasted until now as a driver, not with that attitude. She’s probably a manager now! ;-)

@@nedseagoon5101 Yeah true, pretty sure that attitude just makes her even more attractive to promote!

This was almost 20 years ago, doubt she still works there,

@@nedseagoon5101 Agree. She didn't show the right aptitude for the job. She wont be a driver now.

You can rest easy she isn't a driver anymore.. she runs a cake/baking business.. at least she's not in front of a ten tonne train and risk to killing people

I'm an ex driver for my local train in Venezuela (IFE railway) and this is true...the trains I operated are capable of going well over 150kmph, about a year before I quit my job to start college we had a malfunction of the entire signal system, so we were in manual mode, and I was easily going 100kmph when I noticed another unit WITH PAX IN IT in the distance which was stopped due to technical issues (notice a pattern?), I enabled emergency brakes and full regen, and only had about 30 meters to spare, it was my mistake as I realized too late and should have braked sooner, I documented it and told about it to my supervisors...and they told me and a few other drivers who had a similar issue during that mass signal failure that "admitting you're wrong doesn't make you look weak, but rather the opposite, and that a smug, disrespectful approach will get you nowhere and open you no doors". I willingly went through a week of retraining just so the memory and the refresh would be burned into my brain to avoid this kind of incident again

That high horse is really high up there, be careful not to fall off. Not to excuse her actions and mistakes, but this comment is as smug as she is.

She doesn't need to go back to training, she just needs to be off the lines as an operator permanently. She should be put to clean the trains instead

@@basedgodstrugglin No, it isn't. That comment by @jaymeade9898 isn't smug at all. Miranda is a disaster waiting to happen. Don't tell me, you're a sloppy Tube driver too and want to defend your mate.

True, but worse, it shows she has a personality type that just can’t stand taking responsibility (especially when there’s nothing or nobody around that the blame can be shifted to. That drives them crazy. They feel trapped and that’s when their attitude, like you mentioned, comes to the surface.

@@danielwoodhouse8720 Thats just pushing them all over the edge not true

The thing is it's not excessively bad and it does happen (drivers make mistakes everywhere, overruns, spads etc), but she needs to have a "I'm not going to let it happen" approach to it and even though they didn't end in trouble, she should still appreciate going forward that she should observe aspects more and not make it a frequent occurrence. 2 spads in 2 years is certainly a borderline for concern. Despite that, credit where credit is due, when you make mistakes on the job is it important you are completely honest, aid with the investigation and leave no detailed unturned which from the looks of things she was cooperative and gave all the detail for the investigation (otherwise you wouldn't find yourself very long in the job). Even if you know you're wrong, like having taken a drug, been on alcohol, packing your bag when you shouldn't have been, it is extremely important you tell everything BEFORE the substance and alcohol test at the first possible convenience, it will be alot nicer for you going forward than waiting for a drug test to incriminate you. Her problem here is a common one. Drivers should always check their signal aspect before they move off, even IF a conductor onboard has given them the start command. This is one of the reasons why DRAs are used.

By that time they had annoyed the you-know-what out of her. Showed her a C-list horror video of a speeding train for no good reason. Her fault wasn't speeding but relying on routine and not being vigilant to the signal. I didn't see anything to correct that, they only tried to make her feel bad about herself. Anyone would've had enough of that after a while.

no harm if she doesn't hit anything.

@@emily1 2 SPADs in 2 years is excessive on the mainline and is a very serious cause for concern. I’ve found that there is a culture difference between mainline and LU where spads are concerned.

That's what happens when instead of trying to find the best people for the job, you're trying to attract people who aren't interested in the job to begin with. Maybe if TfL didn't make sexism as their core policy for hiring new drivers, their drivers would care more about SPADs.

Agree that she has an attitude issue, but in fairness I think many people would have trouble taking that SPAD video seriously, cheap parody horror film that it was.

@@CristiNeagu More male drivers had caused crashes, SPADS and incidents than females on the tube.

@@billpugh58 And? What's your point? What does that have to do with what I said?

Bet its now "as a train driver you have SPADs" because she doesn't seem to care at all.

@@cyberleaderandy1exactly she doesn’t care

Thank God for that! "Everyone makes mistakes, we're not robots!" That, in combination with the sulky spoilt brat expression on her face, horrified me.

She’s probably a manager now…

@@nedseagoon5101 Yeah ... of McDonalds maybe.

She's still a driver!

@@AlexMetroman Wait! How?!

even in NYC she would be send back to training for a year england is fucking wired japan also trwats there workers like shit

And thats why in Japan there has been a number of accidents, most fatally the Amagasaki derailment, due to overworked, overstressed and fearful conductors.

This is a stupid example, your comparing a culture that demands perfectionism to this? Absolute joke

​@@Thiefnuker that was quite a while ago now, you rarely hear anything like that happening in Japan these days

That's what I was thinking when she went to see her boss I kept saying "fire her immediately". Her attitude was disgraceful.

Totally early

Wow, great guess! 2003-2006 this show ran.

When I first read your first line I thought you put “Hopefully Miranda didn’t make it to full time prostitution “ 😂

@@pumpakatten probably more suited😂

@@oldschoolpaul73 she wouldn’t earn much.

She's white and English they can do whatever they want

@@MrTargeeLol good one

​@@MrTargeesack of chips on your shoulder?

I've seen it, it's on KZfaq somewhere.

@@jasonpeisley6031 Link?

Victoria line has been automatic since opening in 1967, and driverless trains are only with a driver due to union pressures

most people work to earn money, seems very professional to me.

Your comment strangely contradicts itself to be honest. You answered your own question. Read it again. Joe had every right to tell Miranda, that she caused delays to the service because she is responsible for that. She accidentally put the public in potential danger and caused delays.

@@TheUnknown313 Miranda triggered the computer to stop the train which disrupted the line. Had the computer not stepped in and she got into a crash, the line will be blocked and diversions will be needed for service to continue. So one way or another, she has already caused a disruption, whether is it 10 mins or 10 days, it doesn’t really matter. If Joe wants to nail Miranda for the disruption, he could’ve just said, “You’re very lucky all you caused is a 10 min disruption and not 10 days of closed line, countless injuries and death and a possible criminal case.”

We only saw snippets of the interactions she had. It's important to talk about all the consequences, to reinforce *why* she should take care, not just *that* she should take care.

according to linkedin she now owns a cake company. Perhaps for the best that she's off the tracks.

What’s her name

@@ollie-jkiubn Miranda Sadgrove (6:39)

Definitely built for owning a cake shop 😆

​@@JDBoomhauerIII 😂😂😂😂 or a pie shop 😀😉

Rubbish; if a driver is *looking* for a signal, they'll see it, whether it's incandescent or LED.

@@jackx4311 yeah, and incandescents are less reliable and much less brighter than LEDs at the same power consumption level (yes I watch Technology Connections)

Around 2005/2006. Possibly before the 7/7 attack.

And a section near the end that is the Bakerloo line (I think), certainly not the Northern line - running alongside mainline tracks.

The VHS recorder too 😅

@ScholarGypsyOx The Bakerloo still does that North of Queens Park.

There is nothing stopping you from contacting the company you want to work for and asking about it. Some employers appreciate that kind of initiative.

Crikey - good spot! it certainly looks like her!

Joe didn't say that??? She said she'd be making more money but she also said she liked the job and looked forward to it?? Surely there's nothing wrong with her liking the money aspect.

It sounds like a horror film! Perfect for Halloween or just to scare someone

Ah yes!..My answer would be see if the wheels have gone over the block joint if it has then it becomes an ooops

You still can!

You can still have a spad on an ATO line.

Driving manually is required under signalling failure

No they aren't. It's only the modern trains with newer signalling and the sub surface lines are only partially automated as far as I know.

They take a leak on the third rail.

I think the reason that they don’t know all the speed limits is that they change 600 times along the line… I don’t even think someone could remember them all if you gave them a few years.

@@RockDoesRedstone lmao, there are trains that have more speed limit changes than that, and nobody has an issue remembering them. That’s purely an excuse for bad train operation.

@@TEMPLE7D we have warning speeds saying it will reduce she just didn’t care

@@honyatwashere That’s all I’m saying. It’s just surprising she was allowed to take a test without even knowing the posted speed limits. Even with them being there, she still disregarded

@@TEMPLE7D If I’m being honest, the only reason she would’ve passed training is if she made a good impression and went along with it. You can tell she doesn’t care about her job. This was back years ago though so training strictness has increased no way you would be able to do this on this date. She probably got fired as if you SPAD 2 times that usually means your off the team or you need re-training. This is only for London though other train companies in the uk will make being a driver harder since the tube kinda needs more drivers since the trains run every 1-3 minutes during peak hours and 3-5 during off peak hours. But since other train companies don’t need to run as often they don’t need as many drivers since they only run around every 1-2 hours though. So they usually make driver training harder.

It's nearly 50 years since the Equal Pay and Equal Opportunities legislation came in, do we really still need to remind people of it?

In the documentary it says there’s over 1200 on the line, I bet you couldn’t memorise 1200 signals, exactly where to start slowing down for each individual station platform, and lots of different speed limit changes. It’s a difficult job, more so than you’d think

​@@TrainsOfDorset Not like the stations change.. few times around and the brake points must be basically the same every day. you dont need to memorise signals, you just stop if its red i would imagine..

@@TrainsOfDorset Actually route learning is exactly that, and yes a driver is still learning when driving the route for a while after starting. The other thing is that signals are in the line of sight or have repeaters, and a stop signal is indicated as a caution on a previous signal if it has more than two aspects. A driver should be very aware of signals that often/always at stop for logistical reasons (points etc.) and equally so, if they are closely following another train and see a series of stop or caution signals.

​@@TrainsOfDorset yes it takes some time to memorise these things, but she should be improving on these things. And remember to ALWAYS check the signals at stations before leaving, don't be like Miranda, even if you do see the points change. Signals are there for a reason, and there protocols and procedures for these things.

​@@jasonpeisley6031 exactly and after 2 years she seems to have got lazy and assumed it was at green. Thats bad driving

It’s happening in every industry, I’m afraid. Skills sets are being diluted. Not against women, or anyone doing a particular job. But, choose the person for the right reason. Women in my industry (mainline railway)spend 18 months training, 3 months actually doing the job & then have 2 years off because they’re pregnant! Then have to be retrained at vast expense. While this is happening people like me are covering her jobs at 3am!

This happens in the Irish health service. During the pandemic it was run by someone who had no qualifications or experience in healthcare and he always sounded out of his depth on the news, like he did not understand what he was talking about. Nepotism is/was rife in it and there have been cases of people getting jobs there simply because they had a friend or relative working in the health service

Be mad over something that happened 15+ years ago.

@@eddyk3 found her hubby 🤣