HEATING PIPES | HOW TO FILL THE CHASES

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One of the biggest problems people find when burying heating pipes is that they usually crack the plasterer.
the thing is, expansion from heat is a phenomenal force so rather that trying to force against nature, it's better to work with it.
there are things that plumbers can put around the pipes to give them space to expand but most of the time the plasterer will have to come up with a solution as the culture in the building trade seems to be... Leave it to the next guy.
so if your the next guy, here's a couple of solutions for you that actually work in the real world.
I hope you enjoy this video and thanks for watching 😃👍

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@edthelasttribe9580 4 ай бұрын

The pipe work run in these days is normal , unless client wants to pay more , believe me many plumbers videos you can watch they only upload good ones , there’s the true sight which you wouldn’t see 😂

@v4yt126 4 ай бұрын

normal for sloppy work but in no way correct

@YoutubeHero666 4 ай бұрын

thats not normal thats just plain and simple rough workmanship.

@melvinphillips786 4 ай бұрын

That's one of the worst installations I have ever seen, those pipes were not installed by a real tradesman, cowboy yes, tradesman no.

@melvinphillips786 4 ай бұрын

It's all the plastic push fit pipe and fittings and lack of proper apprenticeships, piss poor lead roof work by roofers and lack of pride in work. We were once the envy of the world for our tradesmen, now it's like the wild west.

@markcroft1303 3 ай бұрын

Then you would recommend the plumber if he does that prep first

@paulnixon4489 4 ай бұрын

I'm a 55 year old,...... old school gas engineer and belive me I would never leave that rough job to the plasterer. Well rescued . If a customer insists on buried pipework it's definitely being run in 15mm copper and I am definitely chasing the pipes in. And cleaning all my shit up.

@charliewillis8527 3 ай бұрын

Yes ther not plumbers now its press fit guns and push fit pipes in walls need to be in felt lagging to allow for expansion and corrosion

@esuohdica 3 ай бұрын

Yeah im counting those speedfit fittings all getting buried!

@keymad4 Ай бұрын

you're obviously a good tradesmen, brilliant.

@patrickhosking613 Ай бұрын

V@@esuohdica and waiting for the leaks to come through.

@nuntiusuk3345 10 күн бұрын

Agreed. That pipework is shameful.

@pompeyjim 4 ай бұрын

I'm no plumber, but I'd take a guess that neither is the geezer that did that pipe work.

@delboy6384 4 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly

@throwawayaccount6517 3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@olismith7460 3 ай бұрын

It probably wasn't the plumbers job to chase the wall out it was probably a builders labourer

@jonmunnings5347 2 ай бұрын

Yeah not within any zone at all....gonna be fun when next person buys the house and goes to fix something to the wall. 😂

@noelburke6224 2 ай бұрын

I am and I agree with you totally a real cowboy both job

@keithodonnell5152 4 ай бұрын

Your apprentice is lucky to have such a good teacher

@gobbledygook4000 4 ай бұрын

This video should have been posted on the first of April. Calling this job done by a plumber is an April fools joke. Top quality work and advice by Kirk

@Dec38105 4 ай бұрын

absolutely shocking....

@user-fq2cf6xf2s 4 ай бұрын

'If you're a plumber you might consider putting your pipes into some sort of conduit' Love your optimism Kirk, dont ever lose it 😂😂

@petemoring67 4 ай бұрын

Your Dad's dead right about leaving it smart for the next guy ..... i went to price up a job after work one day - Big posh property - Electric Gates - Security everywhere - Got let in, knocked the door in my old Plastery Clothes, Long Unkempt Hair, looking like a bit of a Homeless Hobo .... The lady who answered the door was visibly SHOCKED! ... She said; "Well now You're here, you'd better come in I suppose" ... The vibes couldn't have been more negative .... Anyway, i got the job because they were desperate! to get it ready for the painter ... I finished it (A Bathroom) got paid and thought I was lucky to get out with that!! ..... Next week, She phones me out of the blue, full of praise because her Painter had told her it was the best plaster finish he'd ever painted over ...... She kept me there, going back every few weeks to do more & more work for Her ... Whether it needed doing or NOT! 😂😂 ... So YES!! - The Moral of the story?? ... Keep it tidy, keep it clean, keep it GOOD! 👍🤠

@Cruioooi78 4 ай бұрын

Nobody asked pal

@CEO786 4 ай бұрын

⁠@@Cruioooi78I asked, no one asked for your negative input. 😮 nice one Peter! ❤

@Cruioooi78 4 ай бұрын

@@CEO786 i dont think so pal , move on its Sunday

@unknownt7648 4 ай бұрын

@@Cruioooi78who are ya

@weeniebeastie 4 ай бұрын

@@unknownt7648I’ll tell you who he is….a right plonker with nothing good to say.

@stephenkayll5241 3 ай бұрын

That plumber should be ashamed leaving it looking like that, but he won't, that's why he left it like that. Well rescued. Lots of great tips, very educational.

@noelburke6224 2 ай бұрын

The person who done that is no plumber

@Batesey86 Ай бұрын

Push fit it the wall ,, shocking

@cronocide Ай бұрын

When you know a guy that can do it cheaper.

@davidhughes3051 15 күн бұрын

Very impressive, good to see a skilled tradesman who takes pride in his work. Shout out to your Dad Kirk 👌

@xxnonstopdancingxx 3 ай бұрын

Decorator here. I'd be over the moon walking into that. Nice job

@jonathanbond915 3 ай бұрын

If only KZfaq was full of decent videos like this. Not the circus that seems to becoming, sponsored and influenced. Keep up the good work and content.

@paulsmith2931 3 ай бұрын

It takes a good tradesman to sort out a bad tradesman’s work, brilliant work there sorting that dodgy plumbers work out, I’m a plumber with 35 years experience and I’ve never left pipe work in that state before👍🏻

@jeffsmith2144 4 ай бұрын

That was a Friday afternoon job!!! Plumber could smell the Weatherspoons beer mats 😅😅

@user-dd4qq8zq3d 4 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@StevieMc1971 3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@jbclassics 4 ай бұрын

Hello Kirk I'm a time served Plumber with 51yrs experience and my Dad was a Plasterer. If I left pipework like that my life wouldn't be worth living. Just pure laziness and couldn't care less attitude. It is probably functional but just crap work. Plastic has such a high coefficient of expansion! What was he thinking!! Also you can't find it with the stud finder if you wanted to screw into the wall. Anyways you managed to save the job, looked like the customer was thankful😂

@SRafique100 Ай бұрын

Aluminium foil over the pipe?

@Mobile-pd1uc 3 ай бұрын

Maybe worth waiting till the person paints those patches and then show them in the video at the end. That way we can see how much of a neat job you have done. Excellent work, looks like tough graft but very rewarding.

@nigelbrooks3606 Ай бұрын

I was a plumber gas engineer for 55 years and like you very conscientious in my work and a very clean and tidy worker. My pay back was to have work 365 days a year for 55 years if I wanted or needed it. I make you 100% right in your work ethics. Only difference to me and some other plumber/ gas engineers I used to walk away with the job completed holes toothed out bricked blocked and plastered. A carpenter electrician and timer etc. Just done a big kitchen at age 71 and the kitchen supplier wants to feature my kitchen. I fit as a fiddle and can run spits of mist young guys. 😂 Keep the good work up mate👍

@Onthetrowel Ай бұрын

I love comments like this 🙏👌

@TerrencePilgrim-du5fs 17 күн бұрын

We re built our 1869 Victorian Timber frame House. They were also Bodgers. The plane marks, chisel cuts & saw marks were all over the place. The plaster was 2 to 3 inches thick. Full of hair & all sorts of grit. The nails looked like they were from someone's teeth. A blacksmith made all the fittings. You could still see hammer marks from flat & pein headed blows. In short it was glorious. Wonder what archaeologists will make of our kraft using modern process, engineered components & time savers in general. Will the houses last? The only real fault was none or little foundations porous bricks, lime mortar with too much moisture & no damp course. Floor bearers layer on rammed earth. Woodworm in untreated timber. No vapour check under the hand made roof tiles. Vermin & insects, birds & a clay sub base saw to the rest. The house is the last of two left on our Hill. Both joined by a thick old wall of bricks, laid with shovels probably. The top finish & materials used were probably sourced locally. ie. In the county of Greater London / Essex. That's exactly where all our second hand materials came from. Making good from the best of old buildings around the same age. With new electrics, plumbing & services. Thank you. On The Trowel. Good engagement. Terry.

@martinmorgan9 3 ай бұрын

There are many useful tips here about the correct choice of materials - thank you for your detailed explanations as you went along. I was shocked by the clumsy and lazy way the plumber had installed the flexible piping below the radiator - I'd never allow that in MY house!

@DunkingJaffaCakes 11 күн бұрын

Good stuff. "Take your time and get it neat". If only more contractors took a little more pride in their work like this.

@Sandysand701 5 күн бұрын

The expanding foam looks the fastest way of making it good, and will insulate the pipes as well, however it will easy damage if bashed! Another way would be to pin the pipes back as much as possible, then wedged wire mesh over them, also pushing the mesh behind the plasterboard top and bottom, then give it a thin coat of bonding with accelerator to send it off quick, then fill out with bonding to the boards, and use fiber tape over the joints before skimming.

@Participant616 4 ай бұрын

That plumbing is utter shit, how has the customer accepted that?

@steveingram5245 4 ай бұрын

I'm no plumber, I have got to agree what a sh*t job that Cowboy has done with that pipe work

@neiltitmus9744 4 ай бұрын

Little things wrong make a big difference

@tonykyle5229 4 ай бұрын

Those push fit fittings shouldn't be in a wall to start with, then wrap the pipes in hessian lagging, I'm a plumber by the way, shit job from the plumber, not to mention the boiler flue

@Neverforget133 4 ай бұрын

Terrible plumbing no fittings allowed inside the wall its that basic

@cainjake7940 4 ай бұрын

@@tonykyle5229exactly never bury a pushfit

@TheHungryTrollRawr 4 ай бұрын

I know the money wouldn't be the same, but you'd make a very good plastering college teacher, Kirk. You can see you have a passion for it, I went to college for a different trade and I had an old teacher there Mr. Morris who was brilliant with us. He cared so much we didn't fall behind on our course that he even came in when he was really sick bless him!

@trust_plumbing 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing that mate, im a plumber and tiler but ive never understood plasterers. For my money one of the hardest jobs in the trade so lots of respect. Very diplomatic too, id never have left those pipes like that but your solution was brilliant. Also good to see another Northern lad on the tube, no offence to lads from darn sarf but i often think everone imagines all builders are bald cockneys lol. Cheers brother.

@chrisseaber1803 4 ай бұрын

Great workmanship and the fact your being political against the shit work you been left with is a great way to be. Instead of complaining and moaning your giving advice and finding solutions. Love it

@malmes999 4 ай бұрын

36:25 Always think about the others coming in after you ! i was taught that from an old Joiner when i was 17 i said that will do and he went off it with me !! lesson learned from a young age and he was 100% spot on! keep up the good work 👍

@eddjordan2399 4 ай бұрын

wow that pipework was shocking

@mickclarke5741 3 ай бұрын

Proper

@rdbanks2823 4 ай бұрын

Another ace job Kirk! Its always a complete pleasure watching a master at work! Thank you!

@davideyres955 4 ай бұрын

Jesus that plumber who did the chase at the start is a cowboy. Using push fit is only ok when you can get to them when they leak, burying them in a wall you’re stuffed. Plastering over copper is also terrible as well as there is a risk that the plaster could attack the copper or solder. You’re spot on with the conduit, allowing for expansion is exactly right.

@chrisowen8664 4 ай бұрын

Hi Thanks for a very good and straightforward video ,your work is first class and magic .From an old decorator ,who does small plastering projects and would like to be as skilled as you .Regards Chris 👍😁

@sidefmovies 3 ай бұрын

You made that look so easy. Massive respect, skill mixed with experience. Great video thanks.

@MrLarryc73 Ай бұрын

Shocking pipework but fantastic plastering and that tune at the end 🎶❤️

@enemyofthestatewearein7945 4 ай бұрын

Nice work and some great tips. I think a lot of DIY plasterers get put off by starting out with a patch job, not realizing that it's one of the most difficult jobs to do and get a good result. Whole walls are much easier, but I'd recommend anyone's first attempt to be a small ceiling like a WC. Ceilings are easy, because the plaster doesn't fall off the trowel when you work into the edges. That's all kind of counter intuitive.

@winterroadspokenword4681 3 ай бұрын

Definitely counterintuitive mate. I wouldn’t recommend a ceiling for a learning experience. A pantry wall or airing cupboard back wall would be my shout. Even if you don’t need to do it. Very easy to replaster if you mess up.

@lestertennysonsmith-xw2fm 4 ай бұрын

I done a bit o diy plastering recently and found myself saying in my mind "take a little bit,go in neat" lol

@stevenhickman8957 3 ай бұрын

Great video I always run 15 mm copper or other heating pipes in 20 mm pvc conduit you can then plaster straight over, never cracks after. You can also fit the conduit after the pioes are installed by cutting a line on one side and pressing over the pipes.

@paulthompson1154 4 ай бұрын

Ive 35 years of plastering Kirk ,fill in ,bed scrim in it used to be (hesian or cotton ) lol ,ive never had any come backs 👍

@toplad81 Ай бұрын

So would you bond the pipes in, scrim and then plaster over? (I’m doing this soon)… I would appreciate your opinion. Thanks

@LS-td3dz 4 ай бұрын

If only plasterers in my area were like you. Very tidy work mate.

@isyt1 Ай бұрын

I’m so impressed with this guy!

@topgazza 3 ай бұрын

Beautifully described. Your apprentice will learn the right way to do things

@tomisthomasthetankadventur1526 Ай бұрын

Your works great. That plumber should be ashamed of himself 😂

@rodgerdodger7912 3 ай бұрын

You skills are tremendous and your a brilliant plasterer without doubt. The plumber should be ashamed of themselves. Horrendous work by them. You'll fix it big man. Don't doubt it!!!!

@andicrompton5706 3 ай бұрын

What I recommend is calling a decent plumber getting him to do his job properly then come in and skim up 👌

@TheCreatorSupreme15 4 ай бұрын

Amazing video Kirk. Just learnt even more. Thanks.❤

@desrobertson9803 Ай бұрын

make it look so easy dude total respect

@johnkushnirenko4337 4 ай бұрын

Another cracking job.well done kirk

@maxwellmc9734 3 ай бұрын

Brilliant information and great to see how you fix the bits we never see..

@simbosimbo 3 ай бұрын

being plastering 10 plus years and I'm still learning new skills , kirk i take my hat off to you your a credit to all plasterers I've learnt new skills watching your videos thank you 👍👍👍

@MarcusT86 4 ай бұрын

Fantastic as always Kirk

@marcjonkers6774 3 ай бұрын

You are a true professional, amazing!

@TheBigstve 3 ай бұрын

You are a very good plaster mate, credit where due.

@lifter98 4 ай бұрын

Great. I love seeing attention to detail on a job…

@bigjohn5689 4 ай бұрын

That pipework is shocking

@joekeo318 2 ай бұрын

The plumber must be smoking the pipe first

@Oliversmith17 4 ай бұрын

What a lash up from the plumber rad should of come off and left with tails to the rad valves!! Pony work from the plumber and I’m a bricklayer!!

@dangermouse00 4 ай бұрын

The days when one trade left everything neat n tidy for the next are long gone. Sadly we live in a fast paced what it done now society,allowing those void of interity earn a wage with minimal effort. Nice to see someone with pride in their work.

@ario7865 3 ай бұрын

Great video Kirk, very helpful- thanks!

@michellefoster1020 3 ай бұрын

At least you work with other trades plumbers electricians not against them. So nice to see x

@Jonnyturboable 2 ай бұрын

Great videos mate I’ve never plastered a wall in my life but I’ve just spent the last 2 and a half hours learning and having a laugh with you! Cheers look after yourself 👍🫡

@Onthetrowel 2 ай бұрын

🙂🙏 thanks for the support and thanks for commenting mate

@Smeisterman 4 ай бұрын

Your videos are priceless 👏Thank you 🙏

@v4yt126 4 ай бұрын

Shoddy plumbing job there

@riptiz 4 ай бұрын

That pipework looks shocking stuck out the wall. Nice job Kirk. 👍Regards, Dave

@johnjtplastering6991 3 ай бұрын

If going to have pipework stick out the wall at least put it in an electrical box with blanking plate and drill holes out for pipes shocking pipework that

@davidturner3180 27 күн бұрын

Great help and advice thanks 👍

@darylbettess6523 3 ай бұрын

That pipework under the rad is laughable 😂

@isyt1 Ай бұрын

Yep. Lazy plumber. They’ll have known fine well they were leaving it flush with the wall and causing problems for the plasterer

@Jackzuk 4 ай бұрын

How turning up to that plumbing work did not make u angry i dont know, but then i made it looks so easy when fixing it, legend

@neilrafferty2097 4 ай бұрын

Shocking work

@danyo1972 Ай бұрын

Great work. Good plasterers are true craftsmen.

@cliveramsbotty6077 4 ай бұрын

that 'plumber' has had an absolute shocker mate

@youtoob1811 3 ай бұрын

So many great tips, but that tip of marking the around the already cut plasterboard and then cutting the hole is great. Could've used that many times in the past.

@roostercogburn9097 2 ай бұрын

The tip with cutting the foam back is class 👍 what a difference to a saw

@waterboy8999 Ай бұрын

I always use an old hacksaw blade, works a treat.

@donatoferioli7426 3 ай бұрын

I'm glad somebody else uses Easyfix foam. I don't feel like as much as a Cowboy.

@iain2979 4 ай бұрын

Lovely job Kirk

@stevenclark1973 4 ай бұрын

Brilliant.. very neat. Great tips.

@gtube6913 3 ай бұрын

These yt videos are so important to show us, good people are in the labour trades. Uploader can't go do a poor job now either with this reference video.😅

@DangerousDaveSlater 4 ай бұрын

Exactly what I do.. made me laugh, literally everything you do step by step is exactly the same as me. Good man Kirk, nice job - proper job 💪👏👏👏👌😎

@Onthetrowel 4 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

@davidmelling9301 4 ай бұрын

Top class mate nice clean work it's Really hard to patch up and it be dead on

@letloverule100 3 ай бұрын

Pure craftsmanship

@antonpollard2693 4 ай бұрын

Kirk might be an idea for the kids tshirt "lil plasterer in the mix" 😊 Great work!

@MrMedicalUK Ай бұрын

Man that tee under the radiator is killing me 😂😂😂😂😂

@cannonEDHA 3 ай бұрын

Lovely work mate

@tonymcfadyen8302 Ай бұрын

Good video Kirk. I would be delighted if most of the pipe chases i had to patch up were that neat. What drives me nuts is when you leave a wall/ceiling all nicely polished, then sparky comes in and cuts wee holes all over the place to fish and run cables. "Its alright, it's just a wee patch, it'll take you 5 mins"......

@catweasel5166 4 ай бұрын

Hi mate. Don’t know if you’ll see this but I’ve done 2 artex ceilings over the Easter weekend having never plastered before. Your videos have been brilliant to give me the confidence (which is most important) to tackle it. I need a bit of caulking around the edges but other than that I’m well happy with the results and no plasterer would do the job anyway as it was too little work.

@SuperAndy135 Ай бұрын

Iv never seen neater work it's incredible

@70scoff 3 ай бұрын

You're a smart man that thinks about his work at his expense? Do the best job at all costs

@marcmcgettigan3580 2 ай бұрын

brilliant work pleasure to watch

@markhannan4712 4 ай бұрын

Brilliant work mate

@scotthaxell556 4 ай бұрын

Top job m8 … I was a Artexer and if you come to a pattern is on thick scrape it off and apply SBR leave for 24 hrs and you can apply your plaster and your never ever a problem if you use pva you still have to wait 24hrs for applying your plaster, if you do this artex won’t remove from the ceiling or walls this is only if you have to scrape back Artex ❤ love your channel 🙏🏽

@RowenaMorgan-fo4cg 3 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this video. I have plasterer arriving in a few days after the electrician have done their thing. I was worried they would see the pipes and say I would have to get the plumbers back out to redo.

@danfenton89 4 ай бұрын

Great job again mate 🧱👌

@daves4026 11 күн бұрын

Superb skills thanks for sharing

@johnsmart4692 4 ай бұрын

Good post learned a few good tips 🎯✅😁🧐

@grahamcolquhoun2295 4 ай бұрын

Nice one very helpful, thank you

@ernestogonzalez17 4 ай бұрын

Great videos mate !

@TheYorkshireCarper 4 ай бұрын

quality job lads.

@benclarkson4205 3 ай бұрын

When I saw the thumbnail I knew the comments section was going to be gold!

@user-jh8no1zb9e 3 ай бұрын

Damn - this guy is good

@adamlee3029 Ай бұрын

💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥 on point man 10/10. normally I’ve got a blender in with eazyfil shocking.

@mickshillito2199 4 ай бұрын

Well done kirk another silk purse made out of a sows ear 😂 hope you're watching and learning Leyton 😅 great camera work bye the way x

@julianlyons711 3 ай бұрын

Good video and info like your style .. keep it up

@declanbutler5876 4 ай бұрын

Nice job . I know loads of plasterers that can't patch . Its completely different to skimming walls . Decorator will have no bother with them patches .

@joeglabus7255 4 ай бұрын

Yes kirk i have pipes in same situation and thats just confirmed what i was going to 👍i wzs going lag pipes and bond it and skim. And i got a good plumber in 😂

@S-Theo Ай бұрын

wedging against the valve .. brilliant idea

@Onthetrowel Ай бұрын

I thought so aswell. I did the trick perfectly

@mal6297 4 ай бұрын

great job

@markrainford1219 4 ай бұрын

Many many years ago, a well meaning person told me to wrap the pipes in scrunched up tin foil to prevent cracking. It went on a treat,- holds itself in place great. Ten years later all my pipes are starting to pinhole. Electrolytic corrosion caused by aluminium in contact with copper. So, don't be tempted to do that.