Greetings Bill, enjoy your channel🎉. Regards Elizabeth

60 years old and still a very impressive model. Just ooozes charm and robustness.

Never fails to put smile on my face, seeing each problem overcome. Great tenacity Bill 👍🏻👍🏻

What a great job you done there on a lovely old loco ever thought of being a surgeon LOL nice one Bill

Hi OOBill, Interesting tube cast regarding the EM2. The very rare ones the light BR blue of which I had in 70's and which I wish I still owned! On the roof theirs a slider switch that switches power from the bogies to the psntographs. They never were very fast runners for some reason, 2 friends had them too. 27000 Electras now preserved at the Midland Railway Centre in Derbyshire where I live. It was brought back from the Netherlands who BR sold them too. I too enjoy buying non runners from ebay....... so watch out! Kind regards Pete

You have worked your magic again. Fantastic as always. Understand the care one needs for something that old and special. Superb. A joy to see and hear at the end. 😎

I have a green Electra in very good condition. The sliding switch on the roof (centre rectangular block of the three) allows you to set it to pick up from the track or from the catenary. This video has helped me to look at servicing my own model.

These EM2s where sold to the Netherlands in the seventies where they provided good service for another 10 years or more. At least 2 survive. One in the Netherlands and one was returned to the UK.

Sounds like a Stuka ! Great looking loco Bill.

Great old model,glad to see it going again.Well done Bill.

Good Morning Bill, The EM2 class 77 Co-Co was used between Manchester and Sheffield via Peniston as were the EM1 class 76 Bo-Bo, they were based at Reddish Depot at Manchester running on 1500 volt DC on freight there were 7 class 77's built in 1954 at Gorton and there were 58 class 76's built at Doncaster in 1950 26000 Tommy was built 1941 in Doncaster.

Nice service bill, nice looking model, one benefit of doing these repairs you do get to see other things some like you say you've never seen before! Must be nice to see some guest engines on the layout from time to time. Good man you've got bucket loads of knowledge and care you put into these problems. Looking forward to seeing what next. Take care Eddy xx

You have just helped me fix the top switch that switches between overhead power and track power, when you got the motor bogie out I realised there was a part on the one you had that was connected in a different place compared to mine, thanks for the help.

Six of the real thing was built in 1954 to haul passengers across the Manchester to Sheffield 1500V DC overhead system best known as the Woodhead line. All these class EM2s (would have been class 77 in the modern system) were named after classical Goddesses. There was a plan at one stage to build 21 more and to electrify the line at 1500V DC all the way down to London but this was shelved once the mainline electrification standard for overhead was changed to 25KV. Withdrawn in 1968 and sold to the Dutch railways were they were rebuilt and continued working up until 1985. The Triang model was highly prized and is a very good model for its time. A Heljan model has replaced it which cooled the prices of Triang ones considerably. The model could take power from either the track or via its pantograph, hence that rotating part on the top of the spider. The switch is the centre of the 3 longer oblongs on the roof, slides back. Still a lovely bit of kit and a reminder of what was Britain’s first electrified main line and it benefits from your attention.

Really enjoyed this one - It was great to see this run round the track!

The EM2 was developed from the EM1 which - amazingly! - was a Nigel Gresley design.

Great video you are so cheerful and love watching your repairs.

I was given one of these for Christmas as child, it was a CKD so I had to build it. It was never a fast model (in real life they were restricted to slow speeds anyway), but if it can pull a decent load, then I think that is all that can be hoped for. I used to love seeing the sparks form the catenary when running at night. I've now got one of the Olivia's Trains versions (and a couple of class 76s too) fitted with sound and they are fantastic models.

After a very cautious approach it didn't take long before the hammer came out...Did the trick though. You transformed that into a lovely little runner.

Nice to see such a classic model restored to working order! Excellent work!

Beautiful model ❤️

Triang EM2 I have a green version the switch for the overhead pantograph is the middle long moulded piece on top that slides.

Thanks for this. I have a green version, bought back in the early 1960s when I was a teenager building my layout. One of my favourite locos at the time, although the catenary system was a bit of a fiddle. I still have the model, but I'd painted it blue way back then. I managed to buy another Electra a few months back, but as you have said, the good ones are approaching £180 or more. I remember it always being a noisy runner too!

Used on Woodhead route from Sheffield Victoria now defunct to Manchester and Wath coalyards to Manchester.

Bill ran on the Manchester to Sheffield line now closed and used by electricity network through the former Woodhead tunnels. Usually ran double headed mainly coal, occasionally mixed traffic and passengers.

As other posters have said, these ran on the Pennine "Woodhead route". A pre-WW2 modernisation concept, it finally opened in 1954 and two years later government decided to adopt AC as a UK electrification standard, making the DC route a white elephant.

Overhead electrical pickups are called pantographs.

These would have run on the now defunct woodhead line Manchester to Sheffield

S3374 !!!!! After watching this I went downstairs and took a second look at mine which hasn’t been running. That part was missing and I guess when i was putting it back together I must gave misplaced it. Now I will need to turn the place upside down to find it or I put it on a list to order 👍

The speed limit for woodhead was 60 mph but one of the EM2's did 90 mph on a demo run for the dutch , must have impressed them because they bought the lot so it doesn't need to go that fast unless your selling it to the Dutch lol

I'm not sure whether or not I like the look of these locomotives or not. Either way you've done it again Bill

6m 33 secs, removing the magnet without a "keeper" causes demagnetisation, a major drop off in magnetic strength, you need to have a metal "keeper" around the poles of the magnet to preserve the strength of the magnet, see the Triang Service Sheet

Pantographs work with catenary systems, I think you shall find, that they were used with trams and trolleybuses, the first electric train in the world, was the Volks Electric Railway in Brighton, I assume the first catenary system for trains was probably in Switzerland.

A lovely model and no question. I have a 31 that runs slowly too, and i had to move the worms in. I've been thinking about how to replace the bearing as well as the bush. the gear wear always seems to correlate to broken bushes. another impressive repair best wishes will

Hi Bill, You are right about the price. Good boxed ones go for about £200.00. In real life this engine used to run on the Woodhead line pulling both passenger and coal trains. I used to live close to the line. You could also try early Triang class 31 engine wheels as a replacement for the worn gears.

Yes in Triang terms these are not that numerous. Introduced in 1961 in green it then went to electric blue and then BR Blue as this one is . Dating from 1968-1972 . Triang wanted another electric loco to increase popularity of their catenary system . Trix already produced the EM1 (class 76) so Triang did the EM2 (class 77) . Very well regarded at the time and to this day . Quite an accurate model . The motor bogie was developed for this and went onto go in the Class 31 and 37 . It was designed to operate either from track or catenary which meant you could operate two locos independently on the track at the same time . The switch is neatly concealed in a roof panel . If you ever come across a Triang AL1 (class 81) it had a similar system but was a Bo-Bo . Really quite a smart system considering this was 50 years ago. If you don’t already know it have a look at Oscar Paisleys KZfaq site which has lots of great period models . He had covered the 77 quite recently . Sorry I’m a bit of a Triang bore as it’s my childhood!

Pontograph goes up to contact the catenary. Kind regards Dave

These Class 77 models were designed by Triang to either operate from the track ( traditional 2 rail) or from the track and an overhead catenary wire via the pantograph. Somewhere on the model is a switch to facilitate this ( without getting Pat Hammonds book down And checking I can’t remember where it is. The power bogie has a marker on it to show how the locomotive is orientated on the track when collecting power from the overhead. Some of the noise is due to it having ribbed wheels and also the fact the flanges are a little on the large size for System 6 track so they are running on the sleepers.

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I forgot to tell you was.first line was run by overhead cables just after the war 1947

Sorry to say this but you may have made an error, as the electrical arrangement at the top of the bogie is different on the EM2 to the other models with similar bogies, the pick up strip should not be connected to the brass retaining nut atop of the bogie, the contacts inside the body contact the pick up strip, current is taken from the body contact or the pantograph depending on the position of the switch, current then flows through the sliding strip that retains the bogie then through the large brass nut. Whilst the loco will work fine when powered from the track, you could not now power this from the overhead and have another loco powered from the track on the same section of line as the additional link between the contact strip and the brass retaining nut will cause both controllers to electrically short together.

If you have one of these and want to modify the wheels. You can take the original bogies off, store them away and fit modified ones with new wheels and pick ups from the Triang Hornby cl31 or cl37. There are many of those about,and it’s the same bogie mechanism with a different design of side frame.

At 17.46 how is it running with the top middle slide not in correct position, I note at 21.00 the top middle slide is now set correctly plus how is the motor alone/ not in the body running, I thought the motor had to be installed to actually run

Wow that is such an improvement :) Can I send you mine, please?

Yes I do it on woodhead Manchester Piccadilly to Sheffield victory it run on DC 1500 v. Was two types a Coco and the bobo.bobo was this one Coco went to Holland back on 1960 s was bass at guide bridge in Ashton Manchester this was freight some time on passages to Sheffield old station top speed was 80 mph stop running in 1989 when the depo shut down I was the driver on this local

Bill was it Newburgh Model Railways for the parts?

they ran on the manchester/sheffield line trans penine.jpj

the model drew power from th ohl as well

I shave a wooden toothpick Sharpe and use that to clean comutator slots

Any ideas on how i could possibly send you my loco for you to look at for me please?

The class 77 uses the same wheels as the triang class 31

Another superb and instructive video, can I make one very small criticism please? I am deaf and rely on sub-titles to follow the action. Can you ask KZfaq to display sub-titles on all your series of videos? I'm sure I'm not the only deaf old git that subscribe and look forward to seeing the next locomotive resurected from the dead or severely injured siding.

I'm interested in buying a Lima or a mainline diesel from my local model railway shop any suggestions. Cheers .Lewis : )

ultrascale do replacement wheels sets

Of course it wont run you have no overhead wired lol