I read the book clean Architecture. It has a great section near the beginning about programming paradigms where the author shows how you can implement all the OOP behavior in C. Very fascinating

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@30:36 I started learning C from reading the manual for LCC-win32 IDE as a PDF on an Palm PDA while on night shift. It even explained how to do win32 api stuff from scratch.

Wouldn't be a C video without a segfault 10 minutes in

absolutely agree with your phrase "you can do anything in C"

Very nice! Reminds me of an article on Quora on "Object-Oriented Programming in C: A Deep Dive" by Khanno Mikhail: "...there are actually THREE ways to accomplish OOP in C (aptly named): Open style. Pointer style. and GTK style (GObject style). There are also three ways to apply function/method polymorphism in C as well: Struct style. Disjoint style. and Interface style ..."

A very interesting idea and quite elegant implementation! It's rather amazing that hot reloading can work so well in a typed and compiled language like C that doesn't have much features. I wish modern languages put some thought on making this a feature because it is so convenient for creating web servers, gui's and other highly interactive and visual applications.

are the captions the live chat?? that's cool af

It only makes sense to define the Task struct's function members to accept Task itself so it looks similar to `self` in Python and besides you can call other task's functions from a Task's function

Tsoding, you don't actually need a dynamic array for vtable, or even register it at runtime, just store it in global library plain array variable and define it inplace. This way "dynamicness" is achieved through loading the lib itself, you just recompile the lib itself and vtable gets reloaded, then you just resolve it like you already do with function symbols. This way you can add vtable entries, but can't reorder or delete stuff from that just like in your implementation. I can provide an example via PR but unfortunately can't find public repo of panim, please consider making it public so people like me can f around with it)

I've been waiting for this for a loooong time😭

The boilerplate in C for the animal example could have been a bit smaller if you would have stuck to what C++ does a bit closer. In C++ it would inline the dog and cat data into the same allocation as for animal, meaning Animal effectively becomes a "Animal_Methods**" with some extra data to the right of it. Dog and Cat would also need the vtable pointer in the struct definitions, but this could be mitigated via the use of the butterfly technique in the utility methods. Initialization code for the tags could also be simplified if you used the C++ approach.

Nice, see all you need is C and a Tsoding

Это замечательно! С удовольствием посмотрел на всю эту дичь. На удивление это крайне просто работает. Никогда не пытался имплементить что-то такое в своей жизни, максимум все заканчивалось указателями на функции, по причине ненадобности. Но какой же классный видос

For the tag implementation, you can make the tag an enum, as well as make the data a union of pointers to the types that inherit it, this allows the vtable to be off of the heap as you now know the size in compile time, as well as you can use designated initializers to have a more well defined offset of all of the pointers for your vtable.

Looking at old codebases I've seen many cases of OOP in C: - Sun Pixrect is a low level library for drawing on the framebuffer, and for each framebuffer there is a different implementation. At the creation of a Pixrect object, it is dispatched with the function table to manipulate it - Still from Sun, X/NeWS has a graphics library called Shapes, that replaced the CScript (the PostScript graphic layer) + Pixrect combo, and it has plenty of macros to declare classes in C and dispatch all the methods. This package handles shapes, paths and framebuffers - At CMU, a preprocessor called "Class" was made for the Andrew project. It enriched C with Object-Oriented specific syntax (similar but different from both C++ and Objective C). I guess this was used for the Andrew Toolkit and other applications of the suite

Where is the book, Zozin? Where is it? You'd never give it to an ordinary citizen!

Unfathomably cool.

Could you also solve it by getting the arena from the main executable's memory space? Or does that only ensure the pointers aren't unreachable, but they will still be garbage after reloading?

Now your bottleneck is the compiler being slow lol

Nice that turned out really clean.

Is there any source code access so far? I am struggling a bit following all these concepts about virtual tables and wanted to take a look into it directly

Honestly, at this point it's kind of scary how similar my data structures library was to your OO in C code. Also, quite similar to the code I would hand students that asked for homework help in the chat room I frequented. For some reason, they were constantly asking for help with linked lists. So I wrote a joke implementation which perfectly demonstrated the concept and worked without any errors but was a giant stream of FOAD's in various forms and at one point even had a little poem. I really miss Yahoo chat rooms. Those were some of the best times I spent online. Even found a really awesome MUD through various people back then. I really wish I could remember the address or name of it because it was an amazingly detailed MUD that allowed you to dismember your enemies and even cook their bits over a fire. Who knows, maybe I'll write one myself. As to the original subject, I think you should write a proper animations programming language and implement a VM to run it. I already know you won't, but I think you should.

I like this guy irl like this guy ! Keep it up bro

Thank you!

What do we do if the toilet code has a stack overflow?

2 uploads in one day😮😮😮😮

Oh my god, you launched this video right as i am making async oop in C. Tho i am making it more as an general purpose language (i think i will create my lang and transpile to this subset of c i created)

56:06 : I don’t understand why registering task wait wasn’t just added to the task_vtable_rebuild procedure?

Now that you have a way to run tasks in parallel.. Time for multicore support in nob?

Do you have any videos explaining OOP in C and desing pattern from the beginning

Honestly seeing classes and virtual methods implemented in C was really freaking cool

Congrats you invented GObject

This kind of code not only exists, it is being standarized (there is upcoming ble smart toilet profile).

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i tried doing this with specialized types with Odin but for a game framework. couldn't get it working though, probably misunderstood something.

it seems as though you do not use any kind of lsp, is that intentional?

Thank you! For inspiration and laughs! Proposal: maybe animals poop in various places. Abstract the toilet?

59:15 by "no code" do you mean Node_graph_architecture (wikipedia)?

Thank you....

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Man, I can't wait to see c adding classes

I love your content dude it's just so good.

I played around with something similar a number of years ago, it's kinda fun... Not *super* practical, but fun. Though these days, I do still kind of lay out my data and functions in a similar manner, just without the "virtual functions"/function pointers... So if I ever become unlazy, I can just toss everything into classes and be with the hipsters and use C++. :D

Why did i click this video. Obviously i'm not gonna watch a 2 hour video at 12:57pm, also i have to wake up at 7am for school.

C++ is not an object oriented language, you can do oop like things in c++ but when you strip away the abstractions you just get C [which is why it is so fast; I say in regards to objects specifically] A C++ programmer... Thats who wrote the Vtable wiki page...

Heresy!

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The most advanced OOP in C was in IBM System Object Model

Dude, seriously, I would buy your book.

A huge problem with OOP is that virtually all basic tutorials go right away into stuff like inheritance and abstract classes, but in reality you should avoid that as much as possible (use interfaces and composition in 99% of cases). Then there's a ton of stuff such as composition, solid and "OOP design patterns" and *some* part of Clean Code... Lot of it is actually useful and applicable to most languages, OOP or not.

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1:14:33 bruh that caught me off guard

using enum for indexs and naming of methods seems to be easier for me

it's not easy to just use c++?

I just discovered that Chat is in the subtitles. Make of that what you will.

That’s so cool omg

Based Emacs user.

How did you make constructor and destructor in C ??? video is long ...

I left python to be here. I want to know and learn how it all started. Thank you tsoding.

Wait it's all struct...

hell nah💀

zozin should write a book about how to google, name it "art of googling" or something.

no

13:18 ofc we know vtable ;P 26:33 maybe 2d and 4d to make it obv for newbies Thx

Wait so… OOP is good afterall??

1:31:27 out of context zozin when?

Не буду спрашивать почем и откуда «стимуляторы», но программируя на Си всего полгодика чистого времени, понимаю, что с Си и сознание расширять не надо;)

i see arch with dwm

Why do some people dislike OOP ? I'm aware of the problems related to performance, but other than that, I don't know.

I lost it at 1:50:50 XD

what a da fu

i hate that vtable thing. just use generic objects instead of reinventing the wheel for everything

just use Vala bruv

I have full control of what languages I use, what paradigms I use, etc. And OOP is not click-bait; it is a very logical way to program, creating analogies from the real world of objects that have properties and actions or methods. I didn't watch the whole podcast, but if you wanted to write your squares as OOP, The squares would contain their own position on the screen, and expose methods like Move(x,y) Color(color) and whatever else you'd want to do with them.

very cool C stuff and a very good programming exercise as long as you just want to fiddle around and have fun. for any real world need c++ has you covered in a safer way already (and I'm sure we all know this)

lmao your i3status

You should call it "c = c + 1"

Nice object oriented shitposting

Do not try and read the book. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth. There is no book.

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I don't need as much specific programming paradigm's as i need good filenames and a clean order. Edit: specific

OOP in C?? Cool 😮😮😮

Hot reloading AKA Shared Object Oriented Programming, we love SOOP

I love C, however freedom has consequences.

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Bro, can you make chess engine in C? Chess is happening right now 😅

This cactoos thing looks far more like functional programming than oop... Remove all then useless 'new' and you have classic lazy evaluated functions composition. Similar to .net's linq as well.

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