Revising Paul Kagame: Myth and Reality After the Genocide in Rwanda

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Revising Paul Kagame: Myth and Reality After the Genocide in Rwanda

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Open Society Foundations

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@tribalpeacock Жыл бұрын

The US is only good to speak after the fact...where were they during the genocide? NOWHERE!

@uwase9068 2 жыл бұрын

Did these panelist just egnore the old guy's question? Wow

@marymbaka 11 жыл бұрын

where were all these people when the world shut it's doors, covered its ears and eyes towards Rwanda during the genocide

@umutangananadine7901 3 жыл бұрын

Now they become sponteniously awake? Why? Why not before when the needs were there? Sometimes i cannot beleive this kind of speach😂

@jeandamourndereyehe7286 3 жыл бұрын

They planned the genocide in Rwanda : USA, UK, FRANCE, BELGIUM ISRAEL CHINA IN THE SECURITY COUNSEL FOR THE WAR FOR CONGO!!!

@francoisemurekatete4020 Жыл бұрын

Rudasingwa used to think HE WAS IT ALL! He is so furious for he was proven VERY WRONG!

@ginacoleman788 2 жыл бұрын

Does the Open Society Foundation have any concerns about the chaos in Nigeria .... or the DRC...? Probably not. My impression is that these "good governance" organizations are only concerned with African countries the west cannot exploit.

@sherifffolarin701 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant. Well said.

@ginacoleman788 3 жыл бұрын

Where are these people today? What is their opinions?

@Africanmusic100 12 жыл бұрын

French and English can not change people's hearts

@sterdezy1569 3 жыл бұрын

This is just western propaganda, 2021 nothing happened, and the so call Rwandan guy thinks like a foreigner because he only lived in Rwanda for 5 years ... He is not like us. Let's our country alone thank you!

@bayindostudio 12 жыл бұрын

The former spokesperson of ICTR is in denial and seems to be offended that anyone that actually knows that the facts of Rwanda actually has the nerve to speak it in public.

@bayindostudio 12 жыл бұрын

“Everyone proclaims to be a politician, if not a civil right activist” ,…I agree! I see it so often among us Congolese, its nauseating... I know where you come from my friend. Conversely, I’m concerned for the Rwanda people, the grass in the battle between elephants that’s coming, the other elephant being DRCongo. What Rwanda did in DRCongo, will come back to haunt Rwanda maybe not tomorrow, next month, next year, but it’s coming. Maybe our respective POV will make a positive difference.

@sherifffolarin701 Жыл бұрын

And what did DRC not do in Rwanda that now haunts Congo? When talking, let's remove our petty sentiments and do so with an open and enlightened mind. Let's do a thorough research on the Great Lakes conflicts and why states behave the way they do, before reaching conclusions. Congo did a lot of evil to Rwanda in the 1990's and after the genocide. They armed the FDLR (former Hutu extremists and killers in the genocide) and tried in futility to destabilize Rwanda and remove Kagame.

@ATM2010_dd 8 ай бұрын

@@sherifffolarin701van you Show scientific evidence pls. Im not interested in the Version of your genocidaire Kagame

@jeanmulopo5235 Ай бұрын

@@sherifffolarin701 poor propagandist

@sherifffolarin701 Ай бұрын

@@jeanmulopo5235poor commentator.

@kirundo1 12 жыл бұрын

Those who have nerve to speak the truth in public, as you put it, need to first face justice for corruption charges. Rwanda had declared all out war against corruption and we have physical evidence agaist these folks. Others are claiming that Rwanda would assassinate them if they return to Rwanda, but these same people were representing Rwanda in diplomatic missions overseas, and when their time to return home came, in order to replace them with others; they all refused to repatriate

@pitadriti9767 Жыл бұрын

This was 11 years ago. So many doomsayers and self qualified experts with nothing but cynical remarks and shallow theories.

@sevedsplan5932 Жыл бұрын

It's actually funny when you watch it now im not from rwanda and this makes laugh bunch of shittalkers.

@bayindostudio 12 жыл бұрын

No worries my friend, disagreeing doesn’t bother me. If you want to send it or private upload it, please do...I have footage from 1990, 1995, 1994, 1996 and 1998. 1990? When RPA invaded Rwanda from Uganda? Whatever our respective thoughts are on it, history bears out that what goes around comes around. Whatever Kigali puts out, is going to come back to Kigali. I appreciate our cordial dialog here on youtube, hopefully it helps lead peace in our region for both of our countries. Peace my friend.

@user-hk5mr7wz8s 7 ай бұрын

*Monde des affaires en #RDC 🔴 Voici les leaders dans les secteurs clés de l'économie nationale congolaise :* Transport aérien 1. Serve air = Indien 2. CAA = Belge 3. Air kasai = Russie Batiment et Travaux Publics 1: sinohydro = Chine 2: Crec7 = Chine 3. Safricas = belge 4: Dematco= européen Mines 1. Ivanoe = Canada 2. Tenge fugurume= chinois 3. KCC = suisse 4. Barrick Gold = Canada 5. Glencore = Swiss Banque 1. Ecobank = Togo 2. Equity = Kenya 3. Standard bank = Afrique du Sud 4. Access bank = Nigeria 5. FNbank= Nigeria 6. Sofibanque = Liban 7. Solidaire banque = Liban Logistique 1. Bolore = France 2. CGMA = France Agro alimentaire 1. SOKIN =LIBAN 2. ALLIANCE BUSINESS INTERNATIONALE ex congo futur = Liban Grande distribution 1. Kin marché : INDE 2. G&G market : INDE 3 Kin mart : Liban 4. Hyper psaro : grece 5. S&k : INDE 6. Galaxys : INDE 7. Shoprite : sud africain Transport routier camions: 1. Trans Benz : Liban 2. Trans gazelle : Liban 3. NRG : Inde 4. TRC : Européen Boisson gazeuse & alcool 1. Canadian pure : Inde 2. Américan water : libanais 3. Éden : Chine 4. Bralima. : Hollande 5.Bracongo :France Assurances : 1. Activa : Cameroun 2. Rawsur : Inde 3. Sunu assurance : Afrique de l'ouest. 4. Sonas : RDC Meubles: 1. Orca : Liban 2. Kitea : Maroc Communication: 1. Vodacom : Sud africain & britannique 2. Airtel : Indien 3. Orange : France 4. Africel. : Libanais & américain. Évangélisation : 1. ACK : RDC 2. Cité Béthel : RDC 3. FEPACO : RDC 4. Ministère Amen : RDC 5. Armée de l'éternel : RDC 6. Combat spirituel : RDC 7. Buka bikeko : RDC 8. Compassion : RDC 9. Jésus me connais : RDC 10. Mabele ya lisekwa: RDC 11. Résurrection : RDC 12. Nzambe ako sala : RDC 13. HV : RDC 14. NOUVELLE TERRE : RDC

@Bazompora 12 жыл бұрын

Magic is but show and extorsion. With all due respect: ours must refuse the hand of yours, Kagame, the RPF or anyone else that hands Africans into slavery to the economic coloniser.

@chochomasenya1410 2 жыл бұрын

No other country, not even the United States, is being held to the standards and the expectations that are being imposed on Rwanda in many crucial domains -Tim Gallimore, the sponsor of this unfortunate foundation. So, please leave us alone.

@Romeo-fm2wj 2 жыл бұрын

Could US fix it’s racist government to it’s own citizens who are actually the one who used their muscles to build country ? , and Now accusions is that something in Rwanda still have part of racial……

@ABDULRAHMAN-tm6dx 2 жыл бұрын

If you are a Jew go talk about Israel and Palestine issues

@ABDULRAHMAN-tm6dx 2 жыл бұрын

Ethnic line for power is inevitable since power at a time will definitely be with an ethnic group

@kirundo1 12 жыл бұрын

We Rwandans, I mean many who grew up overseas, have tried countless times to get or have positive Congolese interlocutors who also grew up overseas, to have an open constructive dialogue about our region, but every effort ends in vain. Mark my words, my friend, many international criminal as imbedded in UN. Rwanda doesn’t benefit from troubled Congo, absolutely not.

@ObjectTurmoil 2 жыл бұрын

Well, the stolen Congolese gold is building your country

@sherifffolarin701 Жыл бұрын

They won't agree with you because they are blinded by petty national and ethnic sentiments. DRC is a failed state and those who created the failed state and benefit from it are the ones blaming Rwanda. The west.

@ATM2010_dd 8 ай бұрын

You wonder why any congolese would want to listen to the BS you just said?

@jojohnofficiel 5 ай бұрын

What is this man talking about? Where does the cobalt sold by Rwanda coming from ? What’s backing the actual Rwandan gdp ?

@ABDULRAHMAN-tm6dx 2 жыл бұрын

😂😂Why are you worried about Rwanda when Rwandans are happy

@Africanmusic100 12 жыл бұрын

President Habyarimana was a peaceful man, and the best of Africa.

@sterdezy1569 3 жыл бұрын

bullshit!

@r.a.nstickz6327 Жыл бұрын

Keep telling yourself that 🙄

@francoisemurekatete4020 Жыл бұрын

Very shortsighted statement! Ha ha ha! Very nostalgic a burried era!!!

@COD-MIIR. 2 жыл бұрын

13:45 Indeed.

@Romeo-fm2wj 2 жыл бұрын

1:12:19 an a racist guy lol he was about to burst hhhh cool down Rwandan people are now at least enjoying something different

@bayindostudio 12 жыл бұрын

I like your flow, I’d add that when some didn’t want to return to Rwanda they were either killed abroad or went into hiding when a government, say, Britain, told them a hit team was coming from Rwanda. Since the UK has been Kigali’s staunchest ally that says lot…Nothing lasts forever…

@ABDULRAHMAN-tm6dx 2 жыл бұрын

Who are you and what is your nationality?

@tysonafrika5268 Жыл бұрын

1:27:40

@jojohnofficiel 5 ай бұрын

This man said the truth

@ABDULRAHMAN-tm6dx 2 жыл бұрын

What is democracy?"Government of the people, by the people and for the people" as by Abraham Lincoln, Can Africans have the liberty to do what makes them the"people " happy 🤷.

@kirundo1 12 жыл бұрын

But big powers like France, has maintained and supplied Rwandan former rebels, through UN up to this day, and all Congolese believe that Rwanda is a handicap to their development and stability. I tell you right here right now, Rwanda goes into Congo not so often, but it does, it’s because of national security, and not for economical reasons. Ever wondered why the UN can’t get rid of those rebels or allow Rwanda to end them? It’s to keep what Western intelligence call: Check and Balance.

@Anonymous-rm9lv 7 жыл бұрын

thanks TIM GALLIMORE for speaking the truth about RWANDA unlike those panelists who are just a bunch of hypocritical haters, lairs .

@Josee2030 12 жыл бұрын

This rwandese guy knows how to manipulate people. If it doen't work for him one side, he goes to the other one. Keep playing with fire..

@lornabrooks2907 2 жыл бұрын

That’s why I think Caribbean countries should be cautious and smart as to what they committed to. Although to his credit there is great improvement. But I think there is an agenda to it.

@kirundo1 12 жыл бұрын

The problem has been always the lack of direct one on one dialogue. Let’s sit down all of us, Burundi, Rwanda and Congo then sort out our problems. You point fingers and I do the same, we end up no where. All this Congolese minerals is pure speculation. The world is watching, tell us where and when we dug the so-called Coltan, then tell us specifically who’s buying it, in what country? Example: in Rwanda we sell coffee to Starbucks, USA. Tell me who’s buying the coltan we stole from Congo?

@ABDULRAHMAN-tm6dx 2 жыл бұрын

What is the disadvantage of dictatorship if it is delivering to the people

@kirundo1 10 жыл бұрын

Kagame is needed not only in Rwanda, but in the whole of Africa. Look at South Africa and tell me when the anarchy will end? Look at Congo and every where else, then tell me how all these countries will ever become stable !

@kingOFtheFISHpeople 10 жыл бұрын

you do know that Kagame and the RPF are partly responsible for the "anarchy" in DRC? one round of regieme change, another two rounds of insurgencies, ethinc clensing and looting of natural resources? much of africa is actually alright. the countries with serious stability issues are small in number.

@sterdezy1569 3 жыл бұрын

@@kingOFtheFISHpeople western propaganda!

@kingOFtheFISHpeople 3 жыл бұрын

@@sterdezy1569 ok

@xena6894 Жыл бұрын

@@kingOFtheFISHpeople why that DRC country allows anarchy? Maybe look up why it's still failed state. 8 years on from your uninformed comment

@kingOFtheFISHpeople Жыл бұрын

@@xena6894 ok

@Africanmusic100 12 жыл бұрын

Transformational? Not true. It is not easy to transform Rwanda. Hatred cannot produce good fruits.

@sterdezy1569 3 жыл бұрын

look at Rwanda today 2021 Rwanda is the best African country!

@laloveisbad88 5 ай бұрын

Kagame said he would shoot Us soldiers if they came, Bush the first one refused to send the troops after our troops were shot on in Somalia when trying to help. Get the facts straight in the comments.

@chochomasenya1410 2 жыл бұрын

I went to Europe and America once and I couldn't find anything to eat that resembles anything I like to eat back home in Africa. Is that racist or any form of harassment?

@kirundo1 12 жыл бұрын

“ Nothing lasts forever “,…and no body knows about it than us, the modern Rwanda. Corruption, political anarchy, poverty and many more vices… cannot last forever. Opposition should be fighting to get ahead in science, self-reliance, poverty and diseases free society; unfortunately, every one claims to be a politician, if not a civil right activist. Rwanda will never be again, at the mercy of short-sighted affirmative action leaders.

@hakizayezufuku6545 Жыл бұрын

I liked the facts from the man at left side .

@hitayezujeanpierre3220 2 жыл бұрын

Were we having such a vision of Theogene Rwanda would be reconciling and a good country

@ISHIMWEEtienne Жыл бұрын

Great work

@elliottwalker8464 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for posting this, it was very interesting!

@chochomasenya1410 2 жыл бұрын

Why is it important to you to know who is who in Rwanda, let alone Africa? I don't know which ethnicity you are in Europe or America and I'm fine with that. Why do you have to know who is Tutsi, Hutu, Twa, Zulu, Shona, Luo, Bemba, Mungo as so on for you to come to any part of Africa? How will that benefit you? Why is it important that I should define myself the way you want me to? If you are not happy with me and Kagame defining myself as we deem fit, then don't come to Africa at all. Stay home and love your kids and neighbors and pray to your god in peace and be happy.

@mfuranzimafred8904 2 жыл бұрын

Kagame is a great leader of this century

@lelkaya7912 Жыл бұрын

That's according to his handlers. The likes of B. Clinton, T. Blair, R. Warren, etc

@kirundo1 12 жыл бұрын

You just abandoned the possibility of ( Barundi, Banyarwanda and Bacongo ) being able to solve their own problems! I can understand if you accuse the previous generation for failures. But I’m certain that Great Lakes region's people, are capable of solving their problems. When it comes to Kagame, he’s magical because he and his entourage talk and do what we need: clean water, national security, food security, healthcare, economic development. We do care-LESS about Western democracy

@kirundo1 12 жыл бұрын

Bazompora, let’s start by embracing each other, I mean you marry in my family, and I marry in yours, then from that union or merge, I think we can have healthier debate. We, in Rwandan, don’t have 85% , less or more. We have 100% Rwanda, but I really respect your opinion of how you see Rwanda. Just remember that Rwanda is magical in many senses. Welcome my friend. Rwanda means Infinity or endless, and you have a place there regardless of your background, denomination or orientation of any kind

@lelkaya7912 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Theogene for stating the truth. People have been fed Kagamists propaganda on Rwanda and Kagame. Rwanda is like a dirty chick with a lot of make up.

@kagabopierre7285 2 жыл бұрын

You are wrong. Kingdom was not for tutsi. It was for one family as it is the case in UK, Netherland, etc. This artificial ethnicity has been exagerated by colonialists. Ethinies are scientificaly caracterised by cultural barriers like languages, region, etc. In Rwanda we are all banyarwanda. This history is complicated. Do not base your talk on the testimony of this arrogant former ambassador who seems not to know his history. I has been in the USA in 1999 when he was there as ambassador. I know who is. Ten years after this discussion, what is the situation while Rudasingwa said the moment were like just before 1994. HRW try to change the view of Rwanda. If this way helps you to collect money, it will not for a long time. Try to look for other things which can soustainable for the Human beeing History. Stop your manipulation. Neo colonialists tried and they have failled on that.

@kubwimanasteven3395 4 жыл бұрын

kagame his powerful intergent

@alcoholdisque6400 2 жыл бұрын

First and foremost, trouble comes when we have to discuss our own issues with foreigners in their languages while between us we can't connect. This is clear evidence that these foreigners have remained to decide our fate yet their clear mission is new world order in disguise of human rights, democracy etc. Well, these guys have sent their armies everywhere across the globe to stabilize peace, where does peace prevail as a result of their help?

@kirundo1 12 жыл бұрын

Easy said than proven. Your claim have no merit unti you prove it beyond reasonable doubts. Here's an example: Name a specific location where we Rwandans dig those minerals from, then name a specific buyer and country that purchases those stolen minerals! Just like we harvest Thea in Maraba, Rwanda then sell it to Starbucks in USA, through International trade commission. So, let me know about the so-called Congolese minerals, you guys sing about. I'm listening

@rikoruavihengari4661 Жыл бұрын

Kagame is bad

@IsaroBururu 2 жыл бұрын

Howard French a very prominent panelist✌🏿

@ABDULRAHMAN-tm6dx 2 жыл бұрын

Yes it ended badly by a cause outside Africa.Caused by does saying this questions

@user-jl5tl4vi3u 7 ай бұрын

Good for nothing

@Africanmusic100 12 жыл бұрын

Habyarimana was born from a marriage of a tutsi to a hutu,

@francoisemurekatete4020 Жыл бұрын

In your dreams!!! Archifaux!

@kirundo1 11 жыл бұрын

Kagame is a God sent man, who ended error and horrors

@Efro375 3 жыл бұрын

Thats not true and just an agenda that has been perpetrated by Tutsis and their western allies. The genocide is actually an event were the victim is the perpetrator and vice versa. Kagame is an american trained war criminal who has misslead and forced a false narrative about the genocide for over 20 years now.

@kirundo1 12 жыл бұрын

Westerner countries always work with both sides, it called: Check and Balance in politics. Modern Rwanda however, succeed to maintain stability, only because we have double agents. Only African country to have double agents, because we grew up overseas and know well how Western intelligence works. We work with US, UK, France….., we who is who and who’s doing what. Congo is being destabilized by Western powers, not Rwanda.

@Africanmusic100 12 жыл бұрын

There was no genocide in Rwanda. The tusti population has not declined

@sterdezy1569 3 жыл бұрын

negationist!

@patricesekanyambo284 2 жыл бұрын

Asma T. You need to control your corrupted tongue.

@mujunironald220 2 жыл бұрын

You're outta here showing how dumb and ignorant you're but hopefully u will stay being a social media cunt who will never say this on the Rwandan soil where the atrocity happened.

@r.a.nstickz6327 Жыл бұрын

Genocide denial at its finest

@francoisemurekatete4020 Жыл бұрын

Your words are more genocidal exactly as those who put into gear and action their agenda of wiping out a WHOLE ETHNIC GROUP! What kind of human are you? After over a million tutsi killed, you say their number did not decrease? You WISHED, right? Your prayer was not exhorted!!! God is good all the time! That is why some survived YOUR WISH!

@kasikwagoma7778 5 жыл бұрын

It seems hutus are hell bent on wiping out the Tutsi minority.so in my opinion the international community should divide the country in 2 to separate the two.that would be the only permanent solution.

@sterdezy1569 3 жыл бұрын

Hell no !

@Efro375 3 жыл бұрын

@Bazompora 12 жыл бұрын

You better be reading: w w w (dot)un(dot)org/News/dh/latest/drcongo(dot) h t m --- I also have long time abandoned nationalist thinking: multinational issues cannot be understood within the confines of Barundi, Banyarwanda, Congolais or Waganda identities; these only blur the real outlines. You idolise Kagame, because you pride yourself that all that is tutsi "ya-" ("from") Rwanda like you must be good; your amalgamation of you and Kagame into "we" highlights your emotionally corrupted outlook.