Forget Pentatonics!

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Just when you think all the masters are burning through solos with pentatonic scale language Adam makes an argument for the hexatonic scale. This slightly altered scale makes all the difference when trying to emulate the great improvisors of this music.
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@hugosesolis5720 Ай бұрын

I've spent 163 hours watching open studio's videos about pentatonics, and now you ask me to forget it??! YOU MONSTERS ;-)

@Zxx459 23 күн бұрын

Charlie p. Said it" Master it.then forget it" You do the math😊

@brian106699 Ай бұрын

This stuff is like standing on a glass box looking in. I see it. I hear it. BUT I CAN’T TOUCH IT!! I’m still here though. E’ry day as we say in St. Louis.

@granddaddy_funk Ай бұрын

I've been trying this stuff for like 2 years now(I'm a classical pianist with like 15 years of experience) . You gotta keep going. I'm only now starting to get a little better at jazz improv.

@peterkrinke3855 Ай бұрын

Lol I like that metaphor

@dougwintersbks Ай бұрын

EXACTLY. It’s like watching a magician and think “Oh, that’s how he does it.” Cool! But…c’mon. But I’ll keep sheddin’ if y’all will!!!!!!!!

@geocosmicvalentine Ай бұрын

Just touch the piano, splash around, be a gold fish. Even play it badly on purpose and you’ll be shocked at what it leads to. 🙂👍🏽

@paulrhodesquinn Ай бұрын

You’ll get there! A little bit every day 😊

@SuperMANgino Ай бұрын

The virtual piano makes these episodes so much better to learn from. I hope you all bring it back!!!

@RyJohnsonMusic Ай бұрын

These etudes are some of Adam’s best pedagogical work! I’m going to be shedding these for weeks :) even Peter seemed really impressed

@pianopeter Ай бұрын

indeed

@RyJohnsonMusic Ай бұрын

@@pianopeter maybe a video about how Coltrane uses pentatonics would be a cool follow up- a more unique approach to “taking it out” with pentatonics. There’s a good Ramon Ricker book called “Pentatonics Scales for Jazz Improvisation” that has a chart of superimposing pentatonics and their relative “outness.” Great work as always :)

@Zxx459 23 күн бұрын

You are on the wrong path....

@RyJohnsonMusic 23 күн бұрын

@@Zxx459 what?

@arnogoossens9892 Ай бұрын

This is top notch music-educational content, guys... It has everything. Clear establishment of concept, clear explanation, very clear examples, virtual piano, scores, examples of further application, everything... It's very accessible stuff.

@buttunz Ай бұрын

Peter that shirt fly af.

@arnogoossens9892 Ай бұрын

Haha, went back to the video to check the shirt and now I'm thinking "which one is Peter"? xD They both have cool shirts.

@opndmind Ай бұрын

Thank you for wonderful inspiration! I've cancelled the rest of my schedule today to work on this. Pure joy!

@jarediledundee Ай бұрын

Did I just watch the best jazz lesson on the internet? I think it could be!! I too associated THAT sound with the pentatonic scale. I stand corrected though, thanks to this lesson. Off to the practice room I go! Thanks gents, I really appreciate all you do for the fans of this music

@zweiwelten3384 Ай бұрын

I have always loved this McCoy Tyner sound. And now I thank I have got the hang of how to get there! Thank you so much, Adam, for this lesson!

@musiccreation1198 Ай бұрын

Holy moly Adam & Peter... phenomenal content...dare I say, best ever?

@amileoj9043 Ай бұрын

This is one of those extra special Open Studio episodes that seems to turn a key and unlock a long standing mystery. Agree with others: great pedagogy from Adam and having Peter as our 'student proxy' really helped bring the sesh alive. First rate work guys!

@alejandro913ify Ай бұрын

I myself play guitar and this was immensely helpful for my playing! Thank you so much. This amazing. And the piano on the screen is a must have😮

@KMGWorryFree Ай бұрын

Fantastic information being shared here! I am a guitar player and absolutely love superimposing pentatonics in my solos. Combining these triad pairs is a total ear opener! Great stuff guys! We love this channel

@raphaelbetemps7106 21 күн бұрын

I practiced jazz 30 years ago and stoped playing for many reasons. I havent the skills and the ear to understand everything but you approch opened up a way to grab a new sound and getting out of my pentatonics beguiner habits. Thanks a lot for sharing this knowledge (Raphael guitar player from france)

@strat1227 Ай бұрын

Love this so much. It's such a great feeling to hear my playing level up in real time after working with one of these videos. Like I just unlocked a new ability and now it comes natural. Thanks a ton

@LostSoulAscension Ай бұрын

I freakin love you guys man. ❤ So fun to watch and listen to the Jazz between y'all.

@JP-hb4mv 24 күн бұрын

could not get a better format than this, great work

@klodinsky3132 Ай бұрын

Best series❤

@randyhetlage9202 Ай бұрын

thanks, I was needing this.❤

@turing999 Ай бұрын

This is an absolutely brilliant way to do a deep dive into solos. Love the dialogue. This will deepen the experience when listening next time.

@gabrielbotsford791 10 күн бұрын

A lot of crazy things happen when you remove the Major 6th from your target/sound/approach/what have you.... Great content as always gents!!!!

@jorgeguimaraes8820 Ай бұрын

18:00 that chromatic major minor lick is a signature khachaturian move

@alchemysticgoldmind4164 Ай бұрын

I am guitarist and I look at and steal from you guys regularly .This Hextonic thing made me go down the rabbit hole...Whew..man all I can say is thank you...cause it changed my way of playing. This is one of the secret sauces.Benson and Satriani use this you can here it in their playing..Playing Pentatonic +the 7 and dumping the four..makes lines come alive.. melodic..Thanks guys

@clayousmore2543 Ай бұрын

I am here to do the same thing bruh😂😂

@Milkyfish7 Ай бұрын

Love listening to you guys talk and play! Many thanks ❤

@jacklynam5653 Ай бұрын

Return of the good thumbnails!

@alangonzalez4552 Ай бұрын

You're great, guys! Thanks so much for every video

@nilkilnilkil Ай бұрын

Great lesson! I love that kind of piano playing, like McCoy tyner and chick Corea, as you demonstrated, yippee !!!

@GizzyDillespee Ай бұрын

Whoa: "peace... and piano", and a change-up on the outro! All I got's the Reface (i.e. minikeys) here, so I'm not practicing any muscle memory anything today. But that 2nd etude sounds like something I'd want to play anyway, etude or not.

@georgehiggins1320 Ай бұрын

Nobody talks about this enough. There's so much instruction on the internet for bebop language (which I LOVE btw). But pentatonic language to me seems like it's always been associated with an air of ineffable mystery. Thank you all for talking about it and breaking it down!

@chrisholland6080 Ай бұрын

Even though I'm greatly reducing the Information Treadmill, I've been over to the piano to run through these. They lay real nice, very applicable to my solo and trio work. Thanks, gentlemen!

@lukeserrano62 Ай бұрын

Superb lesson; many thanks.

@rosaliedeneubourg3225 Ай бұрын

Hexatonic Is like mixolydian without the 6. Nice❤

@deandredavenportspeaks6611 Ай бұрын

I love these guys

@dskinner6263 Ай бұрын

Great upload. Thanks 👍

@MinhPham-ly7yp Ай бұрын

Hi. Great lesson. Can someone illuminate why McCoy Tyner and others were obsessed with pentatonics in this era? And playing them against quartal harmonies? Thanks.

@machinate Ай бұрын

I do algorithmic music (computer generated stuff), and moving from pentatonics to hexaphonics has really lifted my recen work! Still working on "taking it out" without sounding like "PROGRAM ERROR", heh.

@Gnurklesquimp2 25 күн бұрын

Triads are awesome. Something fun to try is pair 2 triads that dont fit in one of the modes together and reflect the pairing in the voicing and/or the way the chord is broken up. Like a particular bit of modal interchange? Well, what if they were both derived from the same scale after all? Major 1 + minor 4 is a classic example that works well. Lets say you do some classic interchange stuff with that, then BAM, the combined scale.

@francoissalace5907 19 күн бұрын

merci!

@tradingwithwill7214 Ай бұрын

This is great thanks

@MaxGaming65 Ай бұрын

You should do a video on the genius of petrucciani, i feel like he’s not talked about enough and he’s amazing!

@taliassa383 Ай бұрын

Wow, fantastic lesson. Transcriptions only for members ?

@Zxx459 23 күн бұрын

Guys dont be fool by these GUYS ...FOLLOW YOU OWN PATH.

@kzeich 22 күн бұрын

Yes. It's easy to lose your identity as a musician

@paulosinetti Ай бұрын

Muito bom professor! Feedback: o som do piano ficou muito melhor aqui na transmissão (parece um timbre diferente com um leve 👏👏

@pianoman_JP Ай бұрын

Great stuff guys, thanks & GALA!!

@noelbrown6058 26 күн бұрын

Thanks! Great stuff! BTW…where can I get a “LAPTOP Prop” like those?

@millerboymusic5954 Ай бұрын

🔥🔥🔥🔥

@davidlewis6762 Ай бұрын

Wow, love that shirt Peter - can you drop a link to where we can find it??

@pianopeter Ай бұрын

Father's Day gift from my fam - they have way better taste than me

@demsi2004 Ай бұрын

Please, could you analyze left hand of Wynton Kelly in the future?

@turtlespiritflutes7570 27 күн бұрын

The Wonton Scale

@Threlgar Ай бұрын

Sorry to be A Grump:: I clicked the ling for the pdf but it never has arrived, even thru multiple requests!! But this vid kicks butt to explain cCoy's sound!!!

@OpenStudioJazz Ай бұрын

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@medislam6961 Ай бұрын

What happened to the other channel

@pianopeter Ай бұрын

stay tuned...

@lrsmth06 Ай бұрын

Also make sure your piano "stays tuned"

@medislam6961 Ай бұрын

@@lrsmth06 midi keyboard gang here

@gillan5 Ай бұрын

Allman Brothers used it.

@richardc1129 28 күн бұрын

so a mixture of mixolydian and pentatonic? there's that flat 7th.

@ili626 Ай бұрын

Wait a minute.. Some of us are learning pentatonics from your previous lessons. But now you’re telling us to forget all that? You now say it’s all about triad pairs? Well, I’ve decided it’s all about 31-TET ok.. so there

@poonnawat9178 Ай бұрын

Is there a similar thing for dominant minor chords?

@xXAjaxXx Ай бұрын

What do you mean by "pentatonics"? I don't recall ever hearing that word before....

@markbra Ай бұрын

Gen x, good lord 😥

@genghismccann7659 Ай бұрын

Is there an equivalent for the minor pentatonic? fm and eb?

@MrFedemoral Ай бұрын

Adam!, is this transcription available somewhere in OS through soundslice ?

@dagadbm Ай бұрын

i wonder if you could explain this with the diminished family of barry harris.

@dagadbm Ай бұрын

yes you can. So F7 originates from C dim7. You know what else originates from C diminished 7? Eb major 6 and F6 (notice the E for the hexascale). man you can apply barry harris to EVERYTHING. this is INCREDIBLE.

@GizzyDillespee Ай бұрын

Triad pairs but major-major instead of major-diminished, is all I got so far... but now McCoy is playing so much more, too😂

@GizzyDillespee Ай бұрын

Now that I'm close to the end... this hexatonic scale sounds more like lydian dominant than diminished 6th, to me. But it's more natural for me to think about it as triad pairs, just as they framed it, really.

@GizzyDillespee Ай бұрын

I mean, it's kinda the major pentatonic scale with the lydian note added. Many ways around it, I guess. Paraphrasing Adam, it's all the chromatic scale, and we're highlighting different flavors within it, with each phrase.

@MinhPham-ly7yp Ай бұрын

@@dagadbmI get C dim = F7 and F6. But don’t you need C# dim to get Eb6?

@kwgm8578 Ай бұрын

Sorry guys, but I can't read that -- the transcription is way too small. But I hear the chord shifts and understand what he's doing. This is quartal.

@skyhr Ай бұрын

I want to see you guys get drunk and have an improv 1 hour jazz session Make it happen!!! :))

@GizzyDillespee Ай бұрын

That's only for the Open Studio Pro Premium Subgum Deluxe "You Buy, We Fly" sessions

@GizzyDillespee Ай бұрын

In case anyone takes my intention wrongly... I was implying that it would be way too entertaining for us to deserve that as a free video🤣

@DouglasMades-ck8yi Ай бұрын

A short string, for me, can be musical, but a sustained long solo of non singable strings of notes just doesn’t do it for me. Ear of the beholder.

@tomsiegel9759 Ай бұрын

Same

@zekielrodriguez5229 Ай бұрын

Fair. But just remember to stay inspired and working at it, and I also think it’s a good idea to learn new things and challenge yourself for its own sake. I don’t necessarily think the best version of you as a musician is the one that prioritizes trends and doing the most impressive and esoteric thing, but the one that is inspired and works at their own vision.