It still is from what I can see. I recently tested a bunch of big name distros because I've been on Debian-xfce for half of a decade and curious about the competition, Suse leap-KDE 15.4 is a very good experience out of the box. (Using a desktop with two screens, one landscape and turned portrait)

Yeah, it’s definitely still the best KDE distro! ❤

Been using Tumbleweed KDE for little more than a week and it has been running smooth so far.

But often politics just wriggles itself into projects, due to certain conduct that may arise in the community and contributors. To circumvent actual politics here, I give the "Actually GNU/Linux" guy as example who will sooner or later come and leave their issue or pr, or block other prs and then you have to deal with them. And regardless of the general decision it can be handled poorly. Just generally I'm not up to date with SUSE

This is unfortunately typical stance of these... people.

Wait? So the political community at large doesn't support segregation and such these days? That's CERTAINLY news.

great distro, been using it on so many machines. I like the monitoring tools especially. SLES/openSUSE could see an upsurge, due to IBM/RHEL shooting themselves in the foot. Fact is... Nobody trusts Oracle, and even they seem like the good guys now. And SLES has quite a large install base. It'll chug right along, and as Bryan pointed out, they have a brilliant ecosystem full of great stuff.

I know the whole openSUSE team hate me, but I will continue to use it to spite them. It works for me.

do not waste your time like that.

@@freedomgoddess What do you choose to replace Tumbleweed?

From what I've been able to gather it was said on the factory mailing list in a long thread about a request to remove the rainbow logo on reddit. Nothing specific about conservatives from what I could see, just about a couple specific users in the thread. The comment made was totally out of line of course, but the whole thing's been blown out of proportion IMO. The original comment has been edited but it's quoted further down in the thread. I am guessing the person that posted it has been reprimanded behind the scenes... he clearly was in breach of the CoC as well lol. I hope they issue an official statement about it. While I am on the left I don't think board members or moderators should be exempt from the CoC! Rules are rules.

So uhhh... how do you feel about it ties to Red Hat? 😅

Debian. Strike Ubuntu.

The repo servers are overloaded and no money to expand?

There's plenty of sane center-left and just plain left people. There's also a lot of right-leaning people who act in a hateful way. It's just that the sane, cooperative people aren't as loud as the controversial & hypocritical ones. Everyone thinks "the others" have radical views and questionable methods, but really most people can agree on many things on a per-issue basis. Conflict usually arises over aesthetics (e.g. someone tries to be inclusive and comes off as pushing an agenda) and directly personal disagreements (e.g. someone says something which offends someone else, then it gets heated and one of them invokes some moral or political principle to justify their feelings). I think these arguments are a natural result of working with people from different backgrounds. Communities should strive to agree on some basic values (e.g. transparency, non-hyperbolic inclusivity, community-centric decision making) and try to de-escalate conflicts which will inevitably arise. As a leftist, I actually think Bryan's ideas about more community controlled governance are a step in the right direction.

They never said anything about conservatives. Just homophobes.

He IS the source

@@WildVoltorb no, the whole rotten flesh story isn't something he's the source of is he?

@@Qyngali Nope, that thread is still archived for your perusing pleasure

@@kpcraftster6580 it was sarcasm.

The statement in question here never actually mentions conservatives! Just homophobes! Hope that helps clear things up 😊

wait until you meet all the weebs and furries and theydies/gentlethems that use Arch. You'll love it there

Solus/Arch/Debian, I think the actions of the openSUSE project (and no pushback from SUSE at all) plus Red Hat's actions makes me think its time to abandon RPM distros once and for all

go woke go broke is a fallacy.

@@happygofishing it was only a fallacy when there was venture capital to prop woke up. Since SVB fell, looks like that free money has dried up.

Lyan Brunduke

@@starlightatdusk4896 true!

LOL. His whole schtick is hyperbole!

"I voted for war criminals whose party is the antithesis of democracy and everyone is calling me far-right." A mystery.

Well, to be fair, the Obama / Hillary voters do seem to have an inclination for supporting countries like Palestine, and regimes like Hamas, who actually are INCREDIBLY far Right and Conservative. Infact, the average Palestinian female make Rush Limbaugh sound like a frilly ass California Lefty.

Plus a lot of Democrats actually support Dixiecrat political ideology, particularly segregation.

And nothing screams "Give us segregation" like "Let's propose a two-State form of government"

But SUSE isn't based in the USA, and in the USA, "Left" political ideology and "Right" political ideology are MASSIVELY different than they are in the rest of the planet. USA always has to be "different" in this way. So, when SUSE is talking about far Right, they mean people who will cut a woman's breasts off their body for being lesbian, for example. USA Right wingers couldn't even handle people wearing face masks so I doubt they were talking about them specifically, because no one on Earth could even remotely take those types seriously as a threat to anything other than their own household

You can't actually BE politically "indepedent" with "Conservative values". That just means you're too broke to afford golf trips. You're one of those tryhards Trump was talking about at the Libertarian rally.

Lmao. Self-reporting at its finest.

Yeah but it makes sense when you realize that some people base their ENTIRE personality and religion and life and policy and moral compass directly on not liking black, brown, asian, jew, whatever people and not liking gays. I could see how that would alienate a lot of people these days, a lot of people these days fit DIRECTLY into the demographic that IS mentioned.

Nobody wants to hire Kanye West because he decided that selling Pepsi wasn't making him as much friends and money as hanging out with Nick Fuentes. People don't want to hire Conservatives because Conservatives don't work. They blame everyone else in the world for their nonexistent middle class issues. If anyone would like supporting evidence that Conservatism doesn't work, literally every single country that American Conservatives have labelled as being 'third world dumps' are actually all Conservative Constitutional Republics who are demonstrably failing from the direct symptoms of their own Conservative policy. This includes Mexico, Honduras, Venezuela, Liberia, etcetera. People don't want to hire people who can't manage basic infrastructure and only a moron with narcissistic personality disorders could blame them.

People don't want Conservatives around because they do not understand basic economical concepts such as brand safety. People don't want to hire Conservatives because while they are busy whining about being "othered", they base their entire lives around "othering" everyone around them. They're whiners who can't stomach their own medicine and can't cope when they lose elections. Plus, no one on the planet ever accused Jerry Falwell or Jim Bakker of having great business acumen as it's not exactly difficult to separate complete morons from their money, which is exactly what they did.

@@neilpatrickhairless You’re right, its just important to call it like it is. Nobody said “conservatives aren’t welcome with openSUSE” and *absolutely* nobody said anything to dismiss “half the population”. If people want to base their personalities around hate, they should at least have the dignity to admit to it instead of smoke-screening outrage about other things that weren’t even brought up.

And being raycis is good

Of what?

Why is he racist

​@@J0derVIVIVI Ohhhh so the whole idea behind this video is let's return SUSE to it's former National Socialist glory? Why not start Proud Linux or VARGBSD or openWAGNER instead?

@@J0derVIVIVI Oh, I forgot, White Conservatives want everything done FOR them, for free. Welp. We'll message you on Don Black's messageboard when Fat Seth from American History X finally gets his Computer and Religious Science degrees