Operation Cinder Is Initiated By Palpatine As Referenced In The Mandalorian (Star Wars )

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Operation Cinder Is Initiated By Palpatine As Referenced In The Mandalorian (Star Wars)
Operation: Cinder was the code name for the orbital bombardment campaign devised by Galactic Emperor Darth Sidious, who sought to punish the Galactic Empire for failing to prevent his death. Following the Emperor's demise during the Galactic Civil War in the Battle of Endor in 4 ABY, his posthumous instructions were relayed to loyal Imperial officers by sentinel messenger droids. They targeted various planets across the galaxy, including Burnin Konn, Candovant, Abednedo, Commenor, and Nacronis, as well as Vardos, a world known for its loyalty to the Empire, and the Emperor's homeworld of Naboo. Although Naboo was saved during the Battle of Theed, Vardos was devastated by satellites that ravaged its ecological balance. Operation: Cinder was the first part in the Emperor's Contingency; the Empire was to be rebuilt in the Unknown Regions while Sidious was secretly revived on Exegol.
The plan was undermined by Grand Admiral Rae Sloane, who killed the Emperor's protégé, Fleet Admiral Gallius Rax during the Battle of Jakku in 5 ABY. The widespread destruction caused by Operation: Cinder also resulted in Iden Versio and Del Meeko-Imperial Special Forces commandos of Inferno Squad-defecting to the New Republic Defense Force. Despite these setbacks, the Contingency succeeded in ensuring the Empire's revival as the First Order, a military junta determined to recapture the Imperial legacy by ending the New Republic Era.
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@shadowwolf7177 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for showing this bro. This can help show those who didn’t understand Operation Cinder

@jonbong8547 3 жыл бұрын

definitely do more stuff like this, this is dope

@soundsgoodbro1296 3 жыл бұрын

It will also help those learn on Operation Cinder

@wileyjp1 3 жыл бұрын

I love StarWars. Thank you

@bluepotato7380 3 жыл бұрын

I didn't know what the was talking about until this video! :D

@Krystalmyth 3 жыл бұрын

It was terribly written so yeah that was going to happen.

@TheTruthIsGonnaHurt 3 жыл бұрын

Operation Cinder aka "The Emperor's Rage Quit" If I am no longer alive to play with the toys, then you are to break all the toys.

@AndreLuis-gw5ox 3 жыл бұрын

Sadly, its quite silly writing. In a real world scenario, it would be more probable that powerfull admirals and governors would split the Empire among themselves and fight a civil war to be the next emperor. I doubt any commander would just incinerate a planet when he just discovered that he is off the leash and can make himself king of his own little turf

@TheTruthIsGonnaHurt 3 жыл бұрын

@@AndreLuis-gw5ox I agree. However, if you recall The Emperor didn't tell everyone. He told key people he knew would go along with the plan. As we see, plenty didn't go along with the idea and outright refused. Even the person' that Palpatine trusted, own daughter was not onboard with the idea, hence why the Messenger Droid didn't trust her ass. The most sadistic were totally onboard they knew this was never about Peace and Order, this was about Dominance. If the Empire was ever to regain control it would have to be a total blood bath. Starting with Imperial Worlds was a bad idea though.. should of started by blowing up rebel worlds..

@RyunosukeHachi 3 жыл бұрын

@@AndreLuis-gw5ox That was basically what happened in the old EU; once the emperor died, many of the Admirals started carving up parts of the Empire for themselves and declaring themselves Warlords, with the most successful ones being Zsinj, Harrsk, and Teradoc. But before them, there was Grand Admiral Thrawn, the Heir to the Empire.

@chrissonofpear1384 3 жыл бұрын

@@RyunosukeHachi Yes, and looks like the Mandalorian may bring that prospect back, after prior lore implied few of those factions were a sizable threat in anyway. It was always a fairly decent vein of storytelling material, that era of the galaxy.

@richardvonhohenleben3143 3 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of Hitler's abandonship of the Germans, despite him and his generals failing in each and every military aspect by 1943.

@HailNeatoBurrito 3 жыл бұрын

It would have been really interesting to see a Civil War between the Imperials loyal to Palpatine and the Imperials who genuinely believed in the Empire.

@cesarlopez9995 2 жыл бұрын

Like in George Lucas' original draft for the sequel s

@canisarcani 2 жыл бұрын

you mean like what happened in legends? yeah, it was interesting.

@inspectorjavert9868 2 жыл бұрын

Read Crimson Dawn if you can find it or the audiobook. It's non-canon now but it's pretty much about that

@Nedzilla345 2 жыл бұрын

The Cade Skywalker series did a very good job showcasing this idea.

@M05tly 2 жыл бұрын

The direction Disney has taken starwars is so disappointing. The material and the creativity it made possible has been totally wrecked.

@Lonewolf360gaming 3 жыл бұрын

Palpatine:We sHall rUle tHe GaLAxY Also palpatine: let's just destroy our planets because why not

@TheSequimKid 3 жыл бұрын

"If I can't have it, then no can."

@guts-141 3 жыл бұрын

Palpatine didn't want them to outlive him

@kahnac6194 3 жыл бұрын

Because he is/was a petty, spiteful villain with the mentality "If I can't have it, then noone can: not my enemies, and not the Empire I created that couldn't even serve and protect me like I MADE them for! Nobody touches my things, and no way in hell am I going to be outlived by failures - specifically the ones who let me down." Even in death, all he cares about is punishing the ones who fail him, and screwing everyone over.

@thedemonhater7748 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheSequimKid you joke, but this was literally the plan

@TheSequimKid 3 жыл бұрын

@@thedemonhater7748 i know.

@mysticwraith6667 3 жыл бұрын

"We shall destroy the rebellion by going after the people who had nothing to do with it 👿"

@benrussell-gough1201 3 жыл бұрын

To Palpatine, that made sense. It tells you everything that you need to know about him and his 'New Order'.

@Destiny87 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure the idea was "Look what we do to our own people. Imagine what we'll do to you!"

@clearshade3560 3 жыл бұрын

He doesn’t want rebels to win it back that easily. I’m sure the bigger gap from his time and rule til the next big thing the more he would be remembered

@emily1 3 жыл бұрын

The reality is, Palpatine didn't want anyone to have the empire if he can't. Kind of a punishment for his (then apparent) death.

@DaveS_shuttle 3 жыл бұрын

@@emily1 Exactly. It's known as "the scroched earth policy" and aims to destroy anything no matter how insignificant it might be to prevent it from falling under enemy control.

@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep 3 жыл бұрын

Fun fact, the actress who voice acts and motion captured Commander Iden Versio in this game (and who she's modeled after), Janina Gavankar, was a puppeteer in ONE shot of The Mandalorian: the Mon Calamari fisherman with the sweater. It wasn't even a planned cameo or anything. Her friend was just down a puppeteer and she filled in. Everyone on set was very confused, including Dave Filoni.

@sleepyrodent Жыл бұрын

Shiva Kamini Soma Kandarkram!!!

@AndrewAce. 8 ай бұрын

Lmao

@Commanderziff 3 жыл бұрын

"The only way to re-establish control over what we've lost is to destroy what we still have!" The Emperor truly was a strategic mastermind. It gets even more brilliant in hindsight, now that we know he wasn't even dead. He just wanted his next match with the Rebellion to be on "Expert" mode. Then he got bored and used a cheat code for 1,000 ships. A very complex and nuanced strategy.

@dorrito 2 жыл бұрын

He was dead. He got thrown down a reactor and blew up. He was dead here, this was written before the current version of 9 as a last recorded order. Disney's/j.j.'s bad last minute writing didn't change that.

@adamj8917 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the sequels were bonkers.

@snapdragon9300 2 жыл бұрын

Don't worry, Disney activated cheat mode with Reys Mary Sue character.😆

@SpaceAtomz 2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t call him a strategic mastermind, he just ruled with fear. He’s practically the Stalin of this franchise

@budgetbrick5124 2 жыл бұрын

Guess palpatine was having a gamer rage

@kimmeeb 3 жыл бұрын

My parents were really confused during the Operation Cinder scene in Mandalorian, meanwhile I was just wide-eyed with my hands to my mouth realizing what Mayfeld was referring to, what he saw. Kudos to him for killing that commander asshat

@adamsarellano7655 Жыл бұрын

soyjack moment

@MegaZeta Ай бұрын

Why did the pudgy captain order that lady to go do something crucial to their campaign by herself after she openly suggested treason? He seems poorly written

@cosmickeyboard9811 2 жыл бұрын

"So what happens now" "We retaliate" *Procceds to destroy their own planets*

@MegaZeta Ай бұрын

"I question our orders and the entire power structure that gives us orders. I openly refuse to obey you, this is my declaration of high treason" "I disapprove, anyway here's your mission, it's absolutely vital to our effort, we're putting everything in your hands so please do a good job"

@firstlast9846 3 жыл бұрын

*Rahs, That Droid is Terrifying* the way it went from 0-100 in seconds when She isn’t Verified

@wj3186 3 жыл бұрын

Dad just chilin with the freak thing like theys friends now. wtf.

@razzo086 3 жыл бұрын

This even better now after the last Mandalorian episode

@EvanYoungMusic 3 жыл бұрын

This now makes way more sense like how Rogue One made A New Hope even more impactful.

@LordVader1094 2 жыл бұрын

@@EvanYoungMusic No it doesn't. After Rise of Skywalker it makes LESS sense. Why would Palpatine destroy his own Empire because of dying when he was never actually dead?

@kinzle6831 2 жыл бұрын

@@LordVader1094 Because the game came out before the sequel trilogy and no one expected the shitty twist that ol' palpatine was alive.

@tarquiniuskelompok3708 2 жыл бұрын

@@LordVader1094 thats the sequel for you

@thomasmadden3080 2 жыл бұрын

@@kinzle6831 ya initially Palp wanted to dissolve the entire empire if he could no longer rule the galaxy, a spiteful itch indeed

@danieldevito6380 3 жыл бұрын

This is why I love The Mandalorian. They use source material from everything

@comicon-trailers-n-talks42069 Жыл бұрын

Even from the non canon Ewok films... The Blurg in the first season was from there

@YodaOnABender Жыл бұрын

Even the bad stuff like this

@scottf5791 14 күн бұрын

yes and it's still crap

@Maskofanonymity 3 жыл бұрын

I believe Valin Hess(the officer in the mandalorian) explained it the best. The empire was going to cause as much disorder as possible so that the people of the galaxy would become so fatigued and exhausted from war and crime that they would welcome the empire and the order they could bring. The use of satellite lasers on planets that were loyal to the empire was used as an reminder of what the empire was not only capable, but willing to do to keep themselves in control.

@flightoftheagitator386 3 жыл бұрын

+Dirk Diggler Is your tin foil hat store bought or home made? 🤔

@Fulcrox 3 жыл бұрын

How fucking retarded writing can be these Days lmao I mean, is Star Wars but still

@flashgordonsthemesong2838 3 жыл бұрын

@@cibo889 Even then the Inquisitors often faced scrutiny for it. Some were even deemed traitors to the Imperium for committing unnecessary exterminatus. Even in the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, there is still a recognition that genocide is wrong.

@pheonix940 3 жыл бұрын

The thing is, it didn't make sense. There was little tactical or strategic gain from destroying imperial controlled worlds. Yes, you strike fear into other imperial controlled worlds and maybe make them less likely to defect, but you lose an entire world, and all the resources it provides. Not only that, but atrocities like this are what drive people to revolt in the first place.

@Maskofanonymity 3 жыл бұрын

@@pheonix940 I agree and I think it wasn't a well thought out plot point for the game and star wars as a whole. If it was presented as a more petty, 'if I can't have it, then no one can' motivation by the emperor, then it would make more sense. Unfortunately there is no evidence to support this fully.

@faded9581 3 жыл бұрын

There are issues with its conception from the pov of literally anyone who isn’t Palpatine, but from his own twisted mindset this kind of order makes perfect sense. Sith ideology dictates that there is absolutely nothing after death outside of what one has literally or physically built, a legacy or an apprentice. Therefore, Sith dedicate themselves over mastering death and doing whatever is humanely possible to ensure their supremacy in life If Palpatine dies, then, to him, nothing remains. He doesn’t benefit from an empire that immortalizes him, because he is dead, and there is nothingness. Thus, in the ultimate act of spite, he annihilates his own empire, preventing an individual from inheriting the Empire he selfishly clutched onto for himself, and only himself. Why the Imperial officers adhered to such orders, I find most bizarre. Even the most staunchest of loyalists would give pause to the murders of their own families.

@andrewxu3602 3 жыл бұрын

^^^

@Fulcrox 3 жыл бұрын

Not Even the Old Republic Sith lords had such retarded plans

@joecarter1486 3 жыл бұрын

Palpatine is more than strong enough to return as a ghost and possess someone though. That's why in Old Cannon they had to used jedi ghosts to hold him.

@beckonerseven9517 3 жыл бұрын

Stalin did scorched earth too. Malignant narcissists would rather sink a ship than let anybody else be the captain.

@beckonerseven9517 3 жыл бұрын

The Imperial Officers were all malignant sociopaths, they had zero issues carrying out such orders. Flying Monkeys of narcissists with military power use their station as an outlet for their evil

@EvanYoungMusic 3 жыл бұрын

So incredible they tied in Battlefront 2 with Mandalorian.

@AgeDrain 3 жыл бұрын

It seems to have been from a comic source material. The game and the show referenced from it.

@rodrigomdias3001 3 жыл бұрын

@@AgeDrain the game story is canon, also Fallen Order

@microsoftpowerpoint3039 3 жыл бұрын

@@rodrigomdias3001 cool

@jakelee5096 3 жыл бұрын

@@rodrigomdias3001 Fallen Order is a pile of horse shit and non-canon

@angelmedinanieves8935 3 жыл бұрын

@@jakelee5096 Keep crying, Fallen Order is Canon and it was amazing 🤏

@MikMoen 3 жыл бұрын

When I first played through I thought the Satellites were just affecting the atmosphere, altering the climate. The visuals made it appear that way to me. Didn't realize they were literally energy weapons vaporizing the surface.

@guts-141 3 жыл бұрын

If you want a better visual of it then go watch HALO Reach glassing scenes Basically same thing

@obiwankenobi687 3 жыл бұрын

I think they do just affect the climate, it seemed that way in the shattered empire comics

@kennethhuang3878 3 жыл бұрын

They do just affect the climate. The satellites create electrical storms on any planet. In the case with Mayfield’s platoon, they were wiped out with the rest of a city because the city was in open rebellion. Fun fact, Burning Konn is actually depicted in the mobile game Star Wars: Uprising.

@MirzaKhalid 3 жыл бұрын

So that means Elon Musk is doing the same thing by building and sending special satellites all over the Earth with his great plan 🤔

@JayTimmons 3 жыл бұрын

@@MirzaKhalid probably not

@Foxtrop13 3 жыл бұрын

"the rebels most not learn about our intentions about operation cinder!" proceeds to explain their intentions via radio communication in a battle

@MegaZeta Ай бұрын

"I'm declaring my insubordination and intent to commit high treason, loudly and in full earshot of your officers" "Hm well im very grumpy at you. Anyway here's a really important mission to our desperate war effort, we really need this one to go well"

@guilhermehank4938 3 жыл бұрын

The moment you realize that palpatine is alive all along makes this operation look a whole more preposterous than ever before

@jameskarg3240 3 жыл бұрын

Sith emperors have a single end goal: Become a Force Lich and live forever by feeding on the living force as its forced out of all things by death and destruction. Its why, even in the days of the old republic, sith emperors did EXACTLY as palpatine: Mega-weapons to kill whole planets of people, feed off the residual force from it all, ensuring your own power would trandscend even death itself.

@guilhermehank4938 3 жыл бұрын

@@jameskarg3240 That still doesnt answer the question as to WHY Palpatine would want his empire brought down to "cinders" if he is still alive. I will tell you the answer Because Rian Johnson killed Snoke and they panicked

@jameskarg3240 3 жыл бұрын

@@guilhermehank4938 Not saying it made sense, just saying hes not the first and its nit new for sith. Ally, enemy, neutral. To a would-be demigod, the source doesnt matter. If the force can make one trandscend death, to hell with the methods, theyll make it happen even if they have to sacrifice their own empire to do it. That all Sith emperors ever viewed their "subjects" as: A disposable means to an end. Nothing more. It may seem an out of the blue illogical step by disney, but look at fhe hsitory and see: This is NOTHING new to the sith. If anything, its an average tuesday at worst.

@yassiryabeta3204 3 жыл бұрын

@@guilhermehank4938 Yes, Snoke might have been an interesting antagonist but they screwed him up, like there aren't more bad and powerful people in the universe, what a waste

@infinitedm5396 3 жыл бұрын

Actually in terms of their end goals, this actually makes -more- sense. There are like three layers to operation cinder: The most obvious layer was to sow chaos, and show strength. make the galaxy want the level of calm air-tight control the empire provided. The second layer was a punishment, as others have quoted, "If an Empire cannot protect its Emperor then that Empire must be deemed a failure." The last point, and it's the most "rational" if we can call it that, is the culling of the empire to shrink it to a manageable size -and- to ensure only the most loyal and devoted are within its ranks. Those that can take a direct order to glass their own home world are the insane loyalists you want left for you after your empire fails to protect you. So, if we take all that context, and put it alongside "What does the Avatar of Narcissism want to do?" We get operation cinder. A batshit crazy idea that... actually makes a kind of twisted sense.

@_sausageman_ 3 жыл бұрын

*shoots self in the foot* “yeah bet you don’t wanna mess with me now huh?” Basically what’s going on

@thalmoragent9344 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Dumbest thing imaginable

@sirsneakybeaky 2 жыл бұрын

In fairness I wouldnt want to fuck with a dude who is willing to shoot himself in the foot.

@MegaZeta Ай бұрын

"I declare our orders null and void and myself in open insubordination as well as treason against you and this military" "Ah well i disapprove. Please go perform this mission now, it's vitally important to our endangered war effort"

@CedarHunt 3 жыл бұрын

"The emperor is dead and we want to be sure that we are also defeated and, if captured, executed for war crimes by destroying our own financial, production and manpower bases to ensure that we lose the war as quickly and efficientlyas possible." Just go with it I guess.

@adams303 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah absolutely terrible "writing"

@sirboomsalot4902 3 жыл бұрын

@@adams303 Its not terrible writing. Palpatines thinking was “If I can’t have it, no one can”

@adams303 3 жыл бұрын

@@sirboomsalot4902 and why would anyone go along with that after he is dead? It doesn't make any sense at all. Especially killing civilians on their home planet. And it wasn't a case of "if I can't have it no one can" - it was to sow fear. This is the recurrent problem with star wars writing. Every bad guy wants to build an absurd superweapon that can blow up whole planets which makes absolutely no sense.

@pwaw 3 жыл бұрын

@@adams303 I mean, tons of them didn't go along with it. Pretty much only the fanatics. There's a reason a major political faction of the New Republic is made up of former Imperials who still believe in Authoritarianism but didn't want any part of operation Cinder. Plus they're more and more fleshing out the idea of there having been breakaway warlords other than the First Order.

@ss_pieman9677 3 жыл бұрын

@@adams303 lmao y’all need to look into history when you ask the question “no one would ever do that” the Germans did the EXACT SAME THING in WWII. When it was obvious the war had turned in favor of the Allies, Hitler authorized the Scorched Earth policy. Destroy and burn EVERYTHING as they retreated from the Soviets. If Hitler couldn’t have it or use it then no one could.

@JC-mi7wn 3 жыл бұрын

15:32 I like how the crew of the Corvus were loyal to Iden and Meeko

@callumemery1700 3 жыл бұрын

i didnt realise they even had a crew outside the 3 inferno members thats cool

@7oy 3 жыл бұрын

I thought they were some of the civilians they were rescuing.

@sirboomsalot4902 3 жыл бұрын

She likely didn’t have much of a crew. Raider can technically be manned by only a single person, though typically they had larger crews.

@theshiftybeef6251 3 жыл бұрын

Wow dude Bill Burr, surprises me Disney let him be in there with how he is. I think he’s funny af for the record.

@abdulkhafidsulaymaan 3 жыл бұрын

How is he exactly?

@theshiftybeef6251 3 жыл бұрын

@@abdulkhafidsulaymaan He’s hilarious but it’s adult humor... His bits go anywhere from politics to slapping women. I take it if you’re asking you have never heard him on stage in a comedy club.

@abdulkhafidsulaymaan 3 жыл бұрын

@@theshiftybeef6251 I've listened to most all of his stuff. he was on Chappelle show and in Breaking Bad.

@robertcremin3291 3 жыл бұрын

Apparently it was Jon Favreau who offered him the role because he thought it would be funny if he was in Star Wars after Bill said publically that he didn’t like Star Wars

@TheLiamster 3 жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly, we first see Operation Cinder in the Shattered Empire comics.

@anoven7008 3 жыл бұрын

True, doubt you can post an entire comic in a video tho but those comics were awesome

@jacobnewcombe5367 3 жыл бұрын

@@anoven7008 there is entire channels that do just that. You can't use text to much, mostly just empty speech bubbles and narration lol. It works. "Read" all the Vader comics this way.

@P0l1ux 3 жыл бұрын

I have the comic sitting somewhere in my room

@captainpi9724 3 жыл бұрын

"They must not discover our plans!". Proceeds to lay out the whole plan over comms for no reason in the middle of a space battle because you can't intercept comms or anything like that.

@chukwudiilozue9171 2 жыл бұрын

OpSec died.

@LB-py9ig 2 жыл бұрын

Any smart rebel would have not interfered. Cinder is guaranteed to engineer a rebel victory. It's basically the "Join the rebellion if you want to live" order.

@jameswalton5896 3 жыл бұрын

Oh wow I played the mission and didn’t even know what they was talking about on the show

@carlosmondragon6639 3 жыл бұрын

I just now did also. So much movies could never budget tO fully explain. If the corporate douchebags could get the stick out of their ass they could make mor3 than theiR stupid cash grab movies from write to who don't love oR have no love for This genrE. Hollywood wake the fuck up!!!!!!!!

@NRDoesStuff 3 жыл бұрын

@@carlosmondragon6639 it’s just a reference dude calm the fuck down

@xxTheFlyingPigxx 3 жыл бұрын

@@carlosmondragon6639 Chill.

@leonardonatera2344 3 жыл бұрын

@@carlosmondragon6639 you want a hug?

@nicholasthuya7683 3 жыл бұрын

@@carlosmondragon6639 lol Star Wars is now owned by Disney not Hollywood

@CMage101 2 жыл бұрын

Palpatine wasn't doing this for the Empire. He was doing it for HIM. The Dark Lords all have one thing in common; sacrifice others to bring the Sith power. Death on that scale empowered the Dark Side of the Force, which is what Palpatine intended. The only order Palpatine was concerned with was the order he gave to others.

@olimar7647 Жыл бұрын

Oh, wait a minute.... That might actually explain things even better. See, Cinder seemed like a rage quit sort of thing from what I knew of it, but considering the very real likelihood of such evil empowering the Dark Side, this could have been part of his plan to ensure he survived. He had enough power on his own to cling to "life" for a while, but not enough to return. And so he made Cinder to bolster the Dark Side and thus his powers. Which makes this all the more disgusting, as it basically means he was performing human sacrifice..... I prefer the Rage Quit theory, please.

@CMage101 Жыл бұрын

@@olimar7647 Like that would've been the FIRST time that Sith tried to gain power by sacrificing the lives of others.....

@olimar7647 Жыл бұрын

@@CMage101 I don't know of many instances where they've done it in a cult-like ritual, though. They've done plenty of murder to allow themselves to grow unopposed, but to me, ritual sacrifice adds another layer of disgust

@olimar7647 Жыл бұрын

@@CMage101 but yes, valid point either way

@gibbs615 Жыл бұрын

See the empire has always been evil and Palpatine has corrupted those who blindly joined it and they became evil themselves cause they didn't have very strong wills as Iden and Del did here.

@SourRobo8364 3 жыл бұрын

Jon Favreau: "Alright, people weren't impressed by the storylines those other idiots made, how can I use this that respects the time fans have dedicated to the franchise?"

@dafphtthedislikeupdater7836 3 жыл бұрын

Jon Favreau: *aggressively respects the franchise*

@bigblue207 3 жыл бұрын

Seriously though the battlefront 2 campaign was ridiculously forgettable

@darthnater9731 3 жыл бұрын

At this point the fans don't deserve jon or dave. They have acted like spoiled brats for the past 22 years. They do not deserve respect because all they do is whine and bitch about shit.

@thanatosstorm 3 жыл бұрын

@@darthnater9731 And yet Dave and Jon both are part of those spoiled brats and have returned the favor in spades. This is the way, Sith.

@darthnater9731 3 жыл бұрын

@@thanatosstorm lol charming how you think calling me a sith is an insult. I'll take it lol. So I'm guessing you're one of those pissbaby fanboys who forced george to sell the company. Yeah it's your fault. Yes jon and dave are huge fans but they're not toxic like you and the other fanboys. It's the fanboys fault that George sold.

@yseson_ 3 жыл бұрын

A lot of people can’t understand why Palpatine wanted operation Cinder it seems counterintuitive. Unfortunately the Empire was little more than a trophy, proof of Sith supremacy and the supremacy of Darth Sidious’ genius it had no point as far as he was concerned beyond his existence

@Lawgamer411 3 жыл бұрын

This just makes me want Iden in live action even more now. I feel like they cast her in the game knowing she could translate perfectly over to TV or Animation.

@bwtrader 2 жыл бұрын

Would be great to see the actress in Mandolorian

@LordVader1094 2 жыл бұрын

What would there be to even do with her? She turned rebel and then did nothing for 30 years and died.

@singmysin 2 жыл бұрын

@@LordVader1094 if it wasn't for her the rebels wouldn't have found starkiller base

@bobthebuilder1360 2 жыл бұрын

@@bwtrader she's literally in the mandolarian she plays a random background character

@TonySpike 3 жыл бұрын

I like how the emporer bot basically does his hand movements too lol

@pewpewpew5892 3 жыл бұрын

The Imperial kool-aid must be the best tasting liquid in the galaxy next to blue milk to have people pull this off.

@iDropPhats 3 жыл бұрын

The fact that I completely forgot that Bill Burr was in the mandalorian makes the first scene one of the best I’ve ever seen 😂

@piplup2009 2 жыл бұрын

Palpatine: "when I die destroy everything the empire has done" Palpatines clone: "I did not think that one through"

@TrentonBennett 2 жыл бұрын

It's cool to see animation for characters in games like this has come such a long way. They look like real people now.

@Resjek 3 жыл бұрын

Your editing needs a lot more appreciation bro. You did good

@glp 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Your comment is much appreciated. 👍

@shogunpug4071 2 жыл бұрын

What did he do? Lmao cuts?

@ninianstorm6494 Жыл бұрын

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@brodymills899 2 жыл бұрын

“Execute Operation Rage Quit.”

@asianboy969 3 жыл бұрын

Operation Cinder (aka. If I can’t have it, no one can have it) I think if the Madolorian out 1st then the game, the main story would not get a lots of hate because of typical Imperial Troop defections THIS IS THE REASON WHY THEY LEAVE THE EMPIRES

@darkcoeficient 3 жыл бұрын

I don't think you understood the backlash.

@Fulcrox 3 жыл бұрын

Not Even close, the Backslash is because they promised an imperial story (specially in the trailers), and instead they gave the most childish conception of changing sides, while making the Empire even more stupid

@makisbizarreadventure4669 Жыл бұрын

@@Fulcrox I mean the concept of the Empire infighting from those who believed the Empire is above all and others who actually believed in the Empire is not a bad concept

@Fulcrox Жыл бұрын

@@makisbizarreadventure4669 The thing is, they are not infighting, they are just throwing Mayhem randomly at their own possessions for no reason

@richcast66 3 жыл бұрын

So destroy those that were loyal to you, so that others can join the rebellion. Logic

@ObviouslyNotXenrek 3 жыл бұрын

typical scorched earth tactics. rally/consolidate forces within a territory you *can* control in absolute. destroy everything else as you leave. makes your "new" borders more secure, and leaves nothing usable for the enemy in the lands youve abandoned. Sure, the rebellion can gather all the soldiers they want from the various devastated worlds, but they will be without the infrastructure to even feed them all, let alone equip/maintain them as an army. In fact, if your assuming (as they claimed earlier when Versio suggested capturing their cruiser instead of destroying it) that your enemies primary weakness is their "compassion", then bogging down their resources with an insurmountable refugee crisis would be a pretty significant way to cripple their ability to continue funding/orchestrating insurrectionist movements

@richcast66 3 жыл бұрын

@@patrickhurley5457 Are you alright man? Do you need help?

@CoolSmoovie 3 жыл бұрын

For those that don’t know in Legends after years of fighting after Endor the Empire and the New Republic was like, “alright we gunna do this forever till one of us is dead?” They believably signed a peace treaty and let the Empire still contest a quarter or more since you know entire generations grew up on these Imperial worlds. Realistic, believable writing that draws parallels to real world Nation relations. The Imperials aren’t evil to be evil, the fight for what they think is right like most people do.

@CoolSmoovie Жыл бұрын

@@Sam-pie I get that their evil, but it still makes no sense. How can you continue a war by destroying all of your material and recruiting worlds. I can buy evil, but I cannot buy stupid.

@MrYarik04 Жыл бұрын

@@Sam-pie what was so bad about the Empire apart from blowing up Alderaan (which can too be excused in a certain way). That they removed democracy from the Senate? Boo hoo, there wasn’t much in the Republic times anyway. The Republic, by the way, wasn’t that good of a power anyway. The things Palpy said about the senators being full of themselves is true, there was still slavery, they supressed the separatist movement with violence, and so on. Lucas, in his movies, did not establish anyone to be evil for the sake of being evil, Anakin literally bragged about bringing peace and stability to his new empire. Bro didn’t lie

@steadyjumper3547 Жыл бұрын

@@Sam-pie I thought the whole point of Star Wars was that Vader a character that seems completely evil can be redeemed and does have depth for why they might become the way they are? Shouldn’t more of that be a good thing?

@theman3274 Жыл бұрын

@@Sam-pie Blowing up a planet is just as bad as nuking a city.

@accountname9506 Жыл бұрын

@@MrYarik04 lots of slavery. government endorsed slavery. murdering entire civilian populations for 'weapons tests' (read: jedha). just... so much. That doesn't mean that the empire doesn't have people trying to good within it. It literally spanned the galaxy (well, the part of the star wars galaxy that was accessable). You had billions upon billions of people in Imperial service. However, the Empire as a whole was, you know, run by a dark lord of the sith, who has a vested intrest in making people suffer.

@AshtonCoolman 3 жыл бұрын

This is the slowest Exterminatus I've ever seen!

@alexmercer5414 2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@bwtrader 2 жыл бұрын

It’s no Death Star...

@literalsarcasm1830 3 жыл бұрын

There is no amount of loyalty that will ever outweigh a person's right to choose.

@benrussell-gough1201 3 жыл бұрын

That is a statement that, in Shreev Palpatine's mind, would mark you as the vilest type of traitor.

@literalsarcasm1830 3 жыл бұрын

@@benrussell-gough1201 well he's dead, so his opinion doesn't really matter much anymore.

@literalsarcasm1830 3 жыл бұрын

@Autismo’s 4th Backup I'll just go the same route Discovery haters go and say the sequels are in an alternate timeline and therefore don't count towards canon.

@Cybop-xd9mm 3 жыл бұрын

Literal Sarcasm no ones ever really gone 🤭

@literalsarcasm1830 3 жыл бұрын

@@Cybop-xd9mm if my eyes rolled any harder, I'd collapse from a seizure.

@TheFacelessStoryMaker Жыл бұрын

I love how Palpatine never considered this helping the Rebellion. By basically saying "See. Even if you are loyal to the Empire they will still crush you and kill you. Why not stand up and defend yourselves?"

@mastheace5789 3 жыл бұрын

I think it would’ve been cooler to play the game from Hask’s perspective, seeing the horrors of Operation Cinder that cause his friends to desert, but he still stays with the Empire. We’d also get to see the rise of the First Order and the creation of the Dreadnaught.

@LunarSault23 2 жыл бұрын

They should make it a dlc

@jerrettmarks6399 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but then we wouldn't get muh epic strong independent female of color protagonist

@ghost1189 2 жыл бұрын

@@jerrettmarks6399 imagine being mad about that

@robos3809 2 жыл бұрын

Ok are you also gonna ask for a game about ww2 playing as the nazis

@dylanroemmele906 Жыл бұрын

@@robos3809 I mean, yeah, it's required in most WW2 games to let you play as the Germans, especially in a MP game like COD or Hell Let Loose or even games like HOI4. You essentially idolize them by making them this big scary thing that can't be touched, which is a very bad thing.

@CrunchyRhombus 3 жыл бұрын

Didnt even notice that the reference in the show referred to this. Thanks for sharing!

@jeo228 3 жыл бұрын

This ended the entire "the empire was in the right" argument in one moment

@jackbriggs3874 3 жыл бұрын

I think there are now two version of the empire at this current time. The fraction in the unknown region after jakku and the ones in the mandolorian. Two empires with two different goals.

@andrewxu3602 3 жыл бұрын

Three empires: the faction in the Unknown Regions, the ones in The Mandalorian, and the ones that just signed a peace treaty after Jakku and plays no part in what's going on in the galaxy.

@jackbriggs3874 3 жыл бұрын

Thrawn would also be the leader of the imperials in mando since he was missing during operation cinder along with the death of the emperor

@jonathan4353 3 жыл бұрын

I think the empire is kinda scattered and messy after their defeat in endor and after being leaderless as the emperor presumably died. So they have multiple high ranked leaders with goals of their owns in multiple places of the galaxy

@Jachammer93 3 жыл бұрын

@@jonathan4353 yup you nailed it. Like after Djengis died, the empire is scattered and warlords like Gideon are grasping for power. It's not unified under a leader any more, it's many smaller groups who previously were the empire.

@loganh4642 3 жыл бұрын

His plan kinda makes sense, root out the weak, but for what? Oh yeah...Star destroyers with Death Star guns...at least they’re being constant

@ting280 3 жыл бұрын

he wasn't rooting out the weak, he was sowing fear and discord. the people on the ground wouldn't know why the city was destroyed, the US I mean the Empire could just go ahead and say it was Iran or China I mean the Rebellion

@ddddd9665 3 жыл бұрын

If you equate Iran or China with the Rebellion then you are lost. China has literal concentration camps for fuck sake.

@ting280 3 жыл бұрын

@@ddddd9665 No I don't say they're freedom fighters out here saving the world I said they're the scapegoats the military industrial complex has the media point to as the villains to justify inflated defense spending.

@compmanio36 3 жыл бұрын

@@ddddd9665 "China has literal concentration camps for fuck sake." And we ally ourselves with them for cheap shit at Walmart. Makes you think.

@bm337 3 жыл бұрын

@@compmanio36 makes you think how there are no good guys in this world. All world powers are bad, some are just better at hiding it.

@skywolfx76 Жыл бұрын

The fact the troopers were willing to stay knowing about the orbital strike is scary dedication

@caninelupus8369 Жыл бұрын

Stormtroopers were chosen for their fanaticism and loyalty.

@skywolfx76 Жыл бұрын

@@caninelupus8369 they definitely had a great and rooted loyalty to the promise of the empire. And really, they were just people at the end of the day. People who wanted to not only make a difference but keep themselves and probably their loved ones safe

@djspit8929 2 жыл бұрын

When he brought up Cinder in that scene i remembered this and thought "damn, how'd he even survive it?"

@ethanmitchell7479 3 жыл бұрын

“Civilians are expendable....” What kind of madness is that!

@yoshidinono8095 3 жыл бұрын

I remember hearing Cinder in the show, and I was like "wait, WHAT!?!"

@amazingbro6723 3 жыл бұрын

They glassed their own planet then... Edit: I know why they did it but that leaves the question, do they consider it holy?

@Crackshotsteph 3 жыл бұрын

If an Empire cannot protect its Emperor then that Empire must be deemed a failure.

@Crackshotsteph 3 жыл бұрын

They glassed multiple Imperial Worlds.

@combatwighty 3 жыл бұрын

@@Crackshotsteph what are they... The Covenant?

@hilnnerfarias913 3 жыл бұрын

The empire has been glassing it's own planets for some time.

@amazingbro6723 3 жыл бұрын

@@hilnnerfarias913 the question is, do they consider it holy?

@THESnipz 3 жыл бұрын

While I love Star Wars, I was really hoping for a actual empire side of the war. Not just “oh the empire is Evil we must go to the rebels”, like we get in these types of storys every time. I wanted something different and refreshing. Showing why so many people would risk their lives for the Empire, what they believed was right.

@MellowMeh 3 жыл бұрын

A good book called Lost Stars gives you an idea on people who grew up and joined the empire. Not a show or movie but it's still a good story. I recommend getting the audiobook if you don't have time to read.

@Waaaghtatic 3 жыл бұрын

This is showing that type of story. The ultimate take away from it is that the Empire isn't worth risking your life for in the end, because it actually isn't in the right at all.

@chancecarlson2023 3 жыл бұрын

Thats the point, the empire wasn't right and was blatantly evil

@waterlight0243 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, hate to say it bud but the Empire is like 100 percent evil. Like maybe the rebels can be a bit shady, but nothing compared to the empire. The only reason why people would die for the empire is because of propaganda and fear

@failandia 3 жыл бұрын

So you want a film that actually defend a genocidal dictatorship. How about no ?

@20PINKluvr 3 жыл бұрын

Wow this game has cutscenes that are just as good as a live action movie

@Shiirow 3 жыл бұрын

his first order as emperor was genocide, his last order as emperor was genocide. consistency is key I suppose.

@TheFirstCurse1 3 жыл бұрын

I actually liked some of the story elements from EA Battlefront 2. Operation Cinder makes perfect sense for my man Pappa Palps, and seeing how it affected the Imperials was cool. But it shouldn't have been about destroying the Rebellion. It would have been better if Palpatine wanted to take the world with him, because if he can't have "his" world, no one can. I do wish though that we'd get a game where we were like counter "terrorist" Storm Troopers or something. Hell Star Wars needs more games PERIOD.

@LordVader1094 2 жыл бұрын

>makes perfect sense for Palps No it doesn't? He had no reason to destroy his own Empire cuz he was still alive.

@TheFirstCurse1 2 жыл бұрын

@@LordVader1094 Oh I see what you mean. I'm forgetting the sequel trilogy, and I haven't ever considered it to be canon. Most fans don't.

@Revkor 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheFirstCurse1 even takign that out still doesn't. It's a dumb idea and of course EA and Disney make it up

@greenpigking6974 Жыл бұрын

@@LordVader1094 I thought he was resurrected. I don’t think we know for a fact he’s alive at all.

@floseatyard8063 Жыл бұрын

Pure fax

@mannycuevas6961 3 жыл бұрын

I had played Star Wars Battlefront 2. I forgot about the name of this operation up until now. I like how the people who work with Star Wars still bind everything together within the movies and shows as well.

@TCWRebelsResistanceWords Жыл бұрын

First time I heard of Operation Cinder was in the first book of the Alphabet Squadron trilogy. I was completely horrified by it. But seeing this was even more terrifying!

@Orcawhale1 3 жыл бұрын

Ever since Disney took over, the Empire and Palpatine have taken a nose dive in IQ. Yeah, let's kill our own systems and troopers, because we couldn't possible need more man power and starships to fight the rebels. When Palpatine decides to show up with the First order..

@bee5440 3 жыл бұрын

This was legends stuff, before Disney

@threeofakind9933 3 жыл бұрын

@@bee5440 No, Operation Cinder is from the new Battlefront 2, so it's part of Disney Canon.

@Revkor 2 жыл бұрын

@@bee5440 nope in legands a negative result of the Senate beign abloished and guys like Tarkin having direct control it prevented the collapse of the Empire. so the now New Republic had to spend decades fighting. Imperial warlords, a cloned Emperor, Thrawn, a 2nd era of Warlords, Dalla, before Peolleon, thrawn's second in command makes peace with the Republic

@Afineaddition 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder if we'll ever see Iden or her squad in s3 of The Mandalorian or Rangers of the New Republic

@JohnJohn-bz1lq 3 жыл бұрын

Well no because This scene happened right after the second Death Star

@Turbulation1 3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnJohn-bz1lq I mean The mandalorian does take place in 9 ABY which is around a few years after the battle of Jakku and long before Iden dies during TFA. Though Iden did state in battlefront 2 that she never fought in the resistance (and nor the new republic I assume) so we might not see her at all.

@andrewpandrew7786 3 жыл бұрын

Honestly it’s a strong possibility because the actress who played Iden was the model for the character so they look exactly alike!

@JohnJohn-bz1lq 3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewpandrew7786 It’s a strong possibility for it to be not The time difference doesn’t add up Mandalorian takes place years after the empire fell This clip Is literally right after The second Death Star Not too long after Inferno squad broke up so it really is Highly unlikely

@JohnJohn-bz1lq 3 жыл бұрын

@@Turbulation1 yeah Ik Which means they will never meet lmfaooooo

@Beesleys_World 3 жыл бұрын

Me watching it for the first time: “Now there's a man that knows his history.”

@micheljavert5923 3 жыл бұрын

Ahhh, good ol’ Galactic Empire. “What’s the best way to defeat the Rebellion? By burning the Loyalist worlds! That’ll show ‘em!” Real weird how the GE under Palpy’s cartoonishly evil dumb ass only lasted a few decades.

@loganmickelson2415 3 жыл бұрын

One more the sith will rule the galaxy and we shall have... Pieces

@anthonyzullo 2 жыл бұрын

Look, can we just stop for a moment to appreciate that bill burr is just as an amazing of an actor as he is a comedian. Like, I believe him here, his whole episode just felt like him.

@michaeldeitch3642 3 жыл бұрын

It’s really amazing how the events of the galaxy connect with each other

@moises0847 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for showing this, I didn’t even realize this mission was mentioned in the show

@keithw4920 3 жыл бұрын

Star Wars just keeps throwing illogical destruction and new toys at the 'Empire', its getting bloody daft.

@THESnipz 3 жыл бұрын

Completely agree. Don’t like them being evil for no reason. And the cookie cutter, “ the emperor is evil” doesn’t cut it.

@benrussell-gough1201 3 жыл бұрын

I have to agree. If I were in Kathleen Kennedy's place, I would have vetoed Starkiller Base on the grounds of a policy of "No more superweapons".

@failandia 3 жыл бұрын

@@THESnipz palpatine is literally a sith lord, and one of the most twisted the galaxy has ever seen. The emperor is evil for no actual reason since minute one of the first movie, the f are you guys smoking ?

@reno.rodolfo3089 3 жыл бұрын

@@failandia you know, they want EVERYTHING makes a logic and being complex story everytime. Sometimes I don't understand Star Wars fans

@mr.frenzy7304 3 жыл бұрын

@@reno.rodolfo3089 that's the reason why i hate the sw community i love the movies but my ghad the fans destroying there franchise

@tinybass8747 3 жыл бұрын

"The empire's job is to save people from things like operation cinder" bruh did you just not only forget about Alderaan, but that the death star, a planet destroying space station exists.

@kringle1369 3 жыл бұрын

would love to see this in live action series/movie. I’ll watch imperial/empire galactic civil war ALL DAY EVERY DAY

@lucasqualls5086 2 жыл бұрын

Palpatine wanting to punish the empire for failing to protect from death only really works if you'll be able to crush defectors due to the cruelty, AND the rebellion, which clearly they were not.

@The-Ent1ty Жыл бұрын

"Hey, so, the rebellion has killed me so burn the absolute fuck outta one of our planets to get back at the rebellion" -palpatine

@trashblob Жыл бұрын

One? No. Several Socially and Strategically very Important Planets (Burnin Konn, Candovant, Abednedo, Commenor, Nacronis, Naboo and Vardos) should have been burned down because of Operation Cinder. And the Admiral was not the only one who's task it was to execute it.

@a.jthomas6132 3 жыл бұрын

Can't believe that Battlefront II (2017) can't give us an Empire story fans wanted. :(

@THESnipz 3 жыл бұрын

Yep, another cookie cutter, “empire is evil let’s go join the rebels”.

@benrussell-gough1201 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe because the Empire *was* evil and the only morally honest thing to do was to join the Rebels?

@a.jthomas6132 3 жыл бұрын

@@THESnipz Star Wars Squadron show the same cookie cutter as well.

@zandrmandr8300 3 жыл бұрын

@@benrussell-gough1201 we want to fight for the empire. Not against it. Battlefront 2 (the original, not ea) let us do it and never turned us against it. We want a loyalist view.

@benrussell-gough1201 3 жыл бұрын

@@zandrmandr8300 Watch the film "Downfall" for a 'loyalist view'.

@mr.markofski4267 3 жыл бұрын

Before Episode 9: *When your empire fails to protect you so you punish it’s people.* After Episode 9: *When your empire fails to protect you from your fake death so you punish it’s people.*

@krel3358 Жыл бұрын

Its almost like none of this was well planned out and the disney tribe are intentionally messing with star wars to demoralize white people.

@Shadowkey392 3 жыл бұрын

I always love it when film franchises reference their own videogames.

@Prometheus_2931 3 жыл бұрын

honestly love Bill Burr's role in that episode, it's just perfect

@ernestw2474 3 жыл бұрын

Battlefront II (2017) is a Rebel propaganda game.

@THESnipz 3 жыл бұрын

I agree, I wish they would have been brave and make a game about why people would believe in the empire

@benrussell-gough1201 3 жыл бұрын

Could you possibly imagine, just imagine, that it may not be possible to believe in the Empire with any moral honesty and the only people who did so by this point were murderous lunatics and bigoted xenophobes?

@Myuutsuu85 3 жыл бұрын

@@benrussell-gough1201 Just think about logicaly. There is literally zero reason to attack those planets, that are loyal to the empire and still in control by it. You just drive them towards the rebellion. Attacking dissidents and destroying valuable planets that are about to be lost to the Alliance, this may be more reasonable but to think that Operation Cinder would be actually a thing, like it is portrait here, is just outright stupid. With this modus operandi, the Empire would have teared itself apart long before Return of the Jedi.

@centenodyllan 3 жыл бұрын

@@benrussell-gough1201 That’s fine let me play as those xenophobes. I just wanted to be a soldier in the empire

@CaptainRed1000 3 жыл бұрын

@@THESnipz SWTOR does a decent enough job with its recent expansions. Though it isn't the same Empire as the movie's Empire, so maybe that doesn't count.

@Will-sq3ip 3 жыл бұрын

I completely forgotten about “Operation Cinder”.

@Fulcrox 3 жыл бұрын

We all wish to forget that idiocy

@CampaignerSC 3 жыл бұрын

Once can only hope everyone will forget about this writing failure.

@spacejunk2186 3 жыл бұрын

I hoped the writers forgot about it too. Unfotunately, they didn't.

@Nik6644 3 жыл бұрын

@@CampaignerSC how is it a failure exactly? The empire was about to collapse. Scorched earth policy is as old as warfare itself and throwing the galaxy into poverty & disorder is the best thing for a regime that just lost its power (and wants to secretly build up a new one)

@gunterdonnerfaust9616 2 жыл бұрын

I can't help but feel (despite how well done this is, and how epic it honestly is to watch) that the idea is just...ridiculous. Like, shooting your own men in the face for no reason other than to make them fall in line despite the fact that they were already loyal soldiers. "Cutting off your nose to spite your face." I get that it's supposed to be a bad/evil idea but it's so ridiculous that it's just plain stupid for it to even exist IMO. Wouldn't a demonstration of the satellites on a barren world or a hostile world show the exact same thing... it's just kinda stupid, the whole thing, both in the story view and the writing view in my opinion. Why do they gotta make the Empire do tons of batshit stupid stuff to remind everyone "wE'Re eViL"

@Tsugimoto1 2 жыл бұрын

And now you understand in part why the Nazi Regime fell.

@NocturnalAnimations101 Жыл бұрын

i love how all the soldiers aboard her ship, straight away follow Versio's decision to switch sides without thinking twice. That shows loyalty towards the commander =)

@tba1689 10 ай бұрын

It would have been really interesting to see a Cvil War between the Imperials loyal to Palpatine and the Imperials who genuinely believed in the Empire.

@VulturePilot 3 жыл бұрын

And then immediately retconned by TROS lol

@Nimzo25 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, though to be fair, the Imperial people perpetrating this didn’t know of Exegol or the fact that Palpatine was studying immortality via his master’s former teachings, hence the cloning process. Still, those who braved the harshest tests of Operation Cinder and survived the Battle of Jakku got to live to fight another day as the First Order. An army vowing to take back the peace and prosperity of the Empire that the Rebellion/New Republic and Mon Mothma destroyed. Turing the planet Illum into Starkiller Base and making more deadly Stormtroopers from Brendol Hux’s Commandant’s Cadets days is a nice first step...

@exploitofdeleted5864 3 жыл бұрын

Cool people dont consider the new trilogy canon

@cbrreezzyy69 3 жыл бұрын

The Disney trilogy is getting de-canonized. The only people who refuse to believe this are the weirdo reylos.

@Nimzo25 3 жыл бұрын

@@cbrreezzyy69 I ain’t a “Reylo”, I’m more of a First/Final Order to restore the Empire person. The “Reylos” are people who support Rey and Kylo Ren/Ben Solo’s shipping...

@reno.rodolfo3089 3 жыл бұрын

@@cbrreezzyy69 what a fanboy you are

@Lucius_Art 2 жыл бұрын

Her betraying the empire and the emperor is made more insane for those who have read the inferno squad book. I rolled my eyes so hard playing this game.

@stars9084 Жыл бұрын

Before ROS this made perfect sense to me. It's exactly how Palpatine would react to his own death if he could ever allow himself to believe such a thing possible. Other beings exist only to be of use to him. Any Empire who did not fulfill their duty by letting him die while they still lived had no business remaining alive. Now though... it's a little harder to parse

@reynardmisae2518 2 жыл бұрын

Imagine if they made this into a full feature film using the frostbite engine

@BigCrawdaddy 3 жыл бұрын

9:30 he doesn’t look angry at all😂

@cptsponko32 3 жыл бұрын

Didnt that imperial officer play the Night King in Got?

@EMD766 2 жыл бұрын

Palpatine: Well if I can’t have the galaxy then no one can.

@nickf527 Жыл бұрын

Richard Brake as Valin Hess... I would recognize that voice anywhere... That man was born to play villain roles lol

@johnxina3119 3 жыл бұрын

"Long Live The Empire"

@magmos6346 3 жыл бұрын

Another moment where the old EU was smarter written than the new EU.

@anthonyzullo 2 жыл бұрын

The fighter piloting in this game is so funny. Laughs in squadrons*

@Mazryonh 2 жыл бұрын

You're a fan of Star Wars: Squadrons? The starfighter parts of this game were clearly intended to be arcade-like so people could easily learn how to play them.

@jakey........ 2 жыл бұрын

This is an amazing video we need more videos linking the different Star Wars references and media together

@fatboysamurai4419 3 жыл бұрын

So i knew about operation cinder and that confused me even more, Mando takes place 5 years after return of the jedi, so why is operation cinder refered as history? "A man who knows his history" "I lived it" bill bur is like 50, and it would've happened when he was like 45, weird nitpick but they kinda treated it like it was really old

@654ethan 3 жыл бұрын

the galaxy moves fast

@benjamincoll4524 3 жыл бұрын

I suppose that line is more for the audience than the characters

@Helluvabutl3r 3 жыл бұрын

You could argue that time is a man made construct, and that life could be measured in terms of events so who is to say they follow the same rules? We already know for example that days on Venus, Mars, etc. are different than Earth and they go to endless planets in Star Wars. They see so much, and do so much, that it probably feels like forever even though it’s only a few years. I’m sure during a War where you constantly go through hell it feels like it’s never ending

@andrewxu3602 3 жыл бұрын

That, and the fact that it was a massive galaxy-wide event.

@viperblitz11 3 жыл бұрын

I often attribute a character's weird dialogue to flavor, whether it was intentional or not. He may just be trying to feel nostalgic, regardless of how long it's actually been. Or he could have picked out the wrong word in the moment, something that happens all the time in real world conversations. And while I don't like how quickly the Empire fell apart in the current canon, I can at least settle for a thriving remnant in the Outer Rim.

@cv_290 3 жыл бұрын

Bill burr did such an amazing job in this scene.

@acerogers6573 3 жыл бұрын

Man I remember when you had 1k views, it's awesome seeing your progression!

@Jogyot3260 3 жыл бұрын

Boy..... Palpatine sure willing to do everything

@georgeofhamilton 3 жыл бұрын

I don’t think Battlefront II should’ve been received so poorly. The characterization work and moral dilemma are very well done.

@kabeltelevizio 3 жыл бұрын

Are you joking? What moral dilemma is there? It's all so black and white and cartoony. There is no grey area, the bad guys are just unredeemable. This scene specifically, was the most retarded scene in the entire game probably.... Imagine this: Your company is falling apart, the enemy destroyed your biggest base and starship, killed most of the commanding officers and possibly the leadership and what do you do? You start vaporizing one of the few allied planets you have left... What about, I don't know taking control of resource rich planets, establish a new base of operations, lift morale, consolidate your power on territories you have a foothold on? It just makes zero sense. I don't think I am expecting too much from the story....