Nazi Scientist Working for the USA - Part 1 - WW2 Documentary Special
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24 күн бұрынWhy do so many famous American scientists have German names, just like Wernher von Braun? Well, the answer lies in a decade-spanning secret operation conducted by the USA to recruit and harness the intellectual prowess of Nazi Scientists. Stay tuned to learn how Truman, the State Department, and the military all played their parts!
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Let Go of Fear - Howard Harper-Barnes
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Secret Cargo - Craft Case
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Trapped in a Maze - Philip Ayers
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Sense of Betrayal - Experia
Divisive Alliance - Jon Bjork
The Twelve Spies - Silver Maple
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@WorldWarTwo 22 күн бұрын
What do you think, was the recruitment of these scientists justified, or was it an immoral undertaking?
@Shauma_llama 22 күн бұрын
Both? Governments don't have morals. They only pretend to have morals when it's convenient.
@RodolfoGaming 22 күн бұрын
It certainly makes sense, I don't know about the moral aspect of it, havent quite come to terms with the 'best' argument. Hear bits of it on either side
@greenkoopa 22 күн бұрын
The theory of convergent intelligence states that we would've come up with our own rockets a couple years later. They should've paid for their crimes.
@heavyartillery-qm5hu 22 күн бұрын
Moral as fuck
@randomchannel-px6ho 22 күн бұрын
Childish black and white morality left the conversation long ago. I can't really imagine a timeline where US security services don't engage in something like paperclip, especially not with the looming cold war. I really hope you all cover the cold war intensely between here and the korea channel. Particularly I think anti-communist hysteria predating the USSRs existence in the USA and elsewhere deserves a spotlight as do things like the western intervention in the Russia civil war. A lot of recent events illuminate how little the everyman really knows about why and how the cold war happened and I think it's important to dispell the idea the USSR waa some uniquely evil nation that intrisically just couldn't coexist with western powers.
@DXSUCKIT1990 22 күн бұрын
"Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down? That's not my department, " says Wernher von Braun.
@namingisdifficult408 22 күн бұрын
In German oder Englisch I know how to count down Und I’m learning Chinese says Werner von Braun
@washingtonradio 22 күн бұрын
As quoted by Tom Lehrer
@LukeSky2207 22 күн бұрын
It's ironic, because Lehrer worked for the OSS, so he at least probably knew the people who recruited the guy
@fguocokgyloeu4817 21 күн бұрын
I am not really defending von Braun, but isn't that how all defense production works?
@bobloblaw10001 21 күн бұрын
@@fguocokgyloeu4817 von Braun probably at heart was something like 70% committed nazi but he pretended to have been just a scientist. His many denials are just a bit implausible.
@Ghost_wheel 22 күн бұрын
Astrid''s "Hello Darlings" still makes my day.
@justink1985 22 күн бұрын
Every time!
@WorldWarTwo 22 күн бұрын
Thanks for the lovely comment!
@ktipuss 22 күн бұрын
Yes, Astrid and Anna Deinhard make a great team. I hope they continue on as there is going to be heaps of material as the Cold War heats up.
@oregonoutback7779 22 күн бұрын
My father served with the OSS during the war. He had a lot to say about Operation Paperclip. He called von Braun a "Rocket Whore", believing he would side with any country that would finance his rocket addiction. So as not to throw out any spoilers, I will save a comment from my father, while watching the moon landing in 1969, till part 2 😳
@danielwillens5876 22 күн бұрын
I have a hunch I know what you're going to say.
@Adriaticus 22 күн бұрын
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@mikepette4422 22 күн бұрын
doesn't matter what his opinion was von braun obviously preferred to be with the western allies rather than in the USSR and i'm certain like everyone else the preference gap was immeasurable. nobody wanted to be in the USSR
@bishop6218 22 күн бұрын
Holy cliffhanger batman !
@stevekaczynski3793 22 күн бұрын
@@mikepette4422 Nazis, certainly unrepentant ones, definitely preferred the West. The Soviets captured their share of German scientists and technicians and put them to work. Hugo Schmeisser, for example, worked at Izhmash, an important Soviet weapons design centre and factory, until 1952. He returned to East Germany and died the following year.
@MrShobar 17 күн бұрын
Von Braun's autobiography was entitled "I Aim at the Stars". This prompted Mort Sahl to remark: "He aimed at the stars, but frequently hit London".
@ives3572 22 күн бұрын
"War's tragedy is that it uses man's best to do man's worst." - Harry Emerson Fosdick
@davidneel8327 22 күн бұрын
Von Braun once, in his later years, spoke at my engineering college.
@WorldWarTwo 22 күн бұрын
Must have been an interesting day, do you remember much?
@ZebraLens 22 күн бұрын
Having lived in Huntsville, Alabama USA (when i was in college there), if anyone ever visted there, you would think at first glance that Von Braun was a notable city figurehead, and would not have figured he was a former SS scientist, the way we hold such esteem for him and his work. Not to mention he helped build the space research economy that Huntsville is known for now 😊 So I'm not surprised Von Braun was part of the SS. Fantastic video as always ladies ❤❤❤❤❤ Thank You #TimeGhost
@milesexplains 22 күн бұрын
How much fun are these two having!
@WorldWarTwo 22 күн бұрын
Must be hard not too when working with a mother daughter duo!
@foolsfolly3476 22 күн бұрын
The number one group of specialists recruited by paperclip were psychologists🤔
@thomasknobbe4472 22 күн бұрын
Well, that war got cold pretty fast. This is all news to me. As a sidebar, I note how the JIOA included Air Force intelligence as a separate member. The Air Force was indeed covering all bases in its effort to become its own branch of the military.
@annehersey9895 22 күн бұрын
I’m going to miss Spies and Ties during the Korean War! I really am hoping that in addition to Indy’s weekly reports that Anna, Astrid and Sparty make regular or even irregular appearances in the Korean War!! After six years of war with you all, I’ve started feeling like you are old friends! I really enjoy this series and will miss it AND you two very much!
@antoniofernandesmarchetti1097 21 күн бұрын
I thought the same. But i think Korea must had spionage too i mean, what War didn't have right?
@WorldWarTwo 21 күн бұрын
They will.
@angeloluna529 15 күн бұрын
Spying will always exist before, during and after wars, it happens during peace time too
@Brikitherik 22 күн бұрын
And by this Hydra was allowed to gain a foothold and we all know how that turned out...
@RenerDeCastro 22 күн бұрын
A beautiful parasite inside SHIELD...
@j3lny425 15 күн бұрын
See Indies April 1 (year ?) show spoof.
@alexwelts2553 8 күн бұрын
I don't know how that turned out, or maybe I do but don't know that is what. Where do I find out?
@Thewalrus0275 22 күн бұрын
My home town hosted Von Braun at the dedication ceremony to Robert Goddard's first liquid-fueled rocket launch. Needless to say, I get a nice chuckle out of the realization my middle-of-nowhere town hosting a nazi war criminal
@angeloluna529 15 күн бұрын
As long as they serve for the interests of the usa, their past is pretty much clean
@simonwaldock9689 22 күн бұрын
"The film, invented by your German scientists, was put into the camera invented by our German scientists, and put into a rocket invented by their German scientists" 'Mr. Jones' Ice Station Zebra.
@heralds 22 күн бұрын
Operation paperclip is basically the curb your enthusiasm theme playing constantly in American political policy
@whyherewhynow7418 22 күн бұрын
"Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down? That's not my department" says Wernher von Braun -Tom Lehrer
@WorldWarTwo 22 күн бұрын
Great line from that song, thanks for watching.
@Rerags_ 22 күн бұрын
it's kinda funny, i heard the first time about this operation just a few days ago in a x-files episode and now you make an amazing video about it, thx ^^ :)
@ForgottenArmy1944 22 күн бұрын
oh! which episode?
@Trinoya 22 күн бұрын
Fantastic video, been waiting for this one and can't wait for part 2.
@WorldWarTwo 22 күн бұрын
See you there!
@chrisvickers7928 22 күн бұрын
Another interesting OSS agent sent to Europe was former professional baseball player, lawyer, and polyglot Morris 'Moe' Berg. He was under orders to shoot Werner Heisenberg if he thought the Germans were close to making an a-bomb. He concluded they weren't and did not shoot Heisenberg.
@T_Mo271 8 күн бұрын
I imagine he suffered from great uncertainty over this assignment.
@chrisvickers7928 8 күн бұрын
@@T_Mo271 Yes, he was a baseball player, not a killer. I couldn't do that.
@ramonribascasasayas7877 21 күн бұрын
Now the war is ending, I do think that Anna could have quite some releases of 'On the homefront' to do'. The return to home of the soldiers, their families, how they cope with going back to usual life, PoWs, widows and orphans, survivors from camps, reconstruction, the feelings of the civil population... quite a lot to cover (and many others I am sure that have not even dawned on me)
@louisgiokas2206 22 күн бұрын
Actually, Robert Goddard is credited with building the first liquid fueled rocket.
@ohppig1 22 күн бұрын
I didn't know that Hugo Eckener was part of Operation Paperclip. The story I remember was that the President of Goodyear, a long-time business partner and personal friend, had used the transparent excuse of his help on airship design to get Eckener to the US to treat him for his post-war health problems. I can see why the Truman admin chose him to defend Paperclip, Eckener was still well-known and well-liked in the US and was contemptuous of the Nazis (though he was perfectly happy to take their money for his company). Just a comment for the algorithm
@justink1985 22 күн бұрын
I thought the whispering bit was great Anna, I like the humor😅
@WorldWarTwo 22 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Zebred2001 22 күн бұрын
I've read Annie Jacobsen's Operation Paperclip. Solid but very readable. Great book! I'm reading her book on DARPA - The Pentagon's Brain now.
@johanhoevink4050 21 күн бұрын
Great video! Lots of background information. It is good to know that not all Americans were pro inviting nazi scientist. And they had the freedom to speak out their mind. That's democracy. But a democracy also has to defend itself from outside agressors, I got the feeling that during the cold war American society and politics were so "afraid" of communist influence that the left side of the political spectrum was silenced. By your channel I got an interest in the difference in American politics before and after WW2. And that after WW2 and after president Roosevelt the Democratic presidents were a very different kind of Democratic.It's also good to mention that this reaction, is made by an European person. The last thing that I like to mention is the way World War Two Series is trying to be as much objective as can be. Great work! And a great source of information!
@rwarren58 22 күн бұрын
A cliffhanger from my two favorite correspondents! (Sorry to the handsome gentlemen) thanks for the episode. Were we able to infiltrate Japan as we did in Europe?
@nickdanger3802 22 күн бұрын
USSR launched the first artificial satellite, Sputnik, and the first man into space. Guess they did it with only Soviet brains.
@Sebastian_Brandstetter 21 күн бұрын
Turns out they didnt ;), well cover that in the episode after next, Osoaviachim!
@andromeda331 22 күн бұрын
I loved Anna whispering. That was great.
@IchBinJager 22 күн бұрын
Reminds me of the Loon missile they were going to use for Operation Downfall. Carbon copy of the V1, quite ironic.
@frandsenphilip1 21 күн бұрын
I hope Astrid and Anna can be incorporated somehow into the coverage of the Korean War! They add a special "behind the curtain" analysis.
@snapdragon6601 22 күн бұрын
Von Brauhn sure got a sweet deal.
@T_Mo271 8 күн бұрын
He also delivered what the USA wanted. Big rockets.
@catherineburton195 22 күн бұрын
You two are an amazing double act. Please carry on into the post war era!
@williamlloyd3769 21 күн бұрын
Missile Park, located next to Point Mugu Naval Air Station has a US Navy produced Loon, improved version of the V-1. Worth a drive on Pacific Coast Highway (PCH) in Ventura County in SoCal.
@dimasgirl2749 22 күн бұрын
"Like a phoenix burning bright/ In the skyyyyyyyyyy,/ I'll show there's another side to me,/ You can't denyyyyyyyy!/ I may not know what future holds,/ But hear me when I saaaaaaaay/ That my past does not define me,/ 'Cause my past is not todaaaaaaaay!"
@olliestudio45 22 күн бұрын
Given that the US also helped war criminal Klaus Barbie flee to Bolivia, it might be interesting to explore the extent of US sponsored 'rat lines' including legal, economic and political support provided by the US to these ex-regime figures either directly or through US allies / host countries. Did the US in fact perpetuate Third Reich assets and methods both within Germany and around the world? Sounds a bit mental but also kind of plausible in the context of the Cold War. Note / update - after a quick search I discovered a US government report on this topic that you can google titled: HITLER’S SHADOW Nazi War Criminals, U.S. Intelligence, and the Cold War By Richard Breitman and Norman J.W. Goda Published by the National Archives
@olliestudio45 22 күн бұрын
The US. Department of Justice has a Report for the Attorney General of the United States (October 1992) by the Office of Special Investigations, Criminal Division titled: "In the Matter of Josef Mengele"
@emmano6340 22 күн бұрын
@@olliestudio45 Mengele died in Brazil in the 70's iirc
@kenoliver8913 19 күн бұрын
Google "Reinhard Gehlen". He ran the Wiemar Republic (ie pre Nazi) intelligence service, the Nazi military intelligence service and the West German intelligence service. Seemed to be one of those guys who loved his work and did not much care who he worked for.
@naveenraj2008eee 20 күн бұрын
HI Astrid and Anna Interesting episode. By the way your cap is nice. Thanks for the episode.
@stevekaczynski3793 22 күн бұрын
Vasily Malyshkin, a former Red Army major-general, was captured by the Germans and joined Vlasov's Russian Liberation Army, in which he was also a major-general. He surrendered to the Americans in 1945 and told them what he knew of Red Army organisation, and the Americans were certainly receptive to his info. Not unlike their use of Nazi scientists and experts. SPOILER Nonetheless, the Americans handed him back to the Soviets in early 1946, and he was later executed in Moscow.
@nowthenzen 22 күн бұрын
If Knowledge is power, does that mean batteries are smart?
@EllieMaes-Grandad 22 күн бұрын
Tom Bower's books, "Blind Eye to Murder" [post-war cover-up of widespread, generalised atrocities in Europe, done mostly by Nazis] and another, "Paperclip Conspiracy", examined selection of those guilty of war crimes but not prosecuted, being deemed useful to the USA.
@gregcampwriter 22 күн бұрын
The reality is that if the United States hadn't made deals with these scientists, the Soviets would have captured them. Politics and war occasionally make the least bad option the one to pick.
@leonmat26 22 күн бұрын
We didn't have to make heroes of them either tho.
@shannonsullivan1968 22 күн бұрын
As a Baby Boomer who was led to believe “A Red under every bed.” And the “duck and cover” mentality keeping Nazi scientists out of the hands of the Communist government was nearly our patriotic duty. At the time they saw it as a means to an end with any consequences or repercussions someone else’s problem. Politics indeed does make strange bedfellows.
@FacloFormerFavorite 22 күн бұрын
The Soviets did use nazi scientist. But Operation Osoaviakhim is a lot harder to pronounce so no one cares.
@antoniofernandesmarchetti1097 21 күн бұрын
Why this look like something Danzo, from Naruto, would approve?
@captiannemo1587 19 күн бұрын
Most of them are still unknown. Out of over a thousand any given person might be lucky to name 1-4 people.
@DominicBHaven-qm6nx 21 күн бұрын
Amazing how they knew who these scienetist were and which ones they wanted to bring to the USA. The moral question took a backseat to making sure these scientist were not working for the Soviets. Were there any nuclear phycisist brought to the USA? The motivation might have been to keep them away from the Soviets. Looking forward to part 2. Great video. 😊
@willmills1388 22 күн бұрын
Thank you Ladies!!!
@WorldWarTwo 22 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@sgtmajvimy 21 күн бұрын
got my does of "dawlins'" . i feel better now :) ... joking aside, lovely job as always, informative and well delivered, ty :)
@blacksmith67 22 күн бұрын
You two make an awesome team presenting the spy side of the war. Bravo!
@davidtaylor5204 22 күн бұрын
Anna Deinhard fashionably rocks.
@WorldWarTwo 22 күн бұрын
Indeed she does, she's got a great eye for things and does a lot of the set dressing too!
@gregoryberrycone 22 күн бұрын
"a screaming comes across the sky. It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now"
@firstcynic92 22 күн бұрын
I hope you'll also have a chance to go over the US cover up of Japanese war crimes when something like Paperclip was done in Japan.
@nigeh5326 8 күн бұрын
Astrid and Anna always give us a well researched very well presented video. ‘Hello Darlings’ always makes me smile as do the occasions when Astrid makes comments and little jokes when Spartacus or Indy are presenting. Loving Indy’s Korean War series too. I look forward to future series on the wars and conflicts post WW2 such as the Malayan Emergency, the Vietnam War, the First Gulf War and others. Thanks to all of the team for many hours of interesting educational content. 👍
@FarenellPhoto 20 күн бұрын
Astrid's "Oh-kaaaaaaaaaaay" look to Ann after her whisper plug is adorable. LOL Please tell me that was improv'ed.
@justinkauffman731 22 күн бұрын
Awesome video. What A.I. did you use to have Christina Applegate and Joan Collins of the 90's to present it? They were awesome. Good work!
@mitchellsmith4690 22 күн бұрын
.????
@shaider1982 22 күн бұрын
🤣
@kevinobrien2311 22 күн бұрын
"Ach! Nazt, Schmatzie!" says Werhner Von Braun! (Tom Lehrer}
@sirhenrymorgan1187 22 күн бұрын
I know my question may come across as whataboutism (I'm of Korean descent), but: Will there be a similar video or post about the Japanese scientists granted immunity in exchange for their biological, chemical, and medical research? It is said that the US made use of Japan's chemical weapons research during the Korean War (which TimeGhost recently launched a series on!).
@WorldWarTwo 22 күн бұрын
There will be, but not before the war is over there too…
@sirhenrymorgan1187 22 күн бұрын
@@WorldWarTwoI figured, considering the channel is going in chronological order. I was just wondering if it was in the cards. Thanks for all that y'all do! Looking forward to more WW2, Korean War, and other TimeGhost projects!
@johnnoble01 21 күн бұрын
All those people losing their lives. What a betrayal.
@williamdonnelly224 17 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@shaider1982 22 күн бұрын
25:16 so later GY blimps had some Nazi connections?!
@annehersey9895 22 күн бұрын
Von Braun had limited choices of who to surrender to. NO ONE wanted to surrender to the Soviets and Braun didn’t think the British were a good idea since that’s where most of his rockets had landed! The French were out just because they were the French! Braun had also seen the ruins Europe was in that the US had escaped so the US it would be.
@bishop6218 22 күн бұрын
How did Von Braun break his arm btw ? Was it during his capture ? (Not asking out of compassion btw, it’s pure schadenfreude 😅)
@kenoliver8913 19 күн бұрын
Car accident from memory.
@chuckvt5196 22 күн бұрын
Fantastic episode and love the chapeaus! Thank you, darlings!
@WorldWarTwo 22 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@residentgeardo 20 күн бұрын
Wonderful episode and also wonderful outfits that could be straight out of an old James Bond movie. Thank you, ladies!
@matthewjay660 14 күн бұрын
Astrid and Anna, I never knew about Wagner's anti-ship weapon. Thank-you for teaching me something new today. 🇺🇸🤝🇩🇪
@eduardogutierrez4698 22 күн бұрын
I still remember watching the movie Rat Race back in 2006...there was a scene in which a family visits a museum they think is dedicated to Barbie the doll. Unfortunately the museum is run by neonazis and dedicated to Klaus Barbie, the Butcher of Lyon...it made laugh. At first I thought Klaus Barbie was fictional until I did some research and found out that he actually existed...To my surprise he was one of the many nazis who fled to South America and even lived in Peru (my country) for a few years. I still find it ironic that it was through a movie starring Rowan Atkinson and Cuba Gooding Jr that I learned of the existance of a Nazi who lived in my country....
@user-xb5bh9ig1v 22 күн бұрын
Yes, this was done after ending of WWII. Both sides were equally responsible.
@artkoenig9434 22 күн бұрын
Well done, ladies! Thank you!
@WorldWarTwo 22 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@penultimateh766 5 күн бұрын
I've never understood how the Nazis were able to employ slave labor to make sophisticated things like missiles and airplanes. Seems like they would run through all the skilled machinists and lab technicians in Europe pretty quickly if they barely fed them. Did they find a way to do precision operations using unskilled labor? Breaking the tasks down into smaller chunks, etc?
@hannahskipper2764 21 күн бұрын
The von Braun song was playing in my head while I watched this.
@alexamerling79 22 күн бұрын
As an American, I am still disturbed how we helped Nazi war criminals escape justice...
@Onthejazz247 20 күн бұрын
There are things more important than justice, and maintaining a strategic advantage in the next world war was one of them.
@MisterOcclusion 19 күн бұрын
Yes. Only nazis who were of no use were branded war criminals and faced justice. The whole thing reeks of hypocrisy, with Nuremberg being little more than a dog and pony show
@Jay-ho9io 17 күн бұрын
Whenever anybody answers you with the statement like the human that originally replied to you did... "There are things more important than justice." You can be absolutely certain of their hypocrisy and that that opinion of theirs would evaporate the minute the Justice being denied applied to them.
@browngreen933 20 күн бұрын
I was a kid during the Space Race and everyone knew and accepted that Von Braun was an ex-Nazi. But President Kennedy and Walt Disney said he was a good guy now and we all believed it. Going to the Moon was a national mania at the time and Von Braun was taking us there. He was like a rock star. No joke. It was also a cultural message to the American public that even a kid like me understood that (West) Germany was on our side now and that the Russians were the new bad guys. Helping that along was the fact that Von Braun was a handsome, photogenic Rocketman while the Russian premier Nikita Khruschev was ill-mannered, crude and thuggish with his finger on the H-Bomb trigger that was going to annihilate the world -- including us kids hiding under our desks in school! 😮
@rosstapson 18 күн бұрын
Anna and Astrid are utterly charming and funny, as always.
@sagrud 7 күн бұрын
I once was told that a far relative (like cousin of my grandfather) was paperclipped then as a member of the team in Peenemünde.
@infty1369 22 күн бұрын
yes, yes, and yes. Also yes. My headmaster was more focused on our performance of Faust rather than finding a replacement math teacher...
@maxsmodels 21 күн бұрын
I read the book ‘American Raiders’ about Watson‘s Whizzers and operation lusty ( Luftwaffe secret technologies. ). What I found interesting is that despite the poor condition of Germany after the war, quite a few of the German technicians decided to return to Germany after being in the United States for less than a year or so, and there were even one or two suicides by the Germans. It is a very complex issue and even after having read a 400 page book you are still left wondering…what if we had left them behind? The Russians by comparison got mostly the manufacturing people and not the original design engineers. The Russians never trusted them so despite having, for all practical purposes, abducted them, they really never got that much out of taking the German technicians. There was, however, one exception who was an expert at manufacturing rockets, although he could not design them, and he did help them with their rocket production..
@ethanemmerich9698 22 күн бұрын
Woooooooooooooo!
@janlindtner305 22 күн бұрын
👍👍👍
@WorldWarTwo 22 күн бұрын
✌✌✌
@markhodge7 22 күн бұрын
Gonna miss you ladies ♥ Unless of course that you cover the cold war. But you wouldn't take that on, would you?
@WorldWarTwo 22 күн бұрын
😉
@sidgarrett7247 21 күн бұрын
My commanding officer called the Cold War “a Hot Mess, while we were on the border holding the (Iron) curtain closed, watching the 5th Soviet Shock Army roll onto their side of the border with their brand new T-72s. Nervous times when you were but a speed bump to the Soviet Army.
@tuzonthume 21 күн бұрын
09:00 ? What of the Manhattan Project and associated development of the B29? Both underway at the end of the war in Europe and both would be proven as wonder weapons.
@Strydr8105 20 күн бұрын
That girl should be on the cover of Vogue Magazine!😊😊
@Rom3_29 22 күн бұрын
- Nice hats - Nazis? Never heard of them. - German scientists and citizens, 1946. There’s excellent newish book about - Operation Paperclip.
@JonathanWrightSA 21 күн бұрын
"Even Truman does not know". I totally do not see this turning into a shadowy practice by an unaccountable shadow state that will grow a tail of its own and cause all sorts of intrigue and problems concerning transparency of public power
@kaltaron1284 22 күн бұрын
Operation Paperclip is harmless compared to the USA trying to use Unit 731's "research" data.
@TheIfifi 22 күн бұрын
We use some research by mengele. It seems discarding the research is even more wasteful than using what came about in tragic ways to serve humanity.
@FortuneZer0 22 күн бұрын
In amount of lives saved Unit 731 by far was beneficial to humanity.
@kaltaron1284 22 күн бұрын
@@TheIfifi Can you point out anything specific that Mengele did that was actually useful?
@kaltaron1284 22 күн бұрын
@@FortuneZer0 AFAIK the only thing remotely useful was their research on hypothermia. I don't know the details.
@TheIfifi 22 күн бұрын
Yes. His research into genetics, his twin studies were very well documented. Horrible experiments but helped support thesis.
@shazammaster1 22 күн бұрын
FOMO on a national scale.
@jk65_jack32 19 күн бұрын
What does this channel have to say about Fu fighters and UFOs? The Nazis had more interesting projects like Hanabu and Die Glocke. During a discussion about Nazi research, Werner Von Braun pointed over to the UFO section of NASA's library and said "We had help from them".
@johndeboyace7943 22 күн бұрын
It’s easy to criticize something that happened nearly 80 years ago. Born during war and remember the Cold War, loss of China, purge of non-communists in Eastern Europe, collapse of French Indochina, Korean War, Berlin Wall, Cuban Missile Crisis, etc. Also, hardly any war criminals are actually executed in either the European or Pacific Theaters by the western Allies. Von Braun was all over the TV in the late 50’s and into the 60’s. The outrage was very muted and I don’t remember much controversy at least in 50’s and 60’s.
@martijn9568 22 күн бұрын
The fact that it’s from an era long past doesn’t mean that you can’t criticise it. But when criticising something from former times, we have to keep the norms and values and such from that time in mind. As was shown in the video, even back then there were a lot of critics of the program. That shouldn’t prevent you from looking critically at the program nowadays.
@johndeboyace7943 22 күн бұрын
You can criticize, but there was no time to come up with alternatives. Who were the critics? Couldn’t have been too many, this was a secret program. If there was mention in the media it was positive until maybe the 70’s. No one knew what would happen in the post war world. Remember Japan and West Germany were rehabilitated by the early 50’s.
@hilariousname6826 21 күн бұрын
@@johndeboyace7943 " Who were the critics? Couldn’t have been too many, this was a secret program. If there was mention in the media it was positive until maybe the 70’s." Did you actually watch the video?
@johndeboyace7943 21 күн бұрын
@@hilariousname6826 fait accompli before it was reported, there was no outcry by the general public. Einstein, Elinor, a few scientists and communist newspapers. If anything if they were against it, they would have accelerated rated the program. People today can’t understand the world 80 years ago, they didn’t care about hurting some group’s feelings. If someone or something was useful, use it, atom bombs or scientists. You can be outraged whether or not a relative may have been exploited by Von Braun and cronies. If you want to be outraged it would be the fact that so few war criminals were actually executed. The US was complicit in allowing many war criminals to escape punishment or serve short sentences, so what’s a few scientists that are useful.
@HaragothNAR 7 күн бұрын
Imagine how differently the cold war would have played out, and how different the world would be, if the US wouldn't have grabbed up scientists and left them to Russia. Definitely hard to go black and white with this one, super grey.
@handyadams3319 22 күн бұрын
I've always had a question. Why pick the brains of people that killed more building a weapon than using it? Never did sound smart to me.
@johnfleet235 20 күн бұрын
I think it was justified. We have forgotten just how messed up the geopolitical world was in 1945-1950. The US made the mistake of not doing much planning for the future after WWI, we needed to avoid making that mistake again.
@70galaxie 19 күн бұрын
so,you kids doan see anything sus in the huge cast,on his left arm,may or may not defeat an X-ray search???
@70galaxie 20 күн бұрын
Astrid has an impersonator beside her. Flattered?
@70galaxie 19 күн бұрын
combatants had no heart to continue,spys were pretty much"taken care of"&scientists were least likely to be in any way violent. "Many that are guilty liv &go unpunished. many that are innocent die &or are recipients of punishment.".G.Davis sr ,Q,galaxy5,theoldmaninthecave
@j3lny425 15 күн бұрын
If the Nazis found a cure for cancer in a concentration would it be used or destroyed after the war ? (unit 731 in China)
@michaelbishop1 21 күн бұрын
How many of Germany’s finest priests and politicians did Operation Paperclip bring to the USA?
@Ajgor_Wygoda 8 күн бұрын
Comment for algoritm : )
@merlinwizard1000 22 күн бұрын
4th, 11 July 2024
@IoannisC.Dalietos 8 күн бұрын
Business is business. Capitalism at its finest... Waiting for the "Osoaviakhim" also, to witness how the other side of the iron curtain put aside its ideological necessities one more time in order to gain knowledge and power.
@Paladin1873 22 күн бұрын
A distinction should be made between those who designed German weapons and those who built them with slave labor. If the former are to be blamed for the millions killed in WWII, then we must also include such men as John Browning, John Garand, Kelly Johnson, Georgy Shpagin, and Sergey Ilyushin. If we focus only on the means of production that involved slave labor, I would be hesitant to heavily implicate German scientists and engineers. They had little sway over such matters, and they could even argue that slaves fared better than those who went to the death houses. This was certainly the case with my cousin who built V1 components while her parents died at the hands of the Nazis. It is a bitter truth, but it is truth nonetheless.
@WorldWarTwo 22 күн бұрын
Have you heard of the Nuremberg trials? These scientists aided and abetted the following legally verified crimes: Crimes against the peace while starting a war that cost 70 million human lives, endless suffering, and socio/economic losses that have never been and never will be recovered. War Crimes to a degree and frequency never before or after seen in human history. Crimes Against Humanity in the worst series of genocides and democides ever recorded, when the Nazis murdered 17 million men, women and children.
@Paladin1873 22 күн бұрын
@@WorldWarTwo Then you might as well indict every German and Japanese citizen who served in the military or worked in the armaments industry. They share in this guilt, but at some point you have to stop and say enough is enough. I think we're arguing over where that line is drawn.
@WorldWarTwo 22 күн бұрын
As you’ll see in episode two, these distinctions were also made for the scientists…
@Paladin1873 21 күн бұрын
@@WorldWarTwo I'm looking forward to it. Thanks.
@c1ph3rpunk 22 күн бұрын
Ok doc Brown, are you a member of the nutsee party? “Nein, I removed zee lapel pin” Ok, good, were you a member of the party? “Nein, I never attended any parties, zey vould not allow us to expense zee alcohol” Ok, good, did you ever use forced labor? “Nein, vee always asked nicely to be forced”. Ok, good to go!
@Rom3_29 22 күн бұрын
Ja. Pfadfinder der Spielzeugraketen. Heheheh
@c1ph3rpunk 22 күн бұрын
@@balabanasireti hard time accepting that’s essentially what they did eh.
@jakevelasco4072 22 күн бұрын
Pretty much think it was immoral. Like they brought Group 935 scientists to built teleportation tech to reach the moon base. Instead they found out a little girl controlled all the zombies, and those zombies nearly killed Castro and JFK
@erikturnar6466 22 күн бұрын
Was that CoD: Black Ops? I remember the zombie mode in the game started with them.
@jakevelasco4072 22 күн бұрын
Well, lore wise we wouldn’t know that Group 935 scientist were taken up by Operation Paperclip until Black Ops 4, alongside their moon teleport experiments explaining why zombies are in America. It’s Black Ops 1 we’re zombies break out and nearly kill Castro and JFK (the game itself taking places years after WW2)
@roberthuff3122 12 күн бұрын
What is new here?
@ronsandefur9788 22 күн бұрын
Does the blonde chick say anything ???
@WorldWarTwo 22 күн бұрын
Is there something wrong with your speakers, or are you just trying your best to be misogynist?
@mitchellsmith4690 22 күн бұрын
She, in fact, does. If your mind wasnt in the wrong place would have noticed.
@tombogan03884 22 күн бұрын
Was anyone "outraged" about the Soviets doing the same thing ? Propaganda never dies.
@WorldWarTwo 22 күн бұрын
Well yes… wait for the episode on the Soviet program to do the same (coming in the next weeks) and you’ll see. But regardless of outrage or not about the Soviets, it’s quite disturbing to see someone think that it’s equally outrageous that the autocratic, freedom hating Soviets did the same as the democratic country that at its foundation is opposed to the horrors of autocracy.
@masteroutlaw100 22 күн бұрын
@@WorldWarTwo Hmm I'm seeing a lot of youtubers take this angle recently, the bigger ones anyway. Did your handlers giver you a new script or are you just nuking the US space programs well earned reputation of your own accord? Do tell.
@WorldWarTwo 22 күн бұрын
The most remarkable thing about the handled is how they assume that everyone else is also handled. Handled or not, it’s disconcerting to see the moral mental decline in what President Reagan quoted sermon to be a Shining City Upon a Hill. Unlike you, these “KZfaqrs” you speak of understood, like Reagan did, that holding oneself to a higher standard than the scum of the earth is what sets one apart from that scum. But hey, if you like wallowing in the same dirt as Communists, that’s your prerogative.
@masteroutlaw100 17 күн бұрын
@@WorldWarTwo Rocket science is now scum of the earth? Ok buddy.
@masteroutlaw100 17 күн бұрын
@@WorldWarTwo How much is amazon paying you?
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