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Жыл бұрын

Chris Gore, Alan Ng and Dante James from ‪@verbalriotshow‬ review “Oppenheimer,” now playing in theaters.
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@patrickdodson1713
@patrickdodson1713 11 ай бұрын
I have to admit, that while I was very much looking forward to this movie since the trailers appeared, the movie didn't blow me away. I love Christopher Nolan movies, most of them anyway. But I really wished it had been a more straightforward retelling of Oppenheimer's life rather than using different timelines that just ended up being confusing. You're so right that the middle part was the best, and the shockwave from the explosion was quite something. But I was very perplexed as the 3rd half begun as the pacing and tone were completely different, robbing it of the energy and celebration that came before it, and I kept wondering when the trial would end. I agree that the movie felt bloated, and in my opinion the trial could have been condensed without losing much and still give viewers the general gist.
@naminabantu
@naminabantu Жыл бұрын
I loved Oppenheimer! I think every scene was essential in the movie. I think the first third of the movie which focuses on his earlier life was superb and was absolutely needed to tell us who this man is and what he's brilliant at.
@nymphey
@nymphey Жыл бұрын
I agree with Chris, and the reason why the length is a problem is the content: it's just too superficial. They try to cram in a lot of stuff, yet the film does not manage to explore its big themes in a profound way. They waste too much time on the political intrigue between Oppenheimer and Strauss, which is meaningless compared to big ethical questions like the morale of building and dropping an atomic bomb. Or at least they could have executed this plot in a better way. The sideplot about Oppenheimer's lover vs wife does nothing to humanise Oppenheimer, since all the characters are more like cameos, the viewer does not bond with any of them. I wish they had shown us at least more of the technical part of building the bomb and the physics behind it.
@THEremiXFACTOR
@THEremiXFACTOR Жыл бұрын
I do agree that it would've been good to see a bit more discussion about the workings/science of the bomb. And I also agree Strauss could've been featured a little less.
@djstarsign
@djstarsign Жыл бұрын
I started rewatching Nolan’s “Insomnia” remake from 2002 and it’s remarkable how far he’s moved away from having us spend time with the characters to actually get invested in the story. With Oppenheimer, it felt like being on an elevator ride with a team of multiple people filling you in on what points to highlight in your presentation so you can quickly move to the next bullet point. With Insomnia, he was able to flesh out the story in a more meaningful way and with Oppenheimer, he eschewed it to create a piece that focused on the central character’s POV, while seeing so much great talent on screen being wasted. I also felt like the vast majority of the characters were treated like cameos. It reeked of privilege, like being at an amazing feast with so much delicious food, but instead of savoring the dishes, you eat bite size samples before moving on to the next dish and then leave the majority of it on the table to throw away. I’m not saying he has contempt for his audiences, but if he could have balanced his storytelling with the same amount of passion he has for IMAX film, this could have been a brilliant film.
@ProfoundLoreOfficial
@ProfoundLoreOfficial Жыл бұрын
I wish it was longer.
@RevanR
@RevanR Жыл бұрын
"That's what she said!" 😂😂😂
@ShadeDraws
@ShadeDraws Жыл бұрын
​@@RevanR69!
@Yousuckdeeznuts
@Yousuckdeeznuts Жыл бұрын
@@RevanR😂
@chiputiman
@chiputiman Жыл бұрын
Fr
@Mosa685
@Mosa685 Жыл бұрын
@@RevanRperfect….was just about to say this
@nrmora182
@nrmora182 Жыл бұрын
This was a spectacular film! Pacing was perfect and it was the quickest 3 hours I’ve spent in a movie in ages. The film was gripping, intense, and nerve racking with phenomenal performances. I welcome a film like this during this time of year as it’s a break from all the commercial diarrhea that we’ve been fed for the past two months. Also, I think audiences are pretty well adapted to longer running times for films and if they’re as well made and engaging as this one, what’s the problem?
@frankkay625
@frankkay625 Жыл бұрын
Commercial diarrhea, you mean like Barbie😆
@ianmcd66
@ianmcd66 Жыл бұрын
Old bladders?
@acechump3284
@acechump3284 Жыл бұрын
Disagree
@matane2465
@matane2465 Жыл бұрын
"Current Chris Nolan film is his best film yet and not only that it's somehow the bestest film ever"
@ADifferentVibe
@ADifferentVibe Жыл бұрын
I saw it in 70mm IMAX at downtown Hollywood. There were no issues with the film projection and is actually 3 hours even. It is a dense film but it felt well-paced for the story that it told. Is it perfect? No. But there are more justifications for 3 hours than not. To me, I think this movie came at a great time with all the fluff and failed blockbusters this summer. People are tired of bad, cop-out films and want substance. I do think Barbie will win out box offices first because of its shorter run time and PG-13 rating, but Oppenheimer will catch up down the line via word of mouth. I will say you have to watch it a second time to really appreciate the story. This is a film aficionado's dream. It's not for people who want disposable entertainment. I personally think there will be multiple Oscars nods for this one, especially with Nolan, Cillian, and Robert Downey Jr.
@aajiv1748
@aajiv1748 Жыл бұрын
Indeed the official running time is 3 hours . The 3 hours went by normally for me. More laser focused on Oppenheimer's life that I expected. Ok with me .
@Hunteriscoming
@Hunteriscoming Жыл бұрын
Oscars? Pffft!
@fishjones4618
@fishjones4618 Жыл бұрын
There was a time when movies were made for film aficionados AND had mass appeal. It wasn’t an either or choice. Films like The Godfather, Jaws, Star Wars, and Goodfellas were masterclasses on the language of cinema, but also had a broad appeal. I’m tired of this misconception and illusion of films either being made for snooty film snobs or the knuckle dragging masses.
@sadomars2446
@sadomars2446 Жыл бұрын
Too long
@LucasHalastra
@LucasHalastra Жыл бұрын
I don't think the cast is diverse enough to be even qualified to oscars now ;) No gender fluid people! Outrageous! ;)
@acharyapradip1149
@acharyapradip1149 Жыл бұрын
Audiences : Great Visuals, Gripping Story, Best Score, Best Acting, Best Cinematography !!! Critics : It's too long...
@maizie9454
@maizie9454 Жыл бұрын
It's none of those things
@wollinger
@wollinger Жыл бұрын
@@maizie9454it is... long
@kdkseven
@kdkseven Жыл бұрын
​@wollinger it's long sure, but not *too* long. At least for me and the people i know who've seen it.
@kdkseven
@kdkseven Жыл бұрын
​@@maizie9454it's all of those things.
@beowulf1005
@beowulf1005 Жыл бұрын
The difference between a director who is just a hot name in Hollywood versus a talented FILMMAKER such as Nolan is cosmically vast.
@matane2465
@matane2465 Жыл бұрын
No, the difference between a talented filmmaker and an over indulgent, pretentious hack like Nolan is a talented filmmaker actually knows how to tell a good story in a tight runtime when they need to and make cuts when they need to and still be able to have the story work, something Nolan is clearly incapable of doing since all of his movies are 2 to 3 hours long. And he gets to keep getting away with it because people gobble up his films and mindlessly praise him because "Current Chris Nolan film is his best film yet, and not only that but it's the bestest film ever made."
@wesrm1
@wesrm1 Жыл бұрын
@@matane2465I’m not a fan of the sterile, hopeless feeling I get from his movies. It’s not profound like people want to think it is. I think I will like this one though. Can we just start having movies with intermissions again? It’s not too much to ask.
@BrendanPoole
@BrendanPoole Жыл бұрын
​@@matane2465 Partly agree. It did feel more like a high budget documentary instead than a movie and, at times, felt like the dialogue was over engineered to get facts across. It seems unnecessary with Cillian Murphey being able to convey most of it without the details.
@Darkstar_Dayne
@Darkstar_Dayne Жыл бұрын
​@@matane2465I bet you believe Rian Johnson is the greatest artist of all times
@beowulf1005
@beowulf1005 Жыл бұрын
@@matane2465 while I don't disagree with some of your criticism of Nolan, I was trying to draw the distinction between an actual film, and "content."
@armandolimon7465
@armandolimon7465 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to add Oppenheimer is very heavy revisionist of his past. He had no issues building and when the first bomb was detonated. If anything, he attitudes changed more for public opinion and appeasement rather than anything based on real moral belief. I don't believe he regretted what he did. The Joint Chief of Staff knew how horrible the casualty lists were in the Philippines, Iwo Jima and Okinawa. Japan had millions of troops stationed overseas. Hiroshima was the home of an army HQ, division and one of the most important navy fleet ports. I mean, at least 20,000 soldiers and sailors died when the bomb was dropped. It was not a secret.
@greggstrasser5791
@greggstrasser5791 Жыл бұрын
It’s just one more Hollywood pack of lies.
@Darkstar_Dayne
@Darkstar_Dayne Жыл бұрын
It's based on a book, Nolan didn't pull the script outta his ass like some marvel director
@sarkastodon30
@sarkastodon30 Жыл бұрын
I think it did reasonably ok showing you could make up your mind what he thought. The part with the speech grappled with his conflict. Even he said in the movie as the bombs were being taken that they had no control how they were to be used. I mean in reality, even the world's biggest narcissist would still have moments of sheer guilt for being responsible for so many deaths.
@armandolimon7465
@armandolimon7465 Жыл бұрын
@@sarkastodon30 Cool...and doesn't change the fact hindsight was used. I doubt there was any real conflict. This not how people think and act in the moment. Nobody does this. This is done only in plays and movies. The Joint Chiefs of Staff with all the admirals and generals seeing the casualty lists needed an end of the war. Japan wasn't even close to surrendering, if you read the history about Japan in the war, until the bombs were dropped. His guilt is hindsight, and doesn't realize the brutality of war. The bombs being dropped kept more Japanese alive. The military government was willing to sacrifice the civilian population until it realize it was foolish with nuclear bombs.
@armandolimon7465
@armandolimon7465 Жыл бұрын
@@Darkstar_Dayne Cool...and the director can use real historical fact too. The director knows this fact. Nonsense is still nonsense.
@armandolimon7465
@armandolimon7465 Жыл бұрын
The reason Kyoto did not get the bomb dropped on was because of Secretary of War Henry Stimson constantly rejecting. It is because of Stimson, not some dumb movie retelling.
@yohansetiawan1323
@yohansetiawan1323 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't too long. There was a lot to tell and that's why it was a 3 hour movie. Some reviewers also said that the movie loses its steam after the atomic bomb test took place it was actually a movie about Oppenheimer (the making of the A bomb was part of the movie, but the main story is his life including his downfall when he was accused of communism). The movie tied itself together by the quote given by Einstein at the end and that made Oppenheimer's life tragic even though he finnaly got the accolade near the end of his life
@whatevergoesforme5129
@whatevergoesforme5129 Жыл бұрын
A lot of movies have messages to tell us, even comedies, no matter how shallow the message is. People think only the serious ones have messages to tell us. It is called the theme of the story. In the past Greek comedies were used for social commentaries in satire form.
@jamespetkwitz8737
@jamespetkwitz8737 Жыл бұрын
the main problem I had with a large section of the film is how reductive it is showing the justification to use the bomb. It uses a very modern and revisionist history of Japan during WWII, and I think it oversimplifies our decision. Which is really a byproduct of how the Countries aligned after the War. Japan aligned with the US and China aligned communist. and as such Japan quickly became an ally in the cold war. And most of the realities of Japan, the atrocities they committed, and what an actual land invasion would have actually meant. even in later interviews Oppenheim was way more nuanced than this movie would have you think in regards to if the bomb was necessary.
@bumponalog5001
@bumponalog5001 Жыл бұрын
My exact issue as well. Hollywood revisionist history when it comes to the actual pros and cons to the bomb drop, and clowning on McCarthy a few times when history has proven not only was he right, but he underestimated how many Communists there actually were.
@winterrising8738
@winterrising8738 Жыл бұрын
japan didnt become an ally, it became a vassal state
@SewTubular
@SewTubular Жыл бұрын
When Nolan tested a 2 hour version the courtroom drama scenes were not boring enough and audience members were waking up before the 2 hour edit was finished. So to maximize the critical boring mass a 3 hour 15 minute cut allowed for almost 2 hours of sleep inducing courtroom drama, and most of the audience was unconscious during the courtroom scenes.
@greggstrasser5791
@greggstrasser5791 Жыл бұрын
Wow. I’m going to give them money tonight!
@tonymaiorano2749
@tonymaiorano2749 9 ай бұрын
I needed the nap.
@chanceotter8121
@chanceotter8121 Жыл бұрын
I saw this in IMAX on opening Friday, 3pm showing, sold out house. The crowd applauded at the end (as did I) and sat still for a few moments to take it in. I believe it is a masterpiece, and on my short list (In the Mood for Love, Zodiac, Tree of Life) for best film of the last 23 years. The only theatre experiences I can compare it to, where the audience was collectively overwhelmed, were my original viewing of Apocalypse Now in 1980, and a 70mm showing of restored Lawrence of Arabia in 1988. Maybe a handful of others but that is it. I am hoping two things: This film becomes a blockbuster to show people are ready for challenging artistic films like the old days of 2001 and The Godfather when art and commerce mingled; and that filmmakers working today are ready to step up to the challenge.
@CraigJS91
@CraigJS91 Жыл бұрын
I really don't understand Gore's stance on long movies. He says you have to earn it, which I totally agree with. He says epics like Lord of the Rings earn it, which I also agree with. But then he takes issue with Oppenheimer because it's 3 hours. Does he not think it earned it? What fills the criteria of "earning it" if not this amazing film? I feel that he incorrectly assumed the climax of the film would be the actual use of the bomb, but there's so much more to the story than that. Remember the movie is called Oppenheimer not Atomic Bomb, It's about the guy who lead the development of the A bomb, not the A bomb itself. I feel like without that last hour the movie would have been thematically hollow. The end really nails the "why" of the movie to me.
@FreeAssange556
@FreeAssange556 Жыл бұрын
I dont think it earned it.
@CraigJS91
@CraigJS91 Жыл бұрын
@@connorcoco2152 Right, for a 3 hour movie it felt incredibly fast paced. I think they did this in order to keep the runtime down meaning it probably could have been significantly longer and still not been "too long" if they just slowed the pace down a bit.
@matane2465
@matane2465 Жыл бұрын
What's with that 1917 movie? It's called 1917, I thought it would be about the whole year of 1917 not just that one event. Because the title of a movie always tells you what the movie is about.
@FreeAssange556
@FreeAssange556 Жыл бұрын
@@connorcoco2152 A shit ton of the dialogue around the hearings in the last hour of the movie. They could've reduced that by 90% and still conveyed the same information. The movie couldve done with a lot tighter editing across the board in my opinion.
@CraigJS91
@CraigJS91 Жыл бұрын
@@matane2465 it's a little different when it's a biopic. My point was that the title is literally the name of the man the movie was about, not saying that titles always perfectly describe what the movie is about. Does anyone actually think about what they read nowadays or is everything just read in bad faith in hopes of attacking it?
@BudFuddlacker
@BudFuddlacker Жыл бұрын
OMG!! The best part was when Oppenheimer jumped that motorcycle off the cliff!!!!
@KungFuHotdog
@KungFuHotdog Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I am tapping out of Nolan's latest efforts. Oppenheimer needlessly repeats narrative beats we already know and God, we needed an interval. That's why films of the 80s/90s had that sweet spot of 90 mins or just above.
@asanitheafrofuturist
@asanitheafrofuturist Жыл бұрын
Honestly I think the 2010s may be the last decent decade of cinema
@FreeAssange556
@FreeAssange556 Жыл бұрын
While there were scenes in the first half of the movie which I found very good, post the bomb test the movie went downhill for me. Maybe I missed something others saw, but I just didn't care enough about the character of Oppenheimer and the attempts to discredit him to be interested in his travails. He didnt really question the morality of making the bomb until after they were dropped on Japan and I thought he was kind of an arsehole, not to mention sociopath, right? I mean he did try to murder one of his University lecturers. I guess, naively, I thought the movie would be more conceptually interesting, being a Nolan fan. Instead what we got was Nolans take on the biopic. The film very much centred on the character of Oppenheimer (the clue was in the title right?) and it didn't work for me. Because of this I also found it way too long. I found myself wishing Nolan had hired Scorcese's editor as I think it wouldve benefitted from some snappy edits to tell the story in a more concise and entertaining way. Definitely my least favourite Nolan film.
@nymphey
@nymphey Жыл бұрын
Me either, I don't get why many obviously didn't mind the time-consuming part about Oppenheimer's interrogation. 1) It didn't reveal anything new to me about his character that couldn't have been shown better in a different scene. 2) I just didn't get the stakes, Oppenheimer barely interacted with Strauss in the movie, so why is it such a big deal that they don't like each other anymore? 3) And even if Strauss discredits Oppenheimer and withdraws his license - this man has already done his work, it's not like Oppenheimer needs this license right now... 4) Fck, even if he did leak the nuclear plans to the Soviets, then that's a good thing because it ensures a balance of power! He just followed Einstein's advice! Probably just like the actual spy, who's perspective was not highlighted at all in this movie! 5) Oppenheimer has far more serious internal conflicts and questions to answer than whether he was a good anti-communist American. That's literally the least thing the world cares about at this point. 6) After Oppenheimer won that "lawsuit", the film didn't show us any meaningful consequence. Like how did this event in his life exactly affect the future of the world. Do we see him differently today only because he never "cheated" on the USA? What if no one ever leaked the plans, would US leaders have obliterated even more cities, if they had no competitors? ... So many questions not really explored by the film.
@FreeAssange556
@FreeAssange556 Жыл бұрын
@@nymphey Yeah its like "Why should I care about this?" Nolan makes the assumption that we are all invested in Oppenheimer as a character by this point, when I didnt particularly care about him. If there had been a more convincing character arc I think I wouldve cared more, but I just didn't buy Murphy's performance in the later stages of the film. And there was so much repetitive dialogue etc like you say Did it need to be in the movie? Apart from your 4th point I agree with all of your points. Although it does make some sense to share this technology with everyone, in theory, I think the more countries that have become armed with nukes the less safe the world has become.
@Tat2dDude67
@Tat2dDude67 Жыл бұрын
Now that I know how to describe it, the lack of ADR prevents me from watching it in the theater. My wife and I will need to wait for it to come to VOD and watch it with the subtitles turned on. Thanks for the review Chris. Cheers.
@LucasHalastra
@LucasHalastra Жыл бұрын
I loved every minute of it.
@adl6907
@adl6907 Жыл бұрын
Because you felt asleep
@LucasHalastra
@LucasHalastra Жыл бұрын
@@adl6907 in a contrary, movie is intense and people acting on another level. Picture with a story to tell. Refreshing after all those superhero crap flicks.
@ScruffyWarlord
@ScruffyWarlord Жыл бұрын
@@adl6907spoken like a true Marvel super hero movie fan.
@joex8au04
@joex8au04 Жыл бұрын
include the nude scene?
@samsaad5431
@samsaad5431 Жыл бұрын
I have to disagree, Chris. I went in wondering how Nolan was gonna pull off this story for 3 hours or even made it interesting enough. Loved every minute of it on IMAX. Its our generation's Lawrence of Arabia. The personal story and trials bookends the epic middle act. This is a story as a science nerd i know very well and still i was hooked. and having all those guys on screen together - Fermi, Bohr, Einstein, Oppie, Heisenberg, Feynman together made me giddy the way i felt when the Avengers assembled. Dude, the theatre I was in just now in Kuala Lumpur was packed for a 5pm showing.
@vammukittu
@vammukittu Жыл бұрын
Bro, Lawrence of Arabia had probably half the amount of static shots, the horse raid scene itself requires so much more effort than anything in here. Incomparable
@samsaad5431
@samsaad5431 Жыл бұрын
@@vammukittu u are probably right but oppenheimer had different kinda shots and sounds filming on imax. irrespective, its the story as a whole (+ acting, pacing, script) for me in every movie that makes what it was. I must say one of my distractions wrt lawrence was o'toole was not great imo. maybe its too theatrical acting. Omar Shariff was the best performance. But we digress. 😊
@wesrm1
@wesrm1 Жыл бұрын
Lawrence of Arabia has an intermission.
@David-xn3kd
@David-xn3kd Жыл бұрын
The problem with film critics is they watch too many movies. Most critiques I have seen from the film critic contingent is that it’s too long. Commentary from the fans is that it’s almost not long enough.
@myytchanneldinakoha8498
@myytchanneldinakoha8498 Жыл бұрын
Fans want more? Surprise.
@christopherkhan3032
@christopherkhan3032 Жыл бұрын
I strongly agree with this. Anything in excess is often a bad thing... especially with media consumption.
@djstarsign
@djstarsign Жыл бұрын
Being a critic is about being objective about what works and what doesn’t. The run time wasn’t the problem, it’s what he chose to do with it. And it felt overindulgent. Nolan chose mood and tone over story, which I applaud. But the film could have been a half hour shorter and wouldn’t have lost any of its impact.
@christopherkhan3032
@christopherkhan3032 Жыл бұрын
@@djstarsign Agree to disagree then. No problem.
@fuferito
@fuferito Жыл бұрын
_Oppenheimer_ was sold out last night, so I saw _Mission Impossible_ instead. Awesome movie.
@mykal.7424
@mykal.7424 Жыл бұрын
MI7 Best action film of the yr by far
@wesrm1
@wesrm1 Жыл бұрын
MI didn’t get long enough in the IMAX presentation. They should have released it one week earlier.
@guygardner8308
@guygardner8308 Жыл бұрын
Ok, so they need to reshow The Dark Knight in Imax. It would blow away anything currently being showin in cinemas. I would for sure see it again.
@cbrreezzyy69
@cbrreezzyy69 Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to see it 3 more times in the theaters
@thomaspayne7617
@thomaspayne7617 Жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that if they didn’t use the bomb, there would have been a lot more casualties from soldiers and civilians due to invasion of Japan. The bomb saved lives.
@LycanVisuals
@LycanVisuals Жыл бұрын
Watched this after seeing Barbie. Cillian Murphy, Emily Blunt, and Robert Downey Jr should all get nominations. Rami Malek shines in the third act. This is the most dialogue dense of Nolans films so some people might be turned off by it, that and the run time. My state happens to have a 1570 IMAX Auditorium so im seeing it again Wednesday.
@joelanthonyalvarado6947
@joelanthonyalvarado6947 Жыл бұрын
Yes it did!!!
@frankkay625
@frankkay625 Жыл бұрын
Newsflash….epics are usually long.
@shaneday2255
@shaneday2255 Жыл бұрын
I saw it in Manchester UK and there was indeed "Hair in the gate" and it was glorious! It was real!
@SnakeNel
@SnakeNel Жыл бұрын
Strongly disagree with Chris' opinion that it should have opened in November. But I'm old school. It didn't hurt UNFORGIVEN, THELMA AND LOUISE, THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS, FORREST GUMP, PULP FICTION, etc., etc. I think there is a huge audience that is hungry for more substantial movies during the summer. This was confirmed by the incredible weekend box office for OPPENHEIMER.
@nameless-user
@nameless-user Жыл бұрын
I’d argue the film is too _short._ The pacing is perfectly handled, but it _is_ breakneck, and I personally can’t shake the feeling there could be more story worth telling that was trimmed or omitted. They were absolutely pushing up against the physical limits of the IMAX format here; the film is so physically large they had to extend the platters used to hold the film in the projection booth to within a few millimetres of the carriage assembly. They literally could not make this film longer, or else they’d have to overhaul every projector booth on the planet.
@babychuma1
@babychuma1 Жыл бұрын
SOF is a great example of why you don't have to make movies in Hollywood with big names anymore.
@toromcjohnson4069
@toromcjohnson4069 Жыл бұрын
SOF is painfully mid
@448demystify
@448demystify Жыл бұрын
Film projection issue happened to me yesterday also. Fixed it in 30seconds thank God but yeah, screen went blank and silent.
@nelsonhamilton8262
@nelsonhamilton8262 Жыл бұрын
Grade A cinemascore on both this and Barbie with both films lifting each other up well beyond their projections possibly leading to the second or third biggest domestic box office weekend of all times as great WOM grows for both. Now mix that in with no real serious competition for the rest of the summer and it’s absolutely wild Chris thinking that Oppenheimer should’ve released at a different time (or isn’t commercially viable at 3 hours when we just had avatar 2 make 2.3 billion at 3+ hours). I’d contend that without Barbenheimer I think this thing opens way lower in the fall and the fall is honestly even busier atm. You want Oppenheimer competing imax wise with Dune part 2? P.S. Lot of pink shirts at my Oppenheimer premiere on Thursday.
@googleislame
@googleislame Жыл бұрын
I was completely uninterested in the Strauss confirmation story line. And I was mildly uninterested in the story line involving Oppenheimer trying to get his security clearance back. I wish the entire movie was just about the atom bomb development.
@cbrreezzyy69
@cbrreezzyy69 Жыл бұрын
You can’t tell the story of Oppenheimer without those elements
@FreeAssange556
@FreeAssange556 Жыл бұрын
I 100% agree. I didn't care about those storylines either. Overall I was bored shitless by this movie, and Im a big Nolan fan.
@googleislame
@googleislame Жыл бұрын
@@cbrreezzyy69 Sure you can. I better filmmaker than Nolan would have done so easily.
@googleislame
@googleislame Жыл бұрын
@@connorcoco2152 Right. The movie was also not called Strauss.
@cbrreezzyy69
@cbrreezzyy69 Жыл бұрын
@@googleislame I see you don’t know movie structure. Also, lol Nolan is one of the best filmmakers alive. You have no idea what you’re talking about. Go see something that’ll hold your tik tok brain.
@badandy9716
@badandy9716 Жыл бұрын
This movie reminded me of Titantic where about an hour in and I'm screaming, "Just sink the effing boat for Christ's sakes!!!"
@TheManoDestra
@TheManoDestra Жыл бұрын
Could have been another hour longer. TBF, give it an intermission. But honestly, the 3 hour run didn’t really bother me. Also, I’m hearing reports of lots of issues with 70MM film, since actual film projection is a dying skill. Also, something that I think Chris misses is that people are very willing to participate in longer form content ( podcasts are an example, Joe Rogan’s can run for hours) The key is that the content must not be a fluff piece, or basic summer “blockbuster” Oppenheimer is an experience for sure, one that is well worth it
@matane2465
@matane2465 Жыл бұрын
People don't sit and listen to a podcast with their full attention for hours at a time. You can listen to a podcast while doing other things. It's not the same thing as sitting in a theater where you can't leave or do something else during that time.
@TheManoDestra
@TheManoDestra Жыл бұрын
@@matane2465I know plenty of folks that watch these things. Generally, a lot of people have to do those things WHILE doing other things, because it’s efficient, and also because generally is visually unappealing. Ya ever heard about a gamer doing a marathon session? That will easily go for 6-12 hours, easy. The idea that people don’t have the attention span to engage with long term media is a red herring. Granted younger people have had their brains melted by TikTok, but they’re also capable of engaging with quality long term content. The key is, it has to be worth it. Oppenheimer is worth it. The movie would have been worse it made shorter, by far. Maybe trim a few sections in the first part out, but at no point did it feel long, even though it was 3 hours long.
@zfesilva4605
@zfesilva4605 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the extended director's cut.
@Mattblaze1477
@Mattblaze1477 Жыл бұрын
If a movie is great I dont care if its 4 hours long. I have no problem watching 3+ hour long movies in 1 sitting like Once Upon a Time in America, Magnolia, The Irishman, Das Boot, Godfather 2, Casino.......And Im sure I will be glued to my seat watching Oppenheimer as well. Actually I want more 3 hour long epics.
@nicklang6798
@nicklang6798 Жыл бұрын
My Dad wants to see this in IMax but when I told him how long it is, he said, "Um, maybe later" 🤣At least our theater has reclinder seats
@AlexandriPatris
@AlexandriPatris Жыл бұрын
What surprised me most was finding out that Gary Oldman played Truman
@nomi4781
@nomi4781 Жыл бұрын
I am in the UK in the NorthWest trying to get tickets for IMAX 70mm and the closest cinema to me is in Manchester and the earliest available tickets I can find is for August the 9th. There are other showings in 2D but from what I have heard this has to be seen in IMAX 70mm. Im probably goona watch the new Turtles film before I get to see Oppenhiemer.
@davidsummer8631
@davidsummer8631 Жыл бұрын
I saw it yesterday and tomorrow I will be reading to understand more about who is who and what is what and in a few weeks time I will go and see the film again
@ericsred5440
@ericsred5440 11 ай бұрын
Gore nailed it. I saw Oppenheimer and felt the same way he did. It’s an 1 hour and 30 minute good film within a 3 hour and 15 minute bad film.
@tonyiannuzzi3425
@tonyiannuzzi3425 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Again this opener needs to be a short somewhere guys! " A 'hair' in the gate-I am old so I know what Chris is talking about;but it has been so long that I ever thought about that it is not a thing for like 10-15 years???
@NmDPlm31
@NmDPlm31 Жыл бұрын
Actually glad Nolan doesn’t cut corners to make a more commercial film. He has a vision and he sticks to it. 3 hours? That’s nothing if the movie is good. The idea that 3 hours turns people off I don’t think carries the weight it did back in the day. I’m stoked (seeing it in 70 mm tomorrow).
@ADifferentVibe
@ADifferentVibe Жыл бұрын
If 3 hours turns people off, why don't we hear those same runtime complaints for RRR, Lord of the Rings or Avengers Endgame? To me, what they're actually saying is 3 hour is only for action adventures, but drama is unacceptable. The complainers are really hypocrites who are biased towards commercial driven films. I have no problem skipping a badly or mediocre done 3 hour film (think Hobbit trilogy), but if it's good, the run time doesn't matter.
@djstarsign
@djstarsign Жыл бұрын
@@ADifferentVibe A great movie feels like it could have been longer and you would have loved every extra second on screen. A bad movie makes you wonder why the movie was so long. So runtime means absolutely nothing if the film doesn't deliver the goods. Just because it's a 3 hour movie doesn't mean it's going to be better. And a brilliant movie will pack so much into a shorter run time that feels rewarding in spite of its length.
@swaroopboyina4236
@swaroopboyina4236 Жыл бұрын
​@@ADifferentVibeRRR is a horseshit film .. don't mention it along with LOTR
@matane2465
@matane2465 Жыл бұрын
You can still have a "vision" and tell it in 90 minutes.
@swaroopboyina4236
@swaroopboyina4236 Жыл бұрын
@@matane2465 I don't think it's possible for a biopic to tell in 90 mins ...you can tell about an event definitely but not a biopic
@ReverendDrDeath
@ReverendDrDeath Жыл бұрын
I heard a shortened version of this critique on FNT and watched the movie after and I have to say I don't agree. I was expecting to just grin and bear the first hour but the way that Nolan works with the time cuts, the surreal representation of the atom theory in Oppenheimer's mind, and the historical context all made for an interesting first third. The final third is where the real impact of the movie is and has a sobering critique of the people who got the keys to our mutual destruction. My wife even loved the movie and she is definitely not the target for this film.
@belisariussmith9095
@belisariussmith9095 Жыл бұрын
My problem with Matt Damon is that seeing him immediately takes me out of the movie, it feels like I'm watching a parody or comedy. I have no clue why this is the case since I couldn't name a single other movie hes in to save my life.
@tucobenedicto1780
@tucobenedicto1780 Жыл бұрын
After seeing all his wokeness, a lot of people don't see him the same way anymore.
@joex8au04
@joex8au04 Жыл бұрын
@@tucobenedicto1780 is he woke? didn't know that.
@matane2465
@matane2465 Жыл бұрын
He was in Interstellar another Nolamn movie because he loves using the same actors over and over and over and over and over and over again.
@christopherfanelli8821
@christopherfanelli8821 Жыл бұрын
@@tucobenedicto1780What wokeness atrocity did Matt Damon commit?
@greggstrasser5791
@greggstrasser5791 Жыл бұрын
@@christopherfanelli8821 I think for one, he’s letting Angelina Jolie raise their son as a girl.
@rafael82x
@rafael82x Жыл бұрын
It’s a magnificent film Bravo 👏 👏👏👏👏👏 Amazing cast of actors
@KhonsurasBalancedWaytoWellness
@KhonsurasBalancedWaytoWellness Жыл бұрын
Loved it. Loved the Length.
@kevinhodder8465
@kevinhodder8465 Жыл бұрын
"I won't talk spoilers". Then proceeds to describe every act in laborious detail.
@droidx1191
@droidx1191 Жыл бұрын
I watched it in IMAX 70mm Film; only issues were some dust occasionally, and a few vertical lines, along with projector noise during the few quiet parts of the movie.
@WeezaY5000
@WeezaY5000 Жыл бұрын
Do you think the IMAX 70mm was worth it? I have to essentially take a road trip to get to a theater playing it, but as a guy wo has basically given up on theaters, but this seems like a special circumstance.
@droidx1191
@droidx1191 Жыл бұрын
@@WeezaY5000 It was worth it to me. 150 mile road trip.
@drgordo112
@drgordo112 Жыл бұрын
The teacher in me wants to see a Director’s 4-he cut. You better Oppen believe it!
@kdkseven
@kdkseven Жыл бұрын
I didn't feel that it was too long, and neither did my girlfriend. The pacing was near flawless, and the narrative structure gripping and engrossing.
@561jeffkelly
@561jeffkelly Жыл бұрын
Excellent Vlog Have not seen the movie yet. There is a Movie from 1988 called Fatman and Little Boy or The Shadow Makers depending on we’re your from in the world. I loved it stars Paul Newman and I just hope they have not just made a modern day remake of it. From the trailers I have watched there is so much similarities to the 88 movie. Yes they are going on historical facts so there is going to be similarities. Excellent work keep it up 👍👍👍
@christopherkhan3032
@christopherkhan3032 Жыл бұрын
Strongly disagree with recent criticism of movie length on yhis channel as of late. Films need to earn the right to be as long as some are... but that doesnt always mean it needs to be action heavy or a part of some trilogy to earn it. If there is something specific being worked towards and it takes X amount of time to show it, I am perfectly okay with that.
@wesrm1
@wesrm1 Жыл бұрын
I have a simple request because I’m a simple man trying to make my way in the universe. Can we make intermissions great again?! Please?! I don’t want to sit there for 3 hours or even 2 1/2. I’ve no problem if I can have a break.
@quietspark8703
@quietspark8703 Жыл бұрын
Loved every minute of it and it was clearly paced in a very specific way in relation to the Fission and/or Fusion process itself.
@danielh1771
@danielh1771 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was too short.
@liamh9814
@liamh9814 Жыл бұрын
I had no problem with its length. It was Oppenheimer’s story, not the story of the bomb.
@greggstrasser5791
@greggstrasser5791 Жыл бұрын
I used to be in love with Hollywood. I don’t know what I was thinking. If they would have not been Nazis about the mask thing, that would have earned my undying support. My dead friend was a Union projectionist. I have no feelings for theaters or Hollywood anymore.
@ShadeDraws
@ShadeDraws Жыл бұрын
Same. It's a repulsive industry.
@googleislame
@googleislame Жыл бұрын
I work as a background actor and I lost a lot of work in 2021 because of vax mandates. So I am with you.
@christopherfanelli8821
@christopherfanelli8821 Жыл бұрын
Yes concern for everyone’s safety is the very definition of fascism. Really it is. I’m not being sarcastic at all. 😂😂😂😂😂
@greggstrasser5791
@greggstrasser5791 Жыл бұрын
@@christopherfanelli8821 A Fascist government wouldn’t have done that to it’s people. Stop talking in emojis. It makes you look like a 10 year old girl. I’m not being sarcastic at all, son.
@ShadeDraws
@ShadeDraws Жыл бұрын
​@@christopherfanelli8821leftists are exceptionally gullible.
@stevanpopovic2765
@stevanpopovic2765 Жыл бұрын
Why can't he release a longer version on demand? His longer films have pacing issues.
@markiangooley
@markiangooley Жыл бұрын
Some old movie palaces were almost the only air-conditioned places in their towns, for years! Three hours on a hot day, before most residences had cooling: very welcome. Williamsburg, Virginia had, maybe still has one that used to be chilled using ammonia as a refrigerant. That worked very well unless there was a leak!
@TheAlexZorba
@TheAlexZorba Жыл бұрын
Chris you just reminded me of Amadeus. Are you saying Oppenheimer has too many notes?
@fuferito
@fuferito Жыл бұрын
"There it is..."
@jobsmine
@jobsmine Жыл бұрын
Love all of your shirts. Especially the batman logo.
@ShardsOfNarsil
@ShardsOfNarsil Жыл бұрын
I loved it!
@jasoncotoia27
@jasoncotoia27 Жыл бұрын
Only Christopher Nolan could make this film as solid as it was. Brilliant acting. Great editing.
@apocalypsetedium
@apocalypsetedium Жыл бұрын
Oppenheimer sounds like the best Star Trek to come out in years.
@Chris-by1su
@Chris-by1su Жыл бұрын
I'm with you on the run time, although that might change on the rewatch. The first and second part could have had 10 minutes taken out of it. Still, it was great and the acting was top notch.
@Verboten-xn4rx
@Verboten-xn4rx Жыл бұрын
Nolanhiemer his confession porn of a dud - I am Becometh tinsel.
@thesupermayoreo
@thesupermayoreo Жыл бұрын
It’s a really good thriller when it’s makes my palms sweaty.
@gmotionedc5412
@gmotionedc5412 Жыл бұрын
I’ll wait for the DVD directors cuts
@Wired4Life2
@Wired4Life2 Жыл бұрын
Loved _Oppenheimer,_ but yeah...the length is one of the reasons why the film is my textbook definition of a 9/10.
@elskeletor3566
@elskeletor3566 Жыл бұрын
Gonna Pass on this one. The trailer just didn't sell me
@websurfer8670
@websurfer8670 Жыл бұрын
I dont wana hear chris gore complain about it being to long. This man has been whining for the last 5 years that we need more original films.
@marccreation1052
@marccreation1052 Жыл бұрын
There was a good movie about builing the bomb already with Paul Newman. Still, gonna give this a watch.
@LiEv838
@LiEv838 Жыл бұрын
An excellent film that was hindered in parts due to the run time.
@cbrreezzyy69
@cbrreezzyy69 Жыл бұрын
Completely disagree. It could’ve been an hour longer and I wouldn’t have minded.
@swaroopboyina4236
@swaroopboyina4236 Жыл бұрын
​@@cbrreezzyy69me too
@kevinhardy8997
@kevinhardy8997 Жыл бұрын
Was interesting, liked it, very cerebral. Cons: too long, bomb not theatrical, too many court scenes.
@serristori
@serristori Жыл бұрын
Just saw Oppenheimer. Run time was not a factor here. Interstellar felt long by comparison. I believe people expect a Christopher Nolan movie to be three hours at this point. Present-day David Lean, in that respect.
@galetinm
@galetinm Жыл бұрын
It's not 3 hours and 15 minutes. It's 3 hours even. They could maybe shorten the first hour a little, but that's it. The last hour, after the Trinity test, is great.
@sutterkane5716
@sutterkane5716 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it did
@shadowchaser3836
@shadowchaser3836 Жыл бұрын
Oppenheimer should have been released on July 16. 😎
@aztro4010
@aztro4010 Жыл бұрын
I hate that stupid excuse where they say it's too long, like we just had Avatar: The Way of Water and Babylon (which are two movies i actually like).
@yohansetiawan1323
@yohansetiawan1323 Жыл бұрын
The title of the movie is 'Oppenheimer' not 'The Making of the A Bomb' and that's why we're told the story of what happened to him
@smith9808
@smith9808 Жыл бұрын
Because you’re anticipating the build up to the bomb, I felt the 3 hours went very fast.
@darylb5564
@darylb5564 Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why so many people bitch about long movies. For some movies 15 minutes is too long and for some movies 3 hours isn’t long enough
@caldodge
@caldodge Жыл бұрын
"A particular set of skills."
@caldodge
@caldodge Жыл бұрын
Does the movie mention the estimates that invading Japan would've cost millions of American and Japanese deaths?
@nymphey
@nymphey Жыл бұрын
I think they just say that "our soldiers can go home earlier" if they drop the bomb. I didn't like at all how this debate was portrayed, Trueman & his colleagues was totally dehumanised: instead of portraying them as conflicted men who have to make a tough decision, they were straight-out arrogant dicks who couldn't even properly pronounce Nagasaki. The whole segment about the decision-making behind Hiroshima/Nagasaki was just two short scenes among the other hundreds of scenes that the movie is packed with, it should've deserved more time.
@swaroopboyina4236
@swaroopboyina4236 Жыл бұрын
​@@nympheyDidn't Truman say "Don't let that crybaby in" after the meeting with Oppenheimer? I don't think he's very conflicted about the bombings
@dragonknightleader1
@dragonknightleader1 Жыл бұрын
@@nymphey Yeah, Truman was a real jerk and was selected as VP because FDR planned on holding power forever, so he's this president that's just mid.
@djstarsign
@djstarsign Жыл бұрын
@@nympheybingo
@nymphey
@nymphey Жыл бұрын
@@swaroopboyina4236 Well, that's how the film portrays him. It's okay to show that possibly the atomic bomb ends up in the hands of coldblooded leaders. However, it doesn't do justice to the dilemma that the War in the Pacific was really cruel, and therefore even someone who's not an asshole might have considered detonating the bomb to end the war. The film kinda oversimplified what was probably a very complex decision-making process. I would've rather watched that than 1,5 hours of the phony "courtroom" hearings.
@TheRyanVillareal
@TheRyanVillareal Жыл бұрын
What’s worse is Nolan fans acting like he’s the only director that makes original movies and anyone with just a minor critique of his film must only watch Marvel movies.
@sarkastodon30
@sarkastodon30 Жыл бұрын
Just saw it and spot on. Plus I really think they should have done the Japanese bombs differently by **spoiler** showing them. It was a bit anticlimactic. Still could have done it tastefully with the same message. Agree last act could have been shorter. And that was interesting to find out about the dialogue. Personally I found it hard to hear which for a movie with a complex plot and names was hard to follow. Cinematography though. Wow 💥
@winterrising8738
@winterrising8738 Жыл бұрын
lol they will never show USA doing warcrimes.
@Flfreedom
@Flfreedom Жыл бұрын
Saw it in 70mm and IMAX Laser…hardly any FX to justify needing to see it that way. Just lots of acting and closeups…and yes, it was film, you could see the edges on top screen
@marineboy1964
@marineboy1964 Жыл бұрын
That's what my Mrs said
@edwardjohnson6744
@edwardjohnson6744 Жыл бұрын
"THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!"
@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat
@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat Жыл бұрын
I'm a big proponent of good old fashioned 24fps gold standard lensing onto chemical film negative whever possible at all because the result is automatically a more authentically visceral yet artfully comprised cinematically purposeful aesthetic in complete composition. More intimately tactile for poignant prestige yet poetically precious in a permeating paramnesia (look it up, lol). Like wistfully looking through a window into memory, dream, myth and reality at once. More than the sum of its parts - all the nuts and bolts essentially seducing a subtle psychology of symbiotic synesthesia that just feels more truthfully vital and involving. There's an achingly indelible alchemy imposed upon each uniquely burnt frame that evokes rapturous life - and can perhaps even allude to existence as an inevitably ephemeral surrender to satiate a sovereign source which sirens our search to survive into its sacredness... if one is sensitive to such signatures. At any rate, Digital is just inherently inferior no matter how close it achieves its filmic mimicry. There's usually a faint yet nagging residue of oppressively bleak clinical sterility about digital's dim waxy dullness like the movie is in an anesthetized state of not quite being present in full perceptive sentience that can contextualize its spacial moment in time with dimensional cognition for being encompassed by an orienting derivation and destination to denote the immediacy of the now. Digital has to be finessed in fine tuned filtering in a sort of summoned séance for finally impressioning a kind of necromancy as opposed to the necrophilia it otherwise actually is. Too often unnervingly uncanny, there's some intangible lack about digital as if suffocated in a lingering limbo of nearly nauseous agnosia - particularly when juxtaposed with a savvy acclimation toward the indelibly mystical attributes of real film. But physical film reel projection doesn't make sense to me. Digital projection insures the integrity of original intent remains consistently prestine. Maybe I could be convinced however that it does in deed also hold that certain spark of magic in its flicker too.
@doomraven0
@doomraven0 Жыл бұрын
Wow, i love the technical side of movie making and cinema is certainly a magical artform but this comment was as pretentious and bloated as Chris Nolan's films have become.
@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat
@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat Жыл бұрын
@@doomraven0 Good, I am pretentious and bloated. More bloated than pretentious. But what's your excuse for being so threatened by vocabulary or concepts that aren't cookie cut to fit copy/paste parrots?
@MrVad3r
@MrVad3r Жыл бұрын
theatres in my town are ass unfortunately. last nolan movie i saw in my local town pissed me off with audio mixing too. my fondest movies that i watched on theatres here was the prestige, inception and interstellar .. movies after that seem to have too much exposition and horrible audio mixing. there is some lacking since Jonathan Nolan and him stopped working together.
@FireCrack83
@FireCrack83 Жыл бұрын
I was bored after 1 hour. I like the most Nolan movies but the last 2.....not mine
@dazblue5515
@dazblue5515 Жыл бұрын
...as the actress said to the bishop
@michaeldavies7949
@michaeldavies7949 Жыл бұрын
A bit long but I enjoyed the performances. It is a glad diversion from all the Disney/DC/Marvel/Lucasfilm crap that has lowered the cinematic standard in Hollywood
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