I'm looking into these things since I just bought an A6400. It's a bit bizarre for me when most of my university time (cinematography) was about how to do image stabilization with your bare hands and body, and I did just fine for years with an old beat up Canon 550D and vintage lenses. It's cool how much technology can do for us but let's not forget that skills > gear. Learn how to position your arms, how to move your legs when shooting handheld video walking or even with a tripod, how to sync your breathing to what you do with the camera etc. Be aware of everything your body is doing in relation to the camera, experiment, practice. It's all free.

For testing stabilization in photography, you really need to have longer shutter speeds (1/30th at 30mm for example) and take a number of shots. Also, aperture around 5.6-8 so that focus is not so critical.

Should have been using slow shutter speeds to test the stabilisation for stills.

YESSSS! I was waiting for this kind of video!

Love the examples and knowledge you shared in this video. I bought the A6300 and then realized the 6500 came with IBIS and was thinking of upgrading for the sigma trio but thanks to your examples I will keep my 6300.

The video I didn't know I wanted. Excellent content Arthur.

Nice to see a comparison between optical and internal stabilisation. Taking this further, it would be helpful to see the comparison for video between either one one these stabilisation functions and both together! Thanks

Thank you, thank you thank you! You are the first reviewer on KZfaq to tackle this topic. You did a really good job in making the comparison. Thanks again. I should add It's amazing that of the hundreds of KZfaq photography comparison videos I've watched, nobody has ever done an in-body versus optical stabilization comparison. At least never for the Sony. Congratulations and thanks again.

Excellent job, as always. I have been wondering about this sort of thing.

Perfect timing this video came out, was thinking this yesterday n searching

Very Informative Videos. Great job!!!!!!!!

Thank you so much for this! Would be cool to also see test footage of both IBIS and OSS working together

Great comparison. I have personally found IBIS to make a big difference for me as far as photography goes vs OSS. As a landscape guy, I tend to leave my tripod in my vehicle much more often and rely on handheld methods for single shots.

I love this channel and have been looking for more a6400 vs. a6500 comparisons, but for someone trying to decide between these two models, a more helpful comparison would: 1. Test the same lenses on each body to isolate the effect of IBIS 2. Test the slowest shutter speed that results in a sharp handheld photo at various focal lengths (especially longer ones) - then calculate approximately how many stops of stabilization IBIS provides by taking log2 of the no-IBIS shutter duration over the IBIS shutter duration 3. Test handheld video while standing still 4. (Slightly more niche:) Test on a gimbal while walking. All reviewers are saying to just use a gimbal for video and you don't need IBIS, but gimbals have micro-jitters that IBIS helps with. There are a few videos testing these, but nothing super thorough, especially covering longer focal lengths. If you cover any of these points as an add-on review, that would be great! Would also be very interesting if you covered the claimed color science improvements in the a6400 especially for skin tones, both with AWB and with manual white balance. And of course direct comparison of the eye auto focus and object tracking auto focus modes for both models. I've mulled over renting an a6400 and making a video doing such comparisons with my a6500 myself, but I'm sure these review videos are a ton of work to get right.

amazing amazing review Arthur.. It helped

Instant thumbs up for mounting two cameras on the same holder. Better than any comparison with lens change.

Damn good job love your channel and reviews!

Thank you so much for this vid. yes, I just picked up the a 6400 and I was a little concerned about the lack of Ibis but you totally made it clear that it doesn't make a difference, and for video you definitely need a gamble anyway. Thanks dude, I love your videos!

Thanks so much for this video, helped a lot with my purchasing choice. You ROCK!!!

Man, you've just dispeled all my doubts that I have had for last few weeks. You should get The Oscar for that!

I was waiting for the color science comparison between the a6400 and 6500, thanks!

Tamron VC lenses for the Sony e mount have image stabilization. I had a Tamron Di III VC 18-200mm and the Vibration Control (VC) worked great on my A6000. Steadyshot is simply what Sony calls their lens IS feature.

Awesome video, this was something I was going to do myself!

This Video was really helpful , i was tempted to get a IBIS body but now will just by a gymbal

Get this man to 100k! He makes great videos.

Thanks for this! Great video. I’m using an a6500 and i love its ibis a lot.

This really helped me, thank you so much sir! Subscribed

thanks man..this was really helpful

I have a Sony A6300 and I've found that for handheld slow panning video, having a steady shot lens is a definite benefit. That being said, if I wanted to use my A6300 for pro video, I would get a gimbal. My Sigma lenses work very well hand held in low light without IBIS or steady shot if I am cognizant of the shutter speed. Since the trio is very fast, I can shoot at a 30th of a second or better in most situations without exploding the ISO settings. The only camera I've used where in camera stabilization is really useful is my new GoPro 7. It works amazingly well when walking or running. Bottom line, for smooth motion video, get a gimbal or get a Go Pro 7.

Thanks for another great video! An unrelated request - any chance you would post some tutorial videos? Your pics and videos are amazing. I'd love to learn which settings you use on the camera. I just bought a6500 after watching your channel for a while, and I'd love to learn how to use it better. Yeah, I know, there are other tutorial channels out there. I like your videos though. No-nonsense, to the point, just the right length and great info. Thanks!

What a great video very informative!!!

Very informative. Very unbiased. Very helpful.

Thanks for the video, very well done. As some others have suggested I would like to see the performance in handheld low light between the stabilization methods.(not for video use) Thanks again

thank u so much for this review!

Would be good to see OSS vs IBIS + OSS

Grt ..... looks like a sincere review.👍😊

Hi Arthur, great video as always. I'm using Sony a6300 mostly for video work and e-mount lenses I have are Sigma 16mm f1.4 and Sigma 30mm f1.4 and both of them are great on stedicam. No IBIS or OSS is needed. Third lens I have is Sony 50mm f1.8 OIS that I don't use on stedicam but is great for video shooting on monopod. In manual video mode Sigma 16mm and Sigma 30mm aren't great for use on monopod, Sigma 30mm more than Sigma 16mm, because lack of stabilization and micro jitters can be seen eg. while touching the lens and doing manual focusing. That's the reason why I've picked Sony 50mm f1.8 over the Sigma 56mm f1.4.

thanks for this video really helped!!!

Please redo the video using lower shutter speeds, it'd be really interesting to know! The idea is to find out how slow the shutter speed can be with both systems, and looking at different focal lengths. Stabilization becomes useful for shutter speeds below the reciprocal rule. People say that OSS is better at longer focal lengths, so you could try at 70, 100, 200, etc. Thanks for your videos, they are very good and unbiased!

THANKS!!! Great content, very useful, help me decide. Now I`m waiting for the a6400 kit and a 50-16mm 1.8 oss lens. The two lenses with oss thanks to your information. Greatings from Argentina

Really need tthis video, thank you!!

1. There are two Sigma trios - the 2.8 trio and the 1.4 trio 2. Another channel compared Sony to Panasonic IBIS and Panasonic was much better 3. My Pixel 2 XL combination of OIS and EIS almost looks like a gimbal shot in video and is much, much better than the Sony A6500 handheld for video. 4. Continued great videos, thanks for doing the test and for your channel!

Gracias x la prueba científica, muchas dudas despejadas de una forma muy bien explicada.

you have good quality information thank you

As an older(ish) guy not having the steadiest hands in the world, I just upgraded from the a6000 to the a6500. IBIS was the main reason. I don't notice the difference with my Sigma 30/1.4 (although there probably would be one if I turn the lights way down) as it was not a problem on the a6000 anyway. I notice the difference on my unstabilised 90mm (an old heavyish Tamron SP). a6000 needed my elbow planted on something solid: with a6500 I can hand-hold.

Great video. Im actually surprised. I did not know that OSS does such a good job.

I'm using a Sony A7 mach 1 so this video was helpful very well done Arthur.

I've got 6400, so this is really informative and helpful to me. Thx for your video.

Great video!! If you use an oss lens with ibis makes a differences?

Thanks Arthur, that was really helpful. I also was wondering which system was doing a better job before a buy a sony camera.

Thanks for the insight. Your conclusion of getting a gimbal for moving subjects for video hits the nail. This is so when I need to video my dog moving. I guess with a gimbal, it will be better for a 6400 for tracking my dog vs the a6500? on a gimbal. And for handheld video, the use of OSS like 10-18, 35mm should do fine? Basically sigma lens are out for handheld stationary video with slight movement.

Couldn't have said it better, only camera that is super stable because of IBIS is the Gh5 because sensor is a lot smaller, easier to stabilize, ibis is a better help on non stabilized lenses and on photography not video

Thanks alot! That was helpful!

You are probably my favorite Sony reviewer. I’ve found that the OSS is a must with my 50mm prime. Tried it without and got micro jitters. I will be purchasing the a6500 successor for its IBIS. I shoot 50/50 pics and videos, so I don’t want to bother with a gimbal, plus I don’t want the extra attention a gimbal would give me.

I have noticed a bigger difference when trying to stand still to record video. In that case, OSS is stellar and not having it will result in unpleasant jittery shakes. After all it's called optical STEADY SHOT. I shoot on a A6300. Love your videos, btw.

As a Canon Boy, still photographer, I've been very interested in this question. I hear the fuss about IBIS and covet it, and then meanwhile, get great shots without it.

Great video as always. Using a viltrox lV adaptor, Canon lens internal stabilisation works fine, even with the A6000.

5:51 reading her mind: "Arthur!! take the picture already my face is hurting from holding this smile!!"

Very nice video. Thanks a lot. I'm choosing a6300 for my next camera

Great comparisson! could you test it in low light? or and telephoto? thats what I am most interested in :D

Useful video.. thank you

Hi Arthur, which gimbal do you recommend for the Sony 6x00? Unfortunately the small Crane M is discontinued. Thanks and finger crossed for 100k

Really surprised you didn't show us the combo of IBIS + OSS to show the advantage of both working together...

Thanks for the comparison Arthur. I completely agree with you. There’s a lot of hype about IBIS and Optical Stabilization. People easily get misled and over expect on the word “stabilization” . They expect the same performance for both video and still photography. The real intent for any stabilization really, is for photography and not so much for videography. For videos, it’s always better to use a gimbal because there’s way too much movement for a camera to compensate for (unless you go to a action camera).

Great video I have canon fd lens and was wondering if it was worth the expense of upgrading my A7 to the A7ii or iii for video or just stick with my Sony kit 28-70 with oss. I think you have answered my question and saved me a lot of money. Thank you 🙏

this man...coming through with the SCIENCE. thank you!

Thanks for the video which was surprising and answered exactly the question I had in mind. Colour also looks better on 6400. Subscribed!

This video has saved me a lot of money. I was just about to pull the trigger on a A6600 just to get the IBIS and superior image quality. I have a A6300 at the moment and I've been very happy with it as I only shoot video I'm not a photographer. I think I'm happy to stick with the A6300 until I can save for a A7Siii maybe a year from now but I'll get there.

Hi Arthur, thank you for this video! I'm curious, I just upgraded to the Sony G master lens. As you know it doesn't have stabilization on the lens, nor the a6400 body. I use the setup mainly for video work. I'm curious, do you think I should upgrade to the a6500 to at least get some stabilization? Thanks so much for your videos!

In the first five minutes you said that you had already taken apart a Sony OSS lens and had put it back together, and that you made a video about it. I then proceeded to SUBSCRIBE because that sounds so cool and I can anticipate that you have a lot of really good videos that are likely very interesting. 😃😃👀👀

Nice video! Thanks! I'm kinda hoping the expected a7000 comes out this year, dont really care about IBIS now that I've seen your test video but i do care for 4k 60p. If this odes not happen the a6400 would be my choice since I already have the 35 1.8 OSS lens.

I would suggest a rerun of this test using a lens that you can disable OSS on a6500. Take a shot with IBIS on then take the same shot and disable IBIS and have OSS on. The best test is using shutter speed priority and see how far you can reduce the speed. I found that IBIS helps me a lot when using unstabilised telephoto lenses handheld. Best result is combination of both though. I managed to shoot a waterfall at 0.8s shutter speed (for the classical silky smooth water shot) handheld using a6500 with the Sony 18-200 (using both IBIS and OSS)

Thanks... But yet again missed opportunity.. PLEASE test some photos at low light, maybe images if church interiors or similar. This aspect is VERY important to so many photographers. Thanks.

Love your videos! My question. What about OSS lenses in conjunction with IBIS? You touched on it but didn't really give a result. Personally, for photography, any stabilization is helpful. I don't shoot video so I would like to know how OSS on say an a6000 compares to an OSS lens on the a6500 working in conjunction with IBIS.

This video should be in high demand ! exactly what i was looking for now that the a6600 released, i won't feel bad that i have the a6400, i am glad to hear that the OSS is close or better than IBIS, and the biggest difference is with a high quality gimble.

The Sony 70-200 f4 lens switches between two levels of OSS. Position 1 is for normal use where you hold the camera still. Level 2 is for panning. It would be interesting to see how these two systems work.

Very nice comparison, actually first I've seen on the point. I think you should complete it with a second video in the situations you listed in the video. Low light and tele photo situations. I also have a question: in other brands (Nikon VR for example, Canon ...) OSS or whatever they call it. Does it work with same principle? Thanks for the video!

for video, when im using sigma 16mm f1.4 with my A6500, if i turn of steadyshot/IBIS, the small jittery is killing me, and it's quite noticeable, if i turn on the IBIS, the small jitters become more quite less noticeable, especially when im trying to vlog with my hand, for the shake when im using to record video when im walking, it can be eliminated by using warp stabilizer in premiere pro, the result is quite smooth. as long as im not doing some sudden movement e.g running,sudden panning movement etc, otherwise it will result in "jelly" footage after using the warp function in premiere pro. personally, the IBIS and OSS in the sony mirrorless camera are geared toward still photography, but not quite for video. great example of IBIS implementation can be seen from panasonic mirrorless cameras (GH5, GX85, etc) their implementation of IBIS is quite superior than A6500, and really make video footage appear more smooth. IMHO

Arthur, the rig you used has a lot of mass with the two cameras and the rig itself. That mass acts like a damper dramatically reducing any camera shake. So those cameras are not experiencing the camera shake which they would if they were individually hand held. Try shutter speeds in the 1/20 to 1/60 range too.

Nice video one more time! I have the Sony a6000 and you persuade me from your videos to buy a gimbal for steady videos. I like Weebill Lab from Zhiyun-Tech because of its size and ergonomics. Have you used it?

Awesome video

Hi can you make a lens buying guide for sony a6500 or aps-c user that want to upgrade to full frame/ a7iii.? Thanks.

Great Video

Sigma lenses with A6500 is a killer combination for low shutter speeds. Ibis is priceless to me.

Need to know ... Who produces better colour at profile settings (s log2) ..?

I used to shoot Fujifilm w/o IBIS and didn't miss it at all. Although a good OSS helps especially at longer focal lengths. But if you know, how to use the camera and how to stand, you can easily take pictures at lower shutter speeds. I notice, that people are getting more and more reliable on technology and then complain about bad gear, when they are failing in the principles of photography. I always give my students the advise to first learn the basics and principles of photography and then OSS/IBIS will help beyond physics ;-)

Hi. I need you suggestion. I own a Sony a6400 and I am looking to purchase the sigma 56mm f1.4. Prime. The only issue is that the lens has no oss. I would love to shoot videos with that. I am so skeptical on the lens without oss, so I am thinkin to go in for Sony 50mm f1.8 with oss. What do I suggest. Will the sigma work well with the a6400 for video without oss?

Please add a label in corners when comparing shots, I would like to see which side is which camera rather than to wait for you to maybe mention it :) Other than that, keep up! Great videos! ;)

Definitely if doing vids, spend the extra on a good gimbal, instead of IBIS. As always, your vids are the best, and THANKS so much for that. Not having the interest myself, just personal photography, or the deep pockets, your reviews are .... again, the best. Saved me quite a few THB. Love the side by sides in all of them, and the only true way to compare. Opinions backed up with 'visual aids'.....LOL THANKS again.

Great video! But how it works on gimbals, what better? And in "handheld panning" IBIS looks much smoother. Thank you!

interesting video, well done

Best sony stuff guy ✋

Great to know. Thanks

Thanks for the videos. Please tell me if my Sonya77m2 has a Port for a battery pack. . At the bottom it says multi Micro USB terminal. Is that for charging the battery while out in the bush ? And if so , can I use any battery power bank or are some stronger then others. Mine is a Pineng power bank model ,PN999. Sorry but some of us don’t understand even the camera instruction book. Thanks.

This is very interesting!

Hi thanks for comparison review. Why footage from both cameras are so distorted while moving instead of being just shaky? Is that KZfaq decoding process or smth else?

Thank you! Amazing that you did that comparison. I was thinking if I should sell my a6500 and buy a6400. I need the flip out screen. And you helped me to make the decision. I will get the a6400 for sure. Actually I had really high expectations towards ibis and the camera failed. Picture is so shaky its better to use action cam for vlogging 😂. My new set up will be a6400 plus gimbal.

I have a Panasonic G9 and was thinking of the advantages of APSC Sensor but.... however the advantage may be this shakiness just destroys any of them on both A6400/6500 so I will stick with my G9. Thanks for the eye opener.

I love the skintones on a6500 on the rights side, why are they different than in the a6400 on the left? Different color science in the bodies, different lens or just different picture profile?

Where do you got the double hand holder for two cams? I would like buy one