Optimising your omega 3 intake | Dr Bill Harris

Optimising your omega 3 intake | Dr Bill Harris | The Proof Podcast EP 208

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In Episode 208, I’m joined by expert researcher Dr Bill Harris to discuss the relationship between omega-3 fatty acids and human health.
Increasingly, online nutrition conversation is moving away from scientific literature and is more heavily influenced by marketing and controversial claims for personal gain. Whether people are making these statements to grow their online community or capitalise on a financial opportunity, omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids are yet another topic surrounded by bold claims.
Dr Bill Harris is a leading researcher in omega-3 fatty acid research. As the author of more than 300 scientific papers on fatty acids and health, he brings decades of researched knowledge to the conversation. He is a true expert in field who has been researching these fats for decades, offering a thoroughly informed and genuinely scientific perspective.
In this episode, you’ll learn about the different types of dietary fats and why saturation is important in terms of human health. We cover the connection between cholesterol, fat saturation, and heart disease; the benefits and potential concerns of consuming omega-3s; supplementation guidelines; omega-6s and inflammation; the difference between adequate and optimal intake; and much more.
Specifically, we discuss:
0:00 Intro
5:21 What are Fats
10:28 Dr. Harris’s Research
12:45 Dietary guidelines & saturated fats
24:40 Monounsaturated Fats
27:37 Unsaturated Fats
33:47 Omega 6s
49:21 Omega 3s
1:21:04 Omega 3 Supplement Protocols
1:40:16 DHA - Prostate Cancer & Brain Health
1:55:09 Outro
You can learn more about Dr Bill Harris’ research at the Omega Quant: omegaquant.com/
and Fatty Acid Research Institute: www.faresinst.org/ websites.
To connect with Omega Quant team, you can access their Instagram: / omega3index
Twitter: / omegaquant
and Facebook: / omega3index pages.
Thank you to The Proof friend Eimele Essential 8 for sponsoring today’s episode. Eimele Essential 8 offers the right nutrients, in the right doses, to complement a plant-rich diet. To save 5% on your first order, head to theproof.com/friends/
Enjoy, friends.
Simon
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Supporting studies:
- The diet and 15-year death rate in the seven countries study [PMID: 3776973] pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3776973/
- Ancel Keys and the Seven Countries Study www.truehealthinitiative.org/...
- Dietary lipids and blood cholesterol: quantitative meta-analysis of metabolic ward studies [PMID: 9006469] pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9006469/
- The comparative reductions of the plasma lipids and lipoproteins by
dietary polyunsaturated fats: salmon oil versus vegetable oils [PMID: 6827988] pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6827988/
- Dietary Linoleic Acid and Risk of Coronary Heart Disease: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis of Prospective Cohort Studies PMID: [25161045] pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25161045
- Biomarkers of Dietary Omega-6 Fatty Acids and Incident Cardiovascular Disease and Mortality [PMID: 30971107] pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30971...
- Omega-6 fatty acid biomarkers and incident type 2 diabetes: pooled analysis of individual-level data for 39 740 adults from 20 prospective cohort studies PMID: [29032079] pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29032079
- Tissue n-3 and n-6 fatty acids and risk for coronary heart disease events [PMID: 17507020] pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17507...
- Increasing dietary linoleic acid does not increase tissue arachidonic acid content in adults consuming Western-type diets: a systematic review [PMID: 21663641] pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21663...
- Cardiovascular Risk Reduction with Icosapent Ethyl for Hypertriglyceridemia [PMID: 30415628] pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30415...
- Effect of High-Dose Omega-3 Fatty Acids vs Corn Oil on Major Adverse Cardiovascular Events in Patients at High Cardiovascular Risk: The STRENGTH Randomized Clinical Trial [PMID: 33190147] pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33190...
- Marine n-3 Fatty Acids and Prevention of Cardiovascular Disease and Cancer [PMID: 30415637] pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30415...
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@jeffreywp Жыл бұрын

How does this channel not have more subscribers? Yes, the episodes are long, but they are chock full of great conversation and poignant questions.

@musicmonsterman8395 Жыл бұрын

100% agree, this is my favorite nutrition channel on KZfaq by a mile

@ethioamericann Жыл бұрын

Just realized as well that very few people viewed this important subject matter in a span of one year timeframe . It is ironic the majority of people are indifference & totally disconnected to the life changing topic like this.

@robertweis3364 9 ай бұрын

The population is indifferent until THEY are the one with the malady. Then it’s harder and most are not up to the challenge.

@markumark1 9 ай бұрын

@@ethioamericann Yeah. It would be nice if more people saw it here, but I believe many people also listen on the other platforms It's available on.

@torstrasburg8289 9 ай бұрын

Not click-baity enough. No fear-mongering or orthorexia inducing pronouncements. No food dictum. No "what doctors don't want you to know". Not sensationalist or extreme. Finally, and there are many more, The Proof is science-based-not fudged science, or misinterpreted science, or pseudoscience.

@jp7357 2 ай бұрын

You are an excellent interviewer … you never try to impress the audience with your obviously deep knowledge and let your guest show their expertise. I also like the way you dot go off on non plant foods. I’ve added fatty fish back into my plant based diet due to protein requirement (120g-150g) while still trying to maintain a 500kcal deficit ..

@samyuktagovind8748 9 ай бұрын

This has become my favourite health channel. Each podcast is a gem

@postpunkjustin 2 жыл бұрын

I've been going through the whole backlog of the podcast and this is easily one of my favorite episodes so far. I loved learning more about what omega-3 fatty acids do and how, but having a specific evidence-based supplementation plan is absolutely priceless. Cheers Simon, keep up the fantastic work!

@barryth 10 ай бұрын

IHave to agree. in addition, I've seen Bill on other KZfaq channels and Simon sure extracted Bill's knowledge comprehensively.

@ImpulseFortune 4 ай бұрын

I wish someone would mention cost in these discussions. Ballpark figures, ~500 mg per day of epa+dha (roughly what most governments recommend on average) will run you about $0.10 a day in the form of fish oil but $0.50 a day in the form of algal oil. In other words to get what he is recommending (~1000 mg a day) you are asking people, on the vegan side, to literally spend a dollar a day to achieve that. That is… not a negligible amount of money for a significant fraction of the population, even ignoring the third world.

@simashakila Жыл бұрын

Could you invite Dr. Brooke Goldner next? She uses the high Omega 3 and low Omega 6 approach in her protocol reverse autoimmune conditions in her patients.

@dailyoccasions9539 7 ай бұрын

I use Dr. Brooke Goldners protocol for my autoimmune disease. Changing my life!!!!

@mayurim9839 2 жыл бұрын

I always learn something new when listening to Dr Harris on a podcast, he's really good at explaining things! Also, the questions asked were really helpful and ones that I haven't heard posed in a such a way to him before. Learnt a lot. Thank you.

@astonuk9403 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely need a part two, maybe Dr B could muster up some research on dietary omega 3 and fatty acids on the gut microbiota. It appears omega 3 intake also alters the gut microbiome composition and some of its cardiovascular effects appear to be potentially mediated by its effect on gut microbial fermentation products indicating that it may be a prebiotic nutrient.

@johnny7808 2 жыл бұрын

I did not know that. Wonder if Dr Bill Davis has looked into it

@sabincioflec8413 Жыл бұрын

Rhonda patrick has something about this, that it decreases LPS and it's overall healthy

@niranjanpaul2176 10 ай бұрын

@@sabincioflec8413 oh yes Rhonda

@azdhan 7 ай бұрын

Many thanks to you and your host for this. It really helps cut through a lot of conflicting, confusing, and contradictory information I have come across on this issue.

@lynnwilliams5432 11 ай бұрын

Write a book on “ The Science of Sardines”

@kdcoys3 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for diving into the science and chemistry of Omegas!

@joannsmith9 9 ай бұрын

I think one of the brilliant minds in the science/longevity field is the Wellness Messiah. I’d love to see him get the attention he deserves. He did a deep dive into the Sinclair/Brad controversy regarding resveratrol. His medaresearch was phenomenal and his conclusions fascinating.

@woofinu Жыл бұрын

Thank you for a very detailed, nuanced discussion

@hrc6408 2 жыл бұрын

Great episode.. loved this and thanks for doing topics like this that are not just about being vegan. I am predominantly plant based but I eat fish and take omega 3s. It’s what I feel is best for me.

@rosemaryw2742 11 ай бұрын

I really wanted to learn more about lipids. However when I started listening I was very disappointed that they started right off condemning saturated fat. My lipid levels improved when I cut down carbs and increased saturated fats. I also lost weight without trying. We are all different. We each need to figure out what works for our body.

@inthevortex-de1rh 9 ай бұрын

I think carbs are the worse foods, specifically refined carbs and fruits. I am eating less of those type of carbs and losing weight easily and effortlessly! I have no more cravings and losing my belly fat like crazy! I eat more fats, proteins and lots of salads. I feel more energetic too

@71taeus 2 жыл бұрын

Such an excellent episode. It answered so many of my questions and had me checking my supplements cupboard; happy to find I had the ideal omega3s, just need to adjust my dosage slightly. I would love to have heard his thoughts on recommendations for pregnancy and was disappointed this wasn’t covered. Excellent interview as usual Simon

@71taeus 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheProofWithSimonHill Oh fantastic! I'll look forward to that :)

@debrafischer5064 7 ай бұрын

What brand do you take?

@cadupradoo Жыл бұрын

Nice, Simon! Awesome, actually! I did miss some of the possible disadvantages of fish consumption due to PCBs, mercury, etc.

@BlahBlahPoop617 11 ай бұрын

I think if they impacted health negatively that much, in any measurable way, it would show up in the outcome data on high fish eaters and negate the positive associations with health.

@lynnritchie231 8 ай бұрын

@@BlahBlahPoop617Pretty sure Rich Roll gave up eating fish after his blood test showed high levels of Mercury.

@user-hs1eq2cf9o Ай бұрын

What a great conversation!!! Thanks from Brazil🙏🏼

@geoffpalmer6717 2 жыл бұрын

Sign me up for the study of Vegans using ALA vs those taking supplemental (algae) EPA/DHA. I have never taken a preformed EPA/DHA supplement and have been Vegan for 37yrs! And I am a natural bodybuilding champion, 100% drug free at 59yrs of age. Great video! Thanks to you both.

@niken538 Жыл бұрын

That’s amazing, I was worried about not supplementing DHA/EPA, mainly because it’s not available in my country, how much ALA you consume daily?

@geoffpalmer6717 Жыл бұрын

@@niken538 About 2-3g/day from food and supplements combined.

@GlennMarshallnz Жыл бұрын

@@geoffpalmer6717Hi what foods and supplements do you consume to get that level? Thanks in advance. Also do you take any other supplements e.g. b12, pea,protein powder.

@chipsmith7459 10 ай бұрын

I was wondering also about ALA by itself. There is a study that shows ALA stops/slows the progress of ALS. Also ALA reduces brain TAU. One other study that mentioned that ALA reverses endothelium damage. All newer studies.

@MistyBell13 9 ай бұрын

Always fascinating but I always go back to the fact we eat food not constituents. Prof T Colin Cambell has it right in his book Whole. Blue Zones also helpful because it's the totality of our diet AND lifestyle that gives us the answers. Reductionist science has a place Of course but sometimes it just leads down the rabbit hole 😊

@user-ry7wf3df9h Ай бұрын

I hope you know how important what you are doing is for the public. Even if someone doesn’t understand all the intricacies of the research- it helps people understand HOW to look at research and all the factors that go into a study. Thank you for all the thoughtful important information and challenging different “camps” in the nutrition world ❤

@bettyle88 4 ай бұрын

This is one of my favorite health channel, I like the deep dive. May we have a topic about dry skin, especially postmenopausal dry skin, and hypothyroidism dry skin? Thanks!

@leniolesch896 2 жыл бұрын

I loved this episode. Especially his take on Omega 6 was revealing. However, I won’t start consuming seed oils. Also seeds as whole foods contains Omega 6. So I stick to sunflower seeds and alike. The episode would even be better with the Plant Proof music 😇😇

@smilebot484 2 жыл бұрын

i agree taking these fats as whole nuts and seeds helps them not lead to weight gain especially when you get a bit older. but i would mix up the sources and not stick to just one seed.

@metalrunner4398 Жыл бұрын

@@panes840 McDougall is a pseudoscientific quack responsible for thousands of ex vegans. He broke a hip but still claims calcium, protein and vit D intake is not important. His arguments are as dumb as those of Shawn Baker’s. “As long as you eat the way I tell you, you don’t need essential nutrients”.

@maricamaas2326 9 ай бұрын

Omega 6 is also in eggs, chicken, turkey, pork, red meat, sardines etc. My concern with nuts (besides for that they are expensive) is the possibility of anti-nutrients.

@lynnritchie231 8 ай бұрын

@@smilebot484If I eat nuts, I pile on the pounds, sadly.

@InspiriumESOO 5 ай бұрын

@@maricamaas2326 eggs, chicken, turkey, pig, cow, sardines etc. are not only unhealthy but also unethical.

@ineshomemdemelo9254 Жыл бұрын

Great discussion! As a psychiatrist, this was super useful!

@tumbleweeduk7479 9 ай бұрын

Just in case you have not discovered the work of Dr Abraham Hoffer available on “DOCTOR YOURSELF” I cured my best friend’s schizophrenia with a gluten and sugar free diet with 500 mg of Niacin with every meal and 800 mg of NAC N-Acetyl Cysteine. He has been on horrific drugs that have destroyed his life and physical health for 47 years and is now drug free and living alone and independently and safely. Very content, cooking, caring for himself but physically disabled from the drugs. What a lost life due to to Doctors being Drug Pushers. I guess you are not one of them or you would not be watching this! I have MPD/DID and have been drug free thirty plus years using homoeopathy, supplements and Emotional Freedom Technique EFT. Namaste 🙏

@maricamaas2326 9 ай бұрын

Have you looked into the work of Nutritional Psychiatrist Georgia Ede?

@rickduker4969 9 ай бұрын

According to Chris Masterjohn EPA is not required at all except perhaps in a specific pharmaceutical use. He explains that arachidonic acid when combined with DHA resolves inflammation. EPA prevents AA from being used by the cell.

@SmS7007 9 ай бұрын

Impressive interview except I don't remember hearing questions asking Dr. Harris about potential conflicts of interest that should be disclosed to the listener. In this regard, it appears that Dr. Harris has a website/business selling various tests including Omega-3 Tests, Vitamin D Tests and Supplements. (I'd also like to know who funded Dr. Harris' scientific research that formed the basis of the opinions expressed in this interview.) Since the science of the health effects of Omega 3 supplementation is both complicated and contested by people far more knowledgeable on these issues than I am, this is a red flag for me.

@hidaven 2 ай бұрын

Go look at the results of the STRENGTH trial which refutes any health benefit of taking these omega 3 supplements. The trial was prematurely ended and the company actually stopped making the product! Lol

@JessZ178 2 жыл бұрын

Great episode! Thank you 🙏🏽 Would love to hear your thoughts on whether you felt DHA/EPA as essential supplements for vegans (like B12). I got the feeling from the episode the ALA may have its own benefits but conversion rate is very low. Perhaps that can be explored further in Part 2. I’ve also heard that it’s not actually the amount of omega 3 but the omega 3 omega 6 ratio. Is there any truth to this?

@TenTempeh 2 жыл бұрын

The conclusion, at less what I understood around those points, is that the conversion ratio is really low and that's why, even tho it isn't considered an essential fatty acid, omega 3 EPA and DHA are really recommended for a healthier dietary pattern. That leads clearly to the recommendation of its supplementation in vegan diets. Also the ratio O6/O3 can reduce that conversion (from ALA to EPA/DHA), but as you don't want to get less O6, considering it is healthy (except in some inflammatory diseases), you aren't really interested in balancing that ratio. The overall picture would probably be: get lots of LA (O6) and get your correct doses of EPA and DHA, indepently of how much ALA you are getting from your diet (even tho if it is recommended to obtain in high doses).

@mrddcass6540 Жыл бұрын

Excellent content.

@meb3369 9 ай бұрын

This is super helpful

@mummijons 9 ай бұрын

This is a fun chat. Both of them seem to have realized that plants are not human food, yet they are not ready to let go of the old plant mantras and try everything to find ways to justify the continued unnecessary and unhealthy eating of plants.

@maricamaas2326 9 ай бұрын

Cognitive dissonance being stressful to deal with, and willful blindness being worse than ignorance... 😅

@maricamaas2326 9 ай бұрын

What is worth considering: Where on the savannah would an essential 8 supplement be found? 🧐

@luckssj 9 ай бұрын

It's the Oxide LDL that find a hole in the Glycocalyx Structure and Endothelial cells are damaged and this allows the oxidative LDL to form plaque

@zhilahaghbin4766 9 ай бұрын

Thanks you both, very useful information. My questions for Dr. Harris : in the studies that subjects took Omega 3 and developed AF, were there differences found with subjects who didn't develop A.Fib? secondly since really "there is no higher limits to Omega 3 index, more better", so this is somewhat in conflict with A.Fib findings, should one assume if they are taking high doses of both EPA and DHA and not having arrythmia issues, they better keep taking these and stop or reduce only if A. Fib develops? There is a Canadian supplement that has for 2 capsule has 1400 mg EPA and 480 mg DHA, also has 2200 mg fish oil. Is there added benefit to having this last element "fish oil", why would they add that? Brand is "vivanaturales triple strength Omega 3 fish oil" and reason got my attention as video on youtube from a pharmacist who said took 5 grams of this supplement per day, fixed his LDL, and other lipid markers over a year. Dr. Harris said Omega 3 and fish oil lowers TG, whereas one cardiologist M. Alo on youtube said Fish oil raises both cholesterol and LDL and cause a. Fib, comments please.

@Magar6 7 ай бұрын

Great video, thanks! 👍

@cherylatkins7600 Жыл бұрын

Love this channel. I learn so much here. Thank you.

@fastingfrugivore 7 ай бұрын

Terrific conversation this .. 👍 Tq..On On

@smilebot484 2 жыл бұрын

what i'm curious about is whether supplementing dha/epa fats inhibits natural conversion.

@musclemedicine_M.D Жыл бұрын

Excellent.

@lilibethllanera1616 10 ай бұрын

which is better source for fish oil supplement? alaskan pollock or anchovy or mackarel?

@c.d.c.s. 2 жыл бұрын

1. What about DPA? 2. What about supplements that contain ALA, DHA & EPA? Is there a recommended ratio for this combo? Or the broad spectrum supplements that contain Omega 3/6/7/9 plus ALA, DHA, EPA, which unfortunately most on the market contain Carrageenan. 3. What about the back and forth regarding Fish Oil’s ability/potential to worsen LDL? 4. What about pentadecanoic acid aka fatty 15?

@mohammedhabib6425 9 ай бұрын

Great . thank you .

@joannsmith9 9 ай бұрын

You remind me of someone too-Simon Hill EXCELLENT SHOW!

@geoffpalmer6717 2 жыл бұрын

@103: Blood measurements of EPA/DHA only show how much is being carried by the blood - at that specific time. Most measurements are post prandial, so of course if you are eating preformed EPA/DHA, more will be found in the bloodstream. Research shows that most ALA conversion is happening in tissues, not in the bloodstream. >ALA Storage - The primary fate of orally administered ALA is b-oxidation and long-term storage in adipose tissue (up to one year), suggesting that DHA synthesis measures involving oral ALA tracer ingestion may underestimate total DHA synthesis. >ALA Only - Studies Animals fed ALA-only diets have brain DHA concentrations similar to DHA-fed animals. And dietary ALA, with no DHA, is sufficient to completely restore brain DHA in rats [19] and non-human primates >DHA Requirements - brain DHA requirement is estimated to be only 2.4-3.8 mg/day in humans. >Most research refers to ALA conversion: 1) in the bloodstream not the tissues 2) at the time of ingestion, instead of on an “as need” basis with serum clearance rapidly changing blood levels Study: Is docosahexaenoic acid synthesis from a-linolenic acid sufficient to supply the adult brain? Abstract Link: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25920364/ Full Study: www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0163782715000223?via%3Dihub Anthony F. Domenichiello, Alex P. Kitson, Richard P. Bazinet

@geoffpalmer6717 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheProofWithSimonHill RBC carry n3 to and from tissues. This does not account for metabolization of n3 in the tissues themselves such as liver, brain, muscle or adipose tissue. Nor stored amounts. From study: "Adipose…has been estimated to contain 20-50 g of DHA in an adult…” at 2.4- 3.8mg/day for the brain, that is about 20 years’ worth of stored DHA. This would make sense to store DHA in the brain to supply a homeostatic amount required by the brain during times of food scarcity to ensure brain function. The high amounts found in the brain then may be predominantly stored back up supply. The study below included Adipose Tissue (not just blood)as well as urine to assess the amount transported (plasma), stored (Adipose tissue) and metabolized (urine). Study: Vegans had higher total Omega 3 levels Plasma, urine, and adipose tissue biomarkers of dietary intake differ between vegetarian and non-vegetarian diet groups in the Adventist Health Study-2. J Nutr. Published online February 15, 2019. “Vegans had a higher proportion of total Omega-3 fatty acids (2.1% compared with 1.6%) (P < 0.0001) compared with non-vegetarians.” academic.oup.com/jn/article/149/4/667/5320848?guestAccessKey=e5c18e47-598e-420e-9853-d74da51189dd

@peggyharris3815 9 ай бұрын

Simon asks all the right questions.

@user-ms5yl2gb5o 9 ай бұрын

I had to chuckle at the "Who is the Bee Gees?" :) But great conversation. Thank you.

@cassandrabennett9446 2 жыл бұрын

Another excellent deep dive Simon! I am wondering if this changes your advice about Omega-3 supplementation from your book? You obviously support Omega-3 supplementation from algae oil for added benefits but advise that adequate ALA can be derived in a WFPBD from flax, chia and hemp seeds as well as walnuts. It seems as though Bill would advise on a EPA & DHA supplement as well for vegans for the potential longevity effects 🤔

@cassandrabennett9446 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Simon. I will be adding omega 3 to my annual blood test list as well. Excellent actionable information 👍

@louisesinclair2425 2 жыл бұрын

OMG Simon….. Who is Barry Gibb You can go off people you know 🤣 Jokes aside keep up the good work It’s definitely appreciated 🥰🥰

@imhassane 11 ай бұрын

Currently eating 20g of ALA daily (20g of chia + 20g of flax seed in my protein shake) + taking an algae supplement. Never knew what omega 3s were before going vegan.

@talgara69 10 ай бұрын

Excellent

@hamakua484 4 ай бұрын

Great interview. Thanks. It may be the phytonutrients, something else, or combinations in extra virgin olive oils that are health promoting. Reductionism does not always focus on the correct mechanism. If the study is EVOO, then use EVOO.

@travv88 10 ай бұрын

I'm doing 2g of EPA 2x a day. Sometimes more. This is based on the amount of EPA in fish oil concentrate capsules I have, so this also has DHA.

@paulpisinski8356 9 ай бұрын

What about Omega 3. DPA? I did not hear any mention of DPA.

@kencarey3477 10 ай бұрын

I've heard this gentleman before, interviewed by Rhonda Kirkpatrick. He is very interesting to listen to

@esfanintan Жыл бұрын

I for certain know that taking fish oil, Lozava, my triglycerides went down significantly.

@pwcrabb5766 8 ай бұрын

Astounding advocacy of Omega 6, linoleic acid, and arachidonic acid. Opposite of most recent advocates.

@lindaripp5902 8 ай бұрын

Thanks

@TheIgnacio777 11 ай бұрын

Excellent! If we'd benefit from a supplement, doesnt thatmean we'd best eat (a lot) more fish instead? And if so, ho do u reconcile w ur interview w the nutrition expert that recommended occasional fish?

@travv88 10 ай бұрын

Fish from the ocean are likely contaminated. I think purified fish oil concentrate or another supplemental form of EPA/DHA is the best way. What else from fish is really necessary other than the omega 3s? Protein? Collagen? These can be obtained elsewhere.

@maricamaas2326 9 ай бұрын

@@travv88 Fish also contain important trace minerals.

@travv88 9 ай бұрын

Iodine. Anything else? I get that in my multivitamin. @@maricamaas2326

@bettyle88 4 ай бұрын

How about eat Cod liver oil instead of Fish oil? How do I chose what type or what form of Cod liver oil should I chose for better absorption? Any issue to eat Cod liver oil daily? Or any advantage or disadvantage eat Cod liver oil daily? Or should I eat Cod liver Oil for a month, then switch to Fish oil for another month, and keep that pattern any pros cons?

@TenTempeh 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Simon! Great episode. Good to have such an honest scope on this matter. I am not sure I got one point tho: should we consider Arachidonic Acid 'not essential but yet important for optimal health', just as we do with EPA and DHA? I was wondering if it would be interesting to get Arachidonic Acid suplementation as a vegan. I will rewatch the Omega 6 part to make sure that question isn't already answered :)

@TenTempeh 2 жыл бұрын

Considering the fact that there's no relationship between how much LA we consume and how much AA we make (pointed at 43:00)... What should we conclude?

@TenTempeh 2 жыл бұрын

42:15 I understand more or less Arachidonic Acid doesn't lead to disease, therefore we have no reason to supplement it, and it goes without saying, no need to eat animal products for their content in AA... Damn what a relief But how could that make sense? Wasn't AA necessary for many of our physiological functions as pointed at 35:40?

@TenTempeh 2 жыл бұрын

I guess I'm not the only one that is intrigued by that blank. 36:30 I will gladly think that, more than AA, it is O6 overall (LA concretely) that is important for those functions, specially considering we already stablished that AA levels didn't determine neither health nor disease

@TenTempeh 2 жыл бұрын

I found those grasps of information a bit confusing. How could our organisms regulate our AA if it is potentially essential? If it does regulate, do we manage to make enough AA in order to not need any dietary/supplemented AA?

@williammaurer9450 3 ай бұрын

Excellent, TY

@theandersonsisters8190 2 жыл бұрын

Ok, I'm here and I'm ready 😅

@makeadifference4all 10 ай бұрын

I refuse to put all my eggs in one basket, given how much we still don't know about nutrition. Although I cook a lot with olive and avocado oil, I also use virgin, cold-pressed sunflower oil at least once a week, which is a good source of onega-6 oil.

@maricamaas2326 9 ай бұрын

Cold-pressed sunflower oil? Thank you for mentioning; was not aware... Must be pricey?

@RoadMechanic Жыл бұрын

he does look like barry gibbs

@valentin1808 6 ай бұрын

I tried omega 3 capsules as I heard that some said it improves depression.i tried it and was very surprised that my major depression improved slightly. I now find that it is the EPA that seems to work and I now take 4 grams a day which is also the dose that the UK NHS says is helpful in certain heart conditions.(my shoulder joint pains also went !!)

@thealiceftw 2 жыл бұрын

What I don’t understand though is the omega 3 vs omega 6 ratio. All the functional drs I’ve met always talked about the ratio and how high my omega 3 ratio was too low - but didn’t consider my omega 3 intake at all. It was all about the ratio, not the actual omega 3 consumption. Did I miss it or did Bill say anything about the actual importance of the ratio?

@k.h.6991 Жыл бұрын

It's implied here that the ratio is not meaningful. You simply need both, is what is pretty clear from this episode.

@jellybeanvinkler4878 Жыл бұрын

I wish Simon had pressed him on this. I have heard his other interviews where he minimizes the fact that we, as humans (and our pets) are eating more O-6 than ever, and in ways that were not evolutionary, nor ancestral. Our 3/6 ratio is vastly different today than it has been in the past. You might think he has some vested interest in the food industries that produce these unnatural substances. Just the way seed oils are produced and cleaned up makes me cringe at the thought of consuming them. Is there such a thing as cold pressed soy or corn oil? I will have to check on that.🤔

@maricamaas2326 9 ай бұрын

@@jellybeanvinkler4878Was surprised to learn from someone in this comment section that there is cold pressed sunflower oil.

@EACHONETEACHONE09 Жыл бұрын

Does anyone know if taking cod liver oil in megadosing can trigger detoxification of the liver and cause kidneys to filter? I’ve noticed changes in my health that raised my concerns.

@rredding 10 ай бұрын

Be careful with too much.. One 100-120 g can per week should do, not more..

@mirellamatotek4294 2 ай бұрын

It is high in Vitamin A so you should take care and not overdo it.

@cherylatkins7600 Жыл бұрын

I realize this episode is a year old. I wonder about rancidity of omega 3 supplements. I take algal oil gel caps and they often smell “off”. How can we tell if they are rancid or not? He said once the oil is encapsulated it doesn’t degrade (paraphrasing here). I’m curious if any of you have the same question. Thanks.

@rredding 10 ай бұрын

If you can get cans of cod liver in its own oil, you may find it is not rancid at all, and probably cheaper than the capsules. One 100 g can per week.

@travv88 10 ай бұрын

@@rredding That isn't cheaper than capsules when you do by weight comparison of cod liver to conentrated fish oil capsules. The other concern when using cod liver and cod liver oil as a substitute for fish oil is the high vitamin A content. This is fine if you want to take a bit for vitamin A but it can lead to hypervitaminosis A.

@rredding 9 ай бұрын

@@travv88 Good points! This is what I learned when doing my own "research": Recommended daily allowance for adult men: 900 micrograms per day. Upper allowed intake: 3000 micrograms per day. The cod liver that I buy is a can of 120 gram, and the liver is in its own oil. A good (English-language) cod liver analysis can be found on the website "ciqual" and states: vitamin A (retinol) 4000 micrograms/100 g. (As you can see for yourself, cod liver has quite a long list of useful vitamins and minerals). So, one can contains 4800 micrograms vitamin A. I divide one can in 3 portions, two of them are frozen immediately and I take those amounts over the week. The oil does not taste "fishy" and the liver actually tastes pretty good. I am not too worried about contamination and this approach is cheaper than buying fish oil pills..

@markumark1 9 ай бұрын

I also use the algae oil and one bottle takes about 2 months to use and i haven't noticed an off smell or taste. Another brand of algae oil I've used would have a fishy taste that alarmed me at first when I wasn't aware that algae naturally tastes and smells that way. But I've never noticed any smell or taste with the Nordic naturals EPA DHA.

@lynnritchie231 8 ай бұрын

Maybe keep them in the fridge.

@joemalotcnj1987 Ай бұрын

I wonder if eating higher saturated fats which would be more natural reduces the need for liver receptors as they are not seen as harmful and that switching to seed oils increases receptors as a sort of immune response to try to clear that toxic oil out of the system. Raising or lowering receptors being a reaction like raising or lowering white blood cells.

@JasonFuhrman Жыл бұрын

I don't understand one thing he said. In the beginning he says epidemiology isn't accurate then he says epidemiological studies have shown high linoleic consumption is good. So therefore, high linoleic acid is good? Am I missing something?

@rredding 10 ай бұрын

Expecting an answer?

@darrylhopcutt2166 10 ай бұрын

@@rreddinghe won’t answer this

@lisadoerrer7381 2 жыл бұрын

Hey, maybe I missed it, but I was wondering if flaxseeds, like two tea spoons a day, can be a good omega 3 source for a vegan. Or can I only get the right amount with supplements?

@kennethyuman1940 Жыл бұрын

He said populations that live inland and never eat fish can also have good health through plant-sourced omega-3s. I found that one tablespoon of ground flax contains 2 g omega-3s. Walnut and pecan are good sources too.

@jellybeanvinkler4878 Жыл бұрын

@Kenneth Yuman I really don't know any populations that don't ever eat fish. Can you name some?

@chuckleezodiac24 10 ай бұрын

@@jellybeanvinkler4878 Tibetans don't eat fish. (They did in Neolithic times). Mongolians rarely eat fish. Afghanistan, Ethiopia and Tajikistan only have a fish consumption of less than 1 kilogram per year (per capita). that's good for me. i eat a lot of fish.

@jellybeanvinkler4878 10 ай бұрын

@@chuckleezodiac24I wonder where this is?! I am not sure of the videos history, but I picked it up, originally, off a Mongolian friends page. Could be Iceland, I suppose, where they do eat a lot of fish. But, I assume, if a culture of any sort, anywhere on earth, were starving, they might go to the lake and try for a meal. Even through the ice! kzfaq.info0K4KeExDfRo?feature=share

@chuckleezodiac24 10 ай бұрын

@@jellybeanvinkler4878 great! now horses are eating fish. probably Iceland, where horses are sometimes fed salted fish. there's one village in Tibet (Junba) where fish is eaten (because there's little else). other Tibetans give them the stink eye. people gotta eat. i'm going to promote Veganism. i want all the fishes in the deep blue sea!

@luzi29 8 ай бұрын

Conclusion 🤔 less carbs, less fat, less oils, less smoking, less alcohol, less smog, less stress but more good vibes, more movement, more physical challenges will keep you healthy. I think the mystery is solved. We are just excusing bad behaviour by jumping from one extreme to the next… it is actually sad. For people with issues (auto immune etc.) it is definitely a different story though 😢

@vasisimari92058 Ай бұрын

You're wrong. There are refined carbs (to be avoided) and unrefined carbs (good for you). Also there're monounsaturated fats (healthy fats) and saturated fats (unhealthy fats mostly found in animal sources). Also this video is not giving into anti-seed oil nonsense online.

@jamesgordon8867 10 ай бұрын

Improved metabolic health

@hidaven 2 ай бұрын

Has Bill commented on the negative outcome of the STRENGTH trial that had basically zero omega 3 benefits, they actually stopped the trial and discontinued making the omega 3 pill!

@maricamaas2326 9 ай бұрын

Obesity seems to be a risk factor, since 80% of those who are obese, are considered metabolically unhealthy; with the remaining 20% referred to as the 'metabolically healthy obese' (MHO). However, 60% of those with normal weight, are also considered metabolically unhealthy; pointing to the fact that obesity as such is not the main rootcause of metabolic dysfunction.

@captainadams7569 8 ай бұрын

How is the rate of heart disease dropping; if heart disease is the # killer In the world?

@rredding 10 ай бұрын

Thanks, this was a fantastic, Interesting session. I will listen again, but i have the following question.. My values are 4.8% and ratio 11:1' I'd like to have cod liver in its own oil.. It also has vitamin A, which i don't want to overdo. Also too much omega 3 has its own issues. What would be my weekly max intake to avoid problems?

@rredding 9 ай бұрын

I have been doing some research.. Recommended daily allowance for adult men: 900 micrograms per day. Upper allowed intake: 3000 micrograms per day. The cod liver that I buy is a can of 120 gram, and the liver is in its own oil. A good (English-language) cod liver analysis can be found on the website "ciqual" and states: vitamin A (retinol) 4000 micrograms/100 g. So, one can contains 4800 micrograms vitamin A. I divide one can in 3 portions, two of them are frozen immediately and I take those amounts over the week. The oil does not taste "fishy" and the liver actually tastes pretty good. I am not too worried about contamination and this approach is cheaper than buying fish oil pills..

@janiceneagle1088 Жыл бұрын

I think I like this channel

@luckssj 3 ай бұрын

I had my Omega 3 Krill oil, is 8.6 and going up.

@maricamaas2326 9 ай бұрын

Not good&bad cholesterol, but appropriate cholesterol - made and controlled by the intelligent body - according to what is needed; with increased all-cause mortality linked to low cholesterol levels; also according to recent (independant) research. There must be a reason why some LDL's (such as those formed from polyunsaturated, processed and oxidised fats), are favoured to be removed from the bloodstream... Could it be that they are considered to be harmful, or otherwise at least not as useful?

@adriano72 2 жыл бұрын

Loved this episode -- really interesting deep dive. Something I don't think was covered is omega 3 supplementation for vegans through DHA and EPA extracted directly from algae (which is where fishes are getting their omega 3 from as well).

@JustJulia-qt9nh 9 ай бұрын

Ahhh this was replayed by Plant Based News…I was like a) why does this episode feel so familiar, I know I’ve already seen this!” And b) there were adds right after Chris said he doesn’t run adds in the middle. I’m sure permission was granted to help spread the news but I think maybe you should also consider unchecking adds that interrupt when replaying his videos as some people might not realize it’s being replayed on a different channel.

@JustJulia-qt9nh 9 ай бұрын

@@TheProofWithSimonHillso sorry, I was watching a Chris Macaskill, Plant Chompers, replay on the Plant Based News channel, which is where this was supposed to be posted. I have no idea how it wound up on your video, so sorry about that! I’ll remove it.

@JustJulia-qt9nh 9 ай бұрын

BTW…really LOVE your content!

@jakobw135 Жыл бұрын

Is it true that the ratio of omega-6 to omega-3 should ideally be about 2 to 1? And if so, does the evidence show that most people have a ratio closer to double or triple that? Is that what the debate is about?

@jeffreyjohnson7359 Жыл бұрын

I think there's no evidence for that.

@jakobw135 Жыл бұрын

@@jeffreyjohnson7359 I got my above comment from bonafide science sources.

@jeffreyjohnson7359 Жыл бұрын

@@jakobw135 I've read it a hundred times, and I used to believe it. It was based on the belief that omega 6's are inflammatory. There have been multiple trials to test that hypothesis, and every one has failed to show any increase in inflammation. The theory is just wrong.

@jakobw135 Жыл бұрын

@@jeffreyjohnson7359I don't know about Omega-6's being pro-inflammatory, but they counter the deleterious effects of saturated fats. In any case, you need about twice the omega-6"s to the Omega 3's for optimum health. Are you a doctor or PhD or are you just expressing your opinion?

@jeffreyjohnson7359 Жыл бұрын

@@jakobw135 No, lol, I'm just a lowly lawyer with a non-science master's degree. But Dr. Gil Carvalho, an MD and PhD, has an excellent channel Nutrition Made Simple. A lot of my opinions come from his excellent videos on vegetable and seed oils. I've never seen any scientific evidence on 6/3 ratios, but I would like to, if it's there.

@250txc Жыл бұрын

Get over cholesterol!

@darrylhopcutt2166 10 ай бұрын

@@TheProofWithSimonHillyou mean casual causality 😉

@maricamaas2326 9 ай бұрын

@@TheProofWithSimonHillOr cholesterol is specifically produced for the purpose of moving in, in an effort to promote healing where there is inflammation?

@jeffreyjohnson7359 Жыл бұрын

He's absolutely right about Barry Gibb! Who's Barry Gibb!?!?!?

@d2row96 9 ай бұрын

Does anyone wonder why we’re still using a study that was done in the 60s With far less technology to control our eating patterns?

@lynnritchie231 8 ай бұрын

Probanly because there isn't any evidence to disprove it.......

@davidvarkey1 2 жыл бұрын

What benefits are there from eating fish that can't be achieved through supplementation? Curious why there's so many recommendations for fish consumption when there are definite issues with fish consumption.

@user-lg2lt3io8s 9 ай бұрын

You don't address processing and solvents in seed oils

@yangtse55 6 ай бұрын

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@thomaslawson4253 7 ай бұрын

after a lifetime of eating cold water fish i have found that once or twice a week is best beyond that i tend to feel depressed. omega 6 should easily be obtained in a healthy diet. if it comes in a pill its no good! good health is all about low carbs ,no sugar,ample protein and most of all daily exercise.

@jondel3304 10 ай бұрын

I started taking high-dose fish oil from Nordic Naturals, and I swear my low-grade chronic back pain went away. Anecdotal, I know, but my back pain is gone?? Wtf? Can this be possible?

@travv88 10 ай бұрын

What type of dose? I started taking high dose of concentrated fish oil to the equivalent of 3000-6000mg of EPA per day and this pain in my chest has reduced significantly and a number of other health markers have improved. And yes I've been to doctors about it and they've not been able to help. I think I might have been deficient in omega 3 and it was causing lots of inflammation???

@jondel3304 10 ай бұрын

@@travv88, I can definitely believe your story, based on mine. I started taking 2150 mg per-day, and my general aches and pains have almost disappeared compared to what the used to be. I'm amazed!

@jondel3304 10 ай бұрын

@@travv88 yup, I'm guessing the same thing...for us, high-dose omega-3 is a major anti-inflammatory.

@travv88 10 ай бұрын

@@jondel3304 Nice. I'm excited for the future to take high doses of omega 3 and to see how healthy I can get from it.

@notrueflagshere198 21 күн бұрын

Wow! I'm old. I know who Andy Gibb was. Or did he say, "Barry?"

@bettyle88 4 ай бұрын

1/5 women has hypothyroidism, appreciated if we can have a hypothyroidism diet topic.

@kevinbrannan8347 9 ай бұрын

Critical thinking the body is not stupid , Maybe with poly unsaturated fats more receptors are ended to remove the unhealthy fat When saturated fat is present less receptors required if in deed what you said happens

@TexasHawk_1ks 7 ай бұрын

We know that you when -the low fat call- came about. The fat wasnt lowered. Nobody eats pure sugar without fat. You dont see pure sugar donuts without fat it. Or ice cream without etc..fat is in everything

@sabby123456789 2 жыл бұрын

Didn't they use to feed transplant patients safflower or sunflower seed oil to suppress their immune systems before immunosuppressive medications were developed? Could omega-6s cause cancer by suppressing the immune system. I realize that when I eat walnuts regularly for a few days, I start to have a feeling of developing a sore throat.

@maricamaas2326 9 ай бұрын

Thank you for pointing this out in principle: That such oils are in essence functioning in similar way than cholesterol lowering drugs prescribed before organ transplants... Lowered immunity - leading to increased all-cause mortality - as result of lowered cholesterol levels 🧐 Love the taste of nuts, but considering their price, and the possibility that they contain anti-nutrients; only consuming them on special occasions as special treat; for example when baking carrot cake.

@maricamaas2326 9 ай бұрын

@@panes840 Beans, peas, nuts, soy, etc. etc. So many plant foods contain anti-nutrients...

@jamesgordon8867 10 ай бұрын

There's more to fiber than you mentioned

@inthevortex-de1rh 9 ай бұрын

I would never ever cook with GMO highly processed canola, corn, soy, or any other poison oils. All the highly processed foods have a bunch of all those terrible cheap oils!

@yangtse55 6 ай бұрын

Cool story bro

@hannahrl Жыл бұрын

Simon, you may have already covered this on a show, but I feel like in a lot of recent interviews and podcasts I've seen centered around or touching on fatty acids, no one talks about dark leafy greens. When plant foods come up, the typical spread of seeds and algal supplementation are mentioned, and fishes are referenced of course repeatedly, whether with caveats or in enthusiastic support of. Sideline - in his comment about human evolution and water bodies, not all fish flesh contains this, by a stretch, and many water sources would not necessarily be rich in various fishes, so I think that falls down on several fronts. Anyway, back to greens, I have only really heard this discussed directly here and there by Chef AJ with a couple of guests, and I feel like it would bear closer scrutiny. Her N of 1, when it comes up, is that she basically doesn't even eat seeds much at all, and definitely no extracted oil. but eats pounds of greens in a day, doesnt supplement DHA/EPA and regulatly tests her levels to check, and they're always strong. Given that high-foliage forage plus cooked starches and seeds/grains probably IS a foundational evolutionary human dietary pattern, it would make sense to me that maybe greens in quantity are really worth a look, maybe especially effective in absence or reduced presence of other sources competing for the same conversion pathway (and, I am NOT an anthropologist, but I WAS an anthropology undergrad in the early 90s and I did some grad-level medical anthropology work focused a lot on diet as well, so I'm not 100% arm-chairing it here...). Anyway, sorry if I missed any discussion on greens, but if not, maybe this would be a good topic or subtopic/item for Part 2 of this when you do it, even?

@hannahrl Жыл бұрын

Oh, RIGHT at the end, there's a mention of ALA...

@jamesgordon8867 10 ай бұрын

Mitochondrial health improved